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I believe the bar weighs 25 lbs so this is 185 lbs total. This is the first time I have done EZ-bar curls in a while:
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i can get 185 on a straight bar for a good 10 reps, it was funny cause i did it today, and could hear some redneck snickering "he's juicin, he's gotta be" hahahah funny shit. he was like "im not making any progress" so i butted in there conversation and said "man u gotta start doing cardio" poor guy looked shocked hahaha
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I believe the bar weighs 25 lbs so this is 185 lbs total. This is the first time I have done EZ-bar curls in a while:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA is that the one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl1XrHeG1WI&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl1XrHeG1WI&mode=related&search=)
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LOL Alex! If the neck was any longer he'd be eating the leaves off of tall trees.
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Chris doesn't your back hurt? seems like you were doing more back than biceps.
monster use of "motion"
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Chris doesn't your back hurt? seems like you were doing more back than biceps.
monster use of "motion"
also, buy a bulb, they are pretty cheap these days
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Put your back up against a wall and do that, you'll hit your arms better ;)
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also, buy a bulb, they are pretty cheap these days
Last I heard you can buy a pack for like a buck.
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that was a joke right? some skinny ass guy, who looks very bad, throwing around 180 pounds!! if he kept his back straight, he could not even do ONE...
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swinging!!!
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I think he's just about ready for..
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I believe the bar weighs 25 lbs so this is 185 lbs total. This is the first time I have done EZ-bar curls in a while:
Nice back and legs workout dude. I will make sure to add this to my routine on back and legs day
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that was a joke right? some skinny ass guy, who looks very bad, throwing around 180 pounds!! if he kept his back straight, he could not even do ONE...
Its likely that he's stronger than you
.. and natural.
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You're suppose to train your muscles, not your ego.
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Wow! Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single. That was over a year ago and I am stronger now. Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form. MONSTER jealousy by some. Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.
......crickets.....chirp ing.....
Right, that's what I thought you morons.
Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.
One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl? You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
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Wow! Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single. That was over a year ago and I am stronger now. Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form. MONSTER jealousy by some. Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.
......crickets.....chirp ing.....
Right, that's what I thought you morons.
Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.
One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl? You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
Do you wish me to duplicate this lift with better form?
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Chris, were you training lower back?
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that was a joke right? some skinny ass guy, who looks very bad, throwing around 180 pounds!! if he kept his back straight, he could not even do ONE...
You took the words right out of my mouth.
PB
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Its likely that he's stronger than you
.. and natural.
Means nothing if you look like shit. How many times do you see a guy alternating a pair of 60lbs dumbbells in a gym and his arms are spagetti?
PB
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Wow! Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single. That was over a year ago and I am stronger now. Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form. MONSTER jealousy by some. Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.
......crickets.....chirp ing.....
Right, that's what I thought you morons.
Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.
One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl? You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
Chris, we know that you are a strong guy but that little demonstration only showed how flexible your back is.
what if someone did dead lifts in an attempt to prove how strong their triceps are...what would that prove?
I know that you are smarter than that....
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Maybe Chris likes to train biceps and back?
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i thought it was very good form considering the weight used...Im a very weak guy, but that its not little weight for sure...
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Chris, we know that you are a strong guy but that little demonstration only showed how flexible your back is.
what if someone did dead lifts in an attempt to prove how strong their triceps are...what would that prove?
I know that you are smarter than that....
WTF are you talking about TA?
First, the form was not bad at all. Let's see what you can do.
Next, why do you think it is that virtually all big and strong men train with a little bit of a loose style when curling? The reason revolves around the physics of the movement. The "sticking point" in a barbell movement is a function of the position of the barbell as it moves through space. This sticking point is one of the drawbacks of barbell training but can be partially overcome using a style that is just loose enough to allow one to bypass said point in the ROM. This allows for more work to be done and thus greater stimulation to the involved musculature.
So, like I said, I will prop my back against a wall and do the same weight for a couple of reps and then I challenge anyone on this site other than Lee Priest and perhaps a few other pros to do any better (yes, this means YOU TA and all of your Troll accounts as well as the other peanut gallery members).
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Wow! Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single. That was over a year ago and I am stronger now. Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form. MONSTER jealousy by some. Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.
......crickets.....chirp ing.....
Right, that's what I thought you morons.
Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.
One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl? You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
meltdown upon hearing the truth, BTW monster reverse grip cleans.
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You're suppose to train your muscles, not your ego.
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very well said
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WTF are you talking about TA?
First, the form was not bad at all. Let's see what you can do.
Next, why do you think it is that virtually all big and strong men train with a little bit of a loose style when curling? The reason revolves around the physics of the movement. The "sticking point" in a barbell movement is a function of the position of the barbell as it moves through space. This sticking point is one of the drawbacks of barbell training but can be partially overcome using a style that is just loose enough to allow one to bypass said point in the ROM. This allows for more work to be done and thus greater stimulation to the involved musculature.
So, like I said, I will prop my back against a wall and do the same weight for a couple of reps and then I challenge anyone on this site other than Lee Priest and perhaps a few other pros to do any better (yes, this means YOU TA and all of your Troll accounts as well as the other peanut gallery members).
huh, are you talking to me or TA?
as someone said before "train your muscles not your ego"
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that was Mr Anabolic who said that in this thread
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WTF are you talking about TA?
First, the form was not bad at all. Let's see what you can do.
Next, why do you think it is that virtually all big and strong men train with a little bit of a loose style when curling? The reason revolves around the physics of the movement. The "sticking point" in a barbell movement is a function of the position of the barbell as it moves through space. This sticking point is one of the drawbacks of barbell training but can be partially overcome using a style that is just loose enough to allow one to bypass said point in the ROM. This allows for more work to be done and thus greater stimulation to the involved musculature.
So, like I said, I will prop my back against a wall and do the same weight for a couple of reps and then I challenge anyone on this site other than Lee Priest and perhaps a few other pros to do any better (yes, this means YOU TA and all of your Troll accounts as well as the other peanut gallery members).
dude do you honestly believe that you're a "big, strong guy"? you look like you're 180lbs. with 15 inch arms in that video.
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that was Mr Anabolic who said that in this thread
chris just challenged anyone to a back flexing contest using biceps curls as a supporting instrument...monster
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dude do you honestly believe that you're a "big, strong guy"? you look like you're 180lbs. with 15 inch arms in that video.
Oh yeah, he's tiny. ::)
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I am talking to all of your online alter-egos you goof.
Sarcasm, errrrrr TA, errrr Steele Pagasus, errr Reardon Metal, errrr whatever, yes, I think I am a strong and a decent sized guy for a natural. Do I define myself as "big" relative to pro bodybuilders or some of the bigger powerlifters? HECK NO! I am not an idiot but you ARE. My arms measure 18+" cold. That is a fact. You can believe it or not. Tell you what, I will be at the Arnold Classic why don't you make the trek and we can compare arms and then have a little lifting contest?
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Do you wish me to duplicate this lift with better form?
You mean relatively?
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He actually used very good form in that video. The first few reps were pretty much perfect. It is almost impossible to curl that kind of weight with textbook form. You will start to fall forward if you don't bend your back a little. It's pretty obvious that most of these jealous punks have never trained around strong people.
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He actually used very good form in that video. The first few reps were pretty much perfect. It is almost impossible to curl that kind of weight with textbook form. You will start to fall forward if you don't bend your back a little. It's pretty obvious that most of these jealous punks have never trained around strong people.
yeah a 45 and two tens on each side of a 15lb. EZ bar is HUGE weight. ::)
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Oh yeah, he's tiny. ::)
Looking like a big bag of snacks.
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I am talking to all of your online alter-egos you goof.
Sarcasm, errrrrr TA, errrr Steele Pagasus, errr Reardon Metal, errrr whatever, yes, I think I am a strong and a decent sized guy for a natural. Do I define myself as "big" relative to pro bodybuilders or some of the bigger powerlifters? HECK NO! I am not an idiot but you ARE. My arms measure 18+" cold. That is a fact. You can believe it or not. Tell you what, I will be at the Arnold Classic why don't you make the trek and we can compare arms and then have a little lifting contest?
Please, for the love of god, don't lump me in with those guys.
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Looking like a big bag of snacks.
Well, that was over a year ago and I am leaner now. I was not competing that was my normal body fat.
Next, try posting under just one alias.
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Wow! Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single. That was over a year ago and I am stronger now. Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form. MONSTER jealousy by some. Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.
......crickets.....chirp ing.....
Right, that's what I thought you morons.
Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.
One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl? You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
Good to see you with some edge and a sense of humor......carry on!!
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Please, for the love of god, don't lump me in with those guys.
Please...
TA has professed his love of Rand and Reardon metal was a corporation owned by one of the protagonists in Atlas Shrugged. It is too convenient...
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Good to see you with some edge and a sense of humor......carry on!!
;)
Getbig must be rubbing off on me! ;D
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I am talking to all of your online alter-egos you goof.
Sarcasm, errrrrr TA, errrr Steele Pagasus, errr Reardon Metal, errrr whatever, yes, I think I am a strong and a decent sized guy for a natural. Do I define myself as "big" relative to pro bodybuilders or some of the bigger powerlifters? HECK NO! I am not an idiot but you ARE. My arms measure 18+" cold. That is a fact. You can believe it or not. Tell you what, I will be at the Arnold Classic why don't you make the trek and we can compare arms and then have a little lifting contest?
there is absolutely no way that your arms are 18 inches.
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yeah a 45 and two tens on each side of a 15lb. EZ bar is HUGE weight. ::)
I know you are the biggest moron on the boards but if you look again you will see there is a 45, 25, and a 10 on each side which equates to 185 lbs.
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Looking like a big bag of snacks.
Do you see those muscles hanging down from behind his armpits? Those are called "lats". Try growing some.
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there is absolutely no way that your arms are 18 inches.
How would you like me to prove it? So that you cannot weasel out of this YOU pick the way.
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Chris,
it`s no question that you put a lot of effort into your sets....that`s is one thing that is important for progressing, "but" also there is a thin line between heavy training and too heavy training. Also the risk of injury is a thing you must think of.....
So, keep motivated, cut down the weights, and progress with a better form (too strict is also not the best option, but do the movements in a decent form).
Keep on pumping !!
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Chris,
it`s no question that you put a lot of effort into your sets....that`s is one thing that is important for progressing, "but" also there is a thin line between heavy training and too heavy training. Also the risk of injury is a thing you must think of.....
So, keep motivated, cut down the weights, and progress with a better form (too strict is also not the best option, but do the movements in a decent form).
Keep on pumping !!
You and I will just have to differ on what we consider good form. My first 4 reps were using good form in my mind.
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Wow! Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single. That was over a year ago and I am stronger now. Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form. MONSTER jealousy by some. Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.
......crickets.....chirp ing.....
Right, that's what I thought you morons.
Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.
One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl? You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
Nice talk for a business man. Dude thicken up that skin. It's Get Big after all.
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Chris, with all due respect your form is piss poor. Are you trying to get big or just throw heavy weights around? Don't lose sight of your goals dude. If you enjoy the weight throwing more than getting bigger then fair enough, and maybe you should consider olympic weight lifting, you certainly seem to have the knack for it.
Try this form and see how you get on:
Starting from the standing position, a medium width supinated grip as before. Lean over very slightly so that your shoulder are slightly infront of your waist. Keep your elbows in tight to your sides. Lift the barbell. Keep the elbows still tight in at your sides - don't let them drift forward. This will mean the barbell will have to arc around your fixed elbows, rather than the barbell going straight up in a line and your elbows moving out to cater for this as with your previous form. Your movement will end when your biceps and forearms meet, at approximately 70 - 75 degrees - there will still be a lot of resistance and so you will not be able to rest.
Slowly lower the weight, but don't go to full extenstion, keep resistance upon the biceps, probably25 degrees or so. Repeat until failure, possibly followed by drop sets or forced reps if a spotter is available. Let me know how you get on ;)
Think about this: All your biceps know is how hard to tense. They don't even know what exercise you're doing, let alone how much weight you're swinging around.
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Chris, with all due respect your form is piss poor. Are you trying to get big or just throw heavy weights around? Don't lose sight of your goals dude. If you enjoy the weight throwing more than getting bigger then fair enough, and maybe you should consider olympic weight lifting, you certainly seem to have the knack for it.
Nice in theory & fairly predictable but the reality is that most guys with 20"+ arms use form like this or looser. Very few guys with great arms use the supposedly "better", ultra strict style on curls; for that do scott curls or use an arm blaster.
Think about this: All your biceps know is how hard to tense. They don't even know what exercise you're doing, let alone how much weight you're swinging around.
Common rationale for the stricter style. Actually all the bis care about is whether they're fried at the end of the workout, which can be accomplished just as well using a looser style-Schwarzenegger's fave bi size builder was cheat curls. ;D
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Nice in theory & fairly predictable but the reality is that most guys with 20"+ arms use form like this or looser. Very few guys with great arms use the supposedly "better", ultra strict style on curls, get that instead from Scott curls.
Seem to be confusing shit loads of drugs for good results from poor form ... ;)
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Nice in theory & fairly predictable but the reality is that most guys with 20"+ arms use form like this or looser. Very few guys with great arms use the supposedly "better", ultra strict style on curls; for that do scott curls or use an arm blaster.
Not true.
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Do you see those muscles hanging down from behind his armpits? Those are called "lats". Try growing some.
Do you see that big rod of engorged manflesh in your mouth? That's called a penis. Quit suckin on it.
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With Chris Mason`s form he is using less force and tension with the bicep. The bicep is certainly not bearing the tension it would if he lowered the weight by 50 lbs and did these curls very slow.
The bicep would, in fact be more stressed and perform more work in this manner. This full body Curl is just silly for biceps, but good for weight throwing training.
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Seem to be confusing shit loads of drugs for good results from poor form ...
Thanx for the reminder-another of the canned responses is to attribute something only to drugs.
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Thanx for the reminder-another of the canned responses is to attribute something only to drugs.
Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans. Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.
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I am talking to all of your online alter-egos you goof.
Sarcasm, errrrrr TA, errrr Steele Pagasus, errr Reardon Metal, errrr whatever, yes, I think I am a strong and a decent sized guy for a natural. Do I define myself as "big" relative to pro bodybuilders or some of the bigger powerlifters? HECK NO! I am not an idiot but you ARE. My arms measure 18+" cold. That is a fact. You can believe it or not. Tell you what, I will be at the Arnold Classic why don't you make the trek and we can compare arms and then have a little lifting contest?
Chris, do me a favor? please dont' group me with those guys
just because I noticed that you are doing more back than biceps doesn't mean that I am one of TA's troll accounts.
As I have stated many times I have little respect of TA. He has made tremendous gains but his behavior over shadows his accomplishments. I actually appreciate your posts in general. But clearly you are lifting for your ego in this case
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Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans. Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.
Amen. We're bodybuilders people, not power lifters.
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Do you see those muscles hanging down from behind his armpits? Those are called "lats". Try growing some.
Chris also looks like he trains his legs, Adonis should try that as well.
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Chris, do me a favor? please dont' group me with those guys
just because I noticed that you are doing more back than biceps doesn't mean that I am one of TA's troll accounts.
As I have stated many times I have little respect of TA. He has made tremendous gains but his behavior over shadows his accomplishments. I actually appreciate your posts in general. But clearly you are lifting for your ego in this case
And your behavior towards my girlfriend and myself have Always been less than stellar. Don`t act like you are innocent. Furthermore you should be able to separate someones accomplishments and personal bias/hatred and not meld them together.
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Chris also looks like he trains his legs, Adonis should try that as well.
Try showing your own. Chances are you will be just like the rest of the picture posters lately, way behind.
If not, prove me wrong.
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Chris, with all due respect your form is piss poor. Are you trying to get big or just throw heavy weights around? Don't lose sight of your goals dude. If you enjoy the weight throwing more than getting bigger then fair enough, and maybe you should consider olympic weight lifting, you certainly seem to have the knack for it.
Try this form and see how you get on:
Starting from the standing position, a medium width supinated grip as before. Lean over very slightly so that your shoulder are slightly infront of your waist. Keep your elbows in tight to your sides. Lift the barbell. Keep the elbows still tight in at your sides - don't let them drift forward. This will mean the barbell will have to arc around your fixed elbows, rather than the barbell going straight up in a line and your elbows moving out to cater for this as with your previous form. Your movement will end when your biceps and forearms meet, at approximately 70 - 75 degrees - there will still be a lot of resistance and so you will not be able to rest.
Slowly lower the weight, but don't go to full extenstion, keep resistance upon the biceps, probably25 degrees or so. Repeat until failure, possibly followed by drop sets or forced reps if a spotter is available. Let me know how you get on ;)
Think about this: All your biceps know is how hard to tense. They don't even know what exercise you're doing, let alone how much weight you're swinging around.
What exactly will this do for me all-knowing training guru? Better yet, let's see a pic of you. Right, that is what I thought.
Look, I have been training longer than most of the members here have been alive AND I have trained with both professional bodybuilders and top level powerlifters. I know WTF I am speaking of and you obviously don't.
Chris
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Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans. Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.
Ok, first, Gunter is no bigger today than he was 5 years ago.
Next, the real question is HOW did Gunter initially build his mass? I GUARANTEE it was not with pussy weights using ultra-strict form.
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What exactly will this do for me all-knowing training guru? Better yet, let's see a pic of you. Right, that is what I thought.
Look, I have been training longer than most of the members here have been alive AND I have trained with both professional bodybuilders and top level powerlifters. I know WTF I am speaking of and you obviously don't.
Chris
What's your problem dude? You show your shit form off to all here and then when you get some negative feedback (but also constructive from me, at least) you act like you're gods gift when clearly you're just a little pumped up prick with a monster of an ego.
Don't post your vids here dude if all you want is false adulation and faint praise.
Ah fuck it. Is this what you want:
WOW!! OMFG!!! Look at the weight on that bar!! Incredible!! You MUST be FUCKING huge to lift that sort of weight!!! My god, perfect form too!! Shit me!!! *faints*
Dude, ffs, swinging the weight up and getting your elbows underneath the bar at the earliest possiblity is not how to train your biceps. Get a grip.
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Ok, first, Gunter is no bigger today than he was 5 years ago.
Next, the real question is HOW did Gunter initially build his mass? I GUARANTEE it was not with pussy weights using ultra-strict form.
The amount of weight used does not equal a muscle gain. You are showing that you really don`t know a whole lot about how muscles grow....
If the sheer amount of weight was responsible for a physique then this guy would dwarf you as he is able to outlift you on any movment and he weighs 135 lbs. Certainly his lifting prowess is due to physics dictated by his bone length and low center of gravity as well, but you get the picture.
Sadly, he does not dwarf you.
How tall are you Chris?.....I can find 20 guys,same height as you, able to lift more weight than you can, but are considerably less muscular.
Weight used does not dictate a larger muscle. Weight is not the end all.
(http://watserv1.uwaterloo.ca/~turks/famous/naim.jpg)
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Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans. Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.
For his height, his arms are nowhere near the size of guys who've used looser form, like Coleman & Schwarzenegger; all his training proves is that it's another way of training.
Nice in theory & fairly predictable but the reality is that most guys with 20"+ arms use form like this or looser. Very few guys with great arms use the supposedly "better", ultra strict style on curls; for that do scott curls or use an arm blaster.
Not true.
No proof.
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For his height, his arms are nowhere near the size of guys who've used looser form, like Coleman & Schwarzenegger; all his training proves is that it's another way of training.
No proof.
Gunthers arms are bigger than Schwarzenegger`s in his prime and arguable bigger than Ronnie Colemans.
Some pictures are probably in order comparing...Preferably where he beat Ronnie at the GNC.
Compare them and you will see.
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Gunthers arms are bigger than Schwarzenegger`s in his prime and arguable bigger than Ronnie Colemans.
Some pictures are probably in order comparing...Preferably where he beat Ronnie at the GNC.
Compare them and you will see.
I have no idea the size of gunters arms. But in offseason mode they are gigantic. way bigger than any other pros imo.
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Gunthers arms are bigger than Schwarzenegger`s in his prime and arguable bigger than Ronnie Colemans.
Are you new to BB? Even if they're physically bigger (debatable) they're nowhere near as big or of the same volume relative to height and structure. In the same way that Ferrigno's arms were bigger than Schwarzennegger's but were not in the same ballpark. Gunter needs 3" on each arm to be in Coleman's league.
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If the amount of weight used dictated muscular size, than this guy would dwarf any IFBB pro and even Chris Mason.
Now this is impressive.
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dude do you honestly believe that you're a "big, strong guy"? you look like you're 180lbs. with 15 inch arms in that video.
Exactly, good point. By curling that amount of weight properly you should have something in terms of arms size to show forit. You don't.
PB
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If the amount of weight used dictated muscular size, than this guy would dwarf any IFBB pro
No one said the weight used is the only variable, just as strict reps aren't essential either.
Heavy weight does matter, not alone but in combo with moderate reps & effective exercises that are felt in the muscle. Strict reps aren't required if those things are satisfied.
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Wow! Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single. That was over a year ago and I am stronger now. Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form. MONSTER jealousy by some. Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.
......crickets.....chirp ing.....
Right, that's what I thought you morons.
Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.
One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl? You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
hey whats wrong with 15" arms(not that i have them but if i did i worked hard for them)?
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This is VERY Impressive to watch....Pyros Training.
&NR
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WOW!!!!!! :o
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For me, developing big, strong arms has required a combo of heavy/light free weight movements, machine/cable movements, basic compound movements and a lot of consistent training over the years. Drugs can help, but aren't necessary. TA is correct muscular size does not always translate into similar strength. There are no universal training regimens, but there are some common training methodologies that will work for most.
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The amount of weight used does not equal a muscle gain. You are showing that you really don`t know a whole lot about how muscles grow....
If the sheer amount of weight was responsible for a physique then this guy would dwarf you as he is able to outlift you on any movment and he weighs 135 lbs. Certainly his lifting prowess is due to physics dictated by his bone length and low center of gravity as well, but you get the picture.
Sadly, he does not dwarf you.
How tall are you Chris?.....I can find 20 guys,same height as you, able to lift more weight than you can, but are considerably less muscular.
Weight used does not dictate a larger muscle. Weight is not the end all.
(http://watserv1.uwaterloo.ca/~turks/famous/naim.jpg)
I never stated that load was the sole factor in growth. It is a factor, yes. In fact, all other factors being equal load plays a HUGE role in hypertrophy.
Olympic lifters tend not to be overly muscular in the same sense as a bodybuilder because the movments they practice only place a truly heavy load on the traps, lower back, and legs to a lesser degree. Otherwise the movements by virtue of their nature do no place nearly the same degree of tension on the musculature as do traditional bodybuilding and powerlifting movements.
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I never stated that load was the sole factor in growth. It is a factor, yes. In fact, all other factors being equal load plays a HUGE role in hypertrophy.
Olympic lifters tend not to be overly muscular in the same sense as a bodybuilder because the movments they practice only place a truly heavy load on the traps, lower back, and legs to a lesser degree. Otherwise the movements by virtue of their nature do no place nearly the same degree of tension on the musculature as do traditional bodybuilding and powerlifting movements.
yep, bodybuilder train for muscle growth not so much strength gain. That is why the strongest man is not always the winner on a bodybuilding stage
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I never stated that load was the sole factor in growth. It is a factor, yes. In fact, all other factors being equal load plays a HUGE role in hypertrophy.
Olympic lifters tend not to be overly muscular in the same sense as a bodybuilder because the movments they practice only place a truly heavy load on the traps, lower back, and legs to a lesser degree. Otherwise the movements by virtue of their nature do no place nearly the same degree of tension on the musculature as do traditional bodybuilding and powerlifting movements.
Just like there was no truly heavy load on your biceps in your curl video. Agreed.
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Just like there was no truly heavy load on your biceps in your curl video. Agreed.
on page one someone said that he was building his ego and not muscle..so true
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monster darkness
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Just like there was no truly heavy load on your biceps in your curl video. Agreed.
You truly have to be an inbred moron. You speak about not allowing emotion to enter into the equation and then your wanton jealousy compels you to make asinine statements about my video. It really is a pity.
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monster darkness
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I agree. I really didn't think it was that bad until I uploaded it. I will have to do something about that next time.
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on page one someone said that he was building his ego and not muscle..so true
Yeah someone... ;)
Anyway, I suppose that is why my arms are much larger than yours. 8)
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Yeah someone... ;)
Anyway, I suppose that is why my arms are much larger than yours. 8)
how big are your arms?
considering that you claim to be this big workout freak your arms vastly bigger than mines
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Yeah someone... ;)
Anyway, I suppose that is why my arms are much larger than yours. 8)
from the way you work them I am guessing your back and legs are also :)
oh yeah, and ego
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how big are your arms?
considering that you claim to be this big workout freak your arms vastly bigger than mines
I have already stated what my arms measure. I have posted videos showing them. Let's see yours.
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how big are your arms?
considering that you claim to be this big workout freak your arms vastly bigger than mines
all bullshit aside, i'd say by looking at them that they're 15 inches.
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I agree. I really didn't think it was that bad until I uploaded it. I will have to do something about that next time.
You want me to write you a program?
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I believe the bar weighs 25 lbs so this is 185 lbs total. This is the first time I have done EZ-bar curls in a while:
Great, go tell TIME.
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all bullshit aside, i'd say by looking at them that they're 15 inches.
what are you willing to be bet?
you already lost your house
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all bullshit aside, i'd say by looking at them that they're 15 inches.
Lol, you never answered my previous request in this same thread. What do you want for proof they are 18"? YOU name it.
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Lol, you never answered my previous request in this same thread. What do you want for proof they are 18"? YOU name it.
post away "big guy".
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18 is not bad for a natural.But always depends on your body fat if you weigh 260 arms should be 19-20 so it only really counts if you are in shape.IMO.
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18 is not bad for a natural.But always depends on your body fat if you weigh 260 arms should be 19-20 so it only really counts if you are in shape.IMO.
What would you know about shape young nun?
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18 is not bad for a natural.But always depends on your body fat if you weigh 260 arms should be 19-20 so it only really counts if you are in shape.IMO.
if you believe his arms are 18 then i've got a bridge in Brooklyn i'd like to sell you.
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Alexx I know you look like Shit.
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Alexx I know you look like Shit.
Then you know close to nothing youngone.
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Then you know close to nothing youngone.
are you suggesting that "Miss Karen" is a bitter, ugly, desperate skank who couldn't get laid in prison, Alexxx?
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are you suggesting that "Miss Karen" is a bitter, ugly, desperate skank who couldn't get laid in prison, Alexxx?
You just recited her whole life story in 3 words!!
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Why don't you ride alexx dick Sarcasm you waste of breath.STFU Idiot.
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Why don't you ride alexx dick Sarcasm you waste of breath.STFU Idiot.
do you blow your dad with that mouth?
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Why don't you Fucksticks get to Mayhem you fukin tools.I have never known such fukin fools who suck each others cocks.Grow up DICKHEAD.
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Why don't you Fucksticks get to Mayhem you fukin tools.I have never known such fukin fools who suck each others cocks.Grow up DICKHEAD.
i'm trying to picture what a day in the life of Miss Karen is like, i'm picturing a breakfast of Cheetos and Chocolate Milk, am i right?
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i'm trying to picture what a day in the life of Miss Karen is like, i'm picturing a breakfast of Cheetos and Chocolate Milk, am i right?
Sarcasm are you saying Miss Karen trys to repress her childhood "memories" with frequent binging of sugar and simple carbohydrates?
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I have already stated what my arms measure. I have posted videos showing them. Let's see yours.
Watch the animated GIF idiot. What is the first thing you see move? The back.....What moves the most in the "exercise"......The back........What is working the least........The Biceps.......Why does the back have more range of motion here than the Biceps if this is what you call a Bicep curl?
Just what exactly ARE you working on here? This is not going to help you build anything really.
Your spine and lumbar region is doing all the work.
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/new187/ChrisCurl.gif)
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1st sensible thing you have said TA you are right this time.Very Poor style.
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Watch the animated GIF idiot. What is the first thing you see move? The back.....What moves the most in the "exercise"......The back........What is working the least........The Biceps.......Why does the back have more range of motion here than the Biceps if this is what you call a Bicep curl?
Just what exactly ARE you working on here? This is not going to help you build anything really.
Your spine and lumbar region is doing all the work.
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/new187/ChrisCurl.gif)
yeah but don't you know that Chris's arms are 18 inches, Adonis? ::)
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cheat curls
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if you believe his arms are 18 then i've got a bridge in Brooklyn i'd like to sell you.
Just curious, why keep posting something with nothing to back it up? Are you that spineless? Tell me what you want me to do to prove it and I will do it.
If you don't then you are worthless and really need to shut your piehole and crawl back under the rock you call home.
Of course, you can always keep up with your b.s. and just be known as the guy that you are. Yeah, you know what, keep it up, please. 8)
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Watch the animated GIF idiot. What is the first thing you see move? The back.....What moves the most in the "exercise"......The back........What is working the least........The Biceps.......Why does the back have more range of motion here than the Biceps if this is what you call a Bicep curl?
Just what exactly ARE you working on here? This is not going to help you build anything really.
Your spine and lumbar region is doing all the work.
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/new187/ChrisCurl.gif)
Oh LOL, I OWN you now!
If you truly believe what you are saying then you DEFINITELY qualify as the most delusional individual on these boards. Hey, do me a favor and try to goad me on as sarcasm now! Please! Wait, better yet do it as yet another of your alter egos.
;D ;D ;D
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You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength? Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.
True, if you watch most the pros curl [and I am not refering to their vids where obviously they act different as they are on cam] they always use some body motion. Again, not refering to them on video, I am talking about training with them in person.
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True, if you watch most the pros curl [and I am not refering to their vids where obviously they act different as they are on cam] they always use some body motion. Again, not refering to them on video, I am talking about training with them in person.
got to agree.
I never seen a Pro (or lets say even a top amateur) do strict movements
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Chris has a good point, that using mild cheating allows you to expose the biceps to heavier weight at certain angles that you wouldn't "keeping your ego in check".
Not to mention the obvious mental benefits of doing such weight, leading to much better attitude in terms of belief of ability at lower weights where you are concentrating on form.
Truth is that both ways work. People tend to dislike this type of thing on the boards though so its best not to post the vid. Its functional cheating.
If Adonis wants to "take you on" perhaps you both should tape your arms :)
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Nice way to tear the muscle thats so easily tearable :)
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Chris has a good point, that using mild cheating allows you to expose the biceps to heavier weight at certain angles that you wouldn't "keeping your ego in check".
Not to mention the obvious mental benefits of doing such weight, leading to much better attitude in terms of belief of ability at lower weights where you are concentrating on form.
Truth is that both ways work. People tend to dislike this type of thing on the boards though so its best not to post the vid. Its functional cheating.
If Adonis wants to "take you on" perhaps you both should tape your arms :)
He has a few inches of fat on them. I wonder if he knows that?
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He has a few inches of fat on them. I wonder if he knows that?
Actually, my arms are quite lean. Leaner in a relative sense than my mid-section.
I am sure if I were ripped they would be about 1" smaller.
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Just curious, why keep posting something with nothing to back it up? Are you that spineless? Tell me what you want me to do to prove it and I will do it.
If you don't then you are worthless and really need to shut your piehole and crawl back under the rock you call home.
Of course, you can always keep up with your b.s. and just be known as the ass that you are. Yeah, you know what, keep it up, please. 8)
i told you to go ahead and post a picture of you measuring them you skinny f.aggot.
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cheat curls
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That fool is going to have a short and painfull carrear. Lower back injuries never go away.
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i told you to go ahead and post a picture of you measuring them you skinny f.aggot.
Ok, done.
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That fool is going to have a short and painfull carrear. Lower back injuries never go away.
Arnold's career seems to have weathered those horrible size-building cheats just fine. ::) After a good warmup cheats aren't a big deal at all on the back.
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Sarcasm always takes advantage of the fact that people look smaller in pictures than in real life. That's the only way he can feel good about himself. The same thing happened with mesomorph over on the pictures board. Mes posted a video of himself doing deadlifts, and Sarcasm started insisting that he had 15" arms. He's a total nutjob. I bet he has no friends in real life because he acts like an asshole to everyone. He should just kill himself right now.
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Sarcasm always takes advantage of the fact that people look smaller in pictures than in real life. That's the only way he can feel good about himself. The same thing happened with mesomorph over on the pictures board. Mes posted a video of himself doing deadlifts, and Sarcasm started insisting that he had 15" arms. He's a total nutjob. I bet he has no friends in real life because he acts like an asshole to everyone. He should just kill himself right now.
He is 14 years old. I am dead serious. And yes he is suicidal, I hope he doesn't do it, I just want him to get some regular hobbies like playing baseball and get the fuck off this site.
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He is 14 years old. I am dead serious. And yes he is suicidal, I hope he doesn't do it, I just want him to get some regular hobbies like playing baseball and get the f**k off this site.
mindspin certainly destroyed his mystique, knowing that he is a 14 y/o punk makes him even funnier
the sad part is that gaydonis actually took part in that whole mess...TA you are your own worse enemy
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There is a background profile on Chris Mason in the march '06 issure 0f PowerliftingUSA magazine. Also list his web site www.atlargenutrition.com .
That style of curl in the video is common practice for very large men with very large biceps. TA's approach/theory to bio-mechanics, with regard to stress, focus, muscle curve involvement, etc for the biceps is mistaken. In fact it may be a wonderful idea for TA to adopt a cheating style to his total arm workouts. If TA want's to enter a man's sport than he may first want to look like one, rather than a Calvin Kline boy model. Serious muscle development is sadily missing on his body, sorry to say. Being his own best friend (with Sarcasm?) can limit him to being more honest with himself. And less judgemental of others.
Had a free summer a while back so I and three of my Bud's traveled up the coast (starting from the Mexican boarder) to Ventura, CA. We check out and trained in just about all of the hard core gym's along the way. That and sufing a lot. Witnessed quite a few top BB'er and some Pro's train during that time. I did not see any one of them do a perfect, by the book, curl or any other BB'ing exercise for that matter. Those 20" gun's where mostly do half to three quarter rep cheating curls with DB's/BB's/Scot curls/Curling machines. Cheating is a art form. Heaving and reverse cleans are not he same as a result producing cheating curl. In doing chest, back, legs, etc, there was nothing near those massive and powerful men preforming a full ROM in perfect form. Form pretty much goes out the window when muscle mass is the goal with these guy's. Good Luck.
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That fool is going to have a short and painfull carrear. Lower back injuries never go away.
Arnold is a fool?
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Arnold is a fool?
did that guy in the clip achieve anything in bodybuilding? ;)
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those guys are all drugged up so have to workout that way or they are not maxing out the benefits the drugs can give them (so doing curls like that will max their arms, plus have the added benefit of overworking shoulders/back/hams/etc w/o overtraining).
I love this theory that drugs compensate for poor form, with no proof whatsoever. Gold.
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did that guy in the clip achieve anything in bodybuilding? ;)
no....
he eventually changed his name to True Adonis & started his career on bodybuilding computer forums where he places 2nd amongst other weekend keyboard enthusiasts.
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no....
he eventually changed his name to True Adonis & started his career on bodybuilding computer forums where he places 2nd amongst other weekend keyboard enthusiasts.
;D
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I agree w/ JPM, with a couple caveots (altho I might be speaking out of my arse):
--those guys are all drugged up so have to workout that way or they are not maxing out the benefits the drugs can give them (so doing curls like that will max their arms, plus have the added benefit of overworking shoulders/back/hams/etc w/o overtraining).
--seems that once you've figured out the movement, doing it fast and/or sloppy is ok because you know how it's supposed to "feel". So beginners (TA) should do strict form, if only to "figure out" how it's supposed to feel. Then once they have that down, go to full-on mode. Similar to how you learn to swing a baseball bat or golf club. You learn the motion first w/o power, then once you've got the motion down, you can add power.
Maybe we could split this discussion out into two categories. One for naturals. One for juicers. Then within those two primary categories: beginners and experienced. So you'd have:
--Naturals: beginners
--Naturals: advanced
--Juicers: beginners (these are idiots btw)
--Juicers: advanced
Cuz I think most of the points given are valid in one area or another. Just not as blanket statements as they are being marketed.
I think this is a well thought out statement.
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I think this is a well thought out statement.
I used to cheat a lot.
Then I wisened up.
I can Respect Mason`s deadlift...That is one thing you cannot cheat.
I can duplicate Mason`s lift so I am not impressed at all,nor worried about it. I have done 185 Barbell curls just fine. No idea why he posted it. That is one other thing I am really good at. Curls.
Do you not agree, that if he could do this exercise in a slow and controlled manner, THAT in fact, would be more impressive?
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I used to cheat a lot.
Then I wisened up.
I can Respect Mason`s deadlift...That is one thing you cannot cheat.
I can duplicate Mason`s lift so I am not impressed at all,nor worried about it. I have done 185 Barbell curls just fine. No idea why he posted it. That is one other thing I am really good at. Curls.
Do you not agree, that if he could do this exercise in a slow and controlled manner, THAT in fact, would be more impressive?
TA....your shoulder development & lack of biceps size is a clear indicator that you cheat curl quite often....
hope this helps
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TA....your shoulder development & lack of biceps size is a clear indicator that you cheat curl quite often....
hope this helps
Pyros Dimas can Curl over 230 lbs in perfect form besting any IFBB pro, Hope this helps.
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I used to cheat a lot.
Then I wisened up.
I can Respect Mason`s deadlift...That is one thing you cannot cheat.
I can duplicate Mason`s lift so I am not impressed at all,nor worried about it. I have done 185 Barbell curls just fine. No idea why he posted it. That is one other thing I am really good at. Curls.
Do you not agree, that if he could do this exercise in a slow and controlled manner, THAT in fact, would be more impressive?
Really? Why not post a video? Let's see what you can really do.
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Pyros Dimas can Curl over 230 lbs in perfect form besting any IFBB pro, Hope this helps.
& what does this have to do with you performing cheat curls in your routine?
you know you do it all the time & probably just as bad as Arnold did it in the clip I provided.
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Really? Why not post a video? Let's see what you can really do.
Next Time I do curls I will tape it and see what happens.
What form would you like me to use?
The looser the form, the more I can do.
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Pyros Dimas can Curl over 230 lbs in perfect form besting any IFBB pro, Hope this helps.
any links for this, would be damn impressive to see.
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ROFLMAO!
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ROFLMAO!
is that 230 pounds?