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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2006, 01:51:45 PM »
Its good to see that I am not the only one who thinks ND is a drooling, bumbling blind fool :P 8)





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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2006, 01:54:10 PM »
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You have to put Haney's reign into context , who was going to beat him?
Agreed. Nothing to do with absolute comparisons from different eras though. Another deflection.

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2006, 01:56:43 PM »
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he along with Yates dominated the sport in a way that Coleman never could .
see, ND this is why everyone thinks you are a retard.

Ronnie was winning Mr. O's legitimately long at an age long after yates and haney would have retired. You have to give him respect for that.

Ronnie won more contests than ANYONE in history, including 8 Mr. O's and the Arnold Classic.

Far more than dorian.
Far more than Haney.

Ronnie lost to gunter to sell tickets - period.

he did loose fairly to Jay but the man was 43! When did Dorian retire? 35?

Saying "like Coleman never could" is just plain ridiculous and stupid.



neither haney or yates ever looked like this.

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2006, 01:58:04 PM »
Agreed. Nothing to do with absolute comparisons from different eras though. Another deflection.


Compare Haney's front latspread to Colemans , Haney wipes the floor with him.

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2006, 02:10:06 PM »

Compare Haney's front latspread to Colemans , Haney wipes the floor with him.


don't be so sure. 1999 ronnie had an amazing lat spread, but there are very few shots of it.

2006 ronnie, well, that is a different story.
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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2006, 02:10:34 PM »
see, ND this is where us nutt-hugging Coleman fans think you're retarded

Ronnie was winning Mr. O's legitimately long at an age long after yates and haney would have retired. You have to give him respect for that.

Ronnie won more contests than ANYONE in history, including 8 Mr. O's and the Arnold Classic.

Far more than dorian.
Far more than Haney.

Ronnie lost to gunter to sell tickets - period.

he did loose fairly to Jay but the man was 43! When did Dorian retire? 35?

Saying "like Coleman never could" is just plain ridiculous and stupid.


neither haney or yates ever looked like this.



I fixed that for you !! and again you may find comfort in the masses I don't need the validation of a group of deluted people to have confience in my opinion , you do

What does Coleman's age have to do with anything? Haney and Yates established themselves at a young age , because they were that much better than their contemporaries , Ronnie was lost in the Yates-era its no one elses fault Ronnie wasn't good enough to beat Yates in the nine times they faced each other thats a poor excuse

Wow comfort in numbers again Ronnie won the most contests , he should have he also had the most attempts , his win percentage rate is just 40% he lost 60% of the time , Yates win percentage is 88% that means he lost just 12% of the time , so put Ronnie's wins into context

Kevin Levrone & Vince Taylor are close seconds to Ronnie in terms of career wins does that mean both of them are better than Arnold Schwarzenegger because he only won 8 pro contest? Ronnie gets credit for having 8 Mr Olympia titles thats history period , even though half of them were close calls , contests that he could have easily lost

Ronnie lost to Gunther because Ronnie sucked and Guther was on , Gunther made Coleman look small and soft , believe what you want but Ronnie Coleman was beat outright , just like he was in 2006

And saying like Coleman never did is 100% accurate , Haney established his self as a clear cut winner right away as did Yates but where was Coleman , lost in a deep field , Ronnie throughout his career fought his way to the top and should be commended for his presistance , but even at his best he was very beatable , he had a lot of close calls and lost the 2002 SOS and lost the challenge round and lost the 2006 Mr Olympia and 3 more on the Euro tour , Haney & Yates dominated like Coleman never could this is a fact my friend .

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2006, 02:11:08 PM »

don't be so sure. 1999 ronnie had an amazing lat spread, but there are very few shots of it.

2006 ronnie, well, that is a different story.


It looks good for Ronnie but Haney owns him in that shot .

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2006, 02:12:33 PM »
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I don't need the validation of a group of deluted people to have confience in my opinion ,

No, you would never GET validation because your opinions are bizzare
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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2006, 02:13:23 PM »
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It looks good for Ronnie but Haney owns him in that shot .
Where do you get that from? Haney loves that shot because it evens the playing field with someone better, by hiding his deficiencies. ::)

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2006, 02:19:37 PM »

don't count Ronnie out so fast. He looked a lot different in 98/99 than he does now. People often forget that 8)
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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2006, 02:20:49 PM »
No, you would never GET validation because your opinions are bizzare

LMFAO again walking right into your own trap , is your opinion that Dorian should have lost in 1993 to Flex NOT bizzare? how about Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder ever? or Dorian is overrated because he was so dominating , or this gem Ronnie dominated Jay from the back in 2001 despite losing the entire prejudging , shall I continue? lol self-ownage for the second time today lol like Mc Dondals I'm lovin it lol

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2006, 02:21:36 PM »

don't count Ronnie out so fast. He looked a lot different in 98/99 than he does now. People often forget that 8)


Again looks good very good , still Haney has him and so does Yates !

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2006, 02:22:05 PM »
Nice comparison pic. Haney looks real good, Coleman looks galactically good.
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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2006, 02:38:47 PM »
Again looks good very good , still Haney has him and so does Yates !


in no way whatsoever does haney have ronnie is this pic.... im a huge haney fan and he was great durring his era, but ronnie competed against stiffer competition... ronnie's the greatest hands down... and in that front lad spread his Owns lee

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« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2006, 02:45:16 PM »

in no way whatsoever does haney have ronnie is this pic.... im a huge haney fan and he was great durring his era, but ronnie competed against stiffer competition... ronnie's the greatest hands down... and in that front lad spread his Owns lee

LMFAO Stiffer competition? who Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson? see the 1988 Mr Olympia for a deep quality field of guys .

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2006, 02:58:09 PM »
haney had more than just muscle. he had a "presence" that none of the other competitors had, during that era. seriously, you had to be around him to know this, and that is what separated him from guys that many feel were better.
sure, his arms weren't the biggest, but they weren't that bad.
haney possessed a type of "elegance," if you will, that none of the other guys could ever have. and still, no one does. that's what made him a multi mr. o

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2006, 03:03:09 PM »
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Again looks good very good , still Haney has him and so does Yates !
With no substantiation for this whatsoever. More of the same wackiness. hahaahahahah


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haney had more than just muscle. he had a "presence" that none of the other competitors had, during that era.
That's very easy to say after the fact. "Presence" is worth something but only if the rest of the package is there to begin with. "Presence" is also complemented greatly by something else called "politics".  ;D

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2006, 03:30:05 PM »
With no substantiation for this whatsoever. More of the same wackiness. hahaahahahah

That's very easy to say after the fact. "Presence" is worth something but only if the rest of the package is there to begin with. "Presence" is also complemented greatly by something else called "politics".  ;D

You keep crying politics every thread where someone you don't like wins its not fair & square its politics and yet your only evidence for the ' politics ' is disgruntled former IFBB pros thats not evidence , please if you're going to make the claim back it up with evidence not speculation , oh wait this is pumpster thats all you can do is speculate because you have no evidence.

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2006, 04:19:51 PM »
LMFAO Stiffer competition? who Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson? see the 1988 Mr Olympia for a deep quality field of guys .

hahaha, yeah how bout nassar, kevin, Flex, shawn, dillet, cormier, 1988!!!!... hahahahahahaha half the guys in the top ten weighed under 220lbs.... lee lebrada weighed like 170.... come on dude...

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #69 on: October 21, 2006, 04:22:28 PM »
that's from the 90 olympia where they "tested" the guys.  If Haney ever lost a show it was that one, Labrada, Ray and Christian all beat him on that day.  I think he lost the 89 O to Labrada as well, there was a shot in the Flex coverage of that show with Labrada straight on facing the camera in the "relaxed" pose that was incredible, great, great abs...one of the best shots I've ever seen.

That being said I don't know if the clip in this thread is really a good representation of what Haney was.  Look for clips of him from the 84-88 olympias and the 91 show.  That was prime Haney, especially 84 and 85.  He was gigantic for the time and hard as a rock with that itsy bitsy waist.

he was given gifts...don't know if he got more than anyone else but he was given gifts and yes his legs sucked, his arms were not that good but his delts-when he was at his best were very good.

Agree I was at that show and thought big Mike Christian should have won.

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2006, 04:38:27 PM »
hahaha, yeah how bout nassar, kevin, Flex, shawn, dillet, cormier, 1988!!!!... hahahahahahaha half the guys in the top ten weighed under 220lbs.... lee lebrada weighed like 170.... come on dude...

true. Ronnie faced far far stiffer competition than haney:



pay no attention to ND. Most of the board and in fact the civilized world does not agree with his assessements about Ronnie Coleman
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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2006, 04:59:18 PM »
hahaha, yeah how bout nassar, kevin, Flex, shawn, dillet, cormier, 1988!!!!... hahahahahahaha half the guys in the top ten weighed under 220lbs.... lee lebrada weighed like 170.... come on dude...

bodyweight doesn't equate to quality , who cares if Ronnie faced bigger guys its all about the quality of the feild , look at 1988 who was out of shape? and Ronnie faced Kevin , Flex , Dillet , Ray past their primes , all looked much better when Dorian faced them and beat them , Ronnie ironically started to beat them after their best showings .

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2006, 05:05:03 PM »
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bodyweight doesn't equate to quality



irony?

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ND shows his true bias with that statemment.
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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #73 on: October 21, 2006, 05:07:50 PM »


irony?

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ND shows his true bias with that statemment.

To say Dorian has no quality is to undermine the judges ability and you're no judge .

what is that picture suppose to imply? you think Shawn Ray should be Mr Olympia based on a shot thats not even a mandatory pose? lol there not even the same quality and you're basing an entire show on these pictures , very amauter but then again we're dealing with Hulkster its to be expected.

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Re: LEE HANEY was given the most gifts in bodybuilding history..
« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2006, 05:11:51 PM »
Yates upper bod in the shot's so smooth you could skate on him.

Superb tier-B on par with Haney.