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Trump claimed on social media that Portland was "war ravaged" which is why he is sending troops here "authoring full force." Trump also said the decision is necessary to protect U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which he described as “under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists.”
I call bullshit!
Yesterday, I went to the audiologist to pick up a hearing device. They are located at 5200 S Macadam Ave STE 200, Portland, OR 97239 which is 3 minutes and a just a couple of blocks away from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, located at 4310 S Macadam Ave, Portland, OR 97239. I saw no evidence of any type of disturbance, much less something appearing to be war ravaged. So, I wondered what happened at ICE between 2:00 pm on 9/26/2025 and today that would cause it to be war ravaged. Below is a photo taken today of the U.S. Customs Enforcement facilities. Where are all these domestic terrorists? Did they go home already?
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A person (not me) stands outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility on Saturday, Sept. 27, 2025, in Portland, Ore. (AP Photo/Gillian Flaccus) Channel 13 news.
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Did you wear your Antifa uniform on this trip?
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Did you wear your Antifa uniform on this trip?
I did wear Antifa garb, thinking I would just blend in with the crowd in my "Black bloc" attire. But unfortunately, there was only one loan preoccupied person standing out front of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement building to notice what I was wearing and he apparently did not give a rip.
When I drove for 3 minutes to the audiologist, she asked why I was so weirdly dressed and why I was not wearing one of my usual very conservative LL Bean plaid shirts with khakis. To be honest, I was at a loss as to what to say to her. Apparently, she had not noticed anyone or anything unusual, like a bunch of "domestic terrorists" or that Trump identified this area being part of “war ravaged Portland".
No doubt she will take notice when the troops show up because this is when things will start getting harrier. Fortunately for her, she is not Latina, does not speak Spanish or otherwise resemble an illegal alien in anyway. Like I normally do she also dresses very conservatively, at least when she is at work.
To be honest, I found this to be a rather awkward situation, so it took off my black Antifa mask. I thought about also stripping off all the Antifa costume down to my make America great again bodybuilder style bikini which I was wearing under the Antifa disguise, but I did not want the other folks waiting to have their hearing evaluated to be shocked or turned on by my magnificently muscled body -- see below.
(https://media.gq.com/photos/67a636961afed01808a0c9b3/master/w_1920,c_limit/gay-maga-edit.jpg)
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Trump claimed on social media that Portland was "war ravaged" which is why he is sending troops here "authoring full force." Trump also said the decision is necessary to protect U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which he described as “under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists.”
I call bullshit!
Yesterday, I went to the audiologist to pick up a hearing device. They are located at 5200 S Macadam Ave STE 200, Portland, OR 97239 which is 3 minutes and a just a couple of blocks away from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, located at 4310 S Macadam Ave, Portland, OR 97239. I saw no evidence of any type of disturbance, much less something appearing to be war ravaged. So, I wondered what happened at ICE between 2:00 pm on 9/26/2025 and today that would cause it to be war ravaged. Below is a photo taken today of the U.S. Customs Enforcement facilities. Where are all these domestic terrorists? Did they go home already?
(https://www.wowktv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2025/09/68d84ada7dda69.55946155.jpeg?w=876&h=493&crop=1)
A person (not me) stands outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility on Saturday, Sept. 27, 2025, in Portland, Ore. (AP Photo/Gillian Flaccus) Channel 13 news.
Now you can feel safer behind your high fence in your lily white neighborhood. You're welcome. 8)
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Now you can feel safer behind your high fence in your lily white neighborhood. You're welcome. 8)
You are so right! Like Dorothy said whilst clicking the heals of her red shoes together three times, “there is no place like home, there is no place like home.”
Unfortunately, West Linn city ordinances limit front yard fencing to a maximum height of 3 feet. But my backyard feels more like a safe haven because it has a city approved 6-foot fence enclosing it.
The house next door to me is up for sale. I sure hope a nice lily white upper middle-class family moves in, installs appropriately sized perimeter fencing, and they keep their lawn properly watered and mowed, preferably by legal U.S. citizen Latino, or Asian gardeners. For some reason, Black folks are not interested in working as gardeners or housekeepers these days. Perhaps they are too busy selling subscriptions to magazines door to door, which will probably never be delivered.
And then there are the sad faced large East Indian families who are day-visiting from their homeless camps located outside our nice little tight knit community, will continue to keep to their respective corners and islands in the Safeway parking lot, while holding up signs asking for donations for this, that and other things.
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Recent photos taken by citizens of "war ravaged" Portland, OR
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"Ah, the ravaged part must be when someone parked their SUV under the cherry blossoms and started taking pictures. Oh the humanity!"
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Steel bridge Sunday morning
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People are… DANCING… in public!!!!!!
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"I think I see some leaves that could use sweeping. Good thing the national guard had some gardening practice in DC."
(https://preview.redd.it/post-your-pics-of-war-ravaged-portland-here-v0-amtdkppo5qrf1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3bc1df8a852f0055602e874bba309b9f84acaf13)
"The smoldering ruins of Lan Su Chinese Garden."
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Then there is this photo that Trump took. LOL!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/oregon/comments/1nsaypb/whats_the_guard_gonna_do_portland_today_92725_and/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/oregon/comments/1nsaypb/whats_the_guard_gonna_do_portland_today_92725_and/)
What's the Guard Gonna Do? Portland Today 9.27.25 and new song.
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Skip to 7:43 to see current videos of war ravaged Portland, OR
Oregon's response to Trump's plan to send troops to Portland, OR
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Very selective pics. ::) Why not show the riots and violent protests?
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Very selective pics. ::) Why not show the riots and violent protests?
Because there are currently no riots or violent protests going on in Portland, OR. Just as there were no riots or protests going on yesterday when Trump announced he was sending in the troops and called Portland 'war ravaged.' Portland is not war ravaged as is evidenced by the photos and videos people have taken yesterday and today. How does one post current pictures of something that is not happening?
AI
"According to news reports from Sunday, September 28, 2025, minor clashes occurred between protesters and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents outside the ICE facility in south Portland. These isolated incidents do not represent widespread violent protest across the city, though state and city officials have expressed concern that the recent federal deployment could provoke unrest.
Details regarding protests on September 28, 2025:"
https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible-coin/event/851587
https://www.koin.com/news/portland/portland-rally-trump-federal-troop-announcement-09282025
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Prime obviously has no idea what going on in his own city
https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1972029980105494574?s=46
https://x.com/magavoice/status/1941374363745567002?s=46
https://x.com/warclandestine/status/1972148867492680075?s=46
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Prime obviously has no idea what going on in his own city
https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1972029980105494574?s=46
https://x.com/magavoice/status/1941374363745567002?s=46
https://x.com/warclandestine/status/1972148867492680075?s=46
He's a NIMBY liberal in an affluent white suburb, just 1% blacks and low crime.
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Prime obviously has no idea what going on in his own city
https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1972029980105494574?s=46
https://x.com/magavoice/status/1941374363745567002?s=46
https://x.com/warclandestine/status/1972148867492680075?s=46
I'm pretty sure those clips are a few years old during the Floyd riots.
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Oregon's response to Trump's plan to send troops to Portland, OR
If your leader looks like the person on the left of the pic, you're fucked.
It's an odd thing for me to say, but the patterns have been undeniable.
You can tell someone's politics on sight.
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I'm pretty sure those clips are a few years old during the Floyd riots.
Don't go against your leader if Trump says it's a war zone then it's a war zone. earlier footage from Portland above.
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He's a NIMBY liberal in an affluent white suburb, just 1% blacks and low crime.
He’s a career janitor who married up. Also, a Libcunt!
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If your leader looks like the person on the left of the pic, you're fucked.
It's an odd thing for me to say, but the patterns have been undeniable.
You can tell someone's politics on sight.
:D No shit! The most androgynous person I've seen today.
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I did wear Antifa garb, thinking I would just blend in with the crowd in my "Black bloc" attire. But unfortunately, there was only one loan preoccupied person standing out front of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement building to notice what I was wearing and he apparently did not give a rip.
When I drove for 3 minutes to the audiologist, she asked why I was so weirdly dressed and why I was not wearing one of my usual very conservative LL Bean plaid shirts with khakis. To be honest, I was at a loss as to what to say to her. Apparently, she had not noticed anyone or anything unusual, like a bunch of "domestic terrorists" or that Trump identified this area being part of “war ravaged Portland".
No doubt she will take notice when the troops show up because this is when things will start getting harrier. Fortunately for her, she is not Latina, does not speak Spanish or otherwise resemble an illegal alien in anyway. Like I normally do she also dresses very conservatively, at least when she is at work.
To be honest, I found this to be a rather awkward situation, so it took off my black Antifa mask. I thought about also stripping off all the Antifa costume down to my make America great again bodybuilder style bikini which I was wearing under the Antifa disguise, but I did not want the other folks waiting to have their hearing evaluated to be shocked or turned on by my magnificently muscled body -- see below.
(https://media.gq.com/photos/67a636961afed01808a0c9b3/master/w_1920,c_limit/gay-maga-edit.jpg)
Gayer than Kevin Spacy.
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Recent photos taken by citizens of "war ravaged" Portland, OR
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"Ah, the ravaged part must be when someone parked their SUV under the cherry blossoms and started taking pictures. Oh the humanity!"
(https://preview.redd.it/post-your-pics-of-war-ravaged-portland-here-v0-5wvqd6c34qrf1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0ee50d527f3f40f206b79fc36792e3a6170682cb)
Steel bridge Sunday morning
(https://preview.redd.it/post-your-pics-of-war-ravaged-portland-here-v0-ki1e1ajm9qrf1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e6219059d120ea3c972476c4a0467b32b0b1a09e)
People are… DANCING… in public!!!!!!
(https://preview.redd.it/post-your-pics-of-war-ravaged-portland-here-v0-blewhorwvqrf1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=546431d222d463565d2659bd809a6c0408d6bc84)
"I think I see some leaves that could use sweeping. Good thing the national guard had some gardening practice in DC."
(https://preview.redd.it/post-your-pics-of-war-ravaged-portland-here-v0-amtdkppo5qrf1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3bc1df8a852f0055602e874bba309b9f84acaf13)
"The smoldering ruins of Lan Su Chinese Garden."
(https://preview.redd.it/post-your-pics-of-war-ravaged-portland-here-v0-o92p2t936qrf1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=706d3b01ee72a04eaa23b02d7865b608c55c7d0d)
Then there is this photo that Trump took. LOL!
So are you saying there is zero Antifa violence in Portland?
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So are you saying there is zero Antifa violence in Portland?
No. I am saying Portland is not "war ravaged" as Trump claims it currently is. As I expected there would be, last Sunday night there was a protest in Portland against Trump sending 200 unneeded National Guard troops to Portland for 60 days. https://www.kptv.com/video/2025/09/29/ice-supporters-protesters-face-off-portland-ice-building-2-arrests-pt-1
Portland is a sanctuary city, and Oregon is a sanctuary state. It is understandable that many folks disagree with ICE ramping up arrests and detainments of suspected illegal aliens and some of them are protesting. Protests are legal under the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of assembly and speech. In Portland, a permit for protests that stay on sidewalks and don't obstruct traffic or pedestrian movement. is not required or needed.
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I'm pretty sure those clips are a few years old during the Floyd riots.
Coach knowingly posted outdated videos, hoping to prove his point. Had he waited, he could have posted videos of Sunday night's protest.
In response to Trump announcing on social media that he is sending 200 National Guard troops to "war ravaged" Portland, several hundred folks protested last night. He is creating the problem not solving it.
Oregon filed a lawsuit over deployment of the National Guard to Portland.i=DrnzKYcOukjfGDTJ[/youtube]
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Reminds me of this debacle
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No. I am saying Portland is not "war ravaged" as Trump claims it currently is. As I expected there would be, last Sunday night there was a protest in Portland against Trump sending 200 unneeded National Guard troops to Portland for 60 days. https://www.kptv.com/video/2025/09/29/ice-supporters-protesters-face-off-portland-ice-building-2-arrests-pt-1
Portland is a sanctuary city, and Oregon is a sanctuary state. It is understandable that many folks disagree with ICE ramping up arrests and detainments of suspected illegal aliens and some of them are protesting. Protests are legal under the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of assembly and speech. In Portland, a permit for protests that stay on sidewalks and don't obstruct traffic or pedestrian movement. is not required or needed.
Ok. Thanks for clarifying. I haven't been tracking the current condition, but I know it absolutely was "war ravaged" several years ago, when those domestic terrorists attacked a federal courthouse for like two months straight.
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If your leader looks like the person on the left of the pic, you're fucked.
It's an odd thing for me to say, but the patterns have been undeniable.
You can tell someone's politics on sight.
Looks like Megan Rappinoe.
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Because there are currently no riots or violent protests going on in Portland, OR. Just as there were no riots or protests going on yesterday when Trump announced he was sending in the troops and called Portland 'war ravaged.' Portland is not war ravaged as is evidenced by the photos and videos people have taken yesterday and today. How does one post current pictures of something that is not happening?
AI
"According to news reports from Sunday, September 28, 2025, minor clashes occurred between protesters and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents outside the ICE facility in south Portland. These isolated incidents do not represent widespread violent protest across the city, though state and city officials have expressed concern that the recent federal deployment could provoke unrest.
Details regarding protests on September 28, 2025:"
https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible-coin/event/851587
https://www.koin.com/news/portland/portland-rally-trump-federal-troop-announcement-09282025
I guess that would depend on your definition of "minor clashes" with federal agents.
No. I am saying Portland is not "war ravaged" as Trump claims it currently is. As I expected there would be, last Sunday night there was a protest in Portland against Trump sending 200 unneeded National Guard troops to Portland for 60 days. https://www.kptv.com/video/2025/09/29/ice-supporters-protesters-face-off-portland-ice-building-2-arrests-pt-1
Portland is a sanctuary city, and Oregon is a sanctuary state. It is understandable that many folks disagree with ICE ramping up arrests and detainments of suspected illegal aliens and some of them are protesting. Protests are legal under the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of assembly and speech. In Portland, a permit for protests that stay on sidewalks and don't obstruct traffic or pedestrian movement. is not required or needed.
States can pretend to be "sanctuaries for criminals" all they want, the federal government doesn't care. Federal law > state law
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Recent pics of Portland:
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(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/UYMVUX3NPFCTGFORB5NRPW4PR4.JPG&w=1200)
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(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/03/26/opinion/26Vietnam-Appy/26Vietnam-Appy-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)
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Recent pics of Portland:
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I see Antifa fell for the old "Modern Day Missile Made By Ukraine" on the Temu site.
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https://x.com/kjv66/status/1973043569821966360?s=46
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Heard Portland just got a hefty transportation tax.
Driving through a war ravaged landscape is expensive.
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Ok. Thanks for clarifying. I haven't been tracking the current condition, but I know it absolutely was "war ravaged" several years ago, when those domestic terrorists attacked a federal courthouse for like two months straight.
The killing of George Floyd sparked the BLM protests/riots in Portland in 2020. The damage rioters caused was disgusting, but the media also blew it out of proportion. The riots were concentrated around the federal courthouse and Justice Center.
Property damage covered an 18-block area of downtown Portland which is less than one square mile. To put this in perspective, there are 270 blocks total in downtown Portland or 13.5 square miles. No buildings were demolished during the riots. But there were instances of significant property damage, including broken windows, vandalism, and small fires set inside and near public and private buildings.
Many businesses outside that small area either closed completely or stayed open but boarded up windows to avoid having them broken and having their businesses looted. When I went to the West Elm home furnishings store in NW Portland and well outside that 18 block area, they not only had the windows boarded up, folks had to make an appointment to shop there, which was a nuisance since I did not know this the unproductive trip was a waste of my time, and parking meter expense which today is $2.60 an hour but was less in 2020.
Sadly, five major public art pieces in Portland were toppled or heavily vandalized during the riots. As of today, some are still being repaired and none have been reinstalled. Some of these will be installed in new locations. Some but not all of the building damaged have been completely repaired. The estimated cost, which includes repairs and loss of business is just over $20 million.
One person, Aaron Danielson, was shot and died here as a result of the 2020 protests/riots. The exact number of people injured during the riots is unknown.
As bad as the riot caused death, damage and destruction was, Portland was not literally "war ravaged." To say this is a gross overstatement.
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The killing of George Floyd sparked the BLM protests/riots in Portland in 2020. The damage rioters caused was disgusting, but the media also blew it out of proportion. The riots were concentrated around the federal courthouse and Justice Center.
Property damage covered an 18-block area of downtown Portland which is less than one square mile. To put this in perspective, there are 270 blocks total in downtown Portland or 13.5 square miles. No buildings were demolished during the riots. But there were instances of significant property damage, including broken windows, vandalism, and small fires set inside and near public and private buildings.
Many businesses outside that small area either closed completely or stayed open but boarded up windows to avoid having them broken and having their businesses looted. When I went to the West Elm home furnishings store in NW Portland and well outside that 18 block area, they not only had the windows boarded up, folks had to make an appointment to shop there, which was a nuisance since I did not know this the unproductive trip was a waste of my time, and parking meter expense which today is $2.60 an hour but was less in 2020.
Sadly, five major public art pieces in Portland were toppled or heavily vandalized during the riots. As of today, some are still being repaired and none have been reinstalled. Some of these will be installed in new locations. Some but not all of the building damaged have been completely repaired. The estimated cost, which includes repairs and loss of business is just over $20 million.
One person, Aaron Danielson, was shot and died here as a result of the 2020 protests/riots. The exact number of people injured during the riots is unknown.
As bad as the riot caused death, damage and destruction was, Portland was not literally "war ravaged." To say this is a gross overstatement.
George Floyd wasn't killed. He died of a fentanyl overdose.
I saw the pictures and videos in real time of what those domestic terrorists did in Portland during the riots. It wasn't covered nearly enough by the media. It absolutely looked like a war zone. What I don't know is what is currently happening in Portland.
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George Floyd wasn't killed. He died of a fentanyl overdose.
I saw the pictures and videos in real time of what those domestic terrorists did in Portland during the riots. It wasn't covered nearly enough by the media. It absolutely looked like a war zone. What I don't know is what is currently happening in Portland.
Yeah right. Multitudes of folks disagree with you. And since you were neither there at the time of his death nor I suspect knew George Floyd you are hardly an expert on this matter. But "Five years after Floyd’s killing, false claims of overdose fuel calls for Trump to pardon the police officers involved." Evidently these folks are unaware that Trump has no authority to pardon Derek Chauvin because the U.S. Constitution gives the president the power to issue pardons only for federal offenses and Derek's was a state-level murder conviction.
On the other hand, since Trump gives the middle finger to the U.S. Constitution on an almost daily basis by flouting the law, anything is possible, I guess.
Apparently, you forgot that I live in the Portland Metro area and therefore had and have reason to occasionally drive 12 miles to downtown Portland, as I did last Friday. What you saw in real time in pictures and videos may have, as they usually do, sensationalized those events rather than underplaying them.
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Yeah right. Multitudes of folks disagree with you.
What does the autopsy say?
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Yeah right. Multitudes of folks disagree with you. And since you were neither there at the time of his death nor I suspect knew George Floyd you are hardly an expert on this matter. But "Five years after Floyd’s killing, false claims of overdose fuel calls for Trump to pardon the police officers involved." Evidently these folks are unaware that Trump has no authority to pardon Derek Chauvin because the U.S. Constitution gives the president the power to issue pardons only for federal offenses and Derek's was a state-level murder conviction.
On the other hand, since Trump gives the middle finger to the U.S. Constitution on an almost daily basis by flouting the law, anything is possible, I guess.
Apparently, you forgot that I live in the Portland Metro area and therefore had and have reason to occasionally drive 12 miles to downtown Portland, as I did last Friday. What you saw in real time in pictures and videos may have, as they usually do, sensationalized those events rather than underplaying them.
What does the autopsy say?
Chaos don't try and confuse Prime with the facts.
Intellectual honesty test incoming . . . .
Here is a link to the autopsy. Note the Toxicology section (VI). This dude had morphine, caffeine, marijuana, methamphetamine, and fentanyl in his system.
See section VI.A.1: "Fentanyl 11 ng/mL." A lethal dose is 2 ng/ML. Even if you double that to account for his size and the fact he was a friggin crackhead, he still had enough fentanyl in his body to kill a horse. He was going to die after he swallowed all that fentanyl.
See section III: "No life-threatening injuries identified." No damage to his neck, windpipe, etc.
So yes, like I said, George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6936176-Autopsy-2020-3700-Floyd/
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Portland Has Fallen. Let it burn!
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Chaos don't try and confuse Prime with the facts.
Intellectual honesty test incoming . . . .
Here is a link to the autopsy. Note the Toxicology section (VI). This dude had morphine, caffeine, marijuana, methamphetamine, and fentanyl in his system.
See section VI.A.1: "Fentanyl 11 ng/mL." A lethal dose is 2 ng/ML. Even if you double that to account for his size and the fact he was a friggin crackhead, he still had enough fentanyl in his body to kill a horse. He was going to die after he swallowed all that fentanyl.
See section III: "No life-threatening injuries identified." No damage to his neck, windpipe, etc.
So yes, like I said, George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6936176-Autopsy-2020-3700-Floyd/
I don't know anything about flloyd, but tachyphylaxis can easily get someone into that range on fent, so you would have to take that into account. If he is using is consistently and on stims etc..
to be strangled to death you do not need to have damage etc..
What was the cop charged with and found guilty of? no up on it.
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I don't know anything about flloyd, but tachyphylaxis can easily get someone into that range on fent, so you would have to take that into account. If he is using is consistently and on stims etc..
to be strangled to death you do not need to have damage etc..
What was the cop charged with and found guilty of? no up on it.
State Convictions:
Second-Degree Unintentional Murder: Killing someone without intending to do so, but while committing or attempting to commit a felony.
Third-Degree Murder: Causing a death through actions that are dangerous to others and demonstrate a depraved indifference to human life, but without intent to cause death.
Second-Degree Manslaughter: Causing death through "culpable negligence" by consciously creating an unreasonable risk of death or great bodily harm.
Federal Conviction:
Civil Rights Violation: Chauvin pleaded guilty in federal court to willfully depriving George Floyd of his right to be free from unreasonable force by a police officer, which resulted in Floyd's death.
Sentenced to more than 20 years in prison for depriving George Floyd and a minor victim of their Constitutional rights.
Derek Chauvin was sentenced to a combined approximately 43.5 years in prison, with his 22.5-year state sentence for murder and manslaughter running concurrently with his 21-year federal sentence for civil rights violations. This means that his actual time in prison is determined by the longer of the two sentences, which is 22.5 years from the state conviction.
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I don't know anything about flloyd, but tachyphylaxis can easily get someone into that range on fent, so you would have to take that into account. If he is using is consistently and on stims etc..
to be strangled to death you do not need to have damage etc..
What was the cop charged with and found guilty of? no up on it.
If you don't know anything about Floyd then you have an uninformed opinion. Try reading the autopsy report.
Fentanyl is the most dangerous, deadly drug currently on the black market. If you are saying "tachyphlylaxis" can "easily" get someone to a level that exceeds a fatal dose by orders of magnitude, I am calling BS. His level was "into that range" because he swallowed the fentanyl when law enforcement approached him. He was going to die. And he did. Of a fentanyl overdose.
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If you don't know anything about Floyd then you have an uninformed opinion. Try reading the autopsy report.
Fentanyl is the most dangerous, deadly drug currently on the black market. If you are saying "tachyphlylaxis" can "easily" get someone to a level that exceeds a fatal dose by orders of magnitude, I am calling BS. His level was "into that range" because he swallowed the fentanyl when law enforcement approached him. He was going to die. And he did. Of a fentanyl overdose.
How can you call bs when you have no idea what you are talking about?
do you know what a fent abuser's levels can get to?
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Inside the Antifa siege on ‘war zone’ Portland and the resistance to the National Guard cleaning it up.
https://nypost.com/2025/10/01/us-news/inside-the-antifa-siege-on-war-zone-portland-and-the-resistance-to-the-national-guard-cleaning-it-up/
Violent Antifa criminals have laid siege to the ICE detention center in Portland, Oregon, for over 100 days.
Every night the encampment of wackos – some dressed as a unicorn or a chicken – blast loud music, engage in anti-government chants over loudspeakers and megaphones, and when they violently clash with law enforcement officers it reverberates around the neighborhood.
Since the protest started on June 2, neighbor Cloud Elvengrail has barely slept. Assaulted and bullied by the Antifa goons, she describes the area as a “war zone” and “terrifying.”
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How can you call bs when you have no idea what you are talking about?
do you know what a fent abuser's levels can get to?
I don't know anything about flloyd
You don't know anything about George Floyd, so it's you who don't know what the heck you're talking about. Go educate yourself about George Floyd then get back to me.
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Inside the Antifa siege on ‘war zone’ Portland and the resistance to the National Guard cleaning it up.
https://nypost.com/2025/10/01/us-news/inside-the-antifa-siege-on-war-zone-portland-and-the-resistance-to-the-national-guard-cleaning-it-up/
Violent Antifa criminals have laid siege to the ICE detention center in Portland, Oregon, for over 100 days.
Every night the encampment of wackos – some dressed as a unicorn or a chicken – blast loud music, engage in anti-government chants over loudspeakers and megaphones, and when they violently clash with law enforcement officers it reverberates around the neighborhood.
Since the protest started on June 2, neighbor Cloud Elvengrail has barely slept. Assaulted and bullied by the Antifa goons, she describes the area as a “war zone” and “terrifying.”
The ICE headquarters in Portland is a short term detention center with a maximum of 15 detainees who cannot be held there longer than 12 hours with no overnight stays. The facility is in a mixed residential and commercial neighborhood. One of the main commercial properties is OHSU medical offices.
It is understandable that neighborhood folks are upset by the disturbance. I know I would be if I lived there. However, to call it a "war zone" is an over-statement made by someone who likely has no idea what a war zone looks and sounds like.
Cloud Elvengrail has good reason to take issue with this because she sued the city and lost. ‘Judge rules in favor of city after woman sues Portland over ICE facility noise.’ Cloud sought to compel the city to enforce its noise ordinances to stop "weaponized noise" from the demonstrations. She lives a Gray's landing which is low to moderate income affordable rental housing and is literally across the street from ICE headquarters.
Residential high-rise condos and town houses nearby sell for as much as $3 million to $4 million. I imagine some of these property owners have a lot more influence than Cloud does – because as we all know money talks.
Here is a news video taken yesterday afternoon at Portland ICE headquarters. Note that the reporter says that teargas is sprayed on protestors who arrive around 6:00 pm and into the evening. For a war zone, this area sure cleans up nicely by the next day leaving no evidence of anything resembling a war zone.
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I don't know anything about flloyd, but tachyphylaxis can easily get someone into that range on fent, so you would have to take that into account. If he is using is consistently and on stims etc..
to be strangled to death you do not need to have damage etc..
What was the cop charged with and found guilty of? no up on it.
LOL @ trying to excuse a drug addicted, pregnant woman beating piece of shit. You weak ass beta liberals really are something. ;D
Dude OD'd, deal with it.
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If you don't know anything about Floyd then you have an uninformed opinion. Try reading the autopsy report.
Fentanyl is the most dangerous, deadly drug currently on the black market. If you are saying "tachyphlylaxis" can "easily" get someone to a level that exceeds a fatal dose by orders of magnitude, I am calling BS. His level was "into that range" because he swallowed the fentanyl when law enforcement approached him. He was going to die. And he did. Of a fentanyl overdose.
The medical examiner's conclusion:
Hennepin County Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker concluded Floyd's cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression". He listed the drug use and Floyd's underlying heart disease as "other significant conditions" that played a role, but not as the primary or "top line" cause.
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The medical examiner's conclusion:
Hennepin County Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker concluded Floyd's cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression". He listed the drug use and Floyd's underlying heart disease as "other significant conditions" that played a role, but not as the primary or "top line" cause.
Use your common sense. If the man had levels of the most dangerous drug on the streets in his system at levels that exceeded a fatal dose by orders of magnitude, he was going to die.
Here is what the medical examiner said, sort of speaking out of both sides of his mouth, but essentially admitting this was an overdose:
Handwritten notes of a law enforcement interview with Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, say Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his system.
"If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3," Baker told investigators.
In another new document, Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."
But then Baker added, "I am not saying this killed him."
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/new-court-docs-say-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04
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In another new document, Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."
But then Baker added, "I am not saying this killed him."[/i]
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/new-court-docs-say-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04
Has to make sure the media has what they need for propaganda.
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LOL @ trying to excuse a drug addicted, pregnant woman beating piece of shit. You weak ass beta liberals really are something. ;D
Dude OD'd, deal with it.
I was clearly trying to bait him into admitting the truth, he couldn't do it.
I don't give a fuck about what your talking about. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of dos equis, guy was charged and found gulity, yet there couldn't of been an insurrection because no charges were laid. Here you have a guy who is guilty various crimes yet you partisan tards believe things when they are convenient.
Where did I make an excuse about his behaviour you psycho? I think if you can read and I am aware you struggle with this, it appears I was disputing how he died nothing more. I didn't make any moral claims. Why don't you untuck you thong and relax.
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I was clearly trying to bait him into admitting the truth, he couldn't do it.
I don't give a fuck about what your talking about. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of dos equis, guy was charged and found gulity, yet there couldn't of been an insurrection because no charges were laid. Here you have a guy who is guilty various crimes yet you partisan tards believe things when they are convenient.
Where did I make an excuse about his behaviour you psycho? I think if you can read and I am aware you struggle with this, it appears I was disputing how he died nothing more. I didn't make any moral claims. Why don't you untuck you thong and relax.
He was found guilty due to political pressure. Imagine the riots if he was found innocent? If you think that a high profile case like that had no political pressure applied for a conviction, you're talking out of your ass.
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Portland is just another Dem ran shithole
https://x.com/c_3c_3/status/1974075763302469634?s=46
https://x.com/owenshroyer1776/status/1974106309894287664?s=46
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Portland is just another Dem ran shithole
https://x.com/c_3c_3/status/1974075763302469634?s=46
https://x.com/owenshroyer1776/status/1974106309894287664?s=46
Is there any dem run place that isn't a shithole?
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Is there any dem run place that isn't a shithole?
Their imaginations?
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Their imaginations?
Lib Fantasyland like Wakanda.
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Prime, if you voted to the Mayor, city council and Governor, you own this
https://www.oregon.gov/gov/pages/meet-the-governor.aspx
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Use your common sense. If the man had levels of the most dangerous drug on the streets in his system at levels that exceeded a fatal dose by orders of magnitude, he was going to die.
Here is what the medical examiner said, sort of speaking out of both sides of his mouth, but essentially admitting this was an overdose:
Handwritten notes of a law enforcement interview with Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, say Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his system.
"If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3," Baker told investigators.
In another new document, Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."
But then Baker added, "I am not saying this killed him."
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/new-court-docs-say-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04
Derek Chauvin had his knee on George Floyd's neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. Pressure on the neck is considered deadly force because it can restrict oxygen flow to the brain, leading to death in just minutes or even seconds.
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Derek Chauvin had his knee on George Floyd's neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. Pressure on the neck is considered deadly force because it can restrict oxygen flow to the brain, leading to death in just minutes or even seconds.
But that's not why he died.
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Derek Chauvin had his knee on George Floyd's neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. Pressure on the neck is considered deadly force because it can restrict oxygen flow to the brain, leading to death in just minutes or even seconds.
No he did not. Have you watched all of the body cam footage? His knee was on Floyd's traps using a "maximum restraint technique" that he was trained to use. His superiors outright lied on the witness stand saying it was not an approved technique. And the judge refused to allow evidence (a power point presentation used to train officers) showing that precise technique.
Again, use your common sense. If Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck for 9 minutes there would be at least some bruising or damage to his neck. There was none.
I know you are probably invested in the narrative that was sold to the entire country. Even I was fooled initially by what I thought I saw. But when I looked at all of the evidence it's really obvious that the man died of a fentanyl overdose. What I'm always willing to do is change my mind when presented with facts.
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But that's not why he died.
Nope. Drug overdose.
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But that's not why he died.
Really?
A jury of his peers and the coroner believed this it is why he died. George Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest caused by neck and back compression. The official autopsy done by Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County Medical Examiner concluded George Floyd's death was a homicide due to "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression". Derek Chauvin was found guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd in a 2021 state trial.
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Really?
A jury of his peers and the coroner believed this it is why he died. George Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest caused by neck and back compression. The official autopsy done by Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County Medical Examiner concluded George Floyd's death was a homicide due to "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression". Derek Chauvin was found guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd in a 2021 state trial.
Here are more comments made by the medical examiner:
"He told me that there were no medical findings that showed any injury to the vital structures of Mr. Floyd’s neck. There were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation.
"He said to me, ‘Amy, what happens when the actual evidence doesn't match up with the public narrative that everyone's already decided on?’ And then he said, ‘This is the kind of case that ends careers.’"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24112757-amy-sweasy-tamburino-aug-21-2023/?onlyshoworg=1&responsive=1&title=1&q=ends+careers&mode=document#document/p64
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Here are more comments made by the medical examiner:
"He told me that there were no medical findings that showed any injury to the vital structures of Mr. Floyd’s neck. There were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation.
"He said to me, ‘Amy, what happens when the actual evidence doesn't match up with the public narrative that everyone's already decided on?’ And then he said, ‘This is the kind of case that ends careers.’"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24112757-amy-sweasy-tamburino-aug-21-2023/?onlyshoworg=1&responsive=1&title=1&q=ends+careers&mode=document#document/p64
Did you get this nonsense directly from Tucker Carlson? LOL!
So what? Dr. Baker's final official cause of death ruling for George Floyd was homicide, with "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression" being the main factors. Understandably, the jury in Derek Chauvin's trial believed Dr Baker because Derek Chauvin was found guilty and went to prison where he currently resides.
Trump desperately continues trying to get National Guard troops to Portland without success. On Sunday Trump ranted "Portland is burning to the ground." Yeah right. ::)
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Is there any dem run place that isn't a shithole?
Walt Disney World?
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Their imaginations?
Red states are by in large economic drains while blue states subsidize them. Of course the highest crime areas are the cities and of course all the major cities aka the money makers are dem run. Is there any red cities of any magnitude?
It's like demo run stuff seems to be better off economically and red run stuff is more authoritarian, stricter etc.. One too far ahead of itself and one too far behind.
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It's like demo run stuff seems to be better off economically and red run stuff is more authoritarian, stricter etc.. One too far ahead of itself and one too far behind.
This might be the stupidest thing you've repeated from your tv. Have you ever been to a "blue" city? Have you driven through or around LA? It produces more cash flow because of it's location, not because of it's political affiliation and I would go so far to say it's political affiliation holds back the economy dramatically.
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Walt Disney World?
Possibly, if they aren't molesting the kids.
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This might be the stupidest thing you've repeated from your tv. Have you ever been to a "blue" city? Have you driven through or around LA? It produces more cash flow because of it's location, not because of it's political affiliation and I would go so far to say it's political affiliation holds back the economy dramatically.
You realize this stuff is able to be checked correct? blue states help red states. Blue cities have way more economic output. New york, chicago etc..
The economy factually does better under demos.
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No he did not. Have you watched all of the body cam footage? His knee was on Floyd's traps using a "maximum restraint technique" that he was trained to use. His superiors outright lied on the witness stand saying it was not an approved technique. And the judge refused to allow evidence (a power point presentation used to train officers) showing that precise technique.
Again, use your common sense. If Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck for 9 minutes there would be at least some bruising or damage to his neck. There was none.
I know you are probably invested in the narrative that was sold to the entire country. Even I was fooled initially by what I thought I saw. But when I looked at all of the evidence it's really obvious that the man died of a fentanyl overdose. What I'm always willing to do is change my mind when presented with facts.
"What I'm always willing to do is change my mind when presented with facts."
That u
is beacuase you are not Brainwashed by the MSM
Prime on the other hand is Totally Fucked by his Loony Leftism
& believing all the MSM tells him ::)
I don't like Cops Generally, Only Derek should've been given a medal
& set free for ridding the world of that shit bag Floyd - Fentanyl
killed him.
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Did you get this nonsense directly from Tucker Carlson? LOL!
So what? Dr. Baker's final official cause of death ruling for George Floyd was homicide, with "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression" being the main factors. Understandably, the jury in Derek Chauvin's trial believed Dr Baker because Derek Chauvin was found guilty and went to prison where he currently resides.
Trump desperately continues trying to get National Guard troops to Portland without success. On Sunday Trump ranted "Portland is burning to the ground." Yeah right. ::)
You obviously didn't read the link I provided, which is a transcript of testimony containing the quotes. What in the world does Tucker Carlson have to do with any of this? You sound like a zombie.
You failed the intellectual honesty test. I gave you a link to the autopsy showing a lethal dose of fentanyl in Floyd's system and no damage to his neck. I gave you a link to the ME's own words admitting this would normally be deemed an overdose. I just gave you a link showing the ME was concerned that the actual cause of death didn't fit the public narrative. You ignored all of that. Just like a zombie.
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"What I'm always willing to do is change my mind when presented with facts."
That u
is beacuase you are not Brainwashed by the MSM
Prime on the other hand is Totally Fucked by his Loony Leftism
& believing all the MSM tells him ::)
I don't like Cops Generally, Only Derek should've been given a medal
& set free for ridding the world of that shit bag Floyd - Fentanyl
killed him.
And the fact is that Derek Chauvin was found guilty of the following charges:
State Convictions (April 2021):
Second-degree murder: Causing the death of another person unintentionally while committing a felony.
Third-degree murder: Causing the death of another person through an act that is dangerous to others and shows a depraved disregard for human life.
Second-degree manslaughter: Causing death through culpable negligence that creates an unreasonable risk of harm.
Federal Guilt (December 2021):
Depriving George Floyd of his rights: Chauvin admitted to willfully depriving Mr. Floyd of his constitutional right to be free from unreasonable force, which resulted in his death.
Failing to provide medical aid: He also pleaded guilty to failing to provide medical assistance to Mr. Floyd.
Violating a minor's rights: Chauvin also pleaded guilty to violating the constitutional rights of a then-14-year-old child during another incident in 2017.
"The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear his state murder conviction appeal in November 2023, effectively upholding it. However, he continues to pursue avenues to overturn his separate federal conviction, including a recent motion filed in November 2023."
Now you have been presented the facts. Although I doubt they will change your mind.
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And the fact is that Derek Chauvin was found guilty of the following charges:
State Convictions (April 2021):
Second-degree murder: Causing the death of another person unintentionally while committing a felony.
Third-degree murder: Causing the death of another person through an act that is dangerous to others and shows a depraved disregard for human life.
Second-degree manslaughter: Causing death through culpable negligence that creates an unreasonable risk of harm.
Federal Guilt (December 2021):
Depriving George Floyd of his rights: Chauvin admitted to willfully depriving Mr. Floyd of his constitutional right to be free from unreasonable force, which resulted in his death.
Failing to provide medical aid: He also pleaded guilty to failing to provide medical assistance to Mr. Floyd.
Violating a minor's rights: Chauvin also pleaded guilty to violating the constitutional rights of a then-14-year-old child during another incident in 2017.
"The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear his state murder conviction appeal in November 2023, effectively upholding it. However, he continues to pursue avenues to overturn his separate federal conviction, including a recent motion filed in November 2023."
Now you have been presented the facts. Although I doubt they will change your mind.
TLDR Boring - Glad the Black Scumbag is dead.
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And the fact is that Derek Chauvin was found guilty of the following charges:
State Convictions (April 2021):
Second-degree murder: Causing the death of another person unintentionally while committing a felony.
Third-degree murder: Causing the death of another person through an act that is dangerous to others and shows a depraved disregard for human life.
Second-degree manslaughter: Causing death through culpable negligence that creates an unreasonable risk of harm.
Federal Guilt (December 2021):
Depriving George Floyd of his rights: Chauvin admitted to willfully depriving Mr. Floyd of his constitutional right to be free from unreasonable force, which resulted in his death.
Failing to provide medical aid: He also pleaded guilty to failing to provide medical assistance to Mr. Floyd.
Violating a minor's rights: Chauvin also pleaded guilty to violating the constitutional rights of a then-14-year-old child during another incident in 2017.
"The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear his state murder conviction appeal in November 2023, effectively upholding it. However, he continues to pursue avenues to overturn his separate federal conviction, including a recent motion filed in November 2023."
Now you have been presented the facts. Although I doubt they will change your mind.
The only facts you presented are the jury's verdict. You skipped over the autopsy report, the ME's comments, the judge's refusal to allow evidence of the training showing the precise restraint technique used by Chauvin, the cherry-picked body cam footage, etc., etc.
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The only facts you presented are the jury's verdict. You skipped over the autopsy report, the ME's comments, the judge's refusal to allow evidence of the training showing the precise restraint technique used by Chauvin, the cherry-picked body cam footage, etc., etc.
Yep - that's what he always does - just ignores all that don't fit in with his agenda
or what his MSM Brainwashed mind has been told.
The judge sounds as if he was corrupt - why on earth would he not allow the
Police training evidence. 🤬
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You realize this stuff is able to be checked correct? blue states help red states. Blue cities have way more economic output. New york, chicago etc..
The economy factually does better under demos.
Is that why you voted for the race baiting faggot that runs your country?
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The only facts you presented are the jury's verdict. You skipped over the autopsy report, the ME's comments, the judge's refusal to allow evidence of the training showing the precise restraint technique used by Chauvin, the cherry-picked body cam footage, etc., etc.
At this point, the only fact that carries any weight is the Jury's verdict. You do realize that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear his state murder conviction appeal in November 2023.
The federal case Violation of George Floyd's Civil Rights: In December 2021, Derek Chauvin pleaded guilty to the civil rights violations, and he admitted to using excessive force against George Floyd, depriving him of his constitutional rights. Derek Chauvin filed a motion in federal court in November 2023 to overturn this conviction. His appeals argument is that he would never have pleaded guilty if he had known of the alternative theory regarding George Floyd's death.
Even if this appeal overturned his federal conviction, it would not reduce the length of his incarceration since he is severing his state and federal sentences concurrently.
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This is a prime example of an act of war. LOL!
Man accused of throwing water bottle at officer outside ICE building in Portland arrested.
A judge ordered the 29-year-old man released from custody on the condition he stay away from the Portland ICE facility.
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Yep - that's what he always does - just ignores all that don't fit in with his agenda
or what his MSM Brainwashed mind has been told.
The judge sounds as if he was corrupt - why on earth would he not allow the
Police training evidence. 🤬
The judge was a former prosecutor who previously worked in the same office that prosecuted Chauvin. The judge was likely doing what the jury did: reach a decision that would not result in more rioting, murder, mayhem, death threats, etc. It's results oriented decision making, where someone reaches the conclusion first then accepts or dismisses evidence to support that conclusion.
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At this point, the only fact that carries any weight is the Jury's verdict. You do realize that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear his state murder conviction appeal in November 2023.
The federal case Violation of George Floyd's Civil Rights: In December 2021, Derek Chauvin pleaded guilty to the civil rights violations, and he admitted to using excessive force against George Floyd, depriving him of his constitutional rights. Derek Chauvin filed a motion in federal court in November 2023 to overturn this conviction. His appeals argument is that he would never have pleaded guilty if he had known of the alternative theory regarding George Floyd's death.
Even if this appeal overturned his federal conviction, it would not reduce the length of his incarceration since he is severing his state and federal sentences concurrently.
Prime I think you're a smart guy. Incredibly uninformed and misinformed, but you're no dummy. What I suspect is that you are using Chat GPT or some other AI to help you with your posts on the board. Not a crime and it doesn't bother me, but I think that explains why you are completely dismissing damning evidence that undercuts your conclusion, and why you rarely cite your sources. It feels like I'm communicating with a bot. This isn't meant to be rude. Just making an observation.
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The judge was a former prosecutor who previously worked in the same office that prosecuted Chauvin. The judge was likely doing what the jury did: reach a decision that would not result in more rioting, murder, mayhem, death threats, etc. It's results oriented decision making, where someone reaches the conclusion first then accepts or dismisses evidence to support that conclusion.
From what I see & read The trial was a cop out a fix , Blame whitey yet again.
The black lowlife thug killed himself & yet they blamed Derek.
No his behavior & attitude during the event that led to Thuglife's death didn't
Look good or help him.
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From what I see & read The trial was a cop out a fix , Blame whitey yet again.
The black lowlife thug killed himself & yet they blamed Derek.
No his behavior & attitude during the event that led to Thuglife's death didn't
Look good or help him.
They played the race card before trial, but not during the trial.
I understand the initial outcry, because like I told Prime, when I first saw the video it looked like Floyd was suffocated to death, while handcuffed on the ground. Even though Floyd was a terrible person, he didn't deserve to die that way.
But when I looked at all of the evidence it became clear that Chauvin did NOT kill Floyd. Total miscarriage of justice IMO. And he's not getting out. Even if Trump pardons or commutes his federal sentence, there is no way that Stolen Valor Tampon Tim or any other Democrat governor is going to pardon or commute the state prison sentence.
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The judge was a former prosecutor who previously worked in the same office that prosecuted Chauvin. The judge was likely doing what the jury did: reach a decision that would not result in more rioting, murder, mayhem, death threats, etc. It's results oriented decision making, where someone reaches the conclusion first then accepts or dismisses evidence to support that conclusion.
Leftist don't want to see the truth that they have bullied the legal system with threats of violence and in turn that sways the decisions in high profile cases to force judges/juries to side with the fit throwers and not necessarily justice.
Prime I think you're a smart guy.
You lost me here brother. ;D
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Prime I think you're a smart guy. Incredibly uninformed and misinformed, but you're no dummy. What I suspect is that you are using Chat GPT or some other AI to help you with your posts on the board. Not a crime and it doesn't bother me, but I think that explains why you are completely dismissing damning evidence that undercuts your conclusion, and why you rarely cite your sources. It feels like I'm communicating with a bot. This isn't meant to be rude. Just making an observation.
(https://preview.redd.it/z9uf48s34cg21.jpg?auto=webp&s=0ef1a74e36364e5d94b8c2906254332b0d345d04)
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Hey I just say what I really think. Pretty sure everyone on here has disagreed with something I've said at some point. lol
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Prime I think you're a smart guy. Incredibly uninformed and misinformed, but you're no dummy. What I suspect is that you are using Chat GPT or some other AI to help you with your posts on the board. Not a crime and it doesn't bother me, but I think that explains why you are completely dismissing damning evidence that undercuts your conclusion, and why you rarely cite your sources. It feels like I'm communicating with a bot. This isn't meant to be rude. Just making an observation.
Feel free to call me Mr. Bot if you like. ;D Being a bot would certainly save me a considerable amount of time I spend researching information prior to responding to posts on Getbig.
I could cite sources all day long but you and others who primarily just echo whatever the right and far right is saying would simply discount my posts because in your opinion they reflected a liberal viewpoint. No big deal, people are biased which is what makes each of us unique and makes for interesting conversations. Absolute and too frequent agreement is far less interesting. Imagine Get Big threads where there are no challenging discussions, just blind unanimity.
BTW, I have never heard about ChatGTP before now. I will check it out because if you thought I was already using it as a resource, it likely aligns my thinking.
I find AI much more detailed and informative than Google is. AI also points to valid resources like language in the U.S. Constitution and legal documents supporting their responses to questions asked. Google is sometimes supported with opinions. I do not put a lot of stock in opinions being factual because they are often incredibly biased, as you well know.
Thanks for the compliment but I am not particularly bright, simply curious about many different subjects.
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The judge sounds as if he was corrupt - why on earth would he not allow the
Police training evidence. 🤬
Judge Peter Cahill did not disallow testimony regarding Chauvin's training regarding knee-to-neck restraint. Quite the contrary. The prosecution employed the testimony of five police officials, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, Lt. Johnny Mercil, Sgt. Ker Yang, Lt. Zimmerman, Officer Nicole Mackenzie, and Dr. Martin Tobin, they testified that Chauvin's restraint of George Floyd was not part of police training and violated department policies.
During Derek Chauvin's trail, Minneapolis Police Lieutenant Johnny Mercil testified that “leg-neck restraints" like the one Chauvin used are not trained techniques in the Minneapolis Police Department. Mercil also testified that a knee on the neck would not be authorized once a suspect is under control and handcuffed, a condition he said applied to George Floyd.
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Feel free to call me Mr. Bot if you like. ;D Being a bot would certainly save me a considerable amount of time I spend researching information prior to responding to posts on Getbig.
I could cite sources all day long but you and others who primarily just echo whatever the right and far right is saying would simply discount my posts because in your opinion they reflected a liberal viewpoint. No big deal, people are biased which is what makes each of us unique and makes for interesting conversations. Absolute and too frequent agreement is far less interesting. Imagine Get Big threads where there are no challenging discussions, just blind unanimity.
BTW, I have never heard about ChatGTP before now. I will check it out because if you thought I was already using it as a resource, it likely aligns my thinking.
I find AI much more detailed and informative than Google is. AI also points to valid resources like language in the U.S. Constitution and legal documents supporting their responses to questions asked. Google is sometimes supported with opinions. I do not put a lot of stock in opinions being factual because they are often incredibly biased, as you well know.
Thanks for the compliment but I am not particularly bright, simply curious about many different subjects.
Your projection is a massive fail. I have no problem reading sources provided by people. Been doing it for the entire time I've been posting on this board. You, however, do not. You first check the author and source, and if it's conservative you either don't read it or don't address the merits of what they say.
ChapGPT is AI, so if you "find AI much more detailed and informative than Google," then you are obviously using some form of AI. Which is exactly what I said. :)
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Judge Peter Cahill did not disallow testimony regarding Chauvin's training regarding knee-to-neck restraint. Quite the contrary. The prosecution employed the testimony of five police officials, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, Lt. Johnny Mercil, Sgt. Ker Yang, Lt. Zimmerman, Officer Nicole Mackenzie, and Dr. Martin Tobin, they testified that Chauvin's restraint of George Floyd was not part of police training and violated department policies.
During Derek Chauvin's trail, Minneapolis Police Lieutenant Johnny Mercil testified that “leg-neck restraints" like the one Chauvin used are not trained techniques in the Minneapolis Police Department. Mercil also testified that a knee on the neck would not be authorized once a suspect is under control and handcuffed, a condition he said applied to George Floyd.
The judge disallowed this power point slide from the officers' training:
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Look familiar?
And the officers lied about whether the MRT was an approved technique. I doubt you watch it, but for anyone else interested, the Fall of Minneapolis has interviews with multiple officers who confirmed MRT was an approved technique and that the officers who testified were lying.
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The judge disallowed this power point slide from the officers' training:
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Look familiar?
And the officers lied about whether the MRT was an approved technique. I doubt you watch it, but for anyone else interested, the Fall of Minneapolis has interviews with multiple officers who confirmed MRT was an approved technique and that the officers who testified were lying.
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Yet again Prime does his usual & deliberately avoids posting or
mentioning what you did - No doubt he was very aware of it while
he was Googling away / searching the internet only it didnt fit in
with his warped narrative / agenda ::)
Why or how does someone become so Twisted ??
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Portland is still a violence infested, leftist shithole.
In case anyone was wondering.
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Yet again Prime does his usual & deliberately avoids posting or
mentioning what you did - No doubt he was very aware of it while
he was Googling away / searching the internet only it didnt fit in
with his warped narrative / agenda ::)
Why or how does someone become so Twisted ??
Unlike you, I have a life beyond posting on Getbig. The last time I posted anything yesterday was at 04:55:57PM - See below.
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Your projection is a massive fail. I have no problem reading sources provided by people. Been doing it for the entire time I've been posting on this board. You, however, do not. You first check the author and source, and if it's conservative you either don't read it or don't address the merits of what they say.
ChapGPT is AI, so if you "find AI much more detailed and informative than Google," then you are obviously using some form of AI. Which is exactly what I said. :)
What projection?
LOL! Nowhere did I suggest you do not read sources so why did you think you needed say that you do? Your assumption that I do not read sources provided by folks is dead wrong. I did not suggest that you do not read sources so why did you think you needed say that you do?
Right, you said I use AI and I confirmed that I do. Did you expect 'Brownie points' because you mentioned it first?
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What projection?
LOL! Nowhere did I suggest you do not read sources so why did you think you needed say that you do? Your assumption that I do not read sources provided by folks is dead wrong. I did not suggest that you do not read sources so why did you think you needed say that you do?
Right, you said I use AI and I confirmed that I do. Did you expect 'Brownie points' because you mentioned it first?
How are you holding up being bunkered down? ;D
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How are you holding up being bunkered down? ;D
I feel like a total shut in! But, somehow I think I will manage to get through this. ;D
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Oh look, Prime is right !! :o
PORTLAND, OR — What began as a tense standoff outside Portland’s ICE building took an unexpected turn Saturday when Antifa activists and federal troops dropped their shields, rolled out a pair of Weber grills, and transformed the protest zone into a full-blown block party.
Witnesses say the mood shifted when a soldier in full riot gear asked if anyone had extra propane. Within minutes, both sides were contributing—Antifa supplied veggie dogs and kombucha mixers, while the troops brought a 200-pound surplus of MRE chili mac and a Humvee sound system.
The event, quickly dubbed “Ceasefire & Grill 2025,” featured live music by underground DJ Molotov, who kept the crowd moving with a set that mixed Rage Against the Machine with Toby Keith.
“This is what democracy looks like,” shouted one black-clad protester while dancing on a police barricade now repurposed as a stage. “Sure, they pepper-sprayed us earlier, but their brisket recipe slaps.”
Not everyone was convinced. Some Portlanders grumbled that the sudden peace festival lacked proper permits, while others complained the event “felt more like Coachella for people who hate each other.”
Still, morale was high as troops and activists joined together for sack races, face-painting, and a three-legged march formation drill.
When asked if the détente would last, one soldier responded, “Hard to say. But as long as the keg holds out, we’re committed to de-escalation.”
At press time, both sides had united in booing the DJ after he announced his encore: Nickelback’s Photograph.
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Oh look, Prime is right !! :o
PORTLAND, OR — What began as a tense standoff outside Portland’s ICE building took an unexpected turn Saturday when Antifa activists and federal troops dropped their shields, rolled out a pair of Weber grills, and transformed the protest zone into a full-blown block party.
Witnesses say the mood shifted when a soldier in full riot gear asked if anyone had extra propane. Within minutes, both sides were contributing—Antifa supplied veggie dogs and kombucha mixers, while the troops brought a 200-pound surplus of MRE chili mac and a Humvee sound system.
The event, quickly dubbed “Ceasefire & Grill 2025,” featured live music by underground DJ Molotov, who kept the crowd moving with a set that mixed Rage Against the Machine with Toby Keith.
“This is what democracy looks like,” shouted one black-clad protester while dancing on a police barricade now repurposed as a stage. “Sure, they pepper-sprayed us earlier, but their brisket recipe slaps.”
Not everyone was convinced. Some Portlanders grumbled that the sudden peace festival lacked proper permits, while others complained the event “felt more like Coachella for people who hate each other.”
Still, morale was high as troops and activists joined together for sack races, face-painting, and a three-legged march formation drill.
When asked if the détente would last, one soldier responded, “Hard to say. But as long as the keg holds out, we’re committed to de-escalation.”
At press time, both sides had united in booing the DJ after he announced his encore: Nickelback’s Photograph.
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If only this were true.
Today, I read a post on the social media newsfeed 'Nextdoor' suggesting various chores the National Guard could do that would most benefit Portland. Some of the suggestions included were repairing potholes in the streets, assisting with leaf cleanup, cleaning out abandoned homeless camps, removing graffiti, not all of which pertains to current politics.
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What projection?
LOL! Nowhere did I suggest you do not read sources so why did you think you needed say that you do? Your assumption that I do not read sources provided by folks is dead wrong. I did not suggest that you do not read sources so why did you think you needed say that you do?
Right, you said I use AI and I confirmed that I do. Did you expect 'Brownie points' because you mentioned it first?
If you're going to use AI, you should at least read what you're posting. Right here:
I could cite sources all day long but you and others who primarily just echo whatever the right and far right is saying would simply discount my posts because in your opinion they reflected a liberal viewpoint.
Also, the first real clue that you were using AI was when you cited the percentage of college graduates in the U.S., using a very precise number, which was ridiculously wrong, and then you could not remember where you got the number from. That was likely a hallucinated number by AI. Sometimes AI literally makes stuff up (called hallucination). So be careful when using it.
And no I don't need any points for recognizing your AI. I guess it's better than your plagiarism? ;D
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Yet again Prime does his usual & deliberately avoids posting or
mentioning what you did - No doubt he was very aware of it while
he was Googling away / searching the internet only it didnt fit in
with his warped narrative / agenda ::)
Why or how does someone become so Twisted ??
Oh he definitely ignores things that conflict with his world view. Classic confirmation bias.
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If only this were true.
Today, I read a post on the social media newsfeed 'Nextdoor' suggesting various chores the National Guard could do that would most benefit Portland. Some of the suggestions included were repairing potholes in the streets, assisting with leaf cleanup, cleaning out abandoned homeless camps, removing graffiti, not all of which pertains to current politics.
Did AI tell you about the residents that are harassed, intimidated, assaulted and abused in their own neighborhood? Would you enjoy driving into your lily white gated community every day to be greeted by people screaming at you? Pounding on your car, trying to get in? Playing loud music, bullhorns and other noises all night? Maybe you think it's ok to jump people and beat them up when they just want some peace and quiet in their home?
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Did AI tell you about the residents that are harassed, intimidated, assaulted and abused in their own neighborhood? Would you enjoy driving into your lily white gated community every day to be greeted by people screaming at you? Pounding on your car, trying to get in? Playing loud music, bullhorns and other noises all night? Maybe you think it's ok to jump people and beat them up when they just want some peace and quiet in their home?
What does AI or any of the rest of the above nonsense you wrote have to do with my post about comments I read on the social media platform Neighborhood? Lately, your responses to my posts have been 'out in left field' which is more than a little odd.
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What does AI or any of the rest of the above nonsense you wrote have to do with my post about comments I read on the social media platform Neighborhood? Lately, your responses to my posts have been 'out in left field' which is more than a little odd.
Asking about left wing violence in Portland in a thread about left wing violence in Portland is 'out in left field' ???
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If only this were true.
Today, I read a post on the social media newsfeed 'Nextdoor' suggesting various chores the National Guard could do that would most benefit Portland. Some of the suggestions included were repairing potholes in the streets, assisting with leaf cleanup, cleaning out abandoned homeless camps, removing graffiti, not all of which pertains to current politics.
Cleaning up…a perfect job for you and your experience as a janitor.
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Kristi Noem visits ICE headquarters in "WAR RAVEGED" Portland and checks out 'tens of protesters' including a chicken from the roof. LOL!
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Federal helicopters circling Portland ICE facility draw noise complaints from South Waterfront neighbors
By Mikhala Armstrong
Published: Oct. 10, 2025
https://www.kptv.com/2025/10/11/federal-helicopters-circling-portland-ice-facility-draw-noise-complaints-south-waterfront-neighbors
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Video of ICE headquarters on 10/11/2025
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Costumed protesters in Portland defy description of the city as a 'war zone'
Dancing frogs, peacocks and unicorns outside the federal immigration building present a joyful contrast to the Trump administration's portrait of the Oregon city, they say.
Oct. 11, 2025, 5:00 AM PDT
By Alicia Victoria Lozano
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Federal helicopters circling Portland ICE facility draw noise complaints from South Waterfront neighbors
By Mikhala Armstrong
Published: Oct. 10, 2025
https://www.kptv.com/2025/10/11/federal-helicopters-circling-portland-ice-facility-draw-noise-complaints-south-waterfront-neighbors
Crazy they aren't talking about the months of complaints from the residents about the protests and assaults. It's almost like they have an agenda. ::)
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Crazy they aren't talking about the months of complaints from the residents about the protests and assaults. It's almost like they have an agenda. ::)
What "we" are talking about is what is going on currently. Right now, Trump has deployed National Guard troops to Portland which he says is "war ravaged" and "burning to the ground" neither of which is true. Not now nor has it been true with regards to protests at Portland ICE headquarters.
Why is ICE located in a mixed use mostly residential neighborhood? The Cottonwood School, a public charter school was previously situated right next to the ICE facility. They recently moved because of safety issues, including tear gas and other munitions being used in the vicinity and chemicals seeping into the playground area. The Portland city council should cancel or not renew ICE's lease on that property. The proximity to residential areas has been a major point of contention and a focus of protests, with neighbors expressing concerns about safety and the use of chemical munitions by federal agents during demonstrations.
The City of Portland has issued violation notices and considered revoking the facility's land use permit due to alleged breaches of the conditions, specifically regarding the duration of detentions. Land Use Violation: In September 2025, the City of Portland issued a notice of violation, alleging that ICE has repeatedly violated the conditions of its 2011 land use permit by holding detainees for more than the permitted 12 hours or overnight.
The problem is ICE and other Federal police. Yesterday about 200 people spent hours protesting, dancing and yelling outside the ICE field office before federal officers blasted the crowd with stun grenades and chemicals including tear gas, smoke and pepper balls and pointed green lasers from the building’s lower roof. “You’re making it a war zone,” a protester shouted at ICE police as people ran for cover.
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The judge disallowed this power point slide from the officers' training:
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Look familiar?
And the officers lied about whether the MRT was an approved technique. I doubt you watch it, but for anyone else interested, the Fall of Minneapolis has interviews with multiple officers who confirmed MRT was an approved technique and that the officers who testified were lying.
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Anybody from the other side refute this?
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What "we" are talking about is what is going on currently.
If that was true, then "we" would be talking about the local residents complaints of noise, vandalism, assaults, litter, etc. Instead you want to whine like a teenage girl on her first period about the feds enforcing the immigration laws. ::)
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If that was true, then "we" would be talking about the local residents complaints of noise, vandalism, assaults, litter, etc. Instead you want to whine like a teenage girl on her first period about the feds enforcing the immigration laws. ::)
He lives in an affluent and crime-free suburb that is almost 90% white. Typical NIMBY liberal.
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He lives in an affluent and crime-free suburb that is almost 90% white. Typical NIMBY liberal.
Yep his in his Loony Leftist Bubble & dares not venture out , as he knows full well
A very Sharp Reality check would hit him.
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Crazy they aren't talking about the months of complaints from the residents about the protests and assaults. It's almost like they have an agenda. ::)
Hey dumb dumb, a bush appointed judge ruled trumps deployment was untethered from the facts of the case. There is no fucking war occurring and no need for constitutional over stepping, but you being a beta male love a strong alpha to lead you.
This whole thing is retarded which is in line for anything trump does.
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https://dailyboulder.com/trumps-fantasy-of-violent-blue-cities-collapses-in-court-judges-find-no-carnage-no-rebellion-no-warzone/
Whatever trump is describing, it isn't reality they said lololol
Sums up the right wingers perfectly. Even though it was retarded from the jump, with trump saying " is what is happening different from what I am seeing on TV" lmao the goobers here defended it, tried to act like it was justified. They cant wait to take rights away from people who they disagree with all while deriding cancel culture. This is nearly as bad as the woke mob. Retards swept up by illogical emotions.
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He lives in an affluent and crime-free suburb that is almost 90% white. Typical NIMBY liberal.
Are you jealous? Are you upset that you probably would not be welcome in my backyard? Do you live in a low-income and crime ridden urban part of a city which is racially diverse? Poor fellow.
The affluent, crime-free suburb of West Linn where I live is 9.4 miles from the Portland ICE facility which is located in the South Waterfront area where the price of condos can range widely, with one-bedroom units selling from around $325,000 to $450,000, and two-bedroom units selling from $540,000 to over $1 million for high-end penthouses. So maybe it is not quite as affluent as West Linn, not exactly a slum. West Linn residents are evenly split between politically liberal and conservative folks.
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If that was true, then "we" would be talking about the local residents complaints of noise, vandalism, assaults, litter, etc. Instead you want to whine like a teenage girl on her first period about the feds enforcing the immigration laws. ::)
When talking about local residents complaints about these annoyances remember some of them have been instigated by the presence of federal officers from agencies like ICE, CBP, and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and possibly in the near future the National Guard. "It takes two to tango."
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Hey dumb dumb, a bush appointed judge ruled trumps deployment was untethered from the facts of the case. There is no fucking war occurring and no need for constitutional over stepping, but you being a beta male love a strong alpha to lead you.
This whole thing is retarded which is in line for anything trump does.
Sure are alot of arrests being made for a "peaceful protest" ::)
I can't believe people are fighting to keep illegals in their state, don't they know how much it's costing them? Without illegals Oregon citizens could have hundreds of millions of dollars in excess to fund their other hobbies, like getting high and sitting in the rain throwing change at homeless people. :D
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/oregon-now-spends-more-on-program-offering-free-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants-than-state-police/ar-AA1OnhVi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=68ed7f41839d40e6ad8ef2a735e92d01&ei=13
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Sure are alot of arrests being made for a "peaceful protest" ::)
I can't believe people are fighting to keep illegals in their state, don't they know how much it's costing them? Without illegals Oregon citizens could have hundreds of millions of dollars in excess to fund their other hobbies, like getting high and sitting in the rain throwing change at homeless people. :D
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/oregon-now-spends-more-on-program-offering-free-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants-than-state-police/ar-AA1OnhVi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=68ed7f41839d40e6ad8ef2a735e92d01&ei=13
Ok bro, definitely need the military there! You are unhinged. You like having your rights taken away over nonsense. Two right leaning judges have said its retarded, because it is. There is nothing going on that requires any degree of measure approaching this shit.
Red states are welfare states, maybe they could give some money to those hobos?
ITS WAR RAVAGED!!
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Ok bro, definitely need the military there! You are unhinged. You like having your rights taken away over nonsense. Two right leaning judges have said its retarded, because it is. There is nothing going on that requires any degree of measure approaching this shit.
Red states are welfare states, maybe they could give some money to those hobos?
ITS WAR RAVAGED!!
My rights? I'm an American citizen, I have lost ZERO rights, except the ones the faggot liberal running CA has taken away from me. Wonder why liberals hate the Constitution so much? Guess it doesn't really mean much to you since you are a snow mexican and voted for your country to be dominated and controlled at every step. Keep voting liberal, bootlicker.
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Sure are alot of arrests being made for a "peaceful protest" ::)
I can't believe people are fighting to keep illegals in their state, don't they know how much it's costing them? Without illegals Oregon citizens could have hundreds of millions of dollars in excess to fund their other hobbies, like getting high and sitting in the rain throwing change at homeless people. :D
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/oregon-now-spends-more-on-program-offering-free-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants-than-state-police/ar-AA1OnhVi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=68ed7f41839d40e6ad8ef2a735e92d01&ei=13
Are you aware of federal law regarding medical treatment? Who do you suppose pays for these folks medical care? Hospitals recover losses by shifting costs to other payers, and government funding. So, Oregon citizens would not have hundreds of millions of dollars to fund various hobbies.
Federal law, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA), mandates that hospitals with emergency departments must provide a medical screening examination to anyone who comes in seeking treatment for an emergency medical condition.
Stabilization: If an emergency medical condition is found, the hospital must provide treatment to stabilize the patient, regardless of their immigration status or insurance coverage.
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Are you aware of federal law regarding medical treatment? Who do you suppose pays for these folks medical care? Hospitals recover losses by shifting costs to other payers, and government funding. So, Oregon citizens would not have hundreds of millions of dollars to fund various hobbies.
Federal law, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA), mandates that hospitals with emergency departments must provide a medical screening examination to anyone who comes in seeking treatment for an emergency medical condition.
Stabilization: If an emergency medical condition is found, the hospital must provide treatment to stabilize the patient, regardless of their immigration status or insurance coverage.
Glad to see you didn't read the article and just responded with some liberal copy/paste bullshit.
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My rights? I'm an American citizen, I have lost ZERO rights, except the ones the faggot liberal running CA has taken away from me. Wonder why liberals hate the Constitution so much? Guess it doesn't really mean much to you since you are a snow mexican and voted for your country to be dominated and controlled at every step. Keep voting liberal, bootlicker.
weird thing to say
again there is no war in portland, there is nothing out of the ordinary. Red necks are too dumb to organize and there are no homeless people in the woods.
You have an extremely basic worldview
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Ok bro, definitely need the military there! You are unhinged. You like having your rights taken away over nonsense. Two right leaning judges have said its retarded, because it is. There is nothing going on that requires any degree of measure approaching this shit.
Red states are welfare states, maybe they could give some money to those hobos?
ITS WAR RAVAGED!!
My rights? I'm an American citizen, I have lost ZERO rights, except the ones the faggot liberal running CA has taken away from me. Wonder why liberals hate the Constitution so much? Guess it doesn't really mean much to you since you are a snow mexican and voted for your country to be dominated and controlled at every step. Keep voting liberal, bootlicker.
weird thing to say
again there is no war in portland, there is nothing out of the ordinary. Red necks are too dumb to organize and there are no homeless people in the woods.
You have an extremely basic worldview
High again ???
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https://x.com/thepatriotoasis/status/1978131515817984189?s=46
Oregon has budgeted $1.5 BILLION for illegal alien Healthcare programs for 2025-2027
While ONLY allocating $717 MILLION on the State Police Department.
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High again ???
lol
I am not sure you are understanding, although my post was definitely ambiguous. I was saying that its weird to say you have no rights
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Glad to see you didn't read the article and just responded with some liberal copy/paste bullshit.
I read the article. Why would anyone not copy and paste the text of a federal law unless they intended to rewrite it? How interesting that you think a federal law is "bullshit." What is most interesting is that you missed the point entirely, which is that we pay for these folks’ emergency medical care no matter what, whether it is because of federal law or Medicaid.
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https://x.com/thepatriotoasis/status/1978131515817984189?s=46
Oregon has budgeted $1.5 BILLION for illegal alien Healthcare programs for 2025-2027
While ONLY allocating $717 MILLION on the State Police Department.
Someone already posted this. You are too late to the table.
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Someone already posted this. You are too late to the table.
It needs posting often just to show how Fucking Stupid Portland
leadership is.
I'm presuming you're okay with that vast amount being spent
on illegals. ?
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lol
I am not sure you are understanding, although my post was definitely ambiguous. I was saying that its weird to say you have no rights
You're the one that said I like having my rights taken away. WTF, dude put down the pipe and focus.
I read the article. Why would anyone not copy and paste the text of a federal law unless they intended to rewrite it? How interesting that you think a federal law is "bullshit." What is most interesting is that you missed the point entirely, which is that we pay for these folks’ emergency medical care no matter what, whether it is because of federal law or Medicaid.
Obviously you didn't understand what you read, go back and read it again and again and again. Maybe have one of the grandkids explain it to you?
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Obviously you didn't understand what you read, go back and read it again and again and again. Maybe have one of the grandkids explain it to you?
Here is a little something for you to read that might help you understand that undocumented aliens still qualify for emergency medical care, this costs the federal government/taxpayers billions of dollars in reimbursements to hospitals and in some cases emergency room doctors.
The next time you go to the ER and wait for hours to be seen because the waiting room is full of what appears to be low income folks who likely have no health insurance and undocumented aliens who have no health insurance, do not bother to complain.
https://www.nilc.org/resources/fact-checking-immigrants-health-care-and-the-2025-tax-and-budget-law
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Here is a little something for you to read that might help you understand that undocumented aliens still qualify for emergency medical care, this costs the federal government/taxpayers billions of dollars in reimbursements to hospitals and in some cases emergency room doctors.
The next time you go to the ER and wait for hours to be seen because the waiting room is full of what appears to be low income folks who likely have no health insurance and undocumented aliens who have no health insurance, do not bother to complain.
https://www.nilc.org/resources/fact-checking-immigrants-health-care-and-the-2025-tax-and-budget-law
Clearly your reading comprehension is on the decline. I will refrain from mocking you for now.
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Clearly your reading comprehension is on the decline. I will refrain from mocking you for now.
Thank you.
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Anybody from the other side refute this?
Of course not.
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Shit hole
https://x.com/mtnmama406/status/1978186934431486246?s=46
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Shit hole
https://x.com/mtnmama406/status/1978186934431486246?s=46
Its burning to the ground!!! send in the military!!
Let those illegals die in the streets. No doctor is going to refuse a sick person health care. They are not entitled to medicare, medicaid etc or insurance, they are entitled to emergency care as doctors take a hippocratic oath.
Very jesus person of you! of course they should not be there in the first place, thats reasonable and the truth, however, where is your humanity? where is the christian spirit?
didnt he say something like whatever you do for the least of us truly you do to me? it appears jesus is trying to tell you that you are everyone all at once but can only experience this one at a time and that being a girl to someone is being a girl to yourself.
I realize you are hypocrite, like Nietzche said "the last christian died on the cross"
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Here is a little something for you to read that might help you understand that undocumented aliens still qualify for emergency medical care, this costs the federal government/taxpayers billions of dollars in reimbursements to hospitals and in some cases emergency room doctors.
The next time you go to the ER and wait for hours to be seen because the waiting room is full of what appears to be low income folks who likely have no health insurance and undocumented aliens who have no health insurance, do not bother to complain.
https://www.nilc.org/resources/fact-checking-immigrants-health-care-and-the-2025-tax-and-budget-law
Bollocks to the illegals they shouldn't get anything - give them Fuck
all & they'll stop coming in & a lot/most will Fuck off.
Stop being so Stupid & liberal. FFS
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you cant say C UN T on here?
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you cant say C UN T on here?
You can't say cunt, I can.
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You can't say cunt, I can.
Ha ha ha 🤣 Good man 👍🏻
He really is a very strange & deranged pathetic little man? Hmmm is it a man or an it
With its love of Pronouns.
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girl test
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girl test
Cunt
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Cunt
Always keep in mind who you’re responding to
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Always keep in mind who you’re responding to
A cunt?
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A cunt?
Oh yes a Very Stupid & Idiotic one. 👍🏻 😊
Yet just like prime does he also thinks he is so much smarter & more intelligent
Than everyone else on here. ::)
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https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1980750509360443847?s=46
Portland Police aren’t just shielding Antifa—they’re actively WORKING AGAINST DHS agents
I caught them multiple times taking videos from leftist “protestors” to launch investigations into DHS agents who use pepper spray on rioters
PULL FEDERAL FUNDS FROM PORTLAND!
While Portland Police allow Antifa terrorists who attempt to blind DHS agents to hide behind them, they’re also trying to undermine DHS’ ability to defend themselves.
I’m not sure this police department is even salvageable at this point.
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https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1980750509360443847?s=46
Portland Police aren’t just shielding Antifa—they’re actively WORKING AGAINST DHS agents
I caught them multiple times taking videos from leftist “protestors” to launch investigations into DHS agents who use pepper spray on rioters
PULL FEDERAL FUNDS FROM PORTLAND!
While Portland Police allow Antifa terrorists who attempt to blind DHS agents to hide behind them, they’re also trying to undermine DHS’ ability to defend themselves.
I’m not sure this police department is even salvageable at this point.
Nick Sortor would do well to stay home in D.C. Portland is not his playground.
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You can't say cunt, I can.
😂
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Nick Sortor would do well to stay home in D.C. Portland is not his playground.
Forget the NG, they need to send in the Marines along with the NG to clean that shithole up of Antifa vermin
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Inside a Portland Antifa safe house protected by Portland PD
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1980821368460693872?s=46
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Coach having a fucking media induced meltdown lol.
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Coach having a fucking media induced meltdown lol.
Just underscoring what your people do
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Just underscoring what your people do
I am a moderate you clown.
You are so polarized its insufferable. The right can do no wrong and all the ills of society are the left, its childish.
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I am a moderate you clown.
You are so polarized its insufferable. The right can do no wrong and all the ills of society are the left, its childish.
You're not a moderate
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You're not a moderate
Oh ya how am I not?
lol
because I don;t like trump as I think he is a horrible human? most of the right thought he was as well until he gained power. He simply is. I hold many right leaning views. It's funny on reddit when I would post they said you are not moderate but right leaning and you are saying the opposite.
I don't think you know my positions on most things.
I simply dislike trump because of what he is.
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Oh ya how am I not?
lol
because I don;t like trump as I think he is a horrible human? most of the right thought he was as well until he gained power. He simply is. I hold many right leaning views. It's funny on reddit when I would post they said you are not moderate but right leaning and you are saying the opposite.
I don't think you know my positions on most things.
I simply dislike trump because of what he is.
About the only "moderate" thing I've seen you post is that you don't support sexual mutilation of minors, puberty blockers, or men invading women's sports. Anything else?
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About the only "moderate" thing I've seen you post is that you don't support sexual mutilation of minors, puberty blockers, or men invading women's sports. Anything else?
I am for smaller government
I am for free speech
I am for fiscal responsibility- although thats a misnomer
I am for free market economy, but what we have is crony capitalism with socialism for the rich. Look at the GME stock situation, they turned off the buy button when they were "losing", I doubt we ever truly had a free market but the ideology resonates with me
I am pro abortion
I have many traditional views but believe progress is inevitable,evolution occurs gradually or via punctuated equilibria and it happens with everything.
I think there are men and women and I support gay right, trans etc.
I would suggest I am more libertarian.
I am big on personal responsibility and am a staunch nietzchean. However, I recognize that I have a duty to others that may be less fortunate or less capable and believe that human dignity and reduction of suffering need to be our guiding principles.
I simply don't like trump. I think he is quite dumb and intensely uniformed on most things he talks about, he strikes me as someone who doesn't read and is not meticulous or data driven. I think he is manipulative and shows traits of the dark triad. He is money hungry and power driven, also things I do not value all that highly.
You see I think trump bullshits nearly constantly, so while I would be for sending the national guard to portland if it was indeed a warzone I know its not and its ridiculous. I would side with the supreme court and say he is untethered from reality for instance. I believe his motives are nefarious and or just plain incompetence. So while there are things I agree with him in principle, I believe he is lying most often and his motivations ulterior.
A leader I could admire would be marcus aureulius.
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I am for smaller government
I am for free speech
I am for fiscal responsibility- although thats a misnomer
I am for free market economy, but what we have is crony capitalism with socialism for the rich. Look at the GME stock situation, they turned off the buy button when they were "losing", I doubt we ever truly had a free market but the ideology resonates with me
I am pro abortion
I have many traditional views but believe progress is inevitable,evolution occurs gradually or via punctuated equilibria and it happens with everything.
I think there are men and women and I support gay right, trans etc.
I would suggest I am more libertarian.
I am big on personal responsibility and am a staunch nietzchean. However, I recognize that I have a duty to others that may be less fortunate or less capable and believe that human dignity and reduction of suffering need to be our guiding principles.
I simply don't like trump. I think he is quite dumb and intensely uniformed on most things he talks about, he strikes me as someone who doesn't read and is not meticulous or data driven. I think he is manipulative and shows traits of the dark triad. He is money hungry and power driven, also things I do not value all that highly.
You see I think trump bullshits nearly constantly, so while I would be for sending the national guard to portland if it was indeed a warzone I know its not and its ridiculous. I would side with the supreme court and say he is untethered from reality for instance. I believe his motives are nefarious and or just plain incompetence. So while there are things I agree with him in principle, I believe he is lying most often and his motivations ulterior.
A leader I could admire would be marcus aureulius.
This actually sounds pretty mainstream, except for the TDS.
One question: who is "we"? Don't you live in Canada?
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This actually sounds pretty mainstream, except for the TDS.
One question: who is "we"? Don't you live in Canada?
I am canadian, yup.
Long day am I am going crossed eyed from fatigue here, I don't see where I wrote we or what you are referencing.
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I am canadian, yup.
Long day am I am going crossed eyed from fatigue here, I don't see where I wrote we or what you are referencing.
This part:
I am for free market economy, but what we have is crony capitalism with socialism for the rich. Look at the GME stock situation, they turned off the buy button when they were "losing", I doubt we ever truly had a free market but the ideology resonates with me
Is "we" referring to Canada or the U.S.?
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This part:
Is "we" referring to Canada or the U.S.?
I was referencing the markets which we all have access to, the us market is where most of my money is but I have some international and a bunch canadian.
The US market is where its at though.
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I am a moderate you clown.
LMFAO!!! A moderate.... ;D ;D