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Title: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 22, 2025, 02:11:50 PM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 22, 2025, 02:56:03 PM
All I got is that I've tried 20-30 gram single doses of creatine. The influencers say megadoses of it can help mental performance after not getting much sleep. Some Novorapid insulin to help dispose of it in the muscles LOL. Only did a few times so can't evaluate yet. I did read Milos had his athletes use 80 or 100 grams of it a day LOL. I never considered higher doses, though I remember Poliquin saying 40 grams a day and 20 grams on maintenance mode LOL, and this was when it was just introduced to the market.

I did see some peptide company selling lyophilized phosphocreatine to be used before workouts but the dose was in the milligrams. I just remembered that the Bulgarian company that made Tribestan had a product called Energix and I remember it was a vial and the cap held phosphocreatine powder to be dumped in the solution before drinking it.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 22, 2025, 03:05:18 PM
van b ask the MD of American Victor peptides for some freebies!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Krankenstein on November 22, 2025, 03:55:26 PM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat

I am impressed you could even watch a minute amount of them.  Nothing about "dieting" for a show even remotely interests me anymore.  For me, just being more fit is a better reward
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on November 22, 2025, 04:08:12 PM
Swifty,
Now you train for health and to maintain physical capacity as you age.
Don't let yourself go to pot.
Muscle lost at older ages is very difficult to regain.
Don't make me have Bhanky come over to England and kick your ass for not taking care of yourself.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 22, 2025, 04:19:11 PM
Swifty,
Now you train for health and to maintain physical capacity as you age.
Don't let yourself go to pot.
Muscle lost at older ages is very difficult to regain.
Don't make me have Bhanky come over to England and kick your ass for not taking care of yourself.

and what pray tell does an older man need big muscles for?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on November 22, 2025, 04:22:08 PM
and what pray tell does an older man need big muscles for?

You need strong muscles so you don't fall down and break your hip.
Alright, that's it...I'm sending Hankins over there.
You were warned!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: webstar on November 22, 2025, 08:04:31 PM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat



Sacrifices without regrets

Pathetic

It’s a mental illness
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 23, 2025, 01:30:56 AM
One study said grip strength and longevity are related.

And the breaking the hip thing is relevant.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: wes on November 23, 2025, 01:44:54 AM
I was one of those assholes that would bring Tupperware to Christmas and birthday parties and such.......looking back I feel pretty fucking dumb........dumber than I normally am.  :(
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on November 23, 2025, 02:23:23 AM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat


It's like that with all such "communities" of people who think their behaviour is completely normal. Yet to the outside world that has some common sense the fitness / bodybuilding community is bizarre, unhealthy and ridiculous.
All the fitness lifestyle fitgirls and gymdudes take everything way too seriously.
The fitness centre is a means, not a goal in itself. People who hang out there for hours per day really have no clue what they are doing.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Donny on November 23, 2025, 02:23:51 AM
and what pray tell does an older man need big muscles for?

to stop some young punk beating your ass  ;D but why donīt you try a martial art? not something acrobatic but say Ving Tsun or Kali/Escrima
you can still train at a late age & stay pretty active
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: MuscleBuff on November 23, 2025, 02:26:53 AM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat

A lot of it seems like a mix of attention seeking, "virtue" signaling, coping, and good old plain stupidity
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 23, 2025, 04:17:07 AM
to stop some young punk beating your ass  ;D but why donīt you try a martial art? not something acrobatic but say Ving Tsun or Kali/Escrima
you can still train at a late age & stay pretty active

most old men think they can handle themselves, you see them squaring up top 20 year olds like John L Sullivan thinking they are as fit and fast as they were in their teens

Easier to get one of these and wrap it arounds someones fucking head
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Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 23, 2025, 04:19:54 AM
A lot of it seems like a mix of attention seeking, "virtue" signaling, coping, and good old plain stupidity

Not one of them will admit that the drugs are over 80% of bodybuilding success

You can eat a shitty diet and flop through routines and still look great as long as the drugs are in

Most young guys who trained in the gyms in the 90s used to just cycle gear through the summer months for the dance festivals and holidays.
None of them ate well or trained hard but they all looked great
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Donny on November 23, 2025, 04:25:20 AM
most old men think they can handle themselves, you see them squaring up top 20 year olds like John L Sullivan thinking they are as fit and fast as they were in their teens

Easier to get one of these and wrap it arounds someones fucking head
(https://www.walkingsticks.co.uk/user/products/large/WSDC-NIKB-32-2025-1-web.jpg)
i wrote about this before on the martial arts section..however trust me, Kali, Escrima is very effective
Cane fighting was developed years ago

Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 23, 2025, 04:57:40 AM
I was one of those assholes that would bring Tupperware to Christmas and birthday parties and such.......looking back I feel pretty fucking dumb........dumber than I normally am.  :(


The first step is realizing you were a tool and owning it. Growth, even at your old age is possible!😂
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 23, 2025, 04:58:21 AM
i wrote about this before on the martial arts section..however trust me, Kali, Escrima is very effective
Cane fighting was developed years ago



I can still whirl the nunchucks , still got a set in the garage, cant carry those about with me though
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Krankenstein on November 23, 2025, 05:12:25 AM
Not one of them will admit that the drugs are over 80% of bodybuilding success

You can eat a shitty diet and flop through routines and still look great as long as the drugs are in

Most young guys who trained in the gyms in the 90s used to just cycle gear through the summer months for the dance festivals and holidays.
None of them ate well or trained hard but they all looked great

Buddy of mine from Boston said that same thing about summer.  They wanted nothing to do with being on stage.  They loved going to the beach and eating ice cream looking great.  They did train hard though.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Donny on November 23, 2025, 05:14:56 AM
I can still whirl the nunchucks , still got a set in the garage, cant carry those about with me though

Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Krankenstein on November 23, 2025, 05:17:46 AM
I was one of those assholes that would bring Tupperware to Christmas and birthday parties and such.......looking back I feel pretty fucking dumb........dumber than I normally am.  :(

We've all been there.  I missed out on ONE Thanksgiving.  Swore I would never do it again. 

BTW, did any of the Three Wise men ask you what you had in your tupperwear container?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 23, 2025, 05:22:39 AM


 ;D
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on November 23, 2025, 05:28:44 AM
I was one of those assholes that would bring Tupperware to Christmas and birthday parties and such.......looking back I feel pretty fucking dumb........dumber than I normally am.  :(

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Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2025, 05:50:17 AM
I don't search out videos on places like YT (that have long formats), but I still have some to pop up on my Reels feature of FB.  I generally scroll right past them unless it is Jay, Dorian, and on occasion Priest.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on November 23, 2025, 06:00:51 AM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat

You'll be out when we say you're out.

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Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: MuscleBuff on November 23, 2025, 06:03:01 AM
Not one of them will admit that the drugs are over 80% of bodybuilding success

You can eat a shitty diet and flop through routines and still look great as long as the drugs are in

Most young guys who trained in the gyms in the 90s used to just cycle gear through the summer months for the dance festivals and holidays.
None of them ate well or trained hard but they all looked great

Yes but what about genetics? Where do you fit it in the percentage stuff? I am not sure if I had shit genetic or shit gear because my dedication was truly on point yet the results were nothing to write home about. In hindsight I regret it all, so much time wasted and so little to show for it.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: illuminati on November 23, 2025, 06:15:20 AM
Not one of them will admit that the drugs are over 80% of bodybuilding success

You can eat a shitty diet and flop through routines and still look great as long as the drugs are in

Most young guys who trained in the gyms in the 90s used to just cycle gear through the summer months for the dance festivals and holidays.
None of them ate well or trained hard but they all looked great


It was all the GHB ecstasy amphetamines they were taking that
kept lean the steroids gave them or helped keep a bit of muscle.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 23, 2025, 07:05:03 AM
Yes but what about genetics? Where do you fit it in the percentage stuff? I am not sure if I had shit genetic or shit gear because my dedication was truly on point yet the results were nothing to write home about. In hindsight I regret it all, so much time wasted and so little to show for it.
90% of genetics is response to drugs
the rest is shape ,muscle bellies and tie ins

I had genetics to be lean and had a decent shape, I had a poor response to drugs as I have low tolerance to sides, I felt unwell if I increased dosage, in hindsight that may have saved my life
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: MuscleBuff on November 23, 2025, 07:40:02 AM
90% of genetics is response to drugs
the rest is shape ,muscle bellies and tie ins

I had genetics to be lean and had a decent shape, I had a poor response to drugs as I have low tolerance to sides, I felt unwell if I increased dosage, in hindsight that may have saved my life

You mean prolonged your life, right? We are all dead men damnit
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 23, 2025, 07:44:27 AM

It was all the GHB ecstasy amphetamines they were taking that
kept lean the steroids gave them or helped keep a bit of muscle.

I recall GHB when Chemical were doing it! Give borresen his due he could market stuff!

His Glutamine bovril drink! The protein that set like angel delight! I had his book the stack! And the big secret- think it was 50 quid!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 23, 2025, 07:50:01 AM
You mean prolonged your life, right? We are all dead men damnit

I mean if I had kept going without the sides I could have ened up killing myself with the shit

Prolonged life works just as well
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 23, 2025, 07:51:46 AM

It was all the GHB ecstasy amphetamines they were taking that
kept lean the steroids gave them or helped keep a bit of muscle.

Yep, full english breakfasts, Mc Donalds and pizza

Not a single prepacked meal, fart powder or pre-workout drink in sight
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: illuminati on November 23, 2025, 01:50:16 PM
I recall GHB when Chemical were doing it! Give borresen his due he could market stuff!

His Glutamine bovril drink! The protein that set like angel delight! I had his book the stack! And the big secret- think it was 50 quid!



I've got those books & several biohazard mags - He wasn't a particularly nice person
& a fraudster.
Many of his ideas were copied & reworked from Dan Duchaine ( I've all his books & they're far better
Than anything paul wrote)

Do you know the background story to the Falling out ( 😄 ) between Paul & Kerry Kayes
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: MuscleBuff on November 23, 2025, 01:52:25 PM
I mean if I had kept going without the sides I could have ened up killing myself with the shit

Prolonged life works just as well
I knew what you meant, just pissed off that we all are going to die
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 23, 2025, 02:00:27 PM


I've got those books & several biohazard mags - He wasn't a particularly nice person
& a fraudster.
Many of his ideas were copied & reworked from Dan Duchaine ( I've all his books & they're far better
Than anything paul wrote)

Do you know the background story to the Falling out ( 😄 ) between Paul & Kerry Kayes


asin falling out of the window! dont know the background! he was a charlatan I agree completely- ripped off trevor smith, ripped off loads over here. please share anything you can!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: illuminati on November 23, 2025, 02:54:07 PM

asin falling out of the window! dont know the background! he was a charlatan I agree completely- ripped off trevor smith, ripped off loads over here. please share anything you can!

I'll pm you 👍🏻
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 23, 2025, 03:13:34 PM
I'll pm you 👍🏻


nice one!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: wes on November 24, 2025, 04:09:54 AM

The first step is realizing you were a tool and owning it. Growth, even at your old age is possible!😂
Looking back,I was the dullest tool in the shed !!   ;D
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 24, 2025, 04:14:05 AM
in wes defence he showed sissphyus how to shift the rock up hil!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on November 24, 2025, 04:36:02 AM
This thread is about JoSwift taking care of himself.

Get back on track, people!

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Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Super Nattie on November 24, 2025, 05:06:30 AM
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Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 24, 2025, 07:28:59 AM

asin falling out of the window! dont know the background! he was a charlatan I agree completely- ripped off trevor smith, ripped off loads over here. please share anything you can!

I remember Trevor Smith arranged a seminar in the US but he arrived in such withdrawal nothing came of it.

Now his short mega-dosed stacks don't look so insane, they look like baseline stacks today. Sustanon a day, what a madman I thought LOL.

He claimed he was at Dorian's house showing him how to use DNP but I think Dorian denied it.

One UK guru that I liked was Brian Batcheldor, still active. Supposedly helps top athletes beat drug tests. I think he worked with methyltren a lot and said MK-677 was insanely effective for adding muscle, but he sold it for a while.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Rambone on November 24, 2025, 07:34:48 AM
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Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 24, 2025, 07:38:52 AM
I recall taking advice off someone who may have been involved in chemical when it started and may have now moved to boxing. Ahem.

His cycle

750mg of test weeks 1-6
300mg primo 7-10
50mg Dbol 1-4
50mg Anavar 7-10

Nolva and Proviron if needed

simple

I then phoned the 'hotline' one day and got boressen.


Days 1-28 1 ml Sust 1 Ml deca
Days 29-42- 1 ml prop, 1 ml primo
Days 1-42- 100mg winstrol
HGH- 5iu- upon waking, after training, pre bed
Insulin 20iu per meal- 6 meals
GHB pre bed every night

Didnt he have a product called XXX? Illuminate or Jeff may know! Or Taffin? Or PS? Anyone?

I followed the first and it was great. The second genuinely scared me as I thought- where the hell do you go from there?


I recall getting into it with trevor smith on elite or anabolex 2003? Where he wa saying he was stronger than anyone else in the world and would dwarf dorian etc etc. Sad what happened but with respect he wasnt the sharpest so easy to outwit.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 24, 2025, 07:53:04 AM


Didnt he have a product called XXX? Illuminate or Jeff may know! Or Taffin? Or PS? Anyone?



He had some product which had 'everything' in it, but wouldn't disclose the ingredients. Only for the very hardcore LOL.

Advocated running a cycle of antiobiotics before roid cycles. And said you should have benzos on hand to combat insomnia. The benzos are reasonable if kept short duration. I think a lot of pros do Xanax and the like just before shows to combat nerves and cortisol spikes. Ambien probably very common which is really a benzo, even if not technically.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 24, 2025, 08:00:54 AM
I think benzos in a cycle was more his excuse for taking them by the handload!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: wes on November 24, 2025, 08:01:07 AM
in wes defence he showed sissphyus how to shift the rock up hil!
38,you and that Krank dude can both go take a hike!!!   LOL   ;D
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 24, 2025, 08:12:43 AM
I think benzos in a cycle was more his excuse for taking them by the handload!

Sure, or they become "essential" to live after a while. I'm on some Rx benzos right now and haven't even trained, too tired to even sit in a chair so I'm lying in bed :D
God send in panicky situations but there's really not even any "high" as such.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: 38 returns on November 24, 2025, 08:13:16 AM
38,you and that Krank dude can both go take a hike!!!   LOL   ;D


or a pilgrimage mate?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 24, 2025, 08:23:37 AM
I was one of those assholes that would bring Tupperware to Christmas and birthday parties and such.......looking back I feel pretty fucking dumb........dumber than I normally am.  :(
:D We all did dumb shit that we thought was so cool at the time.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Krankenstein on November 24, 2025, 11:21:06 AM
38,you and that Krank dude can both go take a hike!!!   LOL   ;D

Longer than the one you took with Moses and his crew?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: CalvinH on November 24, 2025, 03:39:53 PM
I've never watched a BB video, never wanted to do a show. I'll diet when I feel I've gained weight. Barely ever step on a scale.
Fuck that, I love food on the Holidays. I have a big Italian family and it's go time for eating.
I'm like somewhat what joswift said. I start really training hard in the spring through the summer and into that fall so I look the best I can for the warmer days.
I still train in the winter months but I'm just maintaining not pushing hard.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: MuscleBuff on November 24, 2025, 09:22:13 PM
I've never watched a BB video, never wanted to do a show. I'll diet when I feel I've gained weight. Barely ever step on a scale.
Fuck that, I love food on the Holidays. I have a big Italian family and it's go time for eating.
I'm like somewhat what joswift said. I start really training hard in the spring through the summer and into that fall so I look the best I can for the warmer days.
I still train in the winter months but I'm just maintaining not pushing hard.
Is it not slightly odd narrating yourself like that?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: wes on November 25, 2025, 05:16:54 AM
Longer than the one you took with Moses and his crew?
:D
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Never1AShow on November 25, 2025, 05:44:12 AM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat

C'mon, you made this post title to taunt Hankins right?  I thought for sure this thread was about him outside looking in
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 25, 2025, 11:08:48 AM
Say not gaining any bodyfat is very important to you, isn't the easy solution to fast or just eat protein for a day or two or three and then have a guilt free feast at holidays? I mean that's how many bodybuilders diet now anyway.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 25, 2025, 11:33:12 AM
Say not gaining any bodyfat is very important to you, isn't the easy solution to fast or just eat protein for a day or two or three and then have a guilt free feast at holidays? I mean that's how many bodybuilders diet now anyway.
who are you talking to?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 26, 2025, 08:56:37 AM
Say not gaining any bodyfat is very important to you, isn't the easy solution to fast or just eat protein for a day or two or three and then have a guilt free feast at holidays? I mean that's how many bodybuilders diet now anyway.
I'm dieting right now. Tomorrow I'm going to be like a pig at the trough. ;D
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 27, 2025, 11:01:44 AM
Remember when I said I got out of bodybuilding before I ended up onstage and people saying "why is this guy still carrying on?"

I like to think I got out looking reasonable even though I only placed 4th in this show in 2023 after winning it the year before

NABBA UK over 60s 2025

Winner centre is 68
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Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: wes on November 27, 2025, 11:55:15 AM
Remember when I said I got out of bodybuilding before I ended up onstage and people saying "why is this guy still carrying on?"

I like to think I got out looking reasonable even though I only placed 4th in this show in 2023 after winning it the year before

NABBA UK over 60s 2025

Winner centre is 68
(https://scontent-lhr6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/589647363_25159758963682247_817912773467175464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=M9hvD6E7w2EQ7kNvwFiHTOG&_nc_oc=Adnx0pSFnFCDv3nVatbwHBZv7kYgVjP2GhKP9Y8IslMGg9W9esV2OPW3Qbu7PmlOU1uhaTi2hHB7tiam_F0j1glb&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr6-1.xx&_nc_gid=y5pNXQhroXa8pna3bTL5JQ&oh=00_Afjx7rdHbB65_cgYeu4ZKA7mDsePB-349IJ5EzRh8lC59Q&oe=692E677E)
GEEZUS!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111  :(
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: mops on November 27, 2025, 12:07:32 PM

NABBA UK over 60s 2025

Winner centre is 68
(https://scontent-lhr6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/589647363_25159758963682247_817912773467175464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=M9hvD6E7w2EQ7kNvwFiHTOG&_nc_oc=Adnx0pSFnFCDv3nVatbwHBZv7kYgVjP2GhKP9Y8IslMGg9W9esV2OPW3Qbu7PmlOU1uhaTi2hHB7tiam_F0j1glb&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr6-1.xx&_nc_gid=y5pNXQhroXa8pna3bTL5JQ&oh=00_Afjx7rdHbB65_cgYeu4ZKA7mDsePB-349IJ5EzRh8lC59Q&oe=692E677E)

Hankins racing on his tricycle to the UK to compete in the 60+ category after seeing this picture.



Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Primemuscle on November 27, 2025, 12:49:42 PM
There is nothing physically great about getting really old. Take it from someone who knows this from personal experience. But don't let this ever stop you from exercising and eating well.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Skeletor on November 27, 2025, 01:04:58 PM
Remember when I said I got out of bodybuilding before I ended up onstage and people saying "why is this guy still carrying on?"

I like to think I got out looking reasonable even though I only placed 4th in this show in 2023 after winning it the year before

NABBA UK over 60s 2025

Winner centre is 68
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMYpX9zY/still-last-in-septuagenarian-class.jpg)

Bhank would still place last.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: illuminati on November 27, 2025, 01:34:09 PM
Remember when I said I got out of bodybuilding before I ended up onstage and people saying "why is this guy still carrying on?"

I like to think I got out looking reasonable even though I only placed 4th in this show in 2023 after winning it the year before

NABBA UK over 60s 2025

Winner centre is 68
(https://scontent-lhr6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/589647363_25159758963682247_817912773467175464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=M9hvD6E7w2EQ7kNvwFiHTOG&_nc_oc=Adnx0pSFnFCDv3nVatbwHBZv7kYgVjP2GhKP9Y8IslMGg9W9esV2OPW3Qbu7PmlOU1uhaTi2hHB7tiam_F0j1glb&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr6-1.xx&_nc_gid=y5pNXQhroXa8pna3bTL5JQ&oh=00_Afjx7rdHbB65_cgYeu4ZKA7mDsePB-349IJ5EzRh8lC59Q&oe=692E677E)


Hanky Panky Bhanky is just out of camera shot - he's behind the advertising boards as they
Gave him a broom & told him to sweep up. & keep off the stage.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2025, 07:03:51 AM
There is nothing physically great about getting really old. Take it from someone who knows this from personal experience. But don't let this ever stop you from exercising and eating well.
Big difference between that and getting up on stage looking like a troll.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Grape Ape on November 28, 2025, 07:14:24 AM
Their faces all look like they went up 20 flights of stairs to get on stage.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2025, 07:21:23 AM
Their faces all look like they went up 20 flights of stairs to get on stage.
:D That would have killed them at that age.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: njflex on November 28, 2025, 10:27:36 AM
JOSWIFT u looked very good at that stage of competing nothing to be ashamed of whatsover..
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 28, 2025, 11:11:31 AM
JOSWIFT u looked very good at that stage of competing nothing to be ashamed of whatsover..
I noticed the decline.. most dont accept it
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Griffith on November 28, 2025, 11:15:11 AM
I noticed the decline.. most dont accept it

At which age did you start noticing a decline?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 28, 2025, 11:21:31 AM
At which age did you start noticing a decline?
from the UK win in 2022 to the last show in Nov 23, I was 58 at that show

I just couldnt get in shape , I had been dieting for around 15 months none stop so I put it down to that

My body just wasnt responding, I didnt want to be that guy..

Its like a man flirting with women, it goes from a flirt to a dirty old man overnight

Best to stop flirting earlier than later.  ;D
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Flexacon on November 28, 2025, 01:07:15 PM
There is nothing physically great about getting really old. Take it from someone who knows this from personal experience. But don't let this ever stop you from exercising and eating well.

Great advice Prime. Do you still use the treadmill in the nude?
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: MuscleBuff on November 28, 2025, 03:32:09 PM
Remember when I said I got out of bodybuilding before I ended up onstage and people saying "why is this guy still carrying on?"

I like to think I got out looking reasonable even though I only placed 4th in this show in 2023 after winning it the year before

NABBA UK over 60s 2025

Winner centre is 68
(https://scontent-lhr6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/589647363_25159758963682247_817912773467175464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=M9hvD6E7w2EQ7kNvwFiHTOG&_nc_oc=Adnx0pSFnFCDv3nVatbwHBZv7kYgVjP2GhKP9Y8IslMGg9W9esV2OPW3Qbu7PmlOU1uhaTi2hHB7tiam_F0j1glb&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr6-1.xx&_nc_gid=y5pNXQhroXa8pna3bTL5JQ&oh=00_Afjx7rdHbB65_cgYeu4ZKA7mDsePB-349IJ5EzRh8lC59Q&oe=692E677E)

This seems extremely undignified and degrading
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on November 28, 2025, 04:25:52 PM
Great advice Prime. Do you still use the treadmill in the nude?

Ony when the window cleaners due
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on November 30, 2025, 03:49:37 PM
Please do not post the word "advice".

The correct word is "advices".

(https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-e1682343706673.jpeg?w=1024)
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2025, 01:17:24 AM
Please do not post the word "advice".

The correct word is "advices".

(https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-e1682343706673.jpeg?w=1024)

what are U ..the crusty old Teacher or what? 
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on December 01, 2025, 04:30:52 AM
what are U ..the crusty old Teacher or what? 

Report to the Principal immediately!
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2025, 04:36:40 AM
Report to the Principal immediately!

creepy  ;D
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: King Shizzo on December 01, 2025, 05:59:58 AM
Since I got out of bodybuilding I cant even get through the online prep and training videos without thinking "What a fucking idiot"

One girl not having a xmas dinner because she was in prep for a show three months away because her husband told her to.

One guy talking about his pre-and post workout drinks and adding in multiple different products including upwards of 15gms of creatine


Not to mention the "almond butter brigade"

Competitors these days seem to live on supplements and pre-packed meals
They bang on about how important the nutrition is then add chocolate to their morning oats

All the emphasis on eating and training but without the copius amounts of drugs they would look like the average gym rat
Why the shift in mindset? Age? You were more committed than most, so I find it interesting on why your perspective has changed.
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on December 01, 2025, 11:19:14 AM
Why the shift in mindset? Age? You were more committed than most, so I find it interesting on why your perspective has changed.
Maybe it was that I realised what a colossal waste of time and money it was.

When you are on the inside you think nothing of injecting yourself mutiple times a week thinking its normal.

Imagine meeting a new girlfriend who wasnt involved in bodybuilding and after a few weeks of not telling her about your sordid secret lifestyle of what you had to do to look the way you did trying to explain your rationale.

She would think you were a fucking idiot

Bodybuilding is just a facade, its not real, nothing about it is genuine.
The people who claim that the drugs are only a small part of what it takes to look like they do.

Its 80% drugs minimum of the look
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: IroNat on December 01, 2025, 12:14:09 PM
Swifty,
I am confident you will continue to train for health and strength.
Did Bhanky call you from the airport yet?

(https://i.gifer.com/origin/13/1387101be5b755d387f77e82f2893a87_w200.gif)
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: joswift on December 01, 2025, 01:22:50 PM
Swifty,
I am confident you will continue to train for health and strength.
Did Bhanky call you from the airport yet?

(https://i.gifer.com/origin/13/1387101be5b755d387f77e82f2893a87_w200.gif)

I will be going in the morning
few sets of dips , band assisted pull ups, bit of shoulder and arm work and some press ups
Title: Re: on the outside looking in
Post by: MuscleBuff on December 01, 2025, 01:24:15 PM
Swifty,
I am confident you will continue to train for health and strength.
Did Bhanky call you from the airport yet?

(https://i.gifer.com/origin/13/1387101be5b755d387f77e82f2893a87_w200.gif)

Corona vaccine of peace