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Title: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 10, 2025, 10:26:50 PM
“I’m 62 years old. 5’6 210 lbs and 12-15% body fat. My concern is am I carrying too much muscle mass for my age and how it may affect my heart?”

Grok3 response…

Got it—retired bodybuilder adds some context. That explains the muscle mass and likely a history of disciplined training and nutrition. I’ll tweak the response with that in mind, focusing on how your background might influence your heart health at 62, 5’6”, 210 lbs, and 12-15% body fat. Here’s the updated take:

Your Profile
   •   Lean body mass (LBM): 178.5–184.8 lbs (calculated earlier). For a 5’6” frame, this is elite-level muscle, even for a retired bodybuilder. You’ve clearly held onto gains post-retirement, which is rare and impressive.

   •   Bodybuilding history: Years of heavy lifting, probably high-volume diets, and maybe supplements (protein, creatine, or even past steroid use—common in the sport, though I won’t assume). This shapes your heart’s adaptation.

Is Your Muscle Mass Too Much?
As a retired bodybuilder, 210 lbs with 12-15% fat isn’t “too much” in the context of your past—it’s a legacy of your career. Most guys your age (average LBM might be 120-140 lbs) couldn’t dream of this, but you’re not most guys. The heart question is less about the muscle itself and more about how your cardiovascular system has weathered the journey:

   1   Heart Adaptation: Decades of lifting likely gave you a thicker, stronger heart muscle (left ventricular hypertrophy, common in strength athletes). A 2020 review in Circulation notes this can be physiologic (healthy) in athletes, but at 62, it might edge toward pathologic if paired with high BP or arterial stiffness—aging plus past stress could amplify this.

   2   Past Strain: Bodybuilding’s intensity (heavy squats, deadlifts, etc.) spikes blood pressure during lifts. If you pushed limits for years, your arteries might be less elastic now, raising cardiac workload. Any steroid history (even legal ones back in the day) could’ve nudged cholesterol or heart strain higher—studies like those in Steroids (2018) link anabolic use to cardiac risks long-term.

   3   Current Load: Maintaining 180+ lbs of LBM still demands a lot—your heart’s pumping for a big engine. Resting metabolic rate could be 2,000-2,500 kcal/day before activity, per estimates from Journal of Applied Physiology. That’s sustainable if your heart’s healthy, but it’s work.

Risks vs. Benefits, Bodybuilder Edition
   •   Risks:
   ◦   If you’ve got undiagnosed coronary artery disease (more common at 62), the heart’s oxygen demand might outstrip supply during stress. Retired or not, bodybuilders sometimes face this—look at pros who’ve had heart issues post-career.
   ◦   Joints might creak under 210 lbs, though your strength likely offsets wear so far.
   •   Benefits:
   ◦   Muscle mass is a superpower at 62—countering sarcopenia, boosting insulin sensitivity (key for heart health), and keeping you mobile. A 2021 Journal of Aging Research study ties higher muscle to lower mortality in older adults.
   ◦   Your heart’s probably conditioned from years of training, assuming you mixed in some cardio (did you?).

Tailored Thoughts
You’re not over-muscled for your norm—210 lbs is a bodybuilder’s badge, not a random excess. But at 62, the heart’s resilience matters more than the mass:

   •   Training Now: Are you still lifting heavy, or have you scaled back? Heavy loads could stress an aging heart more than the muscle itself. Lighter weights, higher reps might suit you now.
   •   Cardio History: Bodybuilders sometimes skimp on cardio for mass gains. If that’s you, your heart might lag behind your muscles endurance-wise. A 30-min walk or bike ride 3-4x/week could balance things.
   •   Health Clues: Ever had high BP, cholesterol issues, or fatigue? Any murmurs or palpitations? Your bodybuilding past makes these worth checking.
Next Steps
   •   Check the Engine: A cardiologist visit is gold here—EKG, stress test, maybe an echocardiogram. Your heart’s likely enlarged from lifting (normal for you), but they can rule out trouble. Retired pros often find peace of mind this way.
   •   Dial It If Needed: Dropping to 195-200 lbs (10-15 lbs less) could lighten the load without losing your edge. Slow cut, keep protein high (e.g., carnivore diet style if you’re into that).
   •   Move Smart: Add low-impact cardio if it’s not there—keeps the heart limber without shredding muscle.

You’re a unicorn at 62—most retired bodybuilders fade, but you’re still stacked. The muscle’s not the enemy; it’s your heart’s mileage that counts. What was your peak weight back in the day, and how’s your energy now? That’d fine-tune this more.




Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 10, 2025, 11:07:55 PM
Absolutely amazing what AI can put together, was damn good...
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 11, 2025, 12:11:26 AM
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 04:43:33 AM
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 04:51:13 AM
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.

Will AI do the workout for you?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BayGBM on March 11, 2025, 05:14:19 AM
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

x2
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: mphgrove on March 11, 2025, 05:19:29 AM
That Chatbox is a suck up schmoe.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: deadz on March 11, 2025, 07:14:19 AM
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.
AI will takeover and A lot of people will become unemployed.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 07:22:28 AM
AI will takeover and A lot of people will become unemployed.

Then they can become lawyers like Bhanky.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: kreator on March 11, 2025, 07:53:55 AM
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

Exactly. The more your system has to support the sooner it gives out
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: B_B_C on March 11, 2025, 08:11:53 AM
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.

how do we know that Coach is not already  an AI poster ?


Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Grape Ape on March 11, 2025, 08:13:42 AM
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

Eh, context matters here.  So many variables can effect.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Phantom Spunker on March 11, 2025, 08:19:22 AM
how do we know that Coach is not already  an AI poster ?

The clue is in the second letter of the initialism.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 11, 2025, 08:22:07 AM
Coach, just curious, how much time off hormones have you had during your life? I calculate you started 47 years ago! Have you been lifting all this time or have you taken any extended breaks?

Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Rambone on March 11, 2025, 08:23:41 AM
We’re bodybuilders. Vanity will kill us all!
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: B_B_C on March 11, 2025, 08:38:14 AM
The clue is in the second letter of the initialism.


AI = artificial idiot
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 08:44:19 AM
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

150mg wk of test is hardly “juicing”.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 08:45:58 AM
Coach, just curious, how much time off hormones have you had during your life? I calculate you started 47 years ago! Have you been lifting all this time or have you taken any extended breaks?

Never taken any extended breaks. Started training at 12. There was a point where I didn’t take any gear for years. I’ve had breaks of a year or more.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 11, 2025, 09:19:54 AM
Never taken any extended breaks. Started training at 12. There was a point where I didn’t take any gear for years. I’ve had breaks of a year or more.

Ok thanks 8)
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 09:24:17 AM
Ok thanks 8)

I just remembered I took about a 4-5 year break when my son was born
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 11, 2025, 09:56:17 AM
Bulk to 250 and sign up for Law School, all the cool kids are doing it.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 11, 2025, 09:57:53 AM
Will AI do the workout for you?
I'm hoping so along with my VR goggles.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 11, 2025, 10:12:09 AM
150mg wk of test is hardly “juicing”.

It’s hardly “natural”, either.

210 at 5’6” at 62 is a BMI of 34.  You’ve suffered a stroke too, no?  You’re playing with fire by maintaining your size but hey it’s your health.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 10:21:58 AM
It’s hardly “natural”, either.

210 at 5’6” at 62 is a BMI of 34.  You’ve suffered a stroke too, no?  You’re playing with fire by maintaining your size but hey it’s your health.

If you’re not taking TRT by my age then that’s on you. It’s about as “natural” as you get without making the mistake of taking NOTHING. It’s HIGHLY recommended. I had a TIA almost 8 years ago. I was back to normal the next day and haven’t had a problem since.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 10:23:50 AM
It’s hardly “natural”, either.

210 at 5’6” at 62 is a BMI of 34.  You’ve suffered a stroke too, no?  You’re playing with fire by maintaining your size but hey it’s your health.

I’m not maintaining size. I’ve actually dropped 35-40lbs since I stopped competing.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Lartinos on March 11, 2025, 10:52:32 AM
Getting down to 180 seems like a good goal.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: MorganSA on March 11, 2025, 11:14:51 AM
I hope to hell I make it to 62 and have the "problem" of carrying 210 pounds mostly muscle  ;D - I would be devastated and no doubt my chicky too  ;D ;D.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BigRo on March 11, 2025, 11:24:03 AM
Small guys die too, can't imagine being so afraid of being muscular.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 11:29:41 AM
Small guys die too, can't imagine being so afraid of being muscular.

Not a matter of being muscular. It’s carrying the weight at 62.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BigRo on March 11, 2025, 11:49:52 AM
I guess 210 at 5,6 might be a bit much at that age.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: joswift on March 11, 2025, 12:06:26 PM
Im 5'10 and around 220/225

Looking to get down to 200, probably about 15% bf at the moment
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: B_B_C on March 11, 2025, 12:25:35 PM
I’m not maintaining size. I’ve actually dropped 35-40lbs since I stopped competing.

Oh Lardy lardy
yous was bigga?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Zillotch on March 11, 2025, 12:40:06 PM
It’s carrying the weight at 62.

drop to 150.

asap.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: tatoo on March 11, 2025, 12:42:24 PM
Im 5'10 and around 220/225

Looking to get down to 200, probably about 15% bf at the moment

fully belly? lol
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: joswift on March 11, 2025, 12:48:15 PM
fully belly? lol

hahaha,,,Im mostly empty belly, I only eat 4 hours out of 24 at the moment

Just eat one main meal and some oat cereal

Main meal today was Chicken Kiev and chipped fried potatoes

only eating about 75-100ngs protein.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BigRo on March 11, 2025, 01:00:19 PM
drop to 150.

asap.

Cowardly advice.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: French on March 11, 2025, 01:43:29 PM
Steroids accelerate aging and cell multiplication.
Cancer will occur, so enjoy life while you can, because it's either that or a heart attack. Your heart has enlarged, and your veins and arteries have become less flexible, making it harder and harder for blood to circulate until you have a stroke or an embolism.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: MAXX on March 11, 2025, 01:54:10 PM
probably..

what's your general blood pressure and resting heart rate? That could give you some idea
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 02:04:08 PM
drop to 150.

asap.

How many limbs would I have to cut off to make that weight?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 02:09:20 PM
probably..

what's your general blood pressure and resting heart rate? That could give you some idea

Resting 58-61. I normally run a little high, yesterday was 132/73 at midday.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: falco on March 11, 2025, 02:10:15 PM
If one feels good and functional, with good heart rate and breathing, why lose weight?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 02:11:56 PM
Oh Lardy lardy
yous was bigga?

I was around 245-248 here..

Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: B_B_C on March 11, 2025, 02:12:24 PM
How many limbs would I have to cut off to make that weight?

just remove a few of your heavy thinking brain cells
that will reduce the weight or failing that stop you worrying about it

besides at 62 you are in the ante room of eternity
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2025, 02:13:16 PM
If one feels good and functional, with good heart rate and breathing, why lose weight?

Oh, the goal is 195-200 by June
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Bevo on March 11, 2025, 02:24:47 PM
Tito Raymond is 5’7 lean year round 175-180 these days
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 02:26:27 PM
Carrying excess weight is the risk factor.

Doesn't matter if it's fat or muscle.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Zillotch on March 11, 2025, 02:27:01 PM
How many limbs would I have to cut off to make that weight?

drop the drugs.. revert to your natural form if longevity is a concern - your body may heal

u can b here for a good time… or a long time.. as it were.

common sense
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BigRo on March 11, 2025, 02:39:37 PM
If one feels good and functional, with good heart rate and breathing, why lose weight?

good question, to show your gluteus maximus to the judges?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 11, 2025, 02:47:37 PM
I’m off (for good this time). Running and doing body weight type stuff daily. Down about 30 pounds. Honestly haven’t felt this good in years. And all my markers coming in range,
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 02:48:53 PM
Being lighter takes stress off the joints.

It's hell to get old.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BigRo on March 11, 2025, 02:51:37 PM
I’m off (for good this time). Running and doing body weight type stuff daily. Down about 30 pounds. Honestly haven’t felt this good in years. And all my markers coming in range,

How long have you being off?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 11, 2025, 02:52:04 PM
If you’re not taking TRT by my age then that’s on you. It’s about as “natural” as you get without making the mistake of taking NOTHING. It’s HIGHLY recommended. I had a TIA almost 8 years ago. I was back to normal the next day and haven’t had a problem since.

This is not true. TRT is a new thing hyped by those selling it. Somehow men have done fine for centuries without it. You would think men throughout history would've all given up at 30 because their test levels dropped yet here we are.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 11, 2025, 02:53:29 PM
How long have you being off?

1/7/25 was my last pin (125 mg of test as I was scaling back). Hasn’t been easy but can see light at end of tunnel and feeling better everyday.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: illuminati on March 11, 2025, 02:54:22 PM
I'm 64 same height as Coach & weigh around 225-30lbs blood pressure normal
Resting heart rate 56 bodyfat 10-12%. No joint issues, I do a lot of stretching /
Flexibility work - I feel comfortable at this weight.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 11, 2025, 02:58:52 PM
I’m 6’. Down to 192 lbs. Small frame so was always taxed carrying the extra weight.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BigRo on March 11, 2025, 03:02:00 PM
1/7/25 was my last pin (125 mg of test as I was scaling back). Hasn’t been easy but can see light at end of tunnel and feeling better everyday.

Sounds good and how long were you on for?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 11, 2025, 03:12:37 PM
Sounds good and how long were you on for?

Pretty consistently for about a decade.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 03:45:33 PM
I'm 64 same height as Coach & weigh around 225-30lbs blood pressure normal
Resting heart rate 56 bodyfat 10-12%. No joint issues, I do a lot of stretching /
Flexibility work - I feel comfortable at this weight.


You must extremely muscular if you're 10-12% at 5'6" and 225-230.

That would mean your lean body mass is around 200 lbs.

Frank Zane was 5'9" and won the Olympia at 177-180 so his lean body mass was around 174ish if he was 3%.

Franco competed at around 180 at 5'5".
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 04:20:12 PM
A simple way to judge if you are too heavy for your height is to measure the ratio between your waist and your height.

Your waist should not exceed 1/2 your height

This is considered a primary method to determine a healthy weight.

For example if you are 5'6" (66 inches) then your waist measured around your belly button relaxed should not exceed 33 inches.

If your waist exceeds 33" then you need to lose weight.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: joswift on March 11, 2025, 04:25:47 PM
A simple way to judge if you are too heavy for your height is to measure the ratio between your waist and your height.

Your waist should not exceed 1/2 your height

This is considered a primary method to determine a healthy weight.

For example if you are 5'6" (66 inches) then your waist measured around your belly button relaxed should not exceed 33 inches.

If your waist exceeds 33" then you need to lose weight.

what if you just have a fat ass?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 11, 2025, 04:48:20 PM
what if you just have a fat ass?

Weight carried on the hips is not a risk factor like around the belly button.

Must be because of intra-abdominal fat which is bad.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: illuminati on March 11, 2025, 06:06:11 PM
You must extremely muscular if you're 10-12% at 5'6" and 225-230.

That would mean your lean body mass is around 200 lbs.

Frank Zane was 5'9" and won the Olympia at 177-180 so his lean body mass was around 174ish if he was 3%.

Franco competed at around 180 at 5'5".

Always been quite lean - I gained weight / muscle slowly over a the long term.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 11, 2025, 06:59:03 PM
You must extremely muscular if you're 10-12% at 5'6" and 225-230.

That would mean your lean body mass is around 200 lbs.

Frank Zane was 5'9" and won the Olympia at 177-180 so his lean body mass was around 174ish if he was 3%.

Franco competed at around 180 at 5'5".

Everyone is 10-12 body fat … until they get an accurate measurement.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: illuminati on March 11, 2025, 07:03:42 PM
Everyone is 10-12 body fat … until they get an accurate measurement.

I did 😊  👍🏻

11.4%
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
This is not true. TRT is a new thing hyped by those selling it. Somehow men have done fine for centuries without it. You would think men throughout history would've all given up at 30 because their test levels dropped yet here we are.
Yes but most died earlier than today & depending on the time 40 was old.
The average man looked haggered at 30.
Can't compare " centuries ago" with a man of today who lives on average double the age
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2025, 10:58:18 PM
Life expectancy has increased across the world

In 2021, the global average life expectancy was just over 70 years. This is an astonishing fact – because just two hundred years ago, it was less than half. This was the case for all world regions: in 1800, no region had a life expectancy higher than 40 years.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: joswift on March 11, 2025, 11:26:44 PM
Life expectancy has increased across the world

In 2021, the global average life expectancy was just over 70 years. This is an astonishing fact – because just two hundred years ago, it was less than half. This was the case for all world regions: in 1800, no region had a life expectancy higher than 40 years.


Methuselah was 969 when he died.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: US MUSL on March 12, 2025, 12:09:45 AM
Coach, how is your strength at 62?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: MAXX on March 12, 2025, 01:20:21 AM
I’m off (for good this time). Running and doing body weight type stuff daily. Down about 30 pounds. Honestly haven’t felt this good in years. And all my markers coming in range,
Atleast run HCG for a good while to bring your own balls back online. If running gear for years your natural production is probably in girl territory.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: bigmikecox on March 12, 2025, 02:14:04 AM
Absolutely amazing what AI can put together, was damn good...

Agreed
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 12, 2025, 03:38:27 AM
The average man looked haggered at 30.

Perhaps, but virtually everyone has told me I look much younger since coming off. I assume it’s because I’m leaner, skin looks better, and hair, which was finally starting to go, is making a comeback.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 12, 2025, 03:43:09 AM
Atleast run HCG for a good while to bring your own balls back online. If running gear for years your natural production is probably in girl territory.

I quit everything cold turkey as I discussed in another thread. I’m not concerned about fertility and i can actually feel my balls starting to come back from the dead. I’m not running hormone bloods because I’m sure I’ll be hypogonadal and don’t want to deal with the psychological aspect of knowing if I’m not showing any real symptoms of so-called “low test.”

No more needles is quite liberating.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 12, 2025, 03:43:45 AM
I did 😊  👍🏻

11.4%

Impressive. You must have elite genetics mate.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Cook on March 12, 2025, 03:55:17 AM
Interesting thread since I turn 66 in a couple of weeks.Keep your stories or advice coming if you have any.They may be helpful for some of us.Have a good day guys.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 12, 2025, 04:35:14 AM
Methuselah was 969 when he died.

Wes is much older and still kicking.*



(*Obligatory post about wes' age.)
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 12, 2025, 04:47:15 AM
I did 😊  👍🏻

11.4%

64 years old, 5’6”, 225-230, 11.4% bodyfat.  LOL

You lie worse than Bhanks.  At least he isn’t afraid to post a picture.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: falco on March 12, 2025, 06:57:15 AM
good question, to show your gluteus maximus to the judges?

In your case yes. I quited competing back in 2007.

Props on your competition drive and longevity.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: wes on March 12, 2025, 08:15:49 AM
Wes is much older and still kicking.*



(*Obligatory post about wes' age.)
Yes an old age "wes" post must be posted at least once a month.    :D 
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: B_B_C on March 12, 2025, 08:36:14 AM
64 years old, 5’6”, 225-230, 11.4% bodyfat.  LOL

You lie worse than Bhanks.  At least he isn’t afraid to post a picture.

that is no way to talk to one of the Dingleberries
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 12, 2025, 08:55:28 AM
That just seems way too heavy for that height. If you feel good that’s one thing but I can’t imagine that’s healthy.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 12, 2025, 09:27:48 AM
64 years old, 5’6”, 225-230, 11.4% bodyfat.  LOL

You lie worse than Bhanks.  At least he isn’t afraid to post a picture.

I don't want to get in a pissing match with illuminati, but those are some insane stats. If given the benefit of the doubt, because he knows how ruthless getbig is and will call out baloney no matter who eventually, could it be an issue of faulty bodyfat % testing, perhaps due to method? Those are absolute elite, pro bb, Mr O competitor, stats at 64, right? Will look "shredded" in the gym in a tank top, at least to the average bro.

People said/thought I wasn't "fat" because I had veiny forearms but I was well over 20% like in my avatar (5'10'' or 11'' I think and 114kg/I think about 255lbs).
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 12, 2025, 09:29:31 AM
I don't want to get in a pissing match with illuminati, but those are some insane stats. If given the benefit of the doubt, because he knows how ruthless getbig is and will call out baloney no matter who eventually, could it be an issue of faulty bodyfat % testing, perhaps due to method? Those are absolute elite, pro bb, Mr O competitor, stats at 64, right? Will look "shredded" in the gym in a tank top, at least to the average bro.

People said/thought I wasn't "fat" because I had veiny forearms but I was well over 20% like in my avatar (5'10 or 11' I think and 114kg/I think about 255lbs).

Those are "Bhanky-level" numbers for sure.

Bhanky is an anomaly.

He's one in a billion like Arnold.

Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2025, 09:35:45 AM
Coach, how is your strength at 62?

My strength is good, still relatively strong for my age considering I have tears in each shoulder. Training has changed in recent years. Not training as heavy, exercise selections has changed. Due to the shoulder injuries I can’t do things like straight bar bench, anything incline with the exception of the hammer strength incline. When I squat I use either a safety bar with a box squat or belt squat. But I train legs every other week and ruck in the sand in the off weeks with a 60lb load. I will do Glute ham raises and posterior chain on my off weeks
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 12, 2025, 09:44:48 AM
My strength is good, still relatively strong for my age considering I have tears in each shoulder. Training has changed in recent years. Not training as heavy, exercise selections has changed. Due to the shoulder injuries I can’t do things like straight bar bench, anything incline with the exception of the hammer strength incline. When I squat I use either a safety bar with a box squat or belt squat. But I train legs every other week and ruck in the sand in the off weeks with a 60lb load. I will do Glute ham raises and posterior chain on my off weeks
Have you considered going back on the 100 rep system?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2025, 09:53:38 AM
Have you considered going back on the 100 rep system?

I actually just finished a variation of it last month. I did it for 8 weeks.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: SF1900 on March 12, 2025, 09:54:09 AM
Coach, you are not carrying too much muscle. You are beautiful just the way you are!
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 12, 2025, 09:55:46 AM
I actually just finished a variation of it last month. I did it for 8 weeks.
Congratulations! I doubt if I could stick with that for 8 days. Brutal system.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2025, 09:56:11 AM
Coach, you are not carrying too much muscle. You are beautiful just the way you are!

Yes, that’s what my tells me lol
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: SF1900 on March 12, 2025, 09:59:02 AM
Yes, that’s what my tells me lol

Your wife?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 12, 2025, 09:59:28 AM
I actually just finished a variation of it last month. I did it for 8 weeks.

What does the method look like? Is it like Parillo's 50/100 rep sets done periodically, like squats in the belt squat machine (with a spotter if unable to hit the numbers, remember the gay pics with Bob Chick)?

Parillo had that horrible "planing" thing to be done after the set
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2025, 10:02:13 AM
Congratulations! I doubt if I could stick with that for 8 days. Brutal system.

It’s less brutal the way I varied it. Doing it the way we used to back the 80’s would be way too difficult. I suppose I could but my head isn’t into that kind of intensity. I would need a training partner, a numbers clicker to keep track of reps and a log book and a throw up bucket and now, an AED lol
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2025, 10:02:48 AM
Your wife?

Yes, that
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: falco on March 13, 2025, 05:13:18 AM
Coach, you are not carrying too much muscle. You are beautiful just the way you are!

One can see the positive vibes and love everywhere, now that Donald Trump brought hope for a better future. Worldwide.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: BigRo on March 13, 2025, 07:23:45 AM
One can see the positive vibes and love everywhere, now that Donald Trump brought hope for a better future. Worldwide.

lol lets see if he has a tantrum with Putin if Putin does not accept this ceasefire without a thousand pre conditions. When Zelensky shows a bit of strength he is said to not want the war to end but when Putin does not compromise it is seen as a great thing, weird.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 13, 2025, 07:45:01 AM
lol lets see if he has a tantrum with Putin if Putin does not accept this ceasefire without a thousand pre conditions. When Zelensky shows a bit of strength he is said to not want the war to end but when Putin does not compromise it is seen as a great thing, weird.

The Russians have repeatedly said they will not accept a ceasefire so it's nothing that Trump shouldn't be aware of.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Raymondo on March 13, 2025, 07:46:02 AM
I'm 64 same height as Coach & weigh around 225-30lbs blood pressure normal
Resting heart rate 56 bodyfat 10-12%. No joint issues, I do a lot of stretching /
Flexibility work - I feel comfortable at this weight.

Oh man, sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Raymondo on March 13, 2025, 08:04:47 AM
One can see the positive vibes and love everywhere, now that Donald Trump brought hope for a better future. Worldwide.

What is it with all you 5'4 manlets and your love for Trump?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 13, 2025, 08:06:45 AM
What is it with all you 5'4 manlets and your love for Trump?
Wouldn't someone 5'4 be more of a Putin fan if height mattered?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Raymondo on March 13, 2025, 08:35:56 AM
Wouldn't someone 5'4 be more of a Putin fan if height mattered?

They love Putin too.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 13, 2025, 08:52:44 AM
They love Putin too.
Do you prefer Zelensky? He's a manlet as well.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Raymondo on March 13, 2025, 10:31:30 AM
Do you prefer Zelensky? He's a manlet as well.

Not sure how Zelensky comes into this but it certainly sounds like your mummy packs your asshole with ADHD and whataboutery before you leave for school in the morning.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 13, 2025, 10:35:33 AM
Oh man, sorry to hear that.

Are there “things”, junior? Speak up, let it out “Raymondo” don’t be shy
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: funk51 on March 13, 2025, 10:49:44 AM
 
                                Living to an advanced age like 97, even with obesity, can be influenced by various factors. Here are some key aspects that can contribute to longevity in such cases:

1. Genetics

Family History: Genetics play a significant role in lifespan. Some individuals may have a genetic predisposition to longevity, regardless of body weight.
2. Lifestyle Choices

Diet: While obesity often correlates with poor dietary choices, a person can still maintain a relatively healthy diet that includes essential nutrients. A balanced diet rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and lean proteins can help mitigate some health risks.
Physical Activity: Regular physical activity, even in moderate amounts, can improve health outcomes. Activities like walking, swimming, or low-impact exercises can be beneficial.
3. Health Management

Regular Check-ups: Keeping up with medical appointments and managing chronic conditions (like diabetes or hypertension) can significantly affect overall health and longevity.
Medication Compliance: Taking prescribed medications for any health issues can help manage risks associated with obesity.
4. Mental Health

Social Connections: Strong social ties and community involvement can enhance mental well-being and are often associated with longer lifespans.
Stress Management: Effective coping strategies for stress, such as mindfulness or hobbies, can contribute to better overall health.
5. Access to Healthcare

Quality Medical Care: Access to good healthcare can lead to early detection and treatment of health issues, which is crucial for extending life.
6. Positive Attitude

Outlook on Life: A positive mindset and resilience can contribute to better health outcomes and longevity.
Conclusion

While obesity is associated with various health risks, individual circumstances, including genetics, lifestyle choices, and healthcare access, can significantly influence longevity. Each person's situation is unique, and many factors can contribute to a long and fulfilling life, even in the presence of obesity. I think you'll be alright, if you feel good why lose the muscle mass. I, myself stood an incredible 68 and a quarter inches from the ground in my stocking feet and weighed between 150 lbs to 225 lbs at various times and for various reasons and I made it to 73 and counting. Why worry about it.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: SF1900 on March 13, 2025, 12:22:09 PM
One can see the positive vibes and love everywhere, now that Donald Trump brought hope for a better future. Worldwide.

Nothing to do with Trump. Im a pretty loving guy in general. Always have been. That's why Rory loves me so much.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Bevo on March 13, 2025, 05:19:28 PM
Nothing to do with Trump. Im a pretty loving guy in general. Always have been. That's why Rory loves me so much.

You are so lucky to have Rory
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 13, 2025, 06:08:55 PM
I'm 64 same height as Coach & weigh around 225-30lbs blood pressure normal
Resting heart rate 56 bodyfat 10-12%. No joint issues, I do a lot of stretching /
Flexibility work - I feel comfortable at this weight.

I have seen relatively recent pics of Illuminati, I’d say that what he is claiming is pretty accurate.

10*

* Illuminati standing next to JPJ.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 13, 2025, 09:55:13 PM
I have seen relatively recent pics of Illuminati, I’d say that what he is claiming is pretty accurate.

10*

* Illuminati standing next to JPJ.

Well, what about the no joint issues, that's a miracle for a former elite powerlifter :D
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2025, 11:17:42 PM
Well, what about the no joint issues, that's a miracle for a former elite powerlifter :D

Nope no joint issues -  except for wrists in the cold weather
They crack & pop & are stiff.

I've been a long time user of glucosamine & chondrotin & always warmed up
+ a lot of flexibility work.

I do have an injury or 2 🤷🏻‍♂️   :'(
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 14, 2025, 04:54:27 AM
Nope no joint issues -  except for wrists in the cold weather
They crack & pop & are stiff.

I've been a long time user of glucosamine & chondrotin & always warmed up
+ a lot of flexibility work.

I do have an injury or 2 🤷🏻‍♂️   :'(

That's amazing, Usually, at a minimum the shoulders are gone. One of my training partners is an older elite lifter, 58, and his foot collapsed squatting and after surgeries his one leg is 2 inches shorter. He stopped training altogether, too depressed and maybe prideful to show up in the gym all handicapped. I'm sad for him, for some people the gym is a central place in their lives that keeps everything together and then it's gone... :'(
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: illuminati on March 14, 2025, 06:55:40 AM
That's amazing, Usually, at a minimum the shoulders are gone. One of my training partners is an older elite lifter, 58, and his foot collapsed squatting and after surgeries his one leg is 2 inches shorter. He stopped training altogether, too depressed and maybe prideful to show up in the gym all handicapped. I'm sad for him, for some people the gym is a central place in their lives that keeps everything together and then it's gone... :'(

I do press behind neck full range of motion no issues with my
shoulders - only can't use much poundage due to triceps & nerve
damage in left arm - accident out of Gym.

I can relate to your friend I went through a bad patch when I tore
my pec & was reduced to having to go from 220kg to staring with
just the bar.  That was many years ago.

With my damaged left arm & pec tear my bench poundage is
laughable now - hence I don't do them out of self embarrassment.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 14, 2025, 07:22:58 AM
Not sure how Zelensky comes into this but it certainly sounds like your mummy packs your asshole with ADHD and whataboutery before you leave for school in the morning.
You brought up Putin.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 14, 2025, 11:53:50 AM
Well, what about the no joint issues, that's a miracle for a former elite powerlifter :D

Joint issues are relative, maybe he’s not a whiny fucking hankins crybaby?

Either way, the man says no serious issues, so it’s no serious issues.

And your answer is, take more drugs, because that’s your answer to everything.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 14, 2025, 12:13:01 PM
Joint issues are relative, maybe he’s not a whiny fucking hankins crybaby?

Either way, the man says no serious issues, so it’s no serious issues.

And your answer is, take more drugs, because that’s your answer to everything.

Why inject (lol) hostility into this exchange, my comment wasn't meant to question illuminati, just joking a bit because most powerlifters mention issues and pains if asked, no matter how tough. Drugs were also not on my mind. I can't even recall if illuminati has ever mentioned his use or nonuse of PEDs.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 14, 2025, 07:57:50 PM
Why inject (lol) hostility into this exchange, my comment wasn't meant to question illuminati, just joking a bit because most powerlifters mention issues and pains if asked, no matter how tough. Drugs were also not on my mind. I can't even recall if illuminati has ever mentioned his use or nonuse of PEDs.

I'm perfectly calm Dude.

Calmer than you are.

😂
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 15, 2025, 08:05:39 AM
I have seen relatively recent pics of Illuminati, I’d say that what he is claiming is pretty accurate.

10*

* Illuminati standing next to JPJ.

Walter, can you at least post a recent pic of Illuminati's foot for proof?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 15, 2025, 08:36:14 AM
Walter, can you at least post a recent pic of Illuminati's foot for proof?

Just PM him for spank bank material you creepy fucking phaggot.

If you starve your kids this month, and don’t pay their child support, maybe you can afford to join his OnlyFans site.

You definitely filmed your kids in the bathtub and jerked off to the videos later.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 15, 2025, 01:15:05 PM
Just PM him for spank bank material you creepy fucking phaggot.

If you starve your kids this month, and don’t pay their child support, maybe you can afford to join his OnlyFans site.

You definitely filmed your kids in the bathtub and jerked off to the videos later.

Golly, Walter, I just asked a simple question.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b45e038f72fd30c170e4f76c5d333f80/tenor.gif?itemid=16546170)
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: falco on March 15, 2025, 02:26:40 PM
Nothing to do with Trump. Im a pretty loving guy in general. Always have been. That's why Rory loves me so much.
I hope it stays that way.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: falco on March 15, 2025, 02:29:00 PM
What is it with all you 5'4 manlets and your love for Trump?
I'm 5'9. I am a tall manlet, if you please!
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: falco on March 15, 2025, 02:30:57 PM
Wouldn't someone 5'4 be more of a Putin fan if height mattered?
Strong point there. Trump is shrinking a bit, but it's way higher than Putin.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: falco on March 15, 2025, 02:32:26 PM
They love Putin too.
Not me. Just the great White hope.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 15, 2025, 05:39:32 PM
Golly, Walter, I just asked a simple question.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b45e038f72fd30c170e4f76c5d333f80/tenor.gif?itemid=16546170)

Sorry IronNat, my apologies, I got a wee bit carried away. With Hankins gone I need an outlet to call someone a dumb fucking kunt everyday.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Zillotch on March 15, 2025, 06:06:33 PM
With Hankins gone I need an outlet to call someone a dumb fucking kunt everyday.

problem is - u r the next largest dumb cun t on this forum after bhank.

maybe grab a mirror...
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 15, 2025, 06:50:19 PM
problem is - u r the next largest dumb cun t on this forum after bhank.

maybe grab a mirror...

No, even with the flattery, I’m still not going to let you suck my dick. Your wife’s and daughter’s permissions still remain intact.

Put the candy down, pull out of your nephew, and go workout for once in your life.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 16, 2025, 04:58:54 AM
Sorry IronNat, my apologies, I got a wee bit carried away. With Hankins gone I need an outlet to call someone a dumb fucking kunt everyday.

No problem, Walter.

I could sense you were imagining i was Bhanky.

 ;)
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 16, 2025, 05:45:00 AM
Sorry IronNat, my apologies, I got a wee bit carried away. With Hankins gone I need an outlet to call someone a dumb fucking kunt everyday.


Bhanks is gone?
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: French on March 16, 2025, 05:59:27 AM
All these years of heavy gears will soon kill you, your body will shut down massively. Stop everything and do Yoga and Pilate.
Title: Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
Post by: IroNat on March 16, 2025, 07:54:48 AM
All these years of heavy gears will soon kill you, your body will shut down massively. Stop everything and do Yoga and Pilate.

It worked for Gene Hackman.