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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bluto on July 16, 2006, 02:30:12 PM
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"If I was a betting man I'd say it's a battle between Adonis and Bast for first. Based on what I've seen anyway. Bast is ripped, Adonis has almost pro-size mass. If he juiced he'd definately turn pro." - Oliver Klaushof
Discuss.
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Has he been drinking some of Vince's Kool-aid? ::)
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Bast has far better genetics than Adonis - better shape, fuller muscle bellies, smaller joints, etc..
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Has he been drinking some of Vince's Kool-aid? ::)
I bet he had some bee-pollen with that as well, whatever it is he's hallucinating.
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I think there are a LOT of delusional people on this board, with more than one handle. It is a fun place mostly because of that I think. Adonis, if he is 240ish, is a big guy, but, once ripped, he won't be much more than 200. At 5'10", Ronnie is about 280lbs contest. Seems to be a bit of a difference I think, but what do I know :-X
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I used to think going down to the Y board was a waste of time, but once in a while, you find gems like this and it's all worth it ;D
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bast def has better genetics. adonis is strong. v strong espec in dead. bench is goof despite weird arms. he has great biceps. poor forearms and tris. he will look better when he fills out more despite awkward frame.
and he looks small at 240. not beoing disrespectful tho ive seen ppl at 200 5'10ish who look just as big.
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bast def has better genetics. adonis is strong. v strong espec in dead. bench is goof despite weird arms. he has great biceps. poor forearms and tris. he will look better when he fills out more despite awkward frame.
and he looks small at 240. not beoing disrespectful tho ive seen ppl at 200 5'10ish who look just as big.
So you don't think Adonis has pro-size mass? Hater :P
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The funny thing is, I drop these little quotes on purpose knowing Bluto will get a little hard on and make a big deal about it. He's a Jerry's kid.
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The funny thing is, I drop these little quotes on purpose knowing Bluto will get a little hard on and make a big deal about it. He's a Jerry's kid.
Of course you do. ::)
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only thing pro size on adonis is his ego
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Of course you do. ::)
Yes I do!
You follow the squad like an obsessed stalker.
Very predictable.
I was laughing as I typed that because I knew exactly what you would do.
It's not really an exaggeration though. I've seen the pics of Adonis standing next to Ronnie. As a natural, it's amazing how well he holds his own with the best in the world.
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I don't know where you guys live and train, but if Adam lived in my town he would make the majority of men, even juiced trainers, look like bitches.
I guess if you live in a big city you will see naturals his size more frequently, not in my city though (population around 125,000).
Translation: "my mouth waters at the sight of his ALMOST PRO-SIZE MASS!"
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Yes I do!
You follow the squad like an obsessed stalker.
Very predictable.
I was laughing as I typed that because I knew exactly what you would do.
It's not really an exaggeration though. I've seen the pics of Adonis standing next to Ronnie. As a natural, it's amazing how well he holds his own with the best in the world.
Adonis holding his own with Ronnie Coleman? Keep the quotes coming, there's enough material in there for next week as well! ;D
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I think there are a LOT of delusional people on this board, with more than one handle. It is a fun place mostly because of that I think. Adonis, if he is 240ish, is a big guy, but, once ripped, he won't be much more than 200. At 5'10", Ronnie is about 280lbs contest. Seems to be a bit of a difference I think, but what do I know :-X
Adonis says he is 5'11". So if his contest weight is 200lbs that is a good size but it is about 70lbs off from what pro's weigh at that height
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bast def has better genetics. adonis is strong. v strong espec in dead. bench is goof despite weird arms. he has great biceps. poor forearms and tris. he will look better when he fills out more despite awkward frame.
and he looks small at 240. not beoing disrespectful tho ive seen ppl at 200 5'10ish who look just as big.
I have already proved that your Tris have Zero shape. Give it up. Everyone else agreed on the FAO thread in the picture board.
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who all agreed. mine have better shape. in ur fuckin naked fotos u showed no tri size at all. and ur arms looked no where near 20" u claim.
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fuckin naked fotos? What have I been missing here...
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fuckin naked fotos? What have I been missing here...
Like I said, he has a hard on for the squad ;D
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fuckin naked fotos? What have I been missing here...
picture board. ironage thread bt tranny lover. hes naked in them. hes a bender
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I don't know where you guys live and train, but if Adam lived in my town he would make the majority of men, even juiced trainers, look like bitches.
I guess if you live in a big city you will see naturals his size more frequently, not in my city though (population around 125,000).
Are you smoking pot again, Matt? ???
You seem to be a level-headed fellow. In other posts you acknowledge the fact that a juiced-up BBer enjoys a huge advantage over even the hardest-training natural.
Simple logic says you must think True Adonis, who alleges he is natural, is tremendously genetically gifted, then. One can, after all, only train so hard :) Genetics would have to make up the difference!
Looking at his pics...I'm sorry, but I do not see such giftedness. In some shots he looks good to me, but putting the majority of BBers, including juicers, in a town of 100k plus to shame? ::)
I'm curious to see some proof of that. I've seen perhaps two shots of the kid taken straight-on. One MM looked good -- not contest-ready by far, but solid, lean and reasonably thick. However, it was also from the midriff up IIRC.
All the other pics were taken at bizarre angles, were blurry or showed him clothed. I've seen no reason whatsoever to consider him more than modestly gifted at best -- perhaps a 6 on a scale of 10. And that's assuming his wheels match his upper body, which is lacking in some areas itself (triceps, forearms, upper chest).
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I gotta tell you, in that pic next to Coleman, TA didn't look like a kid. Ronnie dwarfs a lot of people. I know he has some lankiness, but by the time he's 26-27, TA will be about as good as any pure natural out there.
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picture board. ironage thread bt tranny lover. hes naked in them. hes a bender
Haha you serious? Haha I found it, what the fuck man!
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I don't know where you guys live and train, but if Adam lived in my town he would make the majority of men, even juiced trainers, look like bitches.
I guess if you live in a big city you will see naturals his size more frequently, not in my city though (population around 125,000).
You live in Ethiopia?
YIP
Zack
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I don't know where you guys live and train, but if Adam lived in my town he would make the majority of men, even juiced trainers, look like bitches.
I guess if you live in a big city you will see naturals his size more frequently, not in my city though (population around 125,000).
240 at 5'11' is just not that big, sorry to burst your bubble. At that weight he isn't in any kind of "pro" shape. What is so hard to understand that pros have a different level of condition, and that at 5'11', he would have to weigh at least 270lbs to be pro size; and that is competition weight, not offseason where they are at least 300lbs for the most part at that height. The nut hugging here is ridiculous. 240 at 5'11' is a big guy, but nothing special considering his condition at that weight.
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240 at 5'11' is just not that big, sorry to burst your bubble. At that weight he isn't in any kind of "pro" shape. What is so hard to understand that pros have a different level of condition, and that at 5'11', he would have to weigh at least 270lbs to be pro size and that is competition weight, not offseason where they are at least 300lbs for the most part at that height. The nut hugging here is ridiculous. 240 at 5'11' is a big guy, but nothing special considering his condition at that weight.
::)
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240 lbs? LMAO hahahah....
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it was identified that that ronnie pic with the tranny was photoshopped. am i incorrect. i think it was proved
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(http://C:\Documents and Settings\Robyn\My Documents\My Pictures\190_9094_2.jpg)
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it was identified that that ronnie pic with the tranny was photoshopped. am i incorrect. i think it was proved
I thought the same thing actually.
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it was identified that that ronnie pic with the tranny was photoshopped. am i incorrect. i think it was proved
Any photo that I post is not photoshopped.
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Any photo that I post is not photoshopped.
You tell them (and me) man!! >:(
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My training partner is 5'11 and 1/2, 200 pounds at a similar condition as Adam and he squats 470, leg presses around 1,500, benches 315 and deadlifts 405 and he's always getting stares doing this, especially the leg press where he loads the machine to the max and also places an olympic bar on it with two plates per side.
I think it's safe to say that 40 pounds heavier than this and 1/2 inch shorter in height is considered "big".
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/IMGP5026_small.JPG)
He has a good build, but again, nothing professional quality. I am not saying 240 at 5'11" is nothing, just not pro material. You truly think that either are?
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So it went from "almost pro-size mass" to "big" now?
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FAO all MD columists. can you makle an ass outta this guy who constantly rips you apart and critices bbuilding. he says hes a big as ronnie. the best natural on the planet etc. hes a tool.
ta is pro sized
for 5'4
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FAO all MD columists. can you makle an ass outta this guy who constantly rips you apart and critices bbuilding. he says hes a big as ronnie. the best natural on the planet etc. hes a tool.
ta is pro sized
for 5'4
M E L T D O W N.
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FAO all MD columists. can you makle an ass outta this guy who constantly rips you apart and critices bbuilding. he says hes a big as ronnie. the best natural on the planet etc. hes a tool.
ta is pro sized
for 5'4
Just big now, and turns heads. Now to explain why people have oily pics of their training partners... :-X :P
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M E L T D O W N.
Nope.
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The funny thing is, Adonis is 240 pounds without juice.
It's not unreasonable to think he would put on an additional 40 pounds of muscle if he was taking a pro size stack.
That would put him around 280 contest.
Look how much size Tom Prince and Titus lost when they went off.
Definitely possible.
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Think this is the photo where he's rubbing chests with Ronnie
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42976.0;attach=44292;image)
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The funny thing is, Adonis is 240 pounds without juice.
It's not unreasonable to think he would put on an additional 40 pounds of muscle if he was taking a pro size stack.
That would put him around 280 contest.
Look how much size Tom Prince and Titus lost when they went off.
Definitely possible.
So now it is about later? After juice? Can we have one argument? First it was to get Bluto mad, now it is this? This is stupid.
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The funny thing is, Adonis is 240 pounds without juice.
It's not unreasonable to think he would put on an additional 40 pounds of muscle if he was taking a pro size stack.
That would put him around 280 contest.
Look how much size Tom Prince and Titus lost when they went off.
Definitely possible.
TA is 240 in contest shape? if not, he can't be 280 contest with an additonal 40 pounds of muscle.
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So now it is about later? After juice? Can we have one argument? First it was to get Bluto mad, now it is this? This is stupid.
I don't really understand what you're talking about lol.
Do you?
Go back and read my original quote and don't put words in my mouth.
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I don't really understand what you're talking about lol.
Do you?
Go back and read my original quote and don't put words in my mouth.
I didn't put words in your mouth man. You said earlier that you had posted that to aggravate Bluto. Now you are taking the thing seriously, and think that on juice Adonis would be competitive. I don't understand the flip flopping, and if I misunderstood, I am sorry, but, I thought that was what I read.
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browse through that thread i bumped. i think its around page 6-8 sumone shows its shopped or modified
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No...pro size is a bit of a stretch. You have to give credit where credit is due though, he's no slouch at 240 and relatively lean, even at his height. If he juiced and had a good response I would say he could become big by any standard.
If the Ronnie pic is not photoshopped, it definitely shows that Adam (while not as big as Ronnie) isn't exactly being dwarfed by him.
;D
Posing practice, since he's considering doing a show next year if he can put on some more size.
Never said 240 at 5'11" wasn't big, just said to say it was pro level was inaccurate.
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I didn't put words in your mouth man. You said earlier that you had posted that to aggravate Bluto. Now you are taking the thing seriously, and think that on juice Adonis would be competitive. I don't understand the flip flopping, and if I misunderstood, I am sorry, but, I thought that was what I read.
He's trying to battle me without giving up brownnosing TA, it's a tough task.
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browse through that thread i bumped. i think its around page 6-8 sumone shows its shopped or modified
Goudy,
I got his autograph when I met Ronnie. So did "Jezebelle". She took the picture of Ronnie and I...
You are making yourself look bad....I don`t want you as a judge because I think you will just say that everything is photoshopped....I am going to ask that you be removed.
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I didn't put words in your mouth man. You said earlier that you had posted that to aggravate Bluto. Now you are taking the thing seriously, and think that on juice Adonis would be competitive. I don't understand the flip flopping, and if I misunderstood, I am sorry, but, I thought that was what I read.
You don't understand it because it doesn't exist.
It's true, I was serious when I said Adonis could turn pro if he juiced.
I think it's very possible anyway.
I would not have stated my opinion publicly however, if I didn't know for sure Bluto would latch on to it and have a spaz attack.
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As for the photo of him and Ronnie, doesn't have to be 'shopped, there can be a number of reasons a photo isn't telling the truth... but let's say it is, then it would be closer to TA dwarfing Ronnie than the other way around ::)
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You don't understand it because it doesn't exist.
It's true, I was serious when I said Adonis could turn pro if he juiced.
I think it's very possible anyway.
I would not have stated my opinion publicly however, if I didn't know for sure Bluto would latch on to it and have a spaz attack.
You know what? I just read some really stupid stuff in that other thread about the photoshopping and I give up lol its all yours. I am going to go find a Vince thread or something ;D
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You don't understand it because it doesn't exist.
It's true, I was serious when I said Adonis could turn pro if he juiced.
I think it's very possible anyway.
I would not have stated my opinion publicly however, if I didn't know for sure Bluto would latch on to it and have a spaz attack.
Bullshit attempt to save face, I hardly spend any time on the Y board, and I'm sure as hell has not made it a habit to go look for quoting material in there.
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The other thing you junior achievers don't get (Perhaps you failed reading comprehension?)
I didn't say Adonis HAS pro size mass, I said ALMOST. Almost is a vague term.
Like I said, don't start putting words in my mouth.
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Bullshit attempt to save face, I hardly spend any time on the Y board, and I'm sure as hell has not made it a habit to go look for quoting material in there.
waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa hahahahaha
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(http://www.columbia.edu/cu/humanrights/filmseries/2004/fs-denial-bt.gif)
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Ronnie has massive amounts of muscle but the guy is a shorty (to me at least - i'm 6'3 and a half) and has a really small head so the photo might be real.
Adonis is a big kid. The tris need to come up. might benefit from lighter weight, higher reps and drop sets...
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Adonis reminds me of a shittier Mike Katz. Big chest, shitty arms, and tons of imbalance on a linebacker's frame.
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The other thing you junior achievers don't get (Perhaps you failed reading comprehension?)
I didn't say Adonis HAS pro size mass, I said ALMOST. Almost is a vague term.
Like I said, don't start putting words in my mouth.
If it's so vague, how is anyone strawmandering you, dood? ???
You know full well how "almost pro-size mass" will be interpreted: freakishly large. Anyone can play bullshit semantics games and say "pro-sized" includes Kenny Jones, but come on ::)
I'd sure like to see where any natural on here, nevermind True, has IFBB-competitive level mass. I've seen one pic of Adonis in good shape at an alleged 180-something. It was still not contest condition; and at his claimed height, his 8ish percent physique was nowhere near the pro level. That shape was middleweight lv. 2 NPC size at best, and even then his physique had too many weaknesses to place well.
Let's see the standard BBing poses in the Mr. Getbig, when everyone's supposed to be in shape and no dumbassed angles can hide glaring deficiencies. Then people can talk about natural physiques of "almost," "near" or "if juiced, would, perhaps, one day approach" pro level mass ::)
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"Almost" means "almost."
MattC understands.
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If it's so vague, how is anyone strawmandering you, dood? ???
You know full well how "almost pro-size mass" will be interpreted: freakishly large. Anyone can play bullshit semantics games and say "pro-sized" includes Kenny Jones, but come on ::)
I'd sure like to see where any natural on here, nevermind True, has IFBB-competitive level mass. I've seen one pic of Adonis in good shape at an alleged 180-something. It was still not contest condition; and at his claimed height, his 8ish percent physique was nowhere near the pro level. That shape was middleweight lv. 2 NPC size at best, and even then his physique had too many weaknesses to place well.
Let's see the standard BBing poses in the Mr. Getbig, when everyone's supposed to be in shape and no dumbassed angles can hide glaring deficiencies. Then people can talk about natural physiques of "almost," "near" or "if juiced, would, perhaps, one day approach" pro level mass ::)
Well put. I don't think any actual thought went into Oliver's comment on TA, he was just caught brownnosing and kissing up.
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"Almost" means "almost."
MattC understands.
Don't be a fence-sitter. Say what you mean. I've read your posts. Semantics-whoring is below you, man.
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Bluto are you even comparable?
If I ever juiced I would easily be a pros size. Its not that hard to see that. hahahahah
(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/190_9094_2.JPG)
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Don't be a fence-sitter. Say what you mean. I've read your posts. Semantics-whoring is below you, man.
I'm not really into arguing it, because the sole purpose of making that post was to aggravate "Bluto." I have succeeded.
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I'm not really into arguing it, because the sole purpose of making that post was to aggravate "Bluto." I have succeeded.
You've aggravated noone, and everytime you open up your mouth, on purpose or not, you give people future quoting material (like you did when you brought up the photo of Ronnie Coleman)
Don't be a stranger to this board, the heart of Getbig, feel free to come out of the shadows of the Y board and the "natty" and entertain us anytime :D
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You've aggravated noone, and everytime you open up your mouth, on purpose or not, you give people future quoting material (like you did when you brought up the photo of Ronnie Coleman)
Don't be a stranger to this board, the heart of Getbig, feel free to come out of the shadows of the Y board and the "natty" and entertain us anytime :D
Bluto, what are your stats?
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Bluto are you even comparable?
If I ever juiced I would easily be a pros size. Its not that hard to see that. hahahahah
(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/190_9094_2.JPG)
How can anyone doubt that? Some people (Oliver Klaushof) says you're holding your own to Ronnie Coleman allready, just think about how you could dwarf him if you were on the juice?
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How can anyone doubt that? Some people (Oliver Klaushof) says you're holding your own to Ronnie Coleman allready, just think about how you could dwarf him if you were on the juice?
I dwarf you :)
How does that make you feel?
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Bluto, what are your stats?
I'll tell you this much, nobody ever said I hold my own to Ronnie Coleman >:(
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Massive stretch of the definition of "almost".
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"If I was a betting man I'd say it's a battle between Adonis and Bast for first. Based on what I've seen anyway. Bast is ripped, Adonis has almost pro-size mass. If he juiced he'd definately turn pro." - Oliver Klaushof
Discuss.
Oliver is out of his mind! PRO LMFAO ahahahaa
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I dwarf you :)
How does that make you feel?
Gotta dwell on that for a minute... I tell you tomorrow when it dawned on me!
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I'll tell you this much, nobody ever said I hold my own to Ronnie Coleman >:(
Nor will they ever!
hahah
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Nor will they ever!
hahah
True.
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Nor will they ever!
hahah
hahahaha
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like i said months ago,there are guys on getbig that are awesome but just aint into the postin picture thing,id bet there are guys here that look like pro bodybuilders but they just never post their pics,beleive that
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5'11" @ 240 can be pro level, especially sporting 4-6% bf.
Schwarzenegger was taller with the same figures.
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My training partner is 5'11 and 1/2, 200 pounds at a similar condition as Adam and he squats 470, leg presses around 1,500, benches 315 and deadlifts 405 and he's always getting stares doing this, especially the leg press where he loads the machine to the max and also places an olympic bar on it with two plates per side.
I think it's safe to say that 40 pounds heavier than this and 1/2 inch shorter in height is considered "big".
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/IMGP5026_small.JPG)
hes not big, or strong....maybe at 15 he would be impressive ::)
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imho, its hard bc no one really posts good shots of themsleves out of the group. None have ever posted a leg shot..ever..from pics though Bast and GOudy are def better than TA, imho. Never seen a front doube bicep pic, or nothng TA!
Am I the breavest only to post a leg pic?Right now conditioning is the only thing holding me back from breaking this thing open. imho.
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In his "IronAge" thread, Adonis said that 25 lb would be 13% of his current bodyweight. Dividing 25 by 0.13 gives a bodyweight of 192 lb. That means he might weigh around 170-180 lb in contest shape. Most people on this board exaggerate the importance of bodyweight, but Adonis isn't even close to being a top natural, much less a pro bodybuilder.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82189.msg1170593#msg1170593
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You don't understand it because it doesn't exist.
It's true, I was serious when I said Adonis could turn pro if he juiced.
I think it's very possible anyway.
I would not have stated my opinion publicly however, if I didn't know for sure Bluto would latch on to it and have a spaz attack.
Thats so retarted. He would be pro if he juiced ? omg..thats absurd man..totally..
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imho, its hard bc no one really posts good shots of themsleves out of the group. None have ever posted a leg shot..ever..from pics though Bast and GOudy are def better than TA, imho. Never seen a front doube bicep pic, or nothng TA!
Am I the breavest only to post a leg pic?Right now conditioning is the only thing holding me back from breaking this thing open. imho.
(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/190_9094_2.JPG)
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ive seen guys that looked pretty good as naturals go on the juice and guess what?not much changed at all,not everyones receptors are gonna work well with steroids,im not an expert or anything and i dont have a great build or anything but ive been in the game for 30 years now to know how it works,it doesnt take a genius to figure this sport out.either you have it or you dont,guys like ronnie and jay have it,most of us dont
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Adonis is like Alexxx, he knows he's not really impressive, he just like to get a rise out of people, there is no way he will place in the top 10.
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Adam. What are your arms taping out at? Looking big. I might enter this thing lol. 210 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal :o
Guys. I got nothing against any of ya. Adonis is pretty impressive in those shots considering he is a natty. Not as impressive as some think but impressive non the less. Goudy has good genetics. Adonis has good genetics as well as bast.
If any of those 3 went on serious competition cycles they would be monsters. i do not juice myself but most all the guys i train with do. Most all the national level guys I have hung around with or trained with had about the size and shape ( in one form or another) as one of these cats before they started juicing.
Either way none of em got pro level size. But for nattys they are very good.
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"If I was a betting man I'd say it's a battle between Adonis and Bast for first. Based on what I've seen anyway. Bast is ripped, Adonis has almost pro-size mass. If he juiced he'd definately turn pro." - Oliver Klaushof
Discuss.
i guess this guy has not met any pro bodybuilders ::)
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nothin wrong with havin a dream,but dreamin of bein a pro bodybuilder wouldnt be mine in this day and age.first off i know i dont have the genetics and money to try it,plus the age factor would hurt me also.to be honest i just really use weight training as therapy everymorning to help me feel good throughout the day,it releives stress and helps me cope with the everyday bullshit.i just love the feelin of me pushin and pullin that heavy iron and the great satisfying feelin you have when your done and leavin the gym,it keeps me in a very positive frame of mind
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Adam. What are your arms taping out at? Looking big. I might enter this thing lol. 210 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal :o
Guys. I got nothing against any of ya. Adonis is pretty impressive in those shots considering he is a natty. Not as impressive as some think but impressive non the less. Goudy has good genetics. Adonis has good genetics as well as bast.
If any of those 3 went on serious competition cycles they would be monsters. i do not juice myself but most all the guys i train with do. Most all the national level guys I have hung around with or trained with had about the size and shape ( in one form or another) as one of these cats before they started juicing.
Either way none of em got pro level size. But for nattys they are very good.
you have excellent points,the only thing is not everyone responds to heavy juice cycles,maybe they will and like you said they would probably look great but theres really no way to tell other then to do the heavy cycle,ive seen a guy use tons of juice and get little out of it while my buddy use very tiny amounts and grew like a weed
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If adonis has always been natural up until now then even 1-2 anapolon a day would put some serious size on him real quick.
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you have excellent points,the only thing is not everyone responds to heavy juice cycles,maybe they will and like you said they would probably look great but theres really no way to tell other then to do the heavy cycle,ive seen a guy use tons of juice and get little out of it while my buddy use very tiny amounts and grew like a weed
A very true statement mang. I do see your point. By the looks of the three of them clean I would assume they would be houses on the sauce.
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adonis will beat me on legs and back for sure.
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A very true statement mang. I do see your point. By the looks of the three of them clean I would assume they would be houses on the sauce.
i agree,id say 8 out of 10 guys respond really well to a nice cycle
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Adonis, I don't know how your receptors would respond to a cycle so I can't make that call of "turning pro if you juiced," but for a natty you are damn impressive. Thick arms and chest. Good taper with a small waist. I could care less about your feuds with Bluto, Goudy etc. You look good and if you did cycle, I believe Oliver (first time ever) that you could easily gain 30-40 pounds. However, I have known guys who juiced who actually looked worst after juicing as they held onto so much water. Goudy is a big dude too. The Mr. GetBig could be PPV soon. ;D
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BTW, there was a really impressive dude (actually lighter in bodyweight) who should compete. I think his moniker was "Mesomorph something." Is he in the show?
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Has he been drinking some of Vince's AIDS? ::)
Goat,
That was just wrong man.
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hes not big, or strong....maybe at 15 he would be impressive ::)
And he has a really wide waist. Looks wider than his chest.
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Adonis is no where near pro level. I assume it must have been a joke? He looks pretty good for a kid that trains occaisionaly. Needs to work on his sunken chest though.
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I don't know where you guys live and train, but if Adam lived in my town he would make the majority of men, even juiced trainers, look like bitches.
I guess if you live in a big city you will see naturals his size more frequently, not in my city though (population around 125,000).
I tell ya, he would certainly stand out in my gym, what with his 'Member's Only' workout gear and his retinue of applauding trannies. Monster attention would have to be paid. ;D
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" Adonis has almost pro-size mass. If he juiced he'd definately turn pro." - Oliver Klaushof
Discuss.
Haha, who would write this? Turning pro is like the hardest thing ever, being big is not the half of it, you need structural advantages Adonis will never have. Big lad though.
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BTW, there was a really impressive dude (actually lighter in bodyweight) who should compete. I think his moniker was "Mesomorph something." Is he in the show?
I know who you mean. Hopefully he'll compete. I'm sure there's a bunch of people lurking that will come up and place well in the last minutes. Even people that haven't had one picture up before but would want to take a shot at the prizes. A lot of people are in shape this time of the year anyway.
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In his "IronAge" thread, Adonis said that 25 lb would be 13% of his current bodyweight. Dividing 25 by 0.13 gives a bodyweight of 192 lb. That means he might weigh around 170-180 lb in contest shape. Most people on this board exaggerate the importance of bodyweight, but Adonis isn't even close to being a top natural, much less a pro bodybuilder.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82189.msg1170593#msg1170593
I've seen average Gym rats who looks way better than that
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Eugene Sandow would destroy Adonis in prejudging...
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I hope everyone realizes this thread is a joke because if anyone actually believes TA has "good genetics" or is near "pro size" or is "holding his own next to Coleman" then they need a bit of professional help because they're hallucinating.
I don't think mental illness is that prevalent on this board so I'm guessing everyone is just joking around.
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I hope everyone realizes this thread is a joke because if anyone actually believes TA has "good genetics" or is near "pro size" or is "holding his own next to Coleman" then they need a bit of professional help because they're hallucinating.
I don't think mental illness is that prevalent on this board so I'm guessing everyone is just joking around.
I destroy you...Post a pic and prove me wrong....You won`t.
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I destroy you...Post a pic and prove me wrong....You won`t.
Adonis, what does your legs and back look like ???? I hope you dont think that your going to win the contest with some so-so biceps...
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Adonis, what does your legs and back look like ???? I hope you dont think that your going to win the contest with some so-so biceps...
Legs and back are by far my best parts.
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Legs and back are by far my best parts.
prove him wrong Adonis....give him a wheel shot!!
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I destroy you...Post a pic and prove me wrong....You won`t.
these guys may have bigger ears than you?
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I destroy you...Post a pic and prove me wrong....You won`t.
I love it, you've melted down to such a degree that you're now using the "post a picture or shut up" defense.
LOL
You destroy nothing except your own credibility. You're a joke, you look like a hobbit and you have the genetics of an ant, thick torso and small limbs. Not to mention you're such a poor debater that Chick made you look like a fool. Chick never makes anyone look like a fool other than himself.
All you post are moronic poses designed to make you look better and of course you sport the stupidest hairdo since man decided to walk upright.
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prove him wrong Adonis....give him a wheel shot!!
I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for those.
these guys may have bigger ears than you?
Perhaps but they also have better genetics than TA.
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I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for those.
Im trying to encourage him :)
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these guys may have bigger ears than you?
which one of those guys are you blowing danielson?
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which one of those guys are you blowing danielson?
a "gay trainer" making gay jokes?
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a "gay trainer" making gay jokes?
I wasnt joking....which one of those guys are you blowing?
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I love it, you've melted down to such a degree that you're now using the "post a picture or shut up" defense.
LOL
You destroy nothing except your own credibility. You're a joke, you look like a hobbit and you have the genetics of an ant, thick torso and small limbs. Not to mention you're such a poor debater that Chick made you look like a fool. Chick never makes anyone look like a fool other than himself.
All you post are moronic poses designed to make you look better and of course you sport the stupidest hairdo since man decided to walk upright.
M e l t D o w n! ! !
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M e l t D o w n! ! !
Monster deflection of your own "post a pic or shutup" meltdown.
By the way, how's that whole bet with Chick going?
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;D
veryfunny thread
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ya funny enough i had to finally talk. this is some funny stuff. ;D
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Monster deflection of your own "post a pic or shutup" meltdown.
By the way, how's that whole bet with Chick going?
Are you suggesting that TA backed out of the $1000 bet he made with Bob Cicherillo about Tom Princess weighing 230 lbs?
YIP
Zack
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Are you suggesting that TA backed out of the $1000 bet he made with Bob Cicherillo about Tom Princess weighing 230 lbs?
YIP
Zack
I was under the impression it was $10,000. I'm saying that Getbig's very own delusional TA has a history of starting big money bets and then finding a way to back out of them.
Didn't he just offer a bet to some female bodybuilder about her squat claims?
By the way, have you seen the hairdo this tool sports?
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Interesting thread. Inaccurate assessment in the title.
No good leg shots posted. Adonis, put up a leg shot and at a normal straight on angle.
The pic with ronnie is just weird. Adonis is standing closer to the camera compared to Ronnie, flexing his arm, wearing a shirt with his own name on it, inflating his chest and oddly pushing closely into the champ.
Adonis looks pretty good overall. I give him credit. He'd get more respect if he toned down the ego though. For BBing competitions, adonis has long lankier limbs. No way in hell his arms are 20". Good biceps but weak triceps and forearms. Lots of naturals look as good and better. Still, he has a pretty good physique. Just honest assessment.
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I was under the impression it was $10,000. I'm saying that Getbig's very own delusional TA has a history of starting big money bets and then finding a way to back out of them.
It was $10 000. You're correct, my bad.
YIP
Zack
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what is wrong with everyone, adonis looks good, but nothing close to pro material and he wouldn't be, im a natural and bigger in the chest and back then him, he does have good biceps but very weak forearms and tri's, and his back sucks, were are the leg shots. in all i would say he is ok but bast has better genetics and structure.
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All you post are moronic poses designed to make you look better and of course you sport the stupidest hairdo since man decided to walk upright.
Hehe. This is a good line. :D
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Adonis is like a sled after snowfall....
All white with no wheels or back to it....
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Adonis is like a sled after snowfall....
All white with no wheels or back to it....
hahhah thats what you think.....
The second owning of all will be revealed soon enough.
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hahhah thats what you think.....
The second owning of all will be revealed soon enough.
when was the first?
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when was the first?
hahahahaha
Monster Skipping a Step
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what is wrong with everyone, adonis looks good, but nothing close to pro material and he wouldn't be, im a natural and bigger in the chest and back then him, he does have good biceps but very weak forearms and tri's, and his back sucks, were are the leg shots. in all i would say he is ok but bast has better genetics and structure.
you should compete in mr getbig, adonis expect to win, so you should at least place. easy money
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Adonis is no where near pro level. I assume it must have been a joke? He looks pretty good for a kid that trains occaisionaly. Needs to work on his sunken chest though.
You're still around?
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Goudy,
I got his autograph when I met Ronnie. So did "Jezebelle". She took the picture of Ronnie and I...
You are making yourself look bad....I don`t want you as a judge because I think you will just say that everything is photoshopped....I am going to ask that you be removed.
o i know u def met him. thats not being debated. all i sed was i thought it was brought to attention it was shopped. sumone agreed saying they thought the same.
you dont get to pick the judges. i will def be fair man.
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o i know u def met him. thats not being debated. all i sed was i thought it was brought to attention it was shopped. sumone agreed saying they thought the same.
you dont get to pick the judges. i will def be fair man.
Fair enough.
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here is my honest assesment based on what i have seen of you TA.
i have sed numerous times u cary more muscle are are stronger than me.
back-big, great lats, strong in sum fotos lacked thickness. never seen back dbl bi
legs- only seen one pic ages ago. looked pretty good.
chest-bit flat. you have big ribcage when u get it thick will look good.
bis- very good. great peak. some pics i hjave seen ive seen a visible split
tris- relatively weak in proportion to bis. maybe due to long arms
forearms- weak.
shoulders-good.
ur against other naturals so will be good to see. compared to juicers ur eclipsed at times-thats reasonable tho in naturals u are very very good indeed. awkward structure tho thats way u are
u are lean. will be interesting. id be ointerested to see how bast turns up and id love to see meso compete. he wudnt ned to diet. guy is shredded year round.
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What does Meso's legs look like ??
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lots of bones covered by muscles and skin i assume.
he squats 405 ass to grass froa couple
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What does Meso's legs look like ??
He doesn`t have any....He said he just now started training them.
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here is my honest assesment based on what i have seen of you TA.
i have sed numerous times u cary more muscle are are stronger than me.
back-big, great lats, strong in sum fotos lacked thickness. never seen back dbl bi
legs- only seen one pic ages ago. looked pretty good.
chest-bit flat. you have big ribcage when u get it thick will look good.
bis- very good. great peak. some pics i hjave seen ive seen a visible split
tris- relatively weak in proportion to bis. maybe due to long arms
forearms- weak.
shoulders-good.
ur against other naturals so will be good to see. compared to juicers ur eclipsed at times-thats reasonable tho in naturals u are very very good indeed. awkward structure tho thats way u are
u are lean. will be interesting. id be ointerested to see how bast turns up and id love to see meso compete. he wudnt ned to diet. guy is shredded year round.
Well I was hoping you were going to do this thing too. I have said before that you are one of the better naturals on the board. 2007 Mr Getbig?
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2007 will be my year lol. i bring up upper chest with incline for first time. legs coming nicely. should be maybe 230 this time next year just as lean
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No offense but I think that someone like goudy has some mass but without conditioning will look like a boulder in the midst of statues. Nevertheless... I know that the natural competetors will not be WOWing anyone with mindblowing mass, its all a bout conditioning boys ..plainand simple
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2007 will be my year lol. i bring up upper chest with incline for first time. legs coming nicely. should be maybe 230 this time next year just as lean
Can we get your take on wheter or not "The Beast" can squat 325 for 3 or 315?
What do you think.
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maybe to parallel or slightly above. ive seen crazier things. you know urself ppl called bullshit on ur 600lb dead. ppl thought was impossible. perhaps same with her.
id like to think she can. too many ppl limilted by negativity. based on reason i doubt it was parallel or below. maybe slightly above.
look forward to be proved wrong.
jarjonna oi have full abs and visible serratus. ive great conditioning. not contest ready now tho maybe 9-11%
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i'd like to see 1 picture of goudys lower body posted for every 50th he posts of his upper body
thanks.
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i'd like to see 1 picture of goudys lower body posted for every 50th he posts of his upper body
thanks.
I bet you would, fruitcake. ;D
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I bet you would, fruitcake. ;D
:P
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lol. ive posted 3 leg pics taken 4 weeks apart. noticeable diff. check my thread in natural section
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lol. ive posted 3 leg pics taken 4 weeks apart. noticeable diff. check my thread in natural section
Goudy, Bluto wants to see your "lower body." :-\
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=62244.0;attach=78104;image)
some would probably say your upper body overpowers your lower body
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i know. wat a bender.
this for the non homosexuals. definate growth, it was actually 7 weeks and yes they are still ballics
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=62244.25
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what is wrong with everyone, adonis looks good, but nothing close to pro material and he wouldn't be, im a natural and bigger in the chest and back then him, he does have good biceps but very weak forearms and tri's, and his back sucks, were are the leg shots. in all i would say he is ok but bast has better genetics and structure.
hahhaha Adonis' back and legs are by far his strongest and best bodyparts. You will see.
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hahhaha Adonis' back and legs are by far his strongest and best bodyparts. You will see.
::)
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hahhaha Adonis' back and legs are by far his strongest and best bodyparts. You will see.
Uh oh, here comes the pretend girlfriend to defend her pretend man.
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;D
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::)
look at the his left gyno popping, adonis, are you on something? ;D
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Adonis is a blonde aryan superman!
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Adonis is a blonde aryan superman!
I am not sure I like your name. Friend or foe?
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I am not sure I like your name. Friend or foe?
I'm a black belt in shotokan style karate-do.
You?
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I'm a black belt in shotokan style karate-do.
You?
tae kwon do. I practice many martial arts, but I have been involved in tkd for 24 years. i was just messin with you about your name, I just never noticed you before.
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I have a blue belt but could destroy any martial artist.
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I have a blue belt but could destroy any martial artist.
Yeah, canadians are realy tuff ::)
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::)
Bi looks decent but usually you can see some musculature of the back and I don't see any really impressive musculature, if it's your best bodypart it should be standing out alot more...really don't see any hamstring size either...funny how it's cut off at the calf...
constructive critisism...not even trying to be a dick..TA, you need to learn how to hit your shots right...that front double bi from a couple of pages ago was totally wrong....
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I have a blue belt but could destroy any martial artist.
you mean you have a blue "boy" not belt..c'mon alexxxx you already said you've never been in a fight and the one time you got into a tussle you threw the ever so popular "headlock" on the guy....
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you mean you have a blue "boy" not belt..c'mon alexxxx you already said you've never been in a fight and the one time you got into a tussle you threw the ever so popular "headlock" on the guy....
hahaha bro honestly I am not a man to be taking littly in a fight. I have an extensive background in martial arts which I will not get into.
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hahaha bro honestly I am not a man to be taking littly in a fight. I have an extensive background in martial arts which I will not get into.
thank you ;D
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hahaha bro honestly I am not a man to be taking littly in a fight. I have an extensive background in martial arts which I will not get into.
honestly...no joking...why didn't you say anything before? Lord knows you brag about everything else...
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honestly...no joking...why didn't you say anything before? Lord knows you brag about everything else...
Well I choose a life of peace. I could become heavyweight world champion in boxing or mma or anything I want but what will that get me? I could kill somebody but how will I live with myself? I rather inspire people to do positive things. ;D
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Well I choose a life of peace. I could become heavyweight world champion in boxing or mma or anything I want but what will that get me? I could kill somebody but how will I live with myself? I rather inspire people to do positive things. ;D
Self confidence if is a GOOD thing! :D
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I have a blue belt but could destroy any martial artist.
ROFL
surely, this is the man who will win the mr getbig contest. no one mentions alexxx but he will bring it because no one has the positive attitude that he does
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hahaha bro honestly I am not a man to be taking littly in a fight. I have an extensive background in martial arts which I will not get into.
get into it. what you know foo'? me, 12 years aikido.
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Think this is the photo where he's rubbing chests with Ronnie
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42976.0;attach=44292;image)
there is just something wrong about this pic.
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does anyone else notice this area that is white than the rest...?
(http://i2.tinypic.com/209kd2v.jpg)
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(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/190_9094_2.JPG)
nice wife beater.
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no sign of a penis
I do see a guy looking for one tho.
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I do see a guy looking for one tho.
He probably just logged off of Gaybeasts and came here just to post that.
Monster package hunting.
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I just took a snapshot of Adonis' penis so he could prove that he has a penis once and for all
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:o
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I do see a guy looking for one tho.
hahahahaha
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not his pecker you morons; his waistline..
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you reckon he 'shopped his waistline?
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it looks weird to me how its whiter than the rest of the photo...
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yeah it does look whiter, but hardly anyone noticed, just shows how difficult it will be to judge the photos for the mr getbig contest
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it looks weird to me how its whiter than the rest of the photo...
i'll tell you what doesn't look white..
your mom.
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i'll tell you what doesn't look white..
your mom.
now's the time when i should respond by telling you you're gay or something about your mom and we'll go back and forth doing that for the next 3-4 pages?
i think i'll pass. nice try though. ::)
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i'll tell you what doesn't look white..
your mom.
you're gay or something
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I just took a snapshot of Adonis' penis
Why exactly did TA show you his penis and why would you want to see it?
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Why exactly did TA show you his penis and why would you want to see it?
gaysex and gaysex
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cud be from wearing speedos on beac or summat. white area dont seem to me to be nething suspicios. posibly even reflection or lighting
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you all should know by now...DTA...
"Don't trust Adonis"
I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw my car and if you do then you need to do some research.
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cud be from wearing speedos on beac or summat. white area dont seem to me to be nething suspicios. posibly even reflection or lighting
wearing speedos?
not sure which one is more gay, that or posing nude.
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What was the nude shot taken for?
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You live in Ethiopia?
YIP
Zack
Word!!
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Why exactly did TA show you his penis and why would you want to see it?
I don't get this one either...I don't care how good of a friend a guy is I'm not gonna go around telling everyone I can vouch for his shlong.
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I don't get this one either...I don't care how good of a friend a guy is I'm not gonna go around telling everyone I can vouch for his shlong.
I'm a secure guy, unlike you closet muscle-bear loving homsesexuals I guess.
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I'm a secure guy, unlike you closet muscle-bear loving homsesexuals I guess.
Come on now, not even your mother believes that load of bullshit.
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What was the nude shot taken for?
for you ;D
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bump for "almost pro size mass"
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bump for "almost pro size mass"
arent you running the mr. get big? If you are, don't you think it's a little wierd to be proclaiming a guy almost a pro? Are you gonna promote everyone equally?
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bump for "almost pro size mass"
I don't think bump means what you think it means.
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I don't think bump means what you think it means.
;D funny
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arent you running the mr. get big? If you are, don't you think it's a little wierd to be proclaiming a guy almost a pro? Are you gonna promote everyone equally?
I'm not judging, I'm just impressed by what Adonis brings to the table. Don't forget he's a natural either.
But yes, I'm also promoting Alexxx. He's not a mass monster, but he's got the perfect combo of definition and aesthetics. Frank Zane comes to mind.
This is his official thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57051.0
It's going to be a battle for 1 - 3 placings.
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::)
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I'm not judging, I'm just impressed by what Adonis brings to the table. Don't forget he's a natural either.
But yes, I'm also promoting Alexxx. He's not a mass monster, but he's got the perfect combo of definition and aesthetics. Frank Zane comes to mind.
This is his official thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57051.0
It's going to be a battle for 1 - 3 placings.
you really should stay neutral, if you are in charge, be a fuckin man for once in your life and look at the big picture. Leaders don't promote ANYONE, they make sure things go smoothly(I admit you and 240 seem to have your shit together), but impartiality is a must for a man in your current position, even if you are accustomed to being a man on the bottom position ;D
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you really should stay neutral, if you are in charge, be a fuckin man for once in your life and look at the big picture. Leaders don't promote ANYONE, they make sure things go smoothly(I admit you and 240 seem to have your shit together), but impartiality is a must for a man in your current position, even if you are accustomed to being a man on the bottom position ;D
Your mom is a man on the bottom position.
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Your mom is a man on the bottom position.
just be a man and stay neutral, you wanted the gig, you got it, now do it right, like I said you and 240 are doing real well thus far, don't fuck up the integrity of the whole fuckin thing by getting all over pepsquadders nuts.
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I'm not judging asshole. I can say Adonis looks good if I want. He's the Schwarzenegger to my Joe Weider.
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just be a man and stay neutral, you wanted the gig, you got it, now do it right, like I said you and 240 are doing real well thus far, don't f**k up the integrity of the whole fuckin thing by getting all over pepsquadders nuts.
240 is doing good with the sponsors.
what oliver does is anyones guess.
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240 is doing good with the sponsors.
what oliver does is anyones guess.
promotes that big eared freak and changes the rules constanty. One day he says there is no limit of time you have to be a member, then he says one month. He is a pathological liar.
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I run the show as well as being a sponser myself. I'm like Joe Weider.
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naming you weider wasn't a compliment ::)
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naming you weider wasn't a compliment ::)
Stop cramping my style little bitch.
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I run the show as well as being a sponser myself. I'm like Joe Weider.
you flat out lied to me Oliver!
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you flat out lied to me Oliver!
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you told me you could join the day of the contest(like you said, you are running it!), then you changed it to one month when you saw the pic I posted of my friend who makes you fag buddy Adonis look like a piece of shit.
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Actually dumbass, if you look in the sticky thread, you'll see it was changed to appease popular opinion. I didn't want to change it. Bluto was one of the biggest proponents for the deadline change.
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it's probably my fault danielson, don't go dim-mak on my ass ::)
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Actually dumbass, if you look in the sticky thread, you'll see it was changed to appease popular opinion. I didn't want to change it. Bluto was one of the biggest proponents for the deadline change.
so, when is the last day someone can join? btw, do you really think Eardonis has a chance against the guy I am promoting?
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it's probably my fault danielson, don't go dim-mak on my ass ::)
no prob ;D
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it's probably my fault danielson, don't go dim-mak on my ass ::)
Don't give yourself too much credit little buddy. You were the loudest, but people like Onlyme had a greater impact on the decision.
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so, when is the last day someone can join?
End of this month. July 31.
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so, when is the last day someone can join? btw, do you really think Eardonis has a chance against the guy I am promoting?
hahhah funny that you can`t go against me that oyu have to have some homo that you lust after at your gym to try.
hahhahhahah
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Don't give yourself too much credit little buddy. You were the loudest, but people like Onlyme had a greater impact on the decision.
whatever it takes
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End of this month. July 31.
it was a two part question.
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I don't know who you are talking about.
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wtf end of this month? i thought the rule was that they needed to be members allready by the time contest was announced
so there's still plenty of chance for people from the other board to join then
oh brother
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Yes, it attracts new board members. It's always good to promote Getbig.
At the same time, it creates a small window to enter.
It's a compromise.
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hahhah funny that you can`t go against me that oyu have to have some homo that you lust after at your gym to try.
hahhahhahah
NO, you are bigger(and uglier with way bigger ears than me). Its not a homo at my gym, its my best friend since I was a kid. And you look like a piece of shit next to him you cocky fucker. And believe me, I would have no problem "going against you", you piece of shit. I just happen to be a fighter, not a bber.
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I say that we end the registration next week!!!
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I don't know who you are talking about.
this is my buddy who is going to win the natural competition, he is in California, and I go to Vegas Friday, so I will see that he signs up by Wednesday. btw, these pics are 7 or 8 years old(He is about 20 pounds heavier now). He makes Eardonis look like a little girl.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=83940.0
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attracts new members? fuck that
the whole point for a lot of people is to compete against other getbiggers, majority being known members
if anyone makes a thread about the competition on bodybuilding.com it's all over
on the positive side
adonis will be placed top #400
;D
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this is my buddy who is going to win the natural competition, he is in California, and I go to Vegas Friday, so I will see that he signs up by Wednesday. btw, these pics are 7 or 8 years old(He is about 20 pounds heavier now). He makes Eardonis look like a little girl.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=83940.0
looks good. will beat adonis for sure
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See he hasnt even gone on the board yet, and he is going to enter ..not that it matters but i think then it wouldnt be a Mr. Getbig contest with all these freinds of members throwning thier hat in the ring..
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attracts new members? f**k that
the whole point for a lot of people is to compete against other getbiggers, majority being known members
if anyone makes a thread about the competition on bodybuilding.com it's all over
on the positive side
adonis will be placed top #400
;D
Everyone in the contest thus far is regulars.
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JoeBlow123 : "hi everyone, my freind (insert username) told me of a contest....here are my pics..."
JoeBlow123 : "Wow so who thinks big ron will win the Mr. O?"
JoeBlow123 : "Why do people say 'owned' or 'meltdown', that isnt very nice now is it"
JoeBlow123 : "Some guy named Bast wants to have a 'muscle worship' session. He must have good intentions even though I am not sure what type of session he is referring to."
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Everyone in the contest thus far is regulars.
Danielson is bringing in a ringer ;D I shit you not, my buddy is a freak. Totally natural. 30 inch waist, 31 inch quads, 21 inch pipes,150 pounds db's for bench and shoulders, no weaknesses. I could care less about having him enter, but I think Sarcasm is going to hand the title over to Adonis on a silver platter. btw, my boy may already have signed up(to the site, not the contest), I told him about it and he said he had been reading a little and getting some laughs out of it. When he does enter, I will take ALL bets on him winning.(I have paypal).
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Danielson is bringing in a ringer ;D I shit you not, my buddy is a freak. Totally natural. 30 inch waist, 31 inch quads, 21 inch pipes,150 pounds db's for bench and shoulders, no weaknesses. I could care less about having him enter, but I think Sarcasm is going to hand the title over to Adonis on a silver platter. btw, my boy may already have signed up(to the site, not the contest), I told him about it and he said he had been reading a little and getting some laughs out of it. When he does enter, I will take ALL bets on him winning.(I have paypal).
I wont participate in a fake ass GetBig contest with randoms in it .... fuck that , you can do that on any board..
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I wont participate in a fake ass GetBig contest with randoms in it .... f**k that , you can do that on any board..
I am not doing it to piss you off. I just think they have declared Adonis the winner before it even started. Keep up the training, bro. Second place prizes are still pretty sweet.
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I am not doing it to piss you off. I just think they have declared Adonis the winner before it even started. Keep up the training, bro. Second place prizes are still pretty sweet.
I have been training before I got on Getbig and well after I leave...which may never come..but regardless... If Adonis is the front runner then you might as well hand the First place prize to me, nothing personal but he has Draper Legs, Some funky chest, No visable abs (just a vacum), and no detail or thickness in his back.
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I have been training before I got on Getbig and well after I leave...which may never come..but regardless... If Adonis is the front runner then you might as well hand the First place prize to me, nothing personal but he has Draper Legs, Some funky chest, No visable abs (just a vacum), and no detail or thickness in his back.
Thats what I am saying, when my boy enters, believe me, NO ONE on here can beat him and if they try to give it to Adonis, they will all be exposed as frauds, second place is all yours.
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Thats what I am saying, when my boy enters, believe me, NO ONE on here can beat him and if they try to give it to Adonis, they will all be exposed as frauds, second place is all yours.
We shall see the score cards...im sure ppl like Shawn Ray wont let ridiculous scores happen...Ron wont either!! Like I said before, prizes are cool ..i dont need the prizes but i jsut want a fair shake.
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We shall see the score cards...im sure ppl like Shawn Ray wont let ridiculous scores happen...Ron wont either!! Like I said before, prizes are cool ..i dont need the prizes but i jsut want a fair shake.
thats all I want to happen, I want to enter, and i know I can't win, but with Sarcasm judging he would place me at the bottom, fuck that! Do you think my buddy should enter?
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looks good. will beat adonis for sure
ROFLMAO!!! Narrow as the day is long.
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ROFLMAO!!! Narrow as the day is long.
Narrow? you are going to lose Eardonis ;D
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Narrow? you are going to lose Eardonis ;D
hahha you even had to stretch the pic to make him look wider...hahahahhaah
Plus my abs are way better....You will see.
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hahha you even had to stretch the pic to make him look wider...hahahahhaah
Plus my abs are way better....You will see.
I don't know how to to that? He's in better shape now as well. This shot was for the EAS contest in 98. You will lose. Trust me.
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I don't know how to to that? He's in better shape now as well. This shot was for the EAS contest in 98. You will lose. Trust me.
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO A fucking body for life participant.....He couldn`t even win that.................... ..................hahhha hahahahahahahahahah
You are a retard.
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I don't know how to to that? He's in better shape now as well. This shot was for the EAS contest in 98. You will lose. Trust me.
See he doesnt even know that the contest exist.... thats why he shouldnt be entered... whats to say that you wont reap all the prizes for yourself ???
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See he doesnt even know that the contest exist.... thats why he shouldnt be entered... whats to say that you wont reap all the prizes for yourself ???
Don`t worry JaeJonna even you own that tiny tit BODY FOR LIFE participant...hahhahahah
I`m convinced that that is Danielson`s gay cousin that he was whining about.
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See he doesnt even know that the contest exist.... thats why he shouldnt be entered... whats to say that you wont reap all the prizes for yourself ???
that would be shitty, for sure. I would NEVER do that. He will have his own IP, obviously, and I am sure he will put links to his webpage(he's a real estate agent). I have said on numerous occasions that I am from Oakland county, Michigan. It will be very clear that he is from the same area, has no agenda other than prizes(and pride), and the mods will definitely be able to tell that he is not me or someone I made up.
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Don`t worry JaeJonna even you own that tiny tit BODY FOR LIFE participant...hahhahahah
I`m convinced that that is Danielson`s gay cousin that he was whining about.
you don't have one pic where you look half as good as him, and you have shitty legs, take one more look at his and just try to tell me you can even compare....
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you don't have one pic where you look half as good as him, and you have shitty legs, take one more look at his and just try to tell me you can even compare....
hahhahhah narrow midget with no back or shoulders or biceps.
hahah he even lost the BODY FOR LIFE Contest and all their entrants suck. hahhaahha
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hahhahhah narrow midget with no back or shoulders or biceps.
hahah he even lost the BODY FOR LIFE Contest and all their entrants suck. hahhaahha
6 feet even, 245, 21 inch pipes, you will lose. And yes, he only got top 50 in the body for life, but that was 8 years ago.
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6 feet even, 245, 21 inch pipes, you will lose. And yes, he only got top 50 in the body for life, but that was 8 years ago.
hahhahhah there is no such thing as a lifetime natural lean at 6ft 245.....hahhahahahahahhh aah You are an idiot. Thats bigger than Arnold,Nubret and even some pros today....hahahahahahahah ahha You are a joke....Just like him.
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6 feet even, 245, 21 inch pipes, you will lose. And yes, he only got top 50 in the body for life, but that was 8 years ago.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=84224.0;attach=90812;image)
Your claim is about as bad as "The Beasts" claim....hahhaaahha 6ft 245 with 21 inch arms Natural................O h brother, what a master fabricator.
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hahhahhah there is no such thing as a lifetime natural lean at 6ft 245.....hahhahahahahahhh aah You are an idiot. Thats bigger than Arnold,Nubret and even some pros today....hahahahahahahah ahha You are a joke....Just like him.
That would be bigger than Skip Lacour.
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That would be bigger than Skip Lacour.
hahhaah That would be bigger than Bob Chicherillo.hahah
Natural too.
hahhahahahahahahahahaha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=84224.0;attach=90812;image)
Monster Delusion
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weights or a bubuilder does not make them bigger. only heavier. judge by appearance rather than the scale. arnold looked massive at 235 while others look so much smaller. then again iver seen 230lb guys who look 200.
im 220. people think i about 235 sumtimes
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I am 230 people think I am 250 ;D
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I am 230 people think I am 250 ;D
You're tall though. This guy is 6' claiming dimensions bigger than Skip Lacour and Bob Chick. Is he claiming natural status?
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You're tall though. This guy is 6' claiming dimensions bigger than Skip Lacour and Bob Chick. Is he claiming natural status?
At 6 foot tall his claim is believable.
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so what. from what i understand he can be in one of the classes, and if he wants to be in both, how you gonna stop him?
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hahhaah That would be bigger than Bob Chicherillo.hahah
Natural too.
hahhahahahahahahahahaha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=84224.0;attach=90812;image)
Monster Delusion
I swear to god on my Niece and Nephews life, that is the gods honest truth. If he ever used gear, its news to me(he says no, and I have never noticed a huge increase in size, always been a freak and just keeps growing), and those are his stats. But TA, why did you just get Oliver to change the deadline again? It looks like you had to be registered before july 1 now. This contest is so fuckin shady, there is no way he would just change it unless someone(you) made a fuss. And btw, he was 245 in that beach pic, obviously he was carrying alot of fat there, he is probably 235 now, cuz he is one of those guys who gets in crazy shape for a vacation(even though he's married ::)) He is probably 4 to 5% bf right now, he actuallly tried to bet me 500 bucks that his bf was lower than mine and for the first time I can recall, I think I may have lost that bet.
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I swear to god on my Niece and Nephews life, that is the gods honest truth. If he ever used gear, its news to me(he says no, and I have never noticed a huge increase in size, always been a freak and just keeps growing), and those are his stats. But TA, why did you just get Oliver to change the deadline again? It looks like you had to be registered before july 1 now. This contest is so fuckin shady, there is no way he would just change it unless someone(you) made a fuss. And btw, he was 245 in that beach pic, obviously he was carrying alot of fat there, he is probably 235 now, cuz he is one of those guys who gets in crazy shape for a vacation(even though he's married ::)) He is probably 4 to 5% bf right now, he actuallly tried to bet me 500 bucks that his bf was lower than mine and for the first time I can recall, I think I may have lost that bet.
hahahhah DO YOU REALIZE THAT ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER WAS NOT EVER 235 AT 4-5 PERCENT AT 6`2"
BUT YET YOU THINK THIS POLE SMOKING BODY FOR LIFE CHALLENGE LAST PLACE FINISHER IS BIGGER AND LEANER THAN ARNOLD AND NATURAL?????????
YOU NEED TO DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT NOW AND JUST DIE.
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hahahhah DO YOU REALIZE THAT ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER WAS NOT EVER 235 AT 4-5 PERCENT AT 6`2"
BUT YET YOU THINK THIS POLE SMOKING BODY FOR LIFE CHALLENGE LAST PLACE FINISHER IS BIGGER AND LEANER THAN ARNOLD AND NATURAL?????????
YOU NEED TO DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT NOW AND JUST DIE.
Arnold Had small legs, Meathead doesn't. Fuck you.
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Arnold Had small legs, Meathead doesn't. f**k you.
roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is your excuse?
So you are saying that "Meathhead",a Body for Life, non-placing entrant would have destroyed Arnold,a 7 time Mr Olympia?
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO. Please. Log off and start over, you have badly owned yourself.
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Danielson, you sound like one of those dudes who always knows someone who is "Huge and Ripped and is 6 ft 3 320 lbs all Muscle". Then one day you happen to meet this beast and he turns out to be 5`8 153 lbs. hahahahahahah
You are the type of people I hate.
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Either that or 6`5 and 258 lbs with 57 percent bodyfat.
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roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is your excuse?
So you are saying that "Meathhead",a Body for Life, non-placing entrant would have destroyed Arnold,a 7 time Mr Olympia?
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO. Please. Log off and start over, you have badly owned yourself.
no, I said he would have beat YOU, not Arnold. But I think Alexxx will place higher than you anyway. The rules have been changed, so what does it matter? good luck in the contest, I never said you weren't a big guy, I just don't want you to win.
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Danielson, you sound like one of those dudes who always knows someone who is "Huge and Ripped and is 6 ft 3 320 lbs all Muscle". Then one day you happen to meet this beast and he turns out to be 5`8 153 lbs. hahahahahahah
You are the type of people I hate.
no, actually I have a pretty good grasp on reality when it comes to judging other people, the only reason I wanted my boy to enter is because he is much bigger and leaner than you.
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no, actually I have a pretty good grasp on reality when it comes to judging other people, the only reason I wanted my boy to enter is because he is much bigger and leaner than you.
But you do realize that you are making him out to be something he is not. You have yourself convinced that he is bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger and could easily stand next to today`s Pros and even dwarf some of them...all this being natural.
Do you realize how absurd you sound. Obviously you have exaggerated. Can you admit that?
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stand next to todays pros? isnt that what you was doing with ronnie?
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But you do realize that you are making him out to be something he is not. You have yourself convinced that he is bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger and could easily stand next to today`s Pros and even dwarf some of them...all this being natural.
Do you realize how absurd you sound. Obviously you have exaggerated. Can you admit that?
can you admit you don't have 20" arms...or that MD hasn't contacted you..or that you had no huge announcement that you hyped for months....
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But you do realize that you are making him out to be something he is not. You have yourself convinced that he is bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger and could easily stand next to today`s Pros and even dwarf some of them...all this being natural.
Do you realize how absurd you sound. Obviously you have exaggerated. Can you admit that?
If I was exaggerating, I would say it. That is what he told me he weighs. He claims(and I believe him) to be natural. I have no clue as to what other pros weigh or weighed in the 70s? I simply said that with all your cockiness and bragging, I knew that my buddy would destroy you in the contest.
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can you admit you don't have 20" arms...or that MD hasn't contacted you..or that you had no huge announcement that you hyped for months....
he never said he had 20 ::) inch arms, did he ???
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If I was exaggerating, I would say it. That is what he told me he weighs. He claims(and I believe him) to be natural. I have no clue as to what other pros weigh or weighed in the 70s? I simply said that with all your cockiness and bragging, I knew that my buddy would destroy you in the contest.
Would you like me to educate you on bodybuilders of the past so you can go back and tell your buddy that he is a liar or that he is delusional?
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Would you like me to educate you on bodybuilders of the past so you can go back and tell your buddy that he is a liar or that he is delusional?
no, 245 at 6 feet doesn't seem unattainable, no matter how much you jerk off to 70's Muscle and fitness mags.
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no, 245 at 6 feet doesn't seem unattainable, no matter how much you jerk off to 70's Muscle and fitness mags.
does any of it matter, Adonis, I had two pics of him on my fantasy football website and both of them make you look like shit, so who cares?
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he never said he had 20 ::) inch arms, did he ???
there used to be a thread titled "natural beast with 20" arms" or something like that...something funky was going on especially when you look at his latest pics and his arms look about 3" smaller, wierd stuff...
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he never said he had 20 ::) inch arms, did he ???
I never have said 20...I said "Near" 20 when I am at my fattest, but I can admit that some was fat. They are in the high teens.
I did get a PM from a writer at MD asking me if I could elaborate on some things I have said on the forums. I won`t go into details...
And I do have a huge announcement. I just get to pick the date and time I choose to announce it. hahah
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there used to be a thread titled "natural beast with 20" arms" or something like that...something funky was going on especially when you look at his latest pics and his arms look about 3" smaller, wierd stuff...
I would like him more if he were like Alexxx and admitted that he is trying, just not yet there. ;D
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no, 245 at 6 feet doesn't seem unattainable, no matter how much you jerk off to 70's Muscle and fitness mags.
Hate to burst your muscle fantasy but it IS UNATTAINABLE to reach 245 LBS at 4-5 Percent body fat at 6 foot.
Ask GH15, the only truth telling Pro. He will tell you. Hell any pro will tell you actually.
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Hate to burst your muscle fantasy but it IS UNATTAINABLE to reach 245 LBS at 4-5 Percent body fat at 6 foot.
Ask GH15, the only truth telling Pro. He will tell you. Hell any pro will tell you actually.
so, everyones genetics are the same? how tall are you? how much do you weigh?
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funny thread
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I never have said 20...I said "Near" 20 when I am at my fattest, but I can admit that some was fat. They are in the high teens.
I did get a PM from a writer at MD asking me if I could elaborate on some things I have said on the forums. I won`t go into details...
And I do have a huge announcement. I just get to pick the date and time I choose to announce it. hahah
yeah..whatever. If that makes you feel better go ahead. FAct is you call everyone else out for pretty much everything but when you get called out it's a different story...high teens makes them almost 20"? So when I was 16 walking around with 16" arms I should have been saying I had almost 20" arms...man if I knew then what I know now. 16 is in the high teens isn't it?
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so, everyones genetics are the same? how tall are you? how much do you weigh?
The human body can only progress so much naturally and 245 lbs at 6 foot 4-5 percent bodyfat is a complete impossibility.
The body in no way, shape or form can produce that much testosterone to support that Kind of growth. Nobody has ever gotten there naturally at that size. EVER.
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The human body can only progress so much naturally and 245 lbs at 6 foot 4-5 percent bodyfat is a complete impossibility.
The body in no way, shape or form can produce that much testosterone to support that Kind of growth. Nobody has ever gotten there naturally at that size. EVER.
yet Meathead did? maybe he diets down to 225? I don't know. I didn't exaggerate on purpose, that is what I was told. your height? weight?
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at the end of the day that guy will win over adonis if he gets into the competition.
enough said.
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yeah..whatever. If that makes you feel better go ahead. FAct is you call everyone else out for pretty much everything but when you get called out it's a different story...high teens makes them almost 20"? So when I was 16 walking around with 16" arms I should have been saying I had almost 20" arms...man if I knew then what I know now. 16 is in the high teens isn't it?
natty al owns Eardonis ;D
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at the end of the day that guy will win over adonis if he gets into the competition.
enough said.
Thats all I am saying ;D
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yeah..whatever. If that makes you feel better go ahead. FAct is you call everyone else out for pretty much everything but when you get called out it's a different story...high teens makes them almost 20"? So when I was 16 walking around with 16" arms I should have been saying I had almost 20" arms...man if I knew then what I know now. 16 is in the high teens isn't it?
No thats mid teens. High teens is 18-19.
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yet Meathead did? maybe he diets down to 225? I don't know. I didn't exaggerate on purpose, that is what I was told. your height? weight?
That would still make him bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I don`t think you get it yet.
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That would still make him bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I don`t think you get it yet.
how big were arnolds legs? 25?
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No thats mid teens. High teens is 18-19.
so what your saying is that if I meet a girl who is 17, and she tells me shes 20, I should just believe her, whats that? The Adonis rounding off rule?
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how big were arnolds legs? 25?
hahhahah Yah Your boy is surely bigger than Arnold hahhahahahhaha.
Arnold had pretty big quads.
(http://members.aol.com/ArnoldTheLegend/ArnoldJoeWeider.jpg)
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haha You still think your boy is on Par with this?:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery4/m612.jpg)
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Very Good legs here.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery7/mg178.jpg)
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Adonis, when I am wrong I admit it. I just talked to him and he said he is 220 and would probably drop 5 more for a "contest". He weighs in excess of 245 in the winter. My facts were definitely off.
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wow using.. arnold..to diregard guys physique.... monster strategy....
people carry weight different.... the guy danielson is talkin about may well be heavier than arnold.. but he doesnt look bigger.... and that is where genetics come into play.... flex wheeler was like sub 250.. but ue to his build... and yet he dwarved guys who weighed a lot more than him.. case in point his arms dwarved nassers....fux.... etc.... that is genetics.. see flex was a true mes...part ectomorph light bones.. thats why he looked heavier than he weighed.. nasser.. and fux have heavier bones... larger joints...
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wow using.. arnold..to diregard guys physique.... monster strategy....
people carry weight different.... the guy danielson is talkin about may well be heavier than arnold.. but he doesnt look bigger.... and that is where genetics come into play.... flex wheeler was like sub 250.. but ue to his build... and yet he dwarved guys who weighed a lot more than him.. case in point his arms dwarved nassers....fux.... etc.... that is genetics.. see flex was a true mes...part ectomorph light bones.. thats why he looked heavier than he weighed.. nasser.. and fux have heavier bones... larger joints...
good points.
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wow using.. arnold..to diregard guys physique.... monster strategy....
people carry weight different.... the guy danielson is talkin about may well be heavier than arnold.. but he doesnt look bigger.... and that is where genetics come into play.... flex wheeler was like sub 250.. but ue to his build... and yet he dwarved guys who weighed a lot more than him.. case in point his arms dwarved nassers....fux.... etc.... that is genetics.. see flex was a true mes...part ectomorph light bones.. thats why he looked heavier than he weighed.. nasser.. and fux have heavier bones... larger joints...
Flex WAS NOT sub 250!!!!!
You are clueless as well.
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Flex WAS NOT sub 250!!!!!
You are clueless as well.
he said sub 250 kinda like you're arms are almost 20".....
sub 250 means below 250.
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He's pretty big but there is a muscle maturity issue there. If he lost some bodyfat, he'd still be big, but it's not the dense muscle that pro's sport. But he's a big dude for sure.
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adonis...
manners and respect is paramount in all things.. i just stated afact.. whats the point of callin me "clueless"
are you agirl
fact flex competed sub 250 for most of his career... so i guess that blows your weigh a lot look better theory out of the water...
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He's pretty big but there is a muscle maturity issue there. If he lost some bodyfat, he'd still be big, but it's not the dense muscle that pro's sport. But he's a big dude for sure.
are you referring to Adonis?
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adonis...
manners and respect is paramount in all things.. i just stated afact.. whats the point of callin me "clueless"
are you agirl
fact flex competed sub 250 for most of his career... so i guess that blows your weigh a lot look better theory out of the water...
Flex never competed in the 240s or the 250s.
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Flex never competed in the 240s or the 250s.
since I admitted I was wrong, can you be a man and admit that your arms were never 20?
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since I admitted I was wrong, can you be a man and admit that your arms were never 20?
I NEVER have said they were 20. Ever at any time.
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flex nearly always competed sub 250... until his later days when he tried to play the size game with coleman
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just almost 20, just like oliver think you got almost pro-size mass ::)
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I NEVER have said they were 20. Ever at any time.
did you say almost 20? btw, what is your height? weight?
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just almost 20, just like oliver think you got almost pro-size mass ::)
so by the Adonis round off method, I can tell girls my dick is 10 inches?
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flex nearly always competed sub 250... until his later days when he tried to play the size game with coleman
No he did not!
Ask Shawn Ray or anyone that competed against him!
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No he did not!
Ask Shawn Ray or anyone that competed against him!
correct, the heaviest he ever competed at was like 228-230.
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correct, the heaviest he ever competed at was like 228-230.
hey Sarcasm, do you really live in Vegas?
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hey Sarcasm, do you really live in Vegas?
He is a circus performer.
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He is a circus performer.
no, brian or someone said he lived there. I am just curious.
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hey Sarcasm, do you really live in Vegas?
no.
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if you want to find out who sarcasm just ask brianX he told me.
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no.
just curious. I was going to ask you a few questions.
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if you want to find out who sarcasm just ask brianX he told me.
Alexxx are you going to shave for the contest? maybe get a tan?
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Alexxx are you going to shave for the contest? maybe get a tan?
It is currently under consideration.
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It is currently under consideration.
I can't back an albino gorilla. Let me know.
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I can't back an albino gorilla. Let me know.
Don't worry it will be taken care off!
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Don't worry it will be taken care off!
do you think you got a shot? I don't like to back losers, either.
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do you think you got a shot? I don't like to back losers, either.
::)
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my buddy Meat just sent me some new shots. I told him the story, he is getting a kick out of it. If I post them, will you give me an honest opinion if he could beat Adonis.(some of them are kind of gay, he's my best friend, but a little, um, out there ???)
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my buddy Meat just sent me some new shots. I told him the story, he is getting a kick out of it. If I post them, will you give me an honest opinion if he could beat Adonis.(some of them are kind of gay, he's my best friend, but a little, um, out there ???)
Post
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a leg shot,(I admit he is not 245, that was my error)..
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a leg shot,(I admit he is not 245, that was my error)..
170 tops.
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better abs than adonis...
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a leg shot,(I admit he is not 245, that was my error)..
Looks in good shape. His legs are awesome. He sure looks thicker than Adonis and leaner. I think Adonis has back and biceps on him but overall your "friend" beats him.
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better abs than adonis...
You have never seen my abs. You just wait. :)
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170 tops.
so, you could beat him? are your legs better? btw, I am 178 and he has at least 40 pounds on me.
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Looks in good shape. His legs are awesome. He sure looks thicker than Adonis and leaner. I think Adonis has back and biceps on him but overall your "friend" beats him.
are you kidding? TA doesnt have shit on that guy...
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CAn't really tell.. do you have a backshot danielson?
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here's the gayer ones... (i really did think he was bigger, but I still think he would win the contest in a landslide)
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Well your "ringer" isnt going to be in the contest so Im not sure why you post his pic
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here's the gayer ones... (i really did think he was bigger, but I still think he would win the contest in a landslide)
God damn Danielson, your a fucking rooty tutti, botty snacher, pillow bitter, what kind of 'freindship' do you have ??
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Well your "ringer" isnt going to be in the contest so Im not sure why you post his pic
Yes, the decision has been made and I hope you and Alexxx take 1 and 2, this is just in case the rules change again, he is ready and willing. Also, just for fun.
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You guys are toast if my natural friend competes! ;D
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God damn Danielson, your a fucking rooty tutti, botty snacher, pillow bitter, what kind of 'freindship' do you have ??
believe me, we question his "sexuality" all the time. he is married with 3 kids, and no he is not gay nor am I. I asked for pics and these are the one he sent me, I know it looks weird :-X
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You guys are toast if my natural friend competes! ;D
big guy, but he's fat, looks like a drinker.
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your boy might place, had a good chance to...but this contest like 240 reiterated is more a celebration of the personailites that post here regulary...
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You guys are toast if my natural friend competes! ;D
is he Samoan?
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your boy might place, had a good chance to...but this contest like 240 reiterated is more a celebration of the personailites that post here regulary...
I'm cool with that. Makes sense, I just thought it was kind of shady that the rules kept changing. But like I said, I hope you beat Adonis.
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so, you could beat him? are your legs better? btw, I am 178 and he has at least 40 pounds on me.
This shouldn`t be that difficult. I carry a lot more mass on the upper body and have perfectly symmetrical abs when Dieted down.
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You guys are toast if my natural friend competes! ;D
Unfortunately he like Danielsons friend are not GetBiggers
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CAn't really tell.. do you have a backshot danielson?
you don't want to see the backshot he sent me, trust me! plus, Sarcasm would have a fuckin field day if i posted it :'(
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If you are 178 danielson, then you weigh more than your friend does.
He has no real thickness at all in the upper body.
He really is just lean and thats it.
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This shouldn`t be that difficult. I carry a lot more mass on the upper body and have perfectly symmetrical abs when Dieted down.
You are a big guy, TA, I never said otherwise. I was planning on entering until Sarcasm was announced as a judge. And I admit, I couldn't beat you. I was just proving to you that any placing you get is because you complained to Ollie about the cutoff date, there is no way you could beat the Meat.
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You are a big guy, TA, I never said otherwise. I was planning on entering until Sarcasm was announced as a judge. And I admit, I couldn't beat you. I was just proving to you that any placing you get is because you complained to Ollie about the cutoff date, there is no way you could beat the Meat.
Of course I can. He looks like a stick figure with abs.
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If you are 178 danielson, then you weigh more than your friend does.
He has no real thickness at all in the upper body.
He really is just lean and thats it.
you know TA, I agree with you to a point, there is no way he is under 200, but I really don't think he dieted down as well as he did in the past.(he bulks up every winter) His older pics were much bigger. I still think he would beat you though. Do your legs even compare?
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you know TA, I agree with you to a point, there is no way he is under 200, but I really don't think he dieted down as well as he did in the past.(he bulks up every winter) His older pics were much bigger. I still think he would beat you though. Do your legs even compare?
Yes.
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Yes.
I haven't seen them. are yours better? how about a pic? oh yeah, how tall are you?
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I haven't seen them. are yours better? how about a pic? oh yeah, how tall are you?
5`11.
I don`t think I am going to post anymore pics until September.
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I can't post the rest of Meats pics, bay and derek would take over this thread ;D
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Of course I can. He looks like a stick figure with abs.
Right. The guy can't weigh more than 190 under any circumstances -- and if I had to guess, I'd say he were closer to 180.
240 at 6' and 4-6% bodyfat is entirely impossible for a natural. Just completely unattainable; a physical impossibility. Those are top NPC competitor stats, and are exceedingly hard to reach even with large quantities of drugs...
I would even go so far as to say that 99.99999% of the gym-going public don't have the genetics to hit 220 @ 6' and 6%bf naturally.
The bottom line: there's no way that your "Body For Life last-place finisher" buddy is anywhere near 200 pounds.
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Right. The guy can't weigh more than 190 under any circumstances -- and if I had to guess, I'd say he were closer to 180.
240 at 6' and 4-6% bodyfat is entirely impossible for a natural. Just completely unattainable; a physical impossibility. Those are top NPC competitor stats, and are exceedingly hard to reach even with large quantities of drugs...
I would even go so far as to say that 99.99999% of the gym-going public don't have the genetics to hit 220 @ 6' and 6%bf naturally.
The bottom line: there's no way that your "Body For Life last-place finisher" buddy is anywhere near 200 pounds.
Exactly.
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Exactly.
I admitted I was wrong, it was my mistake. I remembered he weighed 245 or so in the winter. Like I said, when I am wrong, I admit it. but he IS over 200. and I still think he would beat Adonis.
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what do you weigh right now TA?
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are you a gambling man, TA?
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are you a gambling man, TA?
Are you trying to place a bet?
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you got that right! interested?
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Of course I can. He looks like a stick figure with abs.
wellllll...if you're that sure why don't you petition to let him compete? That way this whole thing would be laid to rest. After all you're part of the squad and the guy that's running the show is your pal, so just pull some strings and viola!! It can be settled on the day of the "show".
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you got that right! interested?
Depends on what it is.
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wellllll...if you're that sure why don't you petition to let him compete? That way this whole thing would be laid to rest. After all you're part of the squad and the guy that's running the show is your pal, so just pull some strings and viola!! It can be settled on the day of the "show".
spoken like a gentleman, natty Al. meat can be signed up as a member in the next hour, if Ollie and 240 make an exception.
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spoken like a gentleman, natty Al. meat can be signed up as a member in the next hour, if Ollie and 240 make an exception.
why don't you say 8:00? It's the middle of the day and it might be hard for a guy to register from work.
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Depends on what it is.
OK, the way I see it, the rules were changed to fuck my buddy out of the contest. I told Ollie that he would sign up in time and then the rules changed. Whatever, Nothing I can do about that. Heres what I propose, the competition goes on as planned. I told meat about 2500 in cash and prizes. Lets make a side bet, you vs. him. Nothing to do with the contest, but I believe it will add a little hype. Only thing I ask is that we each get to omit 1 judge, for me it would be Sarcasm. I trust 240, I will shoot him over 2500 bucks right now if you do the same and winner takes all. and pics will be taken with a newspaper or some proof. I never said when those recent pics were taken. ;D what do you say?
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why don't you say 8:00? It's the middle of the day and it might be hard for a guy to register from work.
no, he got back from Cali last night and he is just sitting in his office catching up on shit, probably reading this ;D
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OK, the way I see it, the rules were changed to f**k my buddy out of the contest. I told Ollie that he would sign up in time and then the rules changed. Whatever, Nothing I can do about that. Heres what I propose, the competition goes on as planned. I told meat about 2500 in cash and prizes. Lets make a side bet, you vs. him. Nothing to do with the contest, but I believe it will add a little hype. Only thing I ask is that we each get to omit 1 judge, for me it would be Sarcasm. I trust 240, I will shoot him over 2500 bucks right now if you do the same and winner takes all. and pics will be taken with a newspaper or some proof. I never said when those recent pics were taken. ;D what do you say?
So you are putting up the prize money?
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So you are putting up the prize money?
yes, I will put up 2500 if you do the same.Winner takes all. Remember this has nothing to do with the contest, just a side bet. Meat will probably want to double it when he sees your pics, no offense. what do you say?
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I just pmed 240, I am sure he will have no problem holding the cash, I say he keeps 100 for the effort? do you have paypal? do you want to make it larger? whats up?
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Since you are so gung-ho about it, you put up the 2500, the winner, takes it.
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Since you are so gung-ho about it, you put up the 2500, the winner, takes it.
lol, I am quite serious. just think if you lost the contest and still beat the meat, you will get your 2500 back plus 2400(100 for 240), not bad, huh? you said you would beat him easy. If He loses, fuck it, its good entertainment.
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lol, I am quite serious. just think if you lost the contest and still beat the meat, you will get your 2500 back plus 2400(100 for 240), not bad, huh? you said you would beat him easy. If He loses, f**k it, its good entertainment.
I beat the meat. How about putting that 2500 into the Mr.Getbig,thus getting "the meat" a special invite?
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I beat the meat. How about putting that 2500 into the Mr.Getbig,thus getting "the meat" a special invite?
makes no sense, financially. Plus, many people seemed pissed about new members signing up for the contest. Can you imagine how pissed people would be if I bought his entry?(not that I would) The contest needs integrity, plus a straight up bet makes much more sense fiancially. Are you a gambler or not?
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are you yellow?
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Look, I may be new here, but I've trained for years at some of the largest bodybuilding gyms in the USA... And I'm a top amateur competitor myself. The way I see things, Adonis doesn't need to prove anything to you, and you'd be losing $2500 by betting against him. That's too much money to just throw away on a misplaced bet. Your friend is nothing special, I routinely see guys bigger and better than he is. Hell, he's skinnier than a European fashion model! Adonis, on the other hand, has a very good natural physique... he may have some structural flaws (such as triceps and forearms) but, on the whole, is far superior to 'the meat'. I actually think that Adonis stands a pretty good chance of placing very highly here.
Give it up, Danielson.
It may be worth noting that interest in the Mr. Getbig is high even among people who don't normally post on internet forums. Should be a cool contest. 8)
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Look, I may be new here, but I've trained for years at some of the largest bodybuilding gyms in the USA... And I'm a top amateur competitor myself. The way I see things, Adonis doesn't need to prove anything to you, and you'd be losing $2500 by betting against him. That's too much money to just throw away on a misplaced bet. Your friend is nothing special, I routinely see guys bigger and better than he is. Hell, he's skinnier than a European fashion model! Adonis, on the other hand, has a very good natural physique... he may have some structural flaws (such as triceps and forearms) but, on the whole, is far superior to 'the meat'. I actually think that Adonis stands a pretty good chance of placing very highly here.
Give it up, Danielson.
It may be worth noting that interest in the Mr. Getbig is high even among people who don't normally post on internet forums. Should be a cool contest. 8)
Thank you for your insight, like I said, the photos would be "recent", I never said when those shots were taken. Adonis, it looks like you should be able to win 2500 easily, according to that guy.
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I might add that with $2500 on the line, most people would be sorely tempted to run a cycle or two... It may not be entirely honorable, but nobody wants to lose money like that.
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I might add that with $2500 on the line, most people would be sorely tempted to run a cycle or two... It may not be entirely honorable, but nobody wants to lose money like that.
very good point. there would be just enough time to do one. The bet would be more feasible a week or 2 out, huh?
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I might add that with $2500 on the line, most people would be sorely tempted to run a cycle or two... It may not be entirely honorable, but nobody wants to lose money like that.
hey Maldador, I know you are more knowledgeable than me, but seriously, you really think meat has "average" legs? They look fuckin huge in person.
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hey Maldador, I know you are more knowledgeable than me, but seriously, you really think meat has "average" legs? They look fuckin huge in person.
Huge is a relative term to whoever is the observer. You apparently thought your friend was huge.
I hear people say this all the time. "Man he is huge". Well huge compared to what?
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Look, I may be new here, but I've trained for years at some of the largest bodybuilding gyms in the USA... And I'm a top amateur competitor myself. The way I see things, Adonis doesn't need to prove anything to you, and you'd be losing $2500 by betting against him. That's too much money to just throw away on a misplaced bet. Your friend is nothing special, I routinely see guys bigger and better than he is. Hell, he's skinnier than a European fashion model! Adonis, on the other hand, has a very good natural physique... he may have some structural flaws (such as triceps and forearms) but, on the whole, is far superior to 'the meat'. I actually think that Adonis stands a pretty good chance of placing very highly here.
Give it up, Danielson.
It may be worth noting that interest in the Mr. Getbig is high even among people who don't normally post on internet forums. Should be a cool contest. 8)
Thank you for the kind words!
Which organization do you compete in? NPC.
Somebody should get you some blue stars!
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Huge is a relative term to whoever is the observer. You apparently thought your friend was huge.
I hear people say this all the time. "Man he is huge". Well huge compared to what?
His legs have always been huge, imo. 30 inch quads, thats big right? we betting or not?
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hey Maldador, I know you are more knowledgeable than me, but seriously, you really think meat has "average" legs? They look fuckin huge in person.
They're certainly a hell of a lot larger than the legs of an average gym-rat, and they're clearly a standout bodypart for him... But, from what little I've seen, I'd have to say that they'd look rather average next to the legs of a decent NPC competitor. If he's natural, he's done a pretty good job with them, that's for sure...
:)
...But that's also a sort of 'Catch 22' --- his legs overpower his upper body somewhat, which makes him look narrow. Bodybuilding is all about balance, bro. I once had a friend who had massive quads -- quads that, from the side, wouldn't look out of place on a goddamn T-Rex -- they were so massive, in fact, that his upper-body (which was decent) looked really small and out-of-place sitting on top of it. Needless to say, he never did well in competiton...
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They're certainly a hell of a lot larger than the legs of an average gym-rat, and they're clearly a standout bodypart for him... But, from what little I've seen, I'd have to say that they'd look rather average next to the legs of a decent NPC competitor. If he's natural, he's done a pretty good job with them, that's for sure...
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...But that's also a sort of 'Catch 22' --- his legs overpower his upper body somewhat, which makes him look narrow. Bodybuilding is all about balance, bro. I once had a friend who had massive quads -- quads that, from the side, wouldn't look out of place on a goddamn T-Rex -- they were so massive, in fact, that his upper-body (which was decent) looked really small and out-of-place sitting on top of it. Needless to say, he never did well in competiton...
ala` Tom Platz. Memorable Legs, Forgettable Upperbody.
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ala` Tom Platz. Memorable Legs, Forgettable Upperbody.
yep, we called him Platz in high school, he actually can't train them very often, they grow too easily.
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Thank you for the kind words!
Which organization do you compete in? NPC.
Somebody should get you some blue stars!
Thanks, bro. 8) I don't want the stars, though... They'd just make me feel considerably less comfortable when giving out steroid-related information and discussing cycles. I'd prefer to remain incognito for the time being :)
You're doing real well, by the way...
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Thanks, bro. 8) I don't want the stars, though... They'd just make me feel considerably less comfortable when giving out steroid-related information and discussing cycles. I'd prefer to remain incognito for the time being :)
You're doing real well, by the way...
Its taken me a good while. I know I still need a lot of work and will improve, no matter what. I figure I can only go forward, not backwards.
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lol beat the meat ;D
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Its taken me a good while. I know I still need a lot of work and will improve, no matter what. I figure I can only go forward, not backwards.
Right, bro. The way I see things, you can only work with the hand you're dealt... and you've done a real good job with it so far. (As a natural.)
Very few people here, I think, can imagine the work I had to put in to overcome my own genetic shortcomings. That's the hardest part about bodybuilding -- not the endless eating, not the injections, but the struggle against your own body's 'setpoint' and it's genetic flaws. They can be corrected, but only at a very great cost of blood, sweat and tears. (And tendonitis, which I personally have had to deal with more than a dozen times... :( )
Here's my two cents, for what little it's worth: After the contest, take 6 months and hit your 'problem' areas with all you've got -- force them to become your best bodyparts. It's possible, believe me. Perform maintainance-only work on the rest of your body. Once you've done that, resume training as usual -- your 'good', genetically-blessed bodyparts, will soon stand out once again... and will look that much better due to better overall balance.
Another thing: If you ever want to turn to the 'dark side' -- and you should consider it eventually as you could probably go far -- I'd be very glad to help you, inasmuch as I can.
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Right, bro. The way I see things, you can only work with the hand you're dealt... and you've done a real good job with it so far. (As a natural.)
Very few people here, I think, can imagine the work I had to put in to overcome my own genetic shortcomings. That's the hardest part about bodybuilding -- not the endless eating, not the injections, but the struggle against your own body's 'setpoint' and it's genetic flaws. They can be corrected, but only at a very great cost of blood, sweat and tears. (And tendonitis, which I personally have had to deal with more than a dozen times... :( )
Here's my two cents, for what little it's worth: After the contest, take 6 months and hit your 'problem' areas with all you've got -- force them to become your best bodyparts. It's possible, believe me. Perform maintainance-only work on the rest of your body. Once you've done that, resume training as usual -- your 'good', genetically-blessed bodyparts, will soon stand out once again... and will look that much better due to better overall balance.
Another thing: If you ever want to turn to the 'dark side' -- and you should consider it eventually as you could probably go far -- I'd be very glad to help you, inasmuch as I can.
I have never specifically focused on a weak group yet. I have trained everything in an equal manner. I have given it a lot of though to do what you suggested and I think I will do that after all of this.
I may throw in a twice a week for some bodyparts. I appreciate the response. Do you think I should stay really lean?
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Right, bro. The way I see things, you can only work with the hand you're dealt... and you've done a real good job with it so far. (As a natural.)
Very few people here, I think, can imagine the work I had to put in to overcome my own genetic shortcomings. That's the hardest part about bodybuilding -- not the endless eating, not the injections, but the struggle against your own body's 'setpoint' and it's genetic flaws. They can be corrected, but only at a very great cost of blood, sweat and tears. (And tendonitis, which I personally have had to deal with more than a dozen times... :( )
Here's my two cents, for what little it's worth: After the contest, take 6 months and hit your 'problem' areas with all you've got -- force them to become your best bodyparts. It's possible, believe me. Perform maintainance-only work on the rest of your body. Once you've done that, resume training as usual -- your 'good', genetically-blessed bodyparts, will soon stand out once again... and will look that much better due to better overall balance.
Another thing: If you ever want to turn to the 'dark side' -- and you should consider it eventually as you could probably go far -- I'd be very glad to help you, inasmuch as I can.
I've been following BB along time, I'm not a national level guy or anything but I think I have a decent eye as far as evaluating a guy's physique. Tell me what you see in TA's build that has you so impressed, cause maybe you're seeing something I'm not.
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I have never specifically focused on a weak group yet. I have trained everything in an equal manner. I have given it a lot of though to do what you suggested and I think I will do that after all of this.
I may throw in a twice a week for some bodyparts. I appreciate the response. Do you think I should stay really lean?
Yeah, just give it some consideration. I think you'll be happy with the results if you give it a shot...
As for training specific bodyparts twice a week, I always train calves, forearms, lower-back and hamstrings in that manner. They're not weak points, though -- they just respond better to twice a week training... Experimenting with it might be a good idea.
Your last question is a tough one, though, as I don't really know how easy (or difficult) it is for you to shed fat. Generally speaking, it's okay to fatten up a bit, but don't 'let yourself go' completely. I know that certain pros do, but chemical assistance renders it far easier for them to burn fat than would 'naturally' be possible. Although, as previously mentioned, it really depends on your metabolism, I would advise you not to exceed 14% BF...
...But you probably know better than I do. Listen to your body and your conscience. :)
I've been following BB along time, I'm not a national level guy or anything but I think I have a decent eye as far as evaluating a guy's physique. Tell me what you see in TA's build that has you so impressed, cause maybe you're seeing something I'm not.
Look at the most recent pictures he posted. Imagine him with just 1 more inch on his triceps and forearms, and an additional 0.5" of chest depth... He'd be extremely massive and impressive for a natural bodybuilder then, wouldn't you say? He's already doing damn good for a natural, and he has all the genetic tools to go far, including very noteworthy strength. To take things to the next level, he needs to bring up his balance and turn his weaknesses into strengths. It's eminently possible, and I'm sure that he shall. (This, by the way, is what seperates the champions from the wanna-bes. People who say that bodybuilding is all drugs have clearly never had to strive to build a massive, balanced physique. It's a lot harder than most people think.)
Most importantly, perhaps: He has very good muscle insertion points (especially in the lats, pecs, biceps), and therefore lots of room to 'fill out' even further. You can build a great physique with short muscles -- look at Al Beckles, for example -- but it's much easier when you have favorable insertion points.
The bottom line: Adonis oozes potential.
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adonis has a big frame...so did katz. I think he has good bi's but that's about it. I don't find his chest to be very impressive, tri's and forearms look real small. Even though he looks like he has a large frame his shoulders look narrow to me in the front double bi, maybe he's not hitting it the right way. I can only think of one pic that shows his back...the naked one and it didn't seem to have alot of depth to me, his lats look narrow in the front double bi...again, maybe he's hitting it wrong, seems to me he's drawing his shoulders up and in. I've never seen his legs especially not the calves. I don't even think his shoulders look very big or seperated. Is the potential there to be big? Probably but the structure is way to screwed up to me. If TA is so confident, I'm sure there are some natural shows about the same time as the getbig contest, since you're gonna be so perfect why not enter them?
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Yeah, just give it some consideration. I think you'll be happy with the results if you give it a shot...
As for training specific bodyparts twice a week, I always train calves, forearms, lower-back and hamstrings in that manner. They're not weak points, though -- they just respond better to twice a week training... Experimenting with it might be a good idea.
Your last question is a tough one, though, as I don't really know how easy (or difficult) it is for you to shed fat. Generally speaking, it's okay to fatten up a bit, but don't 'let yourself go' completely. I know that certain pros do, but chemical assistance renders it far easier for them to burn fat than would 'naturally' be possible. Although, as previously mentioned, it really depends on your metabolism, I would advise you not to exceed 14% BF...
...But you probably know better than I do. Listen to your body and your conscience. :)
Look at the most recent pictures he posted. Imagine him with just 1 more inch on his triceps and forearms, and an additional 0.5" of chest depth... He'd be extremely massive and impressive for a natural bodybuilder then, wouldn't you say? He's already doing damn good for a natural, and he has all the genetic tools to go far, including very noteworthy strength. To take things to the next level, he needs to bring up his balance and turn his weaknesses into strengths. It's eminently possible, and I'm sure that he shall. (This, by the way, is what seperates the champions from the wanna-bes. People who say that bodybuilding is all drugs have clearly never had to strive to build a massive, balanced physique. It's a lot harder than most people think.)
Most importantly, perhaps: He has very good muscle insertion points (especially in the lats, pecs, biceps), and therefore lots of room to 'fill out' even further. You can build a great physique with short muscles -- look at Al Beckles, for example -- but it's much easier when you have favorable insertion points.
The bottom line: Adonis oozes potential.
I lose bodyfat VERY quickly with no cardio at all. I force myself to gain weight and actually am kind of sick of doing that because there comes a point when the weight is just pure fat. You really cannot rush a growing muscle.
What is your opinion on a bulk phase for 4 weeks followed by a cut phase and so on in the offseason?
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I lose bodyfat VERY quickly with no cardio at all. I force myself to gain weight and actually am kind of sick of doing that because there comes a point when the weight is just pure fat. You really cannot rush a growing muscle.
What is your opinion on a bulk phase for 4 weeks followed by a cut phase and so on in the offseason?
you take 2 steps forward and then 2 steps back.....
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you take 2 steps forward and then 2 steps back.....
Im not so sure about that. ARe you "DC" eating and do you really think it works and that you can "rush" a natural muscle gain?
I do not.
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you take 2 steps forward and then 2 steps back.....
That's a great way to make progress.
Is this "new math?"
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I also find it interesting what people who really know bodybuilding have to say:
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=13818.0
Getting an honest assessment that isn`t biased can be tough.
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I also find it interesting what people who really know bodybuilding have to say:
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=13818.0
Getting an honest assessment that isn`t biased can be tough.
It must feel so good to be "accepted." Especially for someone so dependant on other's acceptance.
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Im not so sure about that. ARe you "DC" eating and do you really think it works and that you can "rush" a natural muscle gain?
I do not.
honest to God, I started DC training in about July of 2004 at a weight of 194lbs, I'm not super tall. By about the end of August I was up to 211. All I did was eat protien, never rinsed my beef, never took in olive oil, just protien, protien, protien. Every 2 hours. I HAD to stop due to a family tragedy and I just started back up a few weeks ago. I didn't have my BF checked but I don't think I put on a ton of fat as I ate pretty clean, my waist got bigger but I did NO cadio. Right now I'm eating pretty much only protien, monday-saturday and then sunday I load up to restore glycogen. I just started this so I don't know if it will work.
I think DC is a very effective program, especially in as far as getting stronger. I just started at powerhouse a month ago and I'm already using the 120's for about 14 reps rest paused. I know you have issues with Dante and that's fine but as far as how effective the actual program is, I'd say very.That's a great way to make progress.
Is this "new math?"
that's a great way to pay attention to what was said. You see ta asked if someone thought doing a bulking phase followed by a cut phase was a good idea and I said "you take 2 steps forward then take 2 steps back" meaning it was not effective...maybe that was over your head?
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Ironage...a dying breed...it's too bad because that's when bodybuilding was more of an art.
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Is the potential there to be big? Probably but the structure is way to screwed up to me.
Okay. Now, I have one question for you: What is 'structure'? Is it not simply a catch-all term for 'frame and insertion-points/muscle length'? His frame is fine -- it looks like it can hold a lot of muscle, and is therefore very good for lifting and bodybuilding. His muscle insertion points are also fine, for the most part... His forearms kinda remind me of Beckles' -- who, BTW, was an Olympia runner-up -- but everything else is 'long' and therefore favorable for bodybuilding. Adonis's only real problem is that certain muscles have grown out-of-proportion with the rest of his physique... Human nature being what it is, instead of seeing those bodyparts as strengths, we see everything else as weaknesses... But those 'weaknesses' can be corrected. With enough force of will, it can be done.
I lose bodyfat VERY quickly with no cardio at all. I force myself to gain weight and actually am kind of sick of doing that because there comes a point when the weight is just pure fat. You really cannot rush a growing muscle.
What is your opinion on a bulk phase for 4 weeks followed by a cut phase and so on in the offseason?
I'll reply to this at-length tomorrow. I'm running late for an important engagement I've had planned. If I could stay on this forum and chat, I would. Believe me.
No more posts today. Bye, fellas.
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Okay. Now, I have one question for you: What is 'structure'? Is it not simply a catch-all term for 'frame and insertion-points/muscle length'? His frame is fine -- it looks like it can hold a lot of muscle, and is therefore very good for lifting and bodybuilding. His muscle insertion points are also fine, for the most part... His forearms kinda remind me of Beckles' -- who, BTW, was an Olympia runner-up -- but everything else is 'long' and therefore favorable for bodybuilding. Adonis's only real problem is that certain muscles have grown out-of-proportion with the rest of his physique... Human nature being what it is, instead of seeing those bodyparts as strengths, we see everything else as weaknesses... But those 'weaknesses' can be corrected. With enough force of will, it can be done.
I'll reply to this at-length tomorrow. I'm running late for an important engagement I've had planned. If I could stay on this forum and chat, I would. Believe me.
No more posts today. Bye, fellas.
when I speak about structure I'm talking about mostly shoulder to waist ratio. To me he look pretty much straight up and down, no real "flair" to the shoulders and no width to the lats. Being tall is a advantage but not the give all end all. I'd have to see other pics to evaluate muscle insertion points. he probably has some thick bones so he can have the "illusion" of carrying a ton of mass. Lets take the bi's, they are good, highly peaked but I don't remember thinking they were very long. Really that's all I can evaluate right now, I don't have the pics in front of me nor do I have anything else to go off of, just memory.
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Okay. Now, I have one question for you: What is 'structure'? Is it not simply a catch-all term for 'frame and insertion-points/muscle length'? His frame is fine -- it looks like it can hold a lot of muscle, and is therefore very good for lifting and bodybuilding.
I agree. Adonis has a wide frame, large ribcage, and tiny waist. He is built to support alot of muscle, as evidenced by the amount of muscle in his back. He's extremely thick and strong. His bones are narrow though - as seen in his wrists, which is good, because it reiterates the large size of his muscles.
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he probably has some thick bones so he can have the "illusion" of carrying a ton of mass.
It's the opposite - long narrow bones. He has small wrists, ankles...
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I agree. Adonis has a wide frame, large ribcage, and tiny waist. He is built to support alot of muscle, as evidenced by the amount of muscle in his back. He's extremely thick and strong. His bones are narrow though - as seen in his wrists, which is good, because it reiterates the large size of his muscles.
I agree. Adonis has a wide frame, large ribcage, and tiny waist. He is built to support alot of muscle, as evidenced by the amount of muscle in his back. He's extremely thick and strong. His bones are narrow though - as seen in his wrists, which is good, because it reiterates the large size of his muscles.
post a pic showing the depth of his ribcage, it does not look to have much depth in the pics I've seen but I'm going off of memeory.
It's the opposite - long narrow bones. He has small wrists, ankles...
I said probably,maybe I'm wrong....is he an ecto?
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Flex WAS NOT sub 250!!!!!
You are clueless as well.
Flex august 2006 issue page 148
article on ronnie colemans first... win in 1998
and i quote
"When the free for all all segment of the posedown sparked into like, ronnie, knowing he had to win this round, went straight after flex and deposited his 249lb frame next to his quarrys 230.
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Flex august 2006 issue page 148
article on ronnie colemans first... win in 1998
and i quote
"When the free for all all segment of the posedown sparked into like, ronnie, knowing he had to win this round, went straight after flex and deposited his 249lb frame next to his quarrys 230.
It's hopeless. Much like the miniature wiener dog, who refuses to believe he is anything less than a rottweiler, Adonis will go on believing what he wants.
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i guess if your happy with your build and your training thats all that matters,i just thank god i can go to the gym everymorning and enjoy a good hard workout
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i guess if your happy with your build and your training thats all that matters,i just thank god i can go to the gym everymorning and enjoy a good hard workout
Did you just watch that credit card commercial with "100 years," by five for fighting playing in the background?
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i guess if your happy with your build and your training thats all that matters,i just thank god i can go to the gym everymorning and enjoy a good hard workout
you seem like a well grounded dude. Nice to see people on here who are happy with their lives.
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you seem like a well grounded dude. Nice to see people on here who are happy with their lives.
thanks man,its just that im 41 years old and my outlook might be alittle different then someone thats 20 or so,when you hit my age and go through all the injuries and crap you really appreciate being able to pump iron,yous younger bucks will understand in years down the line when your body aches just to get out of bed in the morning
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thanks man,its just that im 41 years old and my outlook might be alittle different then someone thats 20 or so,when you hit my age and go through all the injuries and crap you really appreciate being able to pump iron,yous younger bucks will understand in years down the line when your body aches just to get out of bed in the morning
at 40 ::)
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at 40 ::)
40 is the new 90.
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both bast and adonis like the goat pipe ;D
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bast has good physique...
better than adonis imo..
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thanks man,its just that im 41 years old and my outlook might be alittle different then someone thats 20 or so,when you hit my age and go through all the injuries and crap you really appreciate being able to pump iron,yous younger bucks will understand in years down the line when your body aches just to get out of bed in the morning
no shit. i can remember 10 years ago lifting hard and heavy like a madman. never got hurt and used to love being sore all the time. trained very intense for 15 years. now i've had to scale off due to shoulder pain, knee pain, back pain, etc, etc. still pack good size and strength but must use caution everytime in the gym.
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Ronnie Coleman is like 42 and still trains more intense than anyone ::)
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Okay. Now, I have one question for you: What is 'structure'? Is it not simply a catch-all term for 'frame and insertion-points/muscle length'? His frame is fine -- it looks like it can hold a lot of muscle, and is therefore very good for lifting and bodybuilding. His muscle insertion points are also fine, for the most part... His forearms kinda remind me of Beckles' -- who, BTW, was an Olympia runner-up -- but everything else is 'long' and therefore favorable for bodybuilding. Adonis's only real problem is that certain muscles have grown out-of-proportion with the rest of his physique... Human nature being what it is, instead of seeing those bodyparts as strengths, we see everything else as weaknesses... But those 'weaknesses' can be corrected. With enough force of will, it can be done.
I'll reply to this at-length tomorrow. I'm running late for an important engagement I've had planned. If I could stay on this forum and chat, I would. Believe me.
No more posts today. Bye, fellas.
Bump for Malordor.
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I lose bodyfat VERY quickly with no cardio at all. I force myself to gain weight and actually am kind of sick of doing that because there comes a point when the weight is just pure fat. You really cannot rush a growing muscle.
What is your opinion on a bulk phase for 4 weeks followed by a cut phase and so on in the offseason?
I've given this some thought. (I've had to... It's been a while since the days I trained 'natural', and most of the guys I give advice to are no strangers to the juice.) I think that the best way to go about achieving your post-contest goals would be to go on a rather mild, yet prolonged 'bulking' phase. The objective here would be to pack on lean mass over the course of several months -- even up to a year, if you see fit.
Actually, if you train hard and eat right, it may be a while before you have to diet... If I were you, my 'goal' would be to gain a pound of muscle a week. (An almost impossible task for most naturals... This would be 55 pounds in a year!) It's a very lofty goal -- probably impossible -- and if not impossible, certainly unsustainable. But I need to make an important point, to gain one pound of muscle per week, you only need to consume about 100 calories over maintainence per day. 5000-6000 calorie diets are flat-out counterproductive for healthy (read: 'not dangerously underweight') natural bodybuilders; they're only of real use to 110-pound hardgainers looking for fast mass, football linebackers, and steroid users with superhuman protein synthesis rates...
There is a certain level of calories that are required to maintain a person's bodyweight. To gain muscle with minimal fat, assuming your training is in order, you simply need to consume slightly more calories than your maintenance level. To lose weight, slightly less. Hormones, hypo/hyper-thyroidism, and extremely high-intensity/high-volume training can skew the equasion a bit, but that shouldn't be an issue for you.
Bulking the way most novice bodybuilders bulk is, in my opinion, a less-than-optimal way to go about gaining muscle. Eat clean, don't eat too much, and you'll make steady lean gains over time...
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I've given this some thought. (I've had to... It's been a while since the days I trained 'natural', and most of the guys I give advice to are no strangers to the juice.) I think that the best way to go about achieving your post-contest goals would be to go on a rather mild, yet prolonged 'bulking' phase. The objective here would be to pack on lean mass over the course of several months -- even up to a year, if you see fit.
Actually, if you train hard and eat right, it may be a while before you have to diet... If I were you, my 'goal' would be to gain a pound of muscle a week. (An almost impossible task for most naturals... This would be 55 pounds in a year!) It's a very lofty goal -- probably impossible -- and if not impossible, certainly unsustainable. But I need to make an important point, to gain one pound of muscle per week, you only need to consume about 100 calories over maintainence per day. 5000-6000 calorie diets are flat-out counterproductive for healthy (read: 'not dangerously underweight') natural bodybuilders; they're only of real use to 110-pound hardgainers looking for fast mass, football linebackers, and steroid users with superhuman protein synthesis rates...
There is a certain level of calories that are required to maintain a person's bodyweight. To gain muscle with minimal fat, assuming your training is in order, you simply need to consume slightly more calories than your maintenance level. To lose weight, slightly less. Hormones, hypo/hyper-thyroidism, and extremely high-intensity/high-volume training can skew the equasion a bit, but that shouldn't be an issue for you.
Bulking the way most novice bodybuilders bulk is, in my opinion, a less-than-optimal way to go about gaining muscle. Eat clean, don't eat too much, and you'll make steady lean gains over time...
VERY SOUND ADVICE.
Thank you!
What were your gains natural compared to non-natural and did you reach a "limit" naturally where you felt progression was at a standstill?
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very sound advice for people that started bodybuilding last week
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VERY SOUND ADVICE.
Thank you!
What were your gains natural compared to non-natural and did you reach a "limit" naturally where you felt progression was at a standstill?
When I started bodybuilding I was an underweight 16 year old kid... But I took it pretty damn seriously, and was about 200 pounds at 6'1" by the time I graduated from high school. I eventually 'plateaued' at a very lean 215 pounds, which is when I started juicing. (Yeah, I know: "Monster genetics." ;) )When I say 'plateau', I only mean that it became much, much harder to make gains. I had to train with extreme intensity to force my body into growth -- which in itself was little problem, but it all became difficult due to injuries sustained. In retrospect, I could have probably busted that plateau naturally... but hindsight is always 20/20, eh? I gained over 30 pounds off my first cycle -- which was 16 weeks of moderately-dosed test cyp + deca -- and kept just over 20 after PCT. I kept cycling, and the gains kept coming. I never looked back...
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When I started bodybuilding I was an underweight 16 year old kid... But I took it pretty damn seriously, and was about 200 pounds at 6'1" by the time I graduated from high school. I eventually 'plateaued' at a very lean 215 pounds, which is when I started juicing. (Yeah, I know: "Monster genetics." ;) )When I say 'plateau', I only mean that it became much, much harder to make gains. I had to train with extreme intensity to force my body into growth -- which in itself was little problem, but it all became difficult due to injuries sustained. In retrospect, I could have probably busted that plateau naturally... but hindsight is always 20/20, eh? I gained over 30 pounds off my first cycle -- which was 16 weeks of moderately-dosed test cyp + deca -- and kept just over 20 after PCT. I kept cycling, and the gains kept coming. I never looked back...
Closing in on PRO status?
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Closing in on PRO status?
Hahahah... Not yet, bro. I work a steady job, have to travel a lot, and I'm still rather young compared to most of today's pros. Maybe in a few years. Really, I've got my work cut out for me... It's one thing to be big, and quite another to stand on a pro stage. Those guys really are the best in the world -- and, as much as they're slammed here (sometimes deservedly), the effort they put in is astounding, and they all have my respect. Yes, even Kamali. :)
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post a pic showing the depth of his ribcage, it does not look to have much depth in the pics I've seen but I'm going off of memeory.
I said probably,maybe I'm wrong....is he an ecto?
This is what I have for now...
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Why he dosn't shave that dogshit 'stache...
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Ronnie Coleman is like 42 and still trains more intense than anyone ::)
ronnie ain't like everyone else. besides I did alot of olympic lifts. far more destructive on the body over time. but good point, doing what he does at 42 is unreal. although i'm willing to bet he's lightened the load.
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TA voted for person most full of himself at getbig.
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Bluto is a douche bag.
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Bluto is a douche bag.
he still watches his parents fucking. a man with no shame.