oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time.lol ;D
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5....yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods. What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"...oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right....or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills....oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally. People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals. I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5....yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods. What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"...oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right....or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills....oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally. People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals. I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5....yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods. What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"...oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right....or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills....oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally. People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals. I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
alright get off it...take an avg person..give him the amount you r on and he'll handle it for a week or more just fine..
i juice..but i'm sick of the "avg person cannot handle this" or that comments
they ask you about steroids cause steroids are illegal and food is not..simple..it aint fair but quit whining..
as for eating cardboard..no ones putting a fucking gun to your head to eat food that tastes like cardboard...
it IS the jyuice that seperates me from them at least..yanno i eat like crap most of the time..and train like a wuss...its only when i'm juicing is when my training steps up and when i see quick results..guess what..i start eating stuff that tastes like cardboard with a smile..JUICE MAKES IT EASIER...
its easier to make quick gains and then fall into a strict diet than be natural and make slow gains while following a strict diet..
so please..stfu..
its like when priest says " yeah i juice but i only have 1 anadrol pill that i lick a teensy bit before i train" ::)
You make a great point. I can relate to you a lot, not in terms of height or weight (I am taller and bigger) but with what you are thinking / feeling. Unfortunately, the general public seems to be clueless when it comes to gauging a person's (relative) size and strength levels and this is most probably due to how few guys there are out there that are really built. The average person seems to have a certain cut -off point, sometimes as low as someone being over 190 or 200 lbs (for guys under 5'10). Anyone bigger than that, having a pair of 18" arms or above is 'on steroids' ::)
I train in a University gym which is pretty good - they let you use chalk, the power racks are empty most of the times (except when some moron does quarter squats with a 45 lb plate on each side, but that's another story altogether) and they let you do your thing. I myself train the old-school way - basic, heavy free-weight compound movements with a bit of machines and cables thrown in at the end. The thing that gets to me is that how out of ALL the students and others who train (if it can be called that), apart from myself and a couple of other powerlifters, NO ONE has the slightest inkling of what hard work is.
Most of the students think that the reason they dont make gains is because they have an ineffective programme - oh brother ::). They always do cables and machines and swiss ball stuff - anything that makes the workout easier. And they ALL TALK, ALL THE TIME - every f*cking one of them >:(. I've got nothing against people doing what they want, but it does annoy me when they see me work my butt off and bring up the 'steroid' remark and the associated gestures - making an injecting symbol with their hands, shaking their heads etc (BTW, I am a natty 100 % 8))
I know that almost all of them are just plain mediocrities and the one thing they all have in common is the way they hate anyone with a passion (in this case, for lifting). You can tell they know they will never be able to match your passion and thus come up with every lame thing to try and make themselves feel better. Of course, I don't care what they think and in fact, take it as a compliment, but it would be good if people didn't try to undermine / negate your hard work - it's like you bust your butt and scored an A in an exam, only to have people say that you did that only because you cheated.
Just had to vent, sorry. And NPCOK - great to see you being focused on what you are doing mate. Keep it up. In the end, even if no-one understood / appreciated you, you know that you gained self-respect (and respect from guys like me) and trust me, all the adoration and appreciation of those mediocrities won't equal that 8)
do you take steriods? If you do then your post is worthless
alright get off it...take an avg person..give him the amount you r on and he'll handle it for a week or more just fine..your the exact reason people give roids a bad name, you cant grow off of them. You cant diet correctly either. You use them for your lazy ass and weak mind. Whether im on or off i diet hard an train hard. I hold 240 quite easily off juice. I have not touched a thing since last may after my last two shows an im still 230-235 with all my abs. Your have no business with roids.
i juice..but i'm sick of the "avg person cannot handle this" or that comments
they ask you about steroids cause steroids are illegal and food is not..simple..it aint fair but quit whining..
as for eating cardboard..no ones putting a fucking gun to your head to eat food that tastes like cardboard...
it IS the jyuice that seperates me from them at least..yanno i eat like crap most of the time..and train like a wuss...its only when i'm juicing is when my training steps up and when i see quick results..guess what..i start eating stuff that tastes like cardboard with a smile..JUICE MAKES IT EASIER...
its easier to make quick gains and then fall into a strict diet than be natural and make slow gains while following a strict diet..
so please..stfu..
its like when priest says " yeah i juice but i only have 1 anadrol pill that i lick a teensy bit before i train" ::)
your the exact reason people give roids a bad name, you cant grow off of them. You cant diet correctly either. You use them for your fucking lazy ass and weak mind. Whether im on or off i diet hard an train hard. I hold 240 quite easily off juice. I have not touched a thing since last may after my last two shows an im still 230-235 with all my abs. Your a fucking ass whistle and have no business with roids. Let me see those pics again of you with your 13" arm ya cockflute.
WOWZER!........................ .......
Flex Wheeler was pretty good with oneliners when strangers would come and ask him steroid questions. "You do roids?" "You do crack?", "What do you bench" "I use the bench for presses!", "Are you on Deca? "Show me your tits" etc.
It's not the average lame brain with comments of, "Are you on juice?" that ruin the sport, it's the obsurd drug usage throughout the industry that gives bodybuilding a bad rep.
The reason most people have that response when they see someone who looks pretty good is because most people can't achieve that naturally. The sport is so flooded with second rate drug users that it's only normal to assume most people are on with any substantial gains. The majority of people who have ever trained do not have the dedication over time required to achieve much on a natural level, this is why you see gyms flooded with juiced up weekend warriors getting ready to go " clubbin' " for the summer. It's not the average lame brain with comments of, "Are you on juice?" that ruin the sport, it's the obsurd drug usage throughout the industry that gives bodybuilding a bad rep.
A few months ago, while at a party, some assclown asked me, "So, how many steroids are you pumping in each arm?" I hesistated and questioned the drunkeness of the individual, then remembered what it felt like to weigh 150lbs soaking wet. I don't remember what I said at the time, but should have said, "Only one cycle in 1994 baby. I've gotten some awesome mileage from it! Up to 185 at the time from 160, then down to 150lbs. Now here's the secret, stop lifting for a few years, smoke cigarettes, eat ice cream, then start back lifting and you'll go from 150lbs (2002) to 215lbs (2005) natural in a few years. That's the secret to juicing...haha You just can't compare drug gains with natural ones. Anybody with $300 and a gym membership can gain 25lbs in a 2 months on gear, it's easy cause I've done it.
Croatch on...
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5.... yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods.
What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"... oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right.... or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills.... oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally.
People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals.
I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
So you do in fact use steroids right?hahaha, he is quite the little bitch isn't he?
Shut up crybaby.
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5.... yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods.
What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"... oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right.... or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills.... oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally.
People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals.
I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
hahaha, he is quite the little bitch isn't he?
Yes Sarcasm. He is a little bitch.hahaha, 5'5", monster Napolean complex.
hahaha, 5'5", monster Napolean complex.
What is this guy's weight right now on the juice? He would be 145 max off I'm guessing. Yes. Classic little man complex. I bet he gets punchy with every guy over 5'8''
Welcome to the world of a competitive BB...thats all I get from everyone.
I had a 'father' recently ask me if I know where to score some dbols for his 13yr old son who is in 8th grade and plays football but he weighs 120lbs and wants him up to 165 before his freshman yr...
I had relatives, in-laws blatantly ask me direct...'do you take steroids because they are bad for you...' literally second after meeting them.
I constantly have 'avarage joes' preaching to me how unhealthy I am as they puff on a cigarette and as their beer belly hangs over their beltline...
There is nothing better than giving out false or bogus information for the sake of looking at their faces as they look confused...telling people to try to eat as much ice creme as possible at bedtime because there is a certain chemical found in the diary used to whip the creme that is found in steroids...is so funny. When asked how much I bench...even though I never bench...I tell them double what you think your max might be...like...''yea, I can bench 850...no problem!"
I fuggin cant stand people now I think about it...Im getting pissed just typing in this thread...damnit!!!
haha. classic.
These midgets like Dr.Coc or whatever his name is feel the need to take steroids to compensate for their terrible genetics. When someone calls them on it they get offended because they are reminded of their inadequacies.
(http://www.finerphysiques.com/2005/Brenton/side%20tricep.jpg)
WHAT A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe they do but what exactly do YOU do oliver to compensate for being an insecure miserable little bitch?
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I'll bet my life he looks better than youhe's ripped i'll give him that but he's about as big as one of my legs.
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The stupid inbreeds that make the comments you stated are just justifying there own self defeat in life cause they either lack the willpower to achieve something greater than polishing off a box of 4 dozen powder doughnuts or stating that everyone that achieves something great in life cheated!!!
Off-topic...
Are you from the OKC area? Will you be competing in the NPC this year in Tulsa?
I'm bigger and taller than this guy and I don't do anything. Much less take steroids. My genetics are that much superior to his. hahahahahahahahahaha
I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
so why do all of your posts wreak of insecurity?
the girls ignore you I bet hahahahhahaha
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he's ripped i'll give him that but he's about as big as one of my legs.
I'm actually from Tulsa, and yes I will do the NPC Ok then Jr's the next week. I have some friends from OKC though...are you from OKC?
Not everyone can be a monster 220 lb steroid user like you, sore-chasm. ::)this coming from a guy who doesn't do any squats or deadlifts or any back training at all and still only benches 320 for 4 and has to push press 205, hahaha, all at 260lbs. bodyweight, monster weakness.
The NPCOK appreciation thread started by sarcasm was deleted by an unknown GB moderator.the sad thing is he's juiced to the gills.
In it Dan-O said (regarding NPCOK):
"Is this the guy who has the audacity to get offended when people ask him if he's on steroids even though he is?"
I would agree. If NPCOK is on steroids this thread is worthless.
I have a 7.5'' cock hahahahahahahahahahahaha haah
I think I know how he "broke in" the bodybuilding scene and earned his name. I bet "NPCOCK" would hang out backstage at all the major bodybuilding competions working as a water boy/posing oil man. He would start telling the pros how he aspires to be a PRO WELTERWEIGHT BODYBUILDER and when they were distracted he would spike their drinks with viagra. Then when they were about to go onstage NPCOCK says, "wait a minute there bros, you can't go out there with those striated vascular cocks hanging out. I'm your water boy, and it's my duty to suck you off. There's simply no other option!" HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AAHA Gayer than liberaces piano auctioned off on ebay.
does your boyfriend brag about his?
more like 7.5cm i guess
I heard people with large cocks don't need to boast about their size.
The NPCOK appreciation thread started by sarcasm was deleted by an unknown GB moderator.
In it Dan-O said (regarding NPCOK):
"Is this the guy who has the audacity to get offended when people ask him if he's on steroids even though he is?"
I would agree. If NPCOK is on steroids this thread is worthless.
does your boyfriend brag about his?
are you saying that npcok prays to the phallus god?
more like 7.5cm i guess
I heard people with large cocks don't need to boast about their size.
This thread is more suitable for musclemayhem where the competitors want to pretend steroids aren't a major factor in muscle gain and that they get that big from working hard in the gym and eating dry chicken and broccoli.very true.
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forum
Newsflash, steroids are the #1 factor in what makes a pro a pro.
You ladies are hilarious....
You assume that the guy is "GEARED" without any proof.... Thats funny... :D
But I do want to see your reasoning behind the "this thread is worthless if hes on the sauce" discussion
because I don't see it yet....
You ladies are hilarious....
You assume that the guy is "GEARED" without any proof.... Thats funny... :D
But I do want to see your reasoning behind the "this thread is worthless if hes on the sauce" discussion
because I don't see it yet....
People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals.
So you have only heard of people with large cocks. That means you have a small one.
This thread is more suitable for musclemayhem where the competitors want to pretend steroids aren't a major factor in muscle gain and that they get that big from working hard in the gym and eating dry chicken and broccoli.
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forum
Newsflash, steroids are the #1 factor in what makes a pro a pro.
This implies that Ronnie could compete at 240-270 shredded without steroids.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! an NPC jr. nationals level competitor in my gym said he saw Coleman off season at a show when he was off cycle and said to me, "dude, he was no bigger than you" talking about me and i'm 230.
Bullshit..... gear makes up 15-20% of a total overall development..
(IT GETS YOU OVER THE HUMP GENTICALLY WISE)
Nutrition 70%
Training 10%
example
A drag car....
On pump gas it hits 120mph @ 12.5 in the quarter mile....add a 150# shot of NOS it hits 145 @ 11.2 or so
but without the proper timing,fuel mix,tread, and driver reaction time that extra 1.3 seconds don't mean shit.. just a waste of about $100 venting into the air.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! an NPC jr. nationals level competitor in my gym said he saw Coleman off season at a show when he was off cycle and said to me, "dude, he was no bigger than you" talking about me and i'm 230.
Again, think about cattle. They are given hormones and do NOTHING and gain how many hundreds of pounds of lean tissue? ::)
Also if you check any studies done by Shalender Bhasin and his colleagues you will see that those being injected with steroids doing NOTHING made greater gains in muscle mass than naturals training when both groups had the same diet!
Steroids are AS SIGNIFICANT or MORE SIGNIFICANT than any other factor. Period.
You must be a monsterno he meant that Coleman wasn't big at all, he was probably clean at the time.
no he meant that Coleman wasn't big at all, he was probably clean at the time.
No you're talking bullshit. Look at the studies Matt C refered to.
Get your lazy ass onto the couch and in front of the TV and slurp some protein shakes, if you are on roids you will build muscle and lose fat. No pro would be where he is if he didn't juice. If it was really that small a factor as you suggest, you would be able to find naturals at a mr o competition.
I believe it, since he is your height too. My friends saw him at the Arnold off cycle and said he looked "attainable". Maybe for them since they are easier gainers than I am. 230 at 5'11 is not small by any means but definitely not even close to what he was at his biggest at the 2004 Grand Prix Holland - 303 pounds shredded. It's nonsense to think Ronnie would be 240-270 shredded without steroids and anything else he does (GH, insulin, etc).yeah i truly believe that he takes a little while off of just about everything to clean out, maybe it helps with the receptor siters when he goes back on.
I believe it, since he is your height too. My friends saw him at the Arnold off cycle and said he looked "attainable". Maybe for them since they are easier gainers than I am. 230 at 5'11 is not small by any means but definitely not even close to what he was at his biggest at the 2004 Grand Prix Holland - 303 pounds shredded. It's nonsense to think Ronnie would be 240-270 shredded without steroids and anything else he does (GH, insulin, etc).
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5.... yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods.
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5.... yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods.
What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"... oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right.... or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills.... oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally.
People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals.
I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! an NPC jr. nationals level competitor in my gym said he saw Coleman off season at a show when he was off cycle and said to me, "dude, he was no bigger than you" talking about me and i'm 230.
Possibly because it is?
This thread is more suitable for musclemayhem where the competitors want to pretend steroids aren't a major factor in muscle gain and that they get that big from working hard in the gym and eating dry chicken and broccoli.
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forum
Newsflash, steroids are the #1 factor in what makes a pro a pro.
If he's on the sauce and people are asking him if he's on the sauce he has no right to get defensive. He should own up to the fact that he uses.
I believe it, since he is your height too. My friends saw him at the Arnold off cycle and said he looked "attainable". Maybe for them since they are easier gainers than I am.
Nope, never said that.
But I go on record to say that no one would have 20" arms or bench 500 WITHOUT steroids.
i "know a guy" who did steroids....npccocklover is on steroids.
whoever thinks steroids aren't a MAJOR factor....well you're an idiot, give your "training& diet, bro" too much credit, or have never done it themselves.
The 500 pound bench is debatable. It might be possible to achieve that naturally but I would say naturals who bench 500 are few and far between.
As for a 20" muscular arm naturally - no chance. Unless the person is 6'5 maybe.
But I go on record to say that no one would have 20" arms or bench 500 WITHOUT steroids.
Everyone knows it's a mojor factor when your talkin about being a top level BBer or a pro but when your just inshape and kinda big for your height and your lean some people assume you must be taking somthing when it can easily be attained naturally.
wouldn't you agree the guy in the banana hammock photo up there is just a touch above "kinda big and lean" though?
You mean Npcok?
He doesn't look that huge to me, just ripped.
Why would NPCOK have the audacity to get offended when someone accuses him of using steroids when he does lol.
NPCOK = National Physique Committee Oklahoma.
lol, I think NPCOK expected a series of mayhem-like replies where everyone jumps in and says that it's the hard training and diet that makes people grow and ignore the fact that steroids are a huge factor.
Some of them want to pretend that. I guess if it makes them feel better about themselves, why not?
LOL! Yep. That and give him praise for his "iron warrior" work ethic.
Yeah, it's really hard to fill a syringe up with gear and inject it into your quad lol.
Can't forget eating though. But that really isn't all that complicated.
when i was younger i asked a guy what he did to get so big he said eat doughnuts after you workout...i thaught he was full of shit.. well one day he asked me to lift with him and i did after the workout when we were leaving in the locker he had half a dozen krispy kreme doughnuts....
p.s. he also did 2 hours of cardio a day to keep in shape lol
LOL! Good point.
I don't think this thread turned out the way NPCOK planned. It went sour the moment people started calling him "NPCock" lol.
I didn't know Ronnie was the 7th member of The Village People?
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/juicy6925/ronniecoleman.jpg)
(http://www.harrahs.com/images/ATL/entertainment/HAC_VILLAGE_large.jpg)
alright get off it...take an avg person..give him the amount you r on and he'll handle it for a week or more just fine..people like you give gear a bad name and rep. do you compete? eating cardboard, eating right, and bustin ass is all part of success in bodybuilding. If you are just a "joe" weightlifter taking gear cause youre lazy...whatever....
i juice..but i'm sick of the "avg person cannot handle this" or that comments
they ask you about steroids cause steroids are illegal and food is not..simple..it aint fair but quit whining..
as for eating cardboard..no ones putting a fucking gun to your head to eat food that tastes like cardboard...
it IS the jyuice that seperates me from them at least..yanno i eat like crap most of the time..and train like a wuss...its only when i'm juicing is when my training steps up and when i see quick results..guess what..i start eating stuff that tastes like cardboard with a smile..JUICE MAKES IT EASIER...
its easier to make quick gains and then fall into a strict diet than be natural and make slow gains while following a strict diet..
so please..stfu..
its like when priest says " yeah i juice but i only have 1 anadrol pill that i lick a teensy bit before i train" ::)
people like you give gear a bad name and rep. do you compete? eating cardboard, eating right, and bustin ass is all part of success in bodybuilding. If you are just a "joe" weightlifter taking gear cause youre lazy...whatever....
why put shit in you if you dont need to?
NPCOK - If you're not on the sauce why would you be offended? Not a month goes by where one person or another doesn't make that comment to me and I always consider it a compliment because they must think I am. In April, one guy I know even took me to the corner of the gym to have a heart-to-heart with me about the dangers of steroids, LOL.
The only time I was ever offended was when one person said I was on but didn't look like it. This offended me that he thought I was a juicer yet showed no results.
Also I disagree that you need 18 inch arms to get accused of steroids. We live in a very out of shape society so anyone with any type of shape is often considered to be "ON" by others. Professional athletes with 13 inch arms are accused of being "ON".
By the way NPCOK, if I had to guess I would say you are on steroids and that is why you're so offended because you feel no credit is being given to your other efforts. Well in that case, guess what? Chances are you are severely downplaying the effectiveness of gear.
It reminds me of some of the pros on mayhem who want to give themselves so much credit for their hard work. Well you know something? That hard work would get you NOWHERE without juice - that is, nowhere past being maybe 200 pounds lean at 5'10. Yeah some juicers work hard no doubt, but give steroids the credit they deserve (a lot of it).
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5.... yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods.It's ashame that people just assume, but unfortunately it is the ignorance that comes along with being in the industry. You shouldn't have to defend yourself for being natural or not being natural.
What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"... oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right.... or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills.... oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally.
People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals.
I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
It must seriously suck to base your self esteem on acceptance from others. Sad.
lol, I think NPCOK expected a series of mayhem-like replies where everyone jumps in and says that it's the hard training and diet that makes people grow and ignore the fact that steroids are a huge factor.
Some of them want to pretend that. I guess if it makes them feel better about themselves, why not?
Yeah, but npCock isn't Ronnie or Jay and obviously he HASN'T any superiour genes.
He looks just like the typicla gym juicer.
he's ripped i'll give him that but he's about as big as one of my legs.
LMAO, I never said he is like Ronnie or Jay - did you read my first paragraph? I was just saying that he was justified in getting angry at all the people who thought that he made all his gains just from swallowing or injecting something, as opposed to ALSO doing a lot of hard work.
BTW, FYI the rest of the stuff in my post isn't about NPCOK at all ;)
I have a 7.5'' cock hahahahahahahahahahahaha haahso doesnt your mother
What zoo are you going to NP COCK? Maybe I 'll show up and mistakenly pick you up thinking your a stick and throw you at a lion or tiger. If that is you...Then sir, I dwarf the bejesus outta you ..hahahhaahaha...
Im an internet tough guy want to meet up? Cause I will, then I will have to take a pic of me owning you when I R.Kelly all over your unconscious body..hahahah
JaeJown3d!! ..thats two already today!!
Np cock.....very well thought out..I'm sure it took you all the way through recess to think of that. Since you are so impressive: what was the last contest that you competed in and how did you place? I still hear you talking shit, but have yet to see a pic....Hmmm? I have to train some clients now...you, and your circle jerk buddies on here can fill up a couple more pages with shit talking, without backing up anything..until then have fun kids! O by the way my name is Brenton Robinson. I live in Tulsa Ok. The address to my training studio is 10124 B South Sheridan.....Unlike the rest of you I"m not scared to let people know who I am or where they can find me. I train MMA (Wing Chin, Muay Tai, Kali, BJJ) and I'm sure the guys that I train with put up more of a fight in our pratice drills than some internet nerd could do in an all out fight. Come by and prove me wrong any time... I'm sure I won't even break a sweat. Until then prove me wrong on my first challenge....all of you shit talkers post pictures of yourself....Show us all how superior you are to me. I would finish this little paragraph with something about how you have now been "owned" by me....self proclaimed at that, but frankly that is just gay.
I train MMA (Wing Chin, Muay Tai, Kali, BJJ)
You are a delusional and insecure little blowhard. How big were your arms before taking steroids, 16.5"?ok, you huge massively strong beast you, hahahaha 260lbs. with a 320lb. bench for 4 reps and a 205 standing push press, hahahahahahahahaha.
uuuhhh, i'm so scared...
Maybe you can show us how these moves work over the internet, dumbass...
yeah that is sad matt but it isn't just bodybuilders
it's about 90% of society
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I also would like to invite all of the internet tough guys on this thread to the zoo this weekend. We will be throwing rocks at the lions and tigers...oh I know it sounds dangerous, but not to worry....The animals are in cages and they will not be able to hurt you. It's going to be such a rush...I mean just think...trying to piss off a creature that could tear you to pieces from a safe distance...it must make you feel like your 7 foot tall and bulletproof....afterward s we can all go back to my place and email some UFC fighters from an anonymous email address and tell them they are pussies....it's going to be sooo much fun. Sarcasm I know I can count on you to be there ::)all this noise coming from a guy 5'5" 155lbs. with 14 inch arms and 20 inch legs, oh but you're ripped, hahahahahaha, i'm absolutely terrified ::) tell you what PM me, i'm in Missouri not far from you at all, and we'll set up a little "talk", how's that tough guy?
ok, you huge massively strong beast you, hahahaha 260lbs. with a 320lb. bench for 4 reps and a 205 standing push press, hahahahahahahahaha.
all this noise coming from a guy 5'5" 155lbs. with 14 inch arms and 20 inch legs, oh but you're ripped, hahahahahaha, i'm absolutely terrified ::) tell you what PM me, i'm in Missouri not far from you at all, and we'll set up a little "talk", how's that tough guy?
all this noise coming from a guy 5'5" 155lbs. with 14 inch arms and 20 inch legs, oh but you're ripped, hahahahahaha, i'm absolutely terrified ::) tell you what PM me, i'm in Missouri not far from you at all, and we'll set up a little "talk", how's that tough guy?
when you meet NPCOK, don't ask him if he juices, he'll get really mad.he won't do shit.
We are social animals ::)
all this noise coming from a guy 5'5" 155lbs. with 14 inch arms and 20 inch legs, oh but you're ripped, hahahahahaha, i'm absolutely terrified ::) tell you what PM me, i'm in Missouri not far from you at all, and we'll set up a little "talk", how's that tough guy?
I also would like to invite all of the internet tough guys on this thread to the zoo this weekend. We will be throwing rocks at the lions and tigers...oh I know it sounds dangerous, but not to worry....The animals are in cages and they will not be able to hurt you. It's going to be such a rush...I mean just think...trying to piss off a creature that could tear you to pieces from a safe distance...it must make you feel like your 7 foot tall and bulletproof....afterward s we can all go back to my place and email some UFC fighters from an anonymous email address and tell them they are pussies....it's going to be sooo much fun. Sarcasm I know I can count on you to be there ::)That was good. ;)
Tulsa is too far away for me to take a sh*t... i live in NYC bro , and MMA stuff is all nice but when your ass gets kicked dont go to sensai and ask wh ythe drills didnt work.
NP COCK was a name someone else gave you , i just reiterated it , oh so your a trainer ? wow going places with that career , must be happy making 20 thousand a year ..hahah in Tulsa no less..hahah
Internet nerd I am not, oh cause i dont put up my pic that makes me steve urkel right ..hahaha ..see this it the thing ... I dont need people to tell me ..hey you look good ...by posting a pic.. conversely why open myself up to ridicule ?? Ronnie is the champ and he gets shitted on daily... so regardless , i am smart enough to know that once you put up a pic there is no going back.. however I will say that I definitely dwarf the shit out of you ..what your like 160 ...hahahha you use steroids right ? hahhah . I do this for fun... this is your life ambition not mine, i couldnt care less about gettin in front of 12 people at the Mr. Tulsa...but if you ever want to be a tourist and visit the BIG APPLE then holla at me dawg and we can have a Mix Martial Arts fight anywhere and Ill have it taped, but to tell you the truth Im outta your wieght class... Im 195, play 3 to four hours of B Ball easily, meaning i have stamina and more importantly i have been in REAL fights, no refs, no point, no classes.. and after your knocked out, imma put your mouth on the curb and step down , where im from thats called a mouthful..not the type of mouthful your thinking of johnnycakes..
So dont come here tryin to terrify everyone by calling every body an internet geek, cause some of us bench your total weight in each hand (ie 160 dmbbells) and cause we dont go on stage doesnt me were not big dudes. I have respect for those (some of them anyways) that go on stage but its not for me, some of us have careeers outside of a gym ...
ok this is too long a post for too small a boy,
if you want to be Own3d in person come to the big city, i will take a pic of me doing an R kelly on your ass..hahah
ps ..genetically speaking you should never got on stage again ...
pss...jaeOw3d :-*
"WARNING.... WARNING.... M3LTDOWN.....M3LTDOWN... ..clear the site, save the pics..... EVACUATE NOW"
dont make me ethernet armbar you
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5.... yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods.
What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"... oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right.... or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills.... oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally.
People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals.
I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
that one was actually pretty funny
all this noise coming from a guy 5'5" 155lbs. with 14 inch arms and 20 inch legs, oh but you're ripped, hahahahahaha, i'm absolutely terrified ::) tell you what PM me, i'm in Missouri not far from you at all, and we'll set up a little "talk", how's that tough guy?
Yeah, I drink gravy while I walk on the treadmill at 5:00 a.m. Is that not okay?
Thats fine. Have you tried using gravy in your post workout shake?No, I generally blend up some doughnuts, french fries, and a can of copenhagen in 32 oz. of beer for my post workout shake. Maybe I should switch
No, I generally blend up some doughnuts, french fries, and a can of copenhagen in 32 oz. of beer for my post workout shake. Maybe I should switch
ok, you huge massively strong beast you, hahahaha 260lbs. with a 320lb. bench for 4 reps and a 205 standing push press, hahahahahahahahaha.
This coming from a guy who can can't even bench 385 or deadlift 550 after years of juicing. It must really suck to know that you'll never be truly strong. There are natural teenagers stronger than you.hahahahahaha, i bench more than you for reps and i'm almost ten pounds lighter than you, and you don't even deadlift or squat, hahaha, owned!!!!
BTW - that's a 340 bench for 4 reps, at a bodyweight of 235. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha!!!
he was a cop and said he never did roids he just had a good meatbolism...... not all cops take roids only the pro ones ;D (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/juicy6925/ronniecoleman.jpg)
Nope, never said that.
But I go on record to say that no one would have 20" arms or bench 500 WITHOUT steroids.
Bullshit..... gear makes up 15-20% of a total overall development..
Toxy......
Your brain is far from deductive reasoning........
Where in that WHOLE statement did he say he's on the sauce? ? ? nowhere.... your jump to an accusations is a tribute of your desire to not read a statement, deduct logic and reason and come up with an educated opinion.
you need to put the wine bottle down... no matter how hard you try a friend will not appear..
I am a national level bodybuilder
Your have no business with roids.
aww you actually believe you decide what i can do with my body..
cute! :-*
I am a national level bodybuilder, but I am not by any means a "mass monster" I compete as a middleweight/welterweight, and I'm 5'5.... yet people are always walking up asking me questions about steriods.
What if I walked up to every out of shape person in the gym and asked: "do you eat alot of gravy"... oh I'm sorry I just assumed you couldn't get THAT out of shape unless you drank gravy all the time. I would be an asshole right.... or If I walked up to some obviously weak guy who was struggling with minimal weight and asked him if he was talking estrogen pills.... oh I'm sorry I just assumed that you could not have been so weak naturally.
People think that there is nothing more to it than taking a shot in the ass and working out every once in awhile. They don't see competitors doing two hours of cardio 6 days a week or eating 8 meal a day that taste like fucking cardboard or working out to the point of projectile vommiting..I own a personal training studio and work with clients 10-12 hours a day, and then have to get in two hours of cardio+weight training+8 solid meals.
I wake up at 4 a.m. every day and finish my day around 8p.m. The average person could not handle this for 1 week, yet they still assume it's nothing more than taking a little juice that seperates you from them.
So do you suck dick?
all this noise coming from a guy 5'5" 155lbs. with 14 inch arms and 20 inch legs, oh but you're ripped, hahahahahaha, i'm absolutely terrified ::) tell you what PM me, i'm in Missouri not far from you at all, and we'll set up a little "talk", how's that tough guy?
HAHAHAHA I can't get over this NPCOCK. He's 155 on the juice LMAO!!! You were right about the Napolean/little man complex. This guy is a textbook case! I would be angry too if I had to look up at everyone all the time.
He has to look up to the urinal to flush it ;D HAHAHAHAHAHA ;D
Really? So you think the competition-shape Ronnie Coleman (currently at 290 lbs) would weigh 232-247lbs RIPPED without those drugs? You think he could weigh 240 lbs at 5' 9.5" ripped (or if you want to say he'd also need drugs to be ripped, than take his full off-season weight of 310 lbs and say 248 lbs with 10% bodyfat) NATURALLY? Please.
Ronnie is 5'11", and he could easily be a ripped 240 lb without drugs. The guy competed at over 220 lb in drug tested contests.
There never has been anyone 240 lbs ripped as a natural. Ever.
i wouldn't say that tough guy. some tall fruitcakes must have done it
Np cock.....very well thought out..I'm sure it took you all the way through recess to think of that. Since you are so impressive: what was the last contest that you competed in and how did you place? I still hear you talking shit, but have yet to see a pic....Hmmm? I have to train some clients now...you, and your circle jerk buddies on here can fill up a couple more pages with shit talking, without backing up anything..until then have fun kids! O by the way my name is Brenton Robinson. I live in Tulsa Ok. The address to my training studio is 10124 B South Sheridan.....Unlike the rest of you I"m not scared to let people know who I am or where they can find me. I train MMA (Wing Chin, Muay Tai, Kali, BJJ) and I'm sure the guys that I train with put up more of a fight in our pratice drills than some internet nerd could do in an all out fight. Come by and prove me wrong any time... I'm sure I won't even break a sweat. Until then prove me wrong on my first challenge....all of you shit talkers post pictures of yourself....Show us all how superior you are to me. I would finish this little paragraph with something about how you have now been "owned" by me....self proclaimed at that, but frankly that is just gay.
all this noise coming from a guy 5'5" 155lbs. with 14 inch arms and 20 inch legs, oh but you're ripped, hahahahahaha, i'm absolutely terrified ::) tell you what PM me, i'm in Missouri not far from you at all, and we'll set up a little "talk", how's that tough guy?
Don't let your ego hold you back. Ask for advice. Learn from people with more experience than you. Be humble and work your @ss off.
I hardly ever post in this section because 90% of the people who do are not even bodybuilders or people who are interested in bodybuilding...any type of serious thread turns into a bunch of computer nerds talking shit and trying to get people to "meltdown". This is obviously something they spend alot of their time doing by the fact that they have like 2-3 thousand post in a year. Most of these guys haven't been inside some pussy since they were squirted out of one...I'm guessing this by the fact they are posting all day and all night on a "bodybuilding" forum, and the only person who finds this cool is Napoleon Dynamite's brother who also spends most of his time "surfing the net talking to chicks..." If you mention anything about steroids then it just throws fuel on the fire...the nerds come out of the woodwork to talk shit, and then a bunch of other nerds come flying out of nowhere to jump on the bandwagon and ride these guys nuts. The main point in all of these is to make people "meltdown". I have noticed this over the past few weeks when I would read threads on here and realized how pathetic these guys truly are. Within this one thread, and over the course of one day I have accomplished pisssing off and making most of these nerds "meltdown"....simple people are easy to manipulate. I'm even better than you guys at playing your own little computer nerd games...Ha Ha 8)
I hardly ever post in this section because 90% of the people who do are not even bodybuilders or people who are interested in bodybuilding...any type of serious thread turns into a bunch of computer nerds talking shit and trying to get people to "meltdown". This is obviously something they spend alot of their time doing by the fact that they have like 2-3 thousand post in a year. Most of these guys haven't been inside some pussy since they were squirted out of one...I'm guessing this by the fact they are posting all day and all night on a "bodybuilding" forum, and the only person who finds this cool is Napoleon Dynamite's brother who also spends most of his time "surfing the net talking to chicks..." If you mention anything about steroids then it just throws fuel on the fire...the nerds come out of the woodwork to talk shit, and then a bunch of other nerds come flying out of nowhere to jump on the bandwagon and ride these guys nuts. The main point in all of these is to make people "meltdown". I have noticed this over the past few weeks when I would read threads on here and realized how pathetic these guys truly are. Within this one thread, and over the course of one day I have accomplished pisssing off and making most of these nerds "meltdown"....simple people are easy to manipulate. I'm even better than you guys at playing your own little computer nerd games...Ha Ha 8)
Nope, never said that.
But I go on record to say that no one would have 20" arms or bench 500 WITHOUT steroids.
Really? So you think the competition-shape Ronnie Coleman (currently at 290 lbs) would weigh 232-247lbs RIPPED without those drugs? You think he could weigh 240 lbs at 5' 9.5" ripped (or if you want to say he'd also need drugs to be ripped, than take his full off-season weight of 310 lbs and say 248 lbs with 10% bodyfat) NATURALLY? Please.
Man I want to know where all the math comes into affect here? You cannot accuratly equate this @ all....
You take A guy subtract B juice mulitply X then divide = 247lbs natural.... uhhhhhhh ok whatever you all say... ::)
FYI 2/3rd of the human body is water......
nice avatar, dorkeroo! ;D ;D
I hardly ever post in this section because 90% of the people who do are not even bodybuilders or people who are interested in bodybuilding...any type of serious thread turns into a bunch of computer nerds talking shit and trying to get people to "meltdown". This is obviously something they spend alot of their time doing by the fact that they have like 2-3 thousand post in a year. Most of these guys haven't been inside some pussy since they were squirted out of one...I'm guessing this by the fact they are posting all day and all night on a "bodybuilding" forum, and the only person who finds this cool is Napoleon Dynamite's brother who also spends most of his time "surfing the net talking to chicks..." If you mention anything about steroids then it just throws fuel on the fire...the nerds come out of the woodwork to talk shit, and then a bunch of other nerds come flying out of nowhere to jump on the bandwagon and ride these guys nuts. The main point in all of these is to make people "meltdown". I have noticed this over the past few weeks when I would read threads on here and realized how pathetic these guys truly are. Within this one thread, and over the course of one day I have accomplished pisssing off and making most of these nerds "meltdown"....simple people are easy to manipulate. I'm even better than you guys at playing your own little computer nerd games...Ha Ha 8)
Same here. I hate all these clubfags juicing up for the summer. It's these 20something years olds, juiced to the gills to get some chicks that piss me off.
Sounds like My brother.
There never has been anyone 240 lbs ripped as a natural. Ever.
What a joke. There are probably thousands of elite athletes who could walk around ripped at 240 lb if they gave two shits about bodybuilding. Your expectations of what a natural can achieve are skewed because bodybuilding tends to attract the genetic runts who never had any natural size to begin with. There are guys in the NFL who would absolutely destroy you in the weight room without even trying. I'm talking about monsters who can rep 450 on the bench and deadlift 700 without training seriously.
Steroids aren't going to add 80 lb of lean muscle to your frame, 5" to your arms, and 200 lb to your bench press. Guys like Ronnie are naturally big and strong. Brian Dobson said Ronnie already had 20" arms when he joined Metroflex in the late 80's. You could inject 50 grams of test a week and never look half as big as Ronnie.
One rude question suckas are always asking me is how I gained such incredible size, and I'm all like "f**cker can't you see I'm tryin' to bench 600 here. Back the f**k off."
hahah You sound like a real monster "Dorian 01" hahaahYou know it, dude. Keepin' it real.
So wait - NPCOK takes mass amounts of steroids and has the AUDACITY to complain when people ask him about it? >:(
I only follow the heavyweights.is there any other class? ;D