new MILOS SARCEV training pics...

[rccs]

Milos' arms arent mutations ala Ronnie, nor did they have the freaky fullness of the Flexes and Levrones of this world(although he did attempt their systems once  ), but I wanna see one of his detractors here match his arm size, shape and development in contest condition. They were probably 19-20" in contest shape.
This guy was the Zane of his day, the best physique since Paris. And he could pose.

Now we got guys bashing his wife too, talk about jealousy. And of course, the same guys are lifetime natural, and claim everyone is all drugs. Pathetic.

Yes, unfortunatelly the "loser soreness" sometimes can transform it self into frustration. I admire Milos and his career, not all bbers from his generation can say that they are fit and strong and even able to return to high lever bbing, most of them wouldn't even last 15 min in Milos's training. For some members here, they only detract and are not positive, no construction, only destruction, first symptom of frustration...

[Van_Bilderass]

The Milosification of bodybuilding has been one of it's downfalls over the last decade.  There is a reason why this guy is around every guy who's as wide in the waist as he is tall.  This guy's "advice" regarding drugs has provided the pro ranks with a PLETHORA of guys with 36+ inch waists (like Cutler). 

I hang around here a lot and I have no idea who you are talking about. Spill it. Who is the natural guy? What's the problem with him being natural?

Anyone else know wtf this dude is talking about?

Yes Milos was hyping insulin but how come Milos doesn't have the wide and bloated waist himself?

[UK Gold]

'The Ego Crusher' is trying to make a name for himself by belittling Milos. 'Kegdrainer' did the same thing with Chick. Pathetic.

[Alex Velickovic]

Milos is a BB legend.

[slaveboy1980]

"Drop set"...

Super slow on the way down (5 seconds or more)...pause on the bottom (2 seconds) before pushing it up in super-slow fashion (no "power" and instead only strong muscle contraction) - without locking the knees at the top (thus - maintaining continuous tension)...
After every 3 (4 or 5 reps - depends on WHEN in the workout we do these drop sets) we take 2 plates off from one side only...

More often than not - when we are down to "nothing" (no plates at all) - we start adding them back up in the same fashion (every so many reps we put the weights back - ASCENDING mode (rather than descending)...

On the good day we might go down (descending) - up (ascending) and down (descending) again...OR combine this exercise with other (superset) or others (giant sets)...

I love when "keyboard heroes" notice the poundages that I (or my athletes) use and call it - "brutal" or "monster" strength...

There is always an offer for those "tough" guys to come and join us in training to see how "brutal they are"...

They have no clue WHAT comes BEFORE any particular lift - so when you see photo of me (or someone else) doing 135lbs shoulder press or whatever amount "preacher curl" - that doesn't mean we are doing ONLY that exercise...

If you follow my training programs (usually there is exact workout posted on board) - you will notice that I combine a lot of different exercises one after another...

Shoulder presses (for example) were - explosive standing shoulder presses AFTER super slow (5 seconds minimum) HEAVY Smith Machine military presses...with 2 seconds pause on the bottom (when bar touches the chest)...

EZ-Bar Preacher curl was one of 5 exercises in giant-set sequence (along with low pulley cable preacher curl, reverse preacher curl, selectorized machine preacher curl + Hammer Strength Preacher curl...all done with various tempo, different load, grip and a technique...)

if the above is what you do on a reg basis: (can be used to "shock" the body for a couple of weeks)

the super slow things you do are totally unnecessary, and just increase the risk of injury specially if you do it as a part of multiple drop sets. it will totally crush cns (if used too frequently) thus preventing you from using a higher number of "normal" straight sets taken to near failure. It looks more like manual hard labour than working the muscle. That being said, milos, im sure you could destroy most of the getbiggers during such a session, including me...but im not sure its necessary or even best practice to do that kind of training regularly.

and in general regarding PTs:
but i understand..cuz as a personal trainer you have to bring something unique to the table, hence all the workout balls and pseudo scientific routines and all the other useless bs.

[BEAST 8692]

if the above is what you do on a reg basis: (can be used to "shock" the body for a couple of weeks)

the super slow things you do are totally unnecessary, and just increase the risk of injury specially if you do it as a part of multiple drop sets. it will totally crush cns (if used too frequently) thus preventing you from using a higher number of "normal" straight sets taken to near failure. It looks more like manual hard labour than working the muscle. That being said, milos, im sure you could destroy most of the getbiggers during such a session, including me...but im not sure its necessary or even best practice to do that kind of training regularly.

and in general regarding PTs:
but i understand..cuz as a personal trainer you have to bring something unique to the table, hence all the workout balls and pseudo scientific routines and all the other useless bs.

i personally don't agree with milos' training ideas, mainly because my main interests are strength and power for performance in my field ie super slow and endless superset type exercise become too much about endurance for me and i would rather perform endurance work separately and more along the lines of repetitive explosive movements and interval training (sprint - cardio).

having said that, i would think that super slow with less weight would reduce the risk of potentiating injury because you are using less weight and more control of the movement itself.

conversely, explosive ballistic movement of heavy weight is much more likely to cause injury because you are using inertia and speed to move the weight through the weak range of the motion thereby increasing the likelihood of the weight leaving the desired plane of motion and/or overstressing the muscle, tendons and connective tissue.

the cns is actually taxed less because there is less recruitment due to lighter weights used.

[njflex]

On a bbing forum for positive talk and feedback,esp with a pro the caliber of milos and u rip his credibility and reputation.he runs a buissness,train's bber's ,keeps himself in great shape which in itself must be tough with his schedule and he get's some of these outrageous accusation's and stupid post's.positive info would be more appreciated from him .at least u don't have to buy a 6.00 mag for the same old pic's and info,he give's u a little here and more on his own website.

[Figo]

On a bbing forum for positive talk and feedback,esp with a pro the caliber of milos and u rip his credibility and reputation.he runs a buissness,train's bber's ,keeps himself in great shape which in itself must be tough with his schedule and he get's some of these outrageous accusation's and stupid post's.positive info would be more appreciated from him .at least u don't have to buy a 6.00 mag for the same old pic's and info,he give's u a little here and more on his own website.

There you go

[Steel-Lucifuge]

EgoCrusher and Squirtfather are pissed because they both stalked Milos for gay sex and Milos rejected that.
From the basement of their parents' house, they suck each others cock like there is no tommorow.
What a sweet pair of love birds they are!
Good job tough guys, now go back to your basement (your parents' basement)and suck each others cock  and pretend to be tough guys on internet from your junk computers.

[Milos_Sarcev]

if the above is what you do on a reg basis: (can be used to "shock" the body for a couple of weeks)

the super slow things you do are totally unnecessary, and just increase the risk of injury specially if you do it as a part of multiple drop sets. it will totally crush cns (if used too frequently) thus preventing you from using a higher number of "normal" straight sets taken to near failure. It looks more like manual hard labour than working the muscle. That being said, milos, im sure you could destroy most of the getbiggers during such a session, including me...but im not sure its necessary or even best practice to do that kind of training regularly.

and in general regarding PTs:
but i understand..cuz as a personal trainer you have to bring something unique to the table, hence all the workout balls and pseudo scientific routines and all the other useless bs.

 

[slaveboy1980]

it was meant as a serious reply milos and i would say that a higher number of straight sets would give better results than over use of giant sets and drop sets. sure doing a giant set of 5 biceps exercises will cause tremendous burn and lactic acid build and will be painful but the weights will drop so drastically that it would be better just to do straight sets of barbell curl. sure, barbell curls dont sound as "cool" as triple drop giant set of 5 biceps excercsis, but loading will be far superior combined with far less cns fatigue. overuse of intensity techniques such as you use (if used on regular basis) will act a bottlneck for muscle stimulation because cns fatigue will act as a limiting factor.

[MisterMagoo]

"slaveboy", you can criticize a physique and no one is going to tell you you can't (after all, you don't have to be mr olympia to be a judge). but if you're going to tell a pro what's wrong with his training and what he can do to fix it, you'd better have proof that your ideas work better.

so you use the method you describe, milos uses his. post up a picture of your results and we'll all decide who to listen to. i don't hold any brief for milos, but when people think they know more about training than someone with a good track record it irks me.

[The Squadfather]

it was meant as a serious reply milos and i would say that a higher number of straight sets would give better results than over use of giant sets and drop sets. sure doing a giant set of 5 biceps exercises will cause tremendous burn and lactic acid build and will be painful but the weights will drop so drastically that it would be better just to do straight sets of barbell curl. sure, barbell curls dont sound as "cool" as triple drop giant set of 5 biceps excercsis, but loading will be far superior combined with far less cns fatigue. overuse of intensity techniques such as you use (if used on regular basis) will act a bottlneck for muscle stimulation because cns fatigue will act as a limiting factor.

i totally agree with this, if Milos's techniques work so well why are his arms so undersized compared to the other guys?

[MisterMagoo]

i totally agree with this, if Milos's techniques work so well why are his arms so undersized compared to the other guys?

that's not true. milos's arms were totally hug-wait. with or without oil?

[slaveboy1980]

"slaveboy", you can criticize a physique and no one is going to tell you you can't (after all, you don't have to be mr olympia to be a judge). but if you're going to tell a pro what's wrong with his training and what he can do to fix it, you'd better have proof that your ideas work better.

so you use the method you describe, milos uses his. post up a picture of your results and we'll all decide who to listen to. i don't hold any brief for milos, but when people think they know more about training than someone with a good track record it irks me.

dont give a shit if it irks you, it was just my opinions and thats what this board is about, exchanging ideas and discussing different training methods etc. so i would suggest you bring something to the table instead of trying stop the spread of the free word.

[slaveboy1980]

i totally agree with this, if Milos's techniques work so well why are his arms so undersized compared to the other guys?

yeah but the thing is i think it applies for all muscle groups...and no im not saying milos body sucks as he has a great build. i know milos uses these techniques on legs also..for example on hacksquats...but i have to honestly say, while it may seem innovative and cool to use these intensity techniques on paper:..straight sets work often better.

i can also come up with various tortouros (spelling??)training routines..but sometimes smarter is better. not necessarily the most painful. im not suggesting training like a pussy..i say train hard but dont take the use of intensity techniques to far.

[MisterMagoo]

dont give a shit if it irks you, it was just my opinions and thats what this board is about, exchanging ideas and discussing different training methods etc. so i would suggest you bring something to the table instead of trying stop the spread of the free word.

who's trying to stop you? rather, i'm asking you to defend your opinion. the only reason to listen to someone is if they can provide evidence that it works.

guy A and guy B are arguing about training methods. one is a pro bodybuilder, the other is a guy on the internet who refuses to show a picture of himself. it would be like if you were debating with a guitarist about some kind of fingering technique, only you're talking with the guitarist from dragonforce and you won't provide a single recording of your playing.

[slaveboy1980]

who's trying to stop you? rather, i'm asking you to defend your opinion. the only reason to listen to someone is if they can provide evidence that it works.

guy A and guy B are arguing about training methods. one is a pro bodybuilder, the other is a guy on the internet who refuses to show a picture of himself. it would be like if you were debating with a guitarist about some kind of fingering technique, only you're talking with the guitarist from dragonforce and you won't provide a single recording of your playing.

refuses to show pics of himself..errr..i havent refused showing pics of myself. and i was talking to milos not you, i think milos can speak for himself.

[BigAnt]

Milos entered the most shows in a year than any other Pro...AND ALWAYS DISPLAYED FREAKY HARDENSS, CONDITION AND SIZE.  Shows from March through November.  And it is not all drugs, today the man still looks contest ready.  He trains smart and is still putting size on!  He is wealth of knowledge!

[ether]

How can your arms grow if you have said previously that once you had all of the synthol drained there is nothing left but scar tissue?

[Jr. Yates]

Milos entered the most shows in a year than any other Pro...AND ALWAYS DISPLAYED FREAKY HARDENSS, CONDITION AND SIZE.  Shows from March through November.  And it is not all drugs, today the man still looks contest ready.  He trains smart and is still putting size on!  He is wealth of knowledge!

i agree 100%.

[njflex]

MILOS techiques have given him good enough arms and improving over time,his leg's are another story blessed to max their shape,size,conditioning,his training method;s took them beyond his ability to to get his arms to equal freakiness,neverthless still a great overall package.

[MisterMagoo]

refuses to show pics of himself..errr..i havent refused showing pics of myself. and i was talking to milos not you, i think milos can speak for himself.

have you shown pictures of yourself? i mean, it's one thing to critique a physique, it's another to say you know better than he does how to train. if you know more about training than he does, obviously you have more to show for it than he does. if that's the case, but your money where your mouth is.

it's funny how this rarely happens on the PL boards. nobodies trying to tell top WPO lifters how to bring their bench up just doesn't happen, and if it is it's rarely listened to.

[chris2489]

Milos, out of all the years you have been training how many have been with the super intensity style you use today? Also what did you weigh at your heaviest?

-Chris

[Palpatine Q]

have you shown pictures of yourself? i mean, it's one thing to critique a physique, it's another to say you know better than he does how to train. if you know more about training than he does, obviously you have more to show for it than he does. if that's the case, but your money where your mouth is.

it's funny how this rarely happens on the PL boards. nobodies trying to tell top WPO lifters how to bring their bench up just doesn't happen, and if it is it's rarely listened to.

Yeah I'm sure this nutlicking asspopper blows Milos away.

This same thing happens to us all on a smaller scale.

I can't count the amount of times some little turd with a training journal under his arm tries to tell me how to lift.

Bodybuilding = Genetics.    find something heavy and lift it, your body will do whatever it's gonna do.