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Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« on: January 06, 2007, 05:05:50 PM »
ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.
Two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, according to several Israeli military sources.

The attack would be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to one-fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb.

Under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.

“As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.

The plans, disclosed to The Sunday Times last week, have been prompted in part by the Israeli intelligence service Mossad’s assessment that Iran is on the verge of producing enough enriched uranium to make nuclear weapons within two years.

Israeli military commanders believe conventional strikes may no longer be enough to annihilate increasingly well-defended enrichment facilities. Several have been built beneath at least 70ft of concrete and rock. However, the nuclear-tipped bunker-busters would be used only if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene, senior sources said.

Israeli and American officials have met several times to consider military action. Military analysts said the disclosure of the plans could be intended to put pressure on Tehran to halt enrichment, cajole America into action or soften up world opinion in advance of an Israeli attack.

Some analysts warned that Iranian retaliation for such a strike could range from disruption of oil supplies to the West to terrorist attacks against Jewish targets around the world.

Israel has identified three prime targets south of Tehran which are believed to be involved in Iran’s nuclear programme:

Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges are being installed for uranium enrichment

A uranium conversion facility near Isfahan where, according to a statement by an Iranian vice-president last week, 250 tons of gas for the enrichment process have been stored in tunnels

A heavy water reactor at Arak, which may in future produce enough plutonium for a bomb Israeli officials believe that destroying all three sites would delay Iran’s nuclear programme indefinitely and prevent them from having to live in fear of a “second Holocaust”.
The Israeli government has warned repeatedly that it will never allow nuclear weapons to be made in Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has declared that “Israel must be wiped off the map”.

Robert Gates, the new US defence secretary, has described military action against Iran as a “last resort”, leading Israeli officials to conclude that it will be left to them to strike.

Robert Gates, the new US defence secretary, has described military action against Iran as a “last resort”, leading Israeli officials to conclude that it will be left to them to strike.
Israeli pilots have flown to Gibraltar in recent weeks to train for the 2,000-mile round trip to the Iranian targets. Three possible routes have been mapped out, including one over Turkey.

Air force squadrons based at Hatzerim in the Negev desert and Tel Nof, south of Tel Aviv, have trained to use Israel’s tactical nuclear weapons on the mission. The preparations have been overseen by Major General Eliezer Shkedi, commander of the Israeli air force.

Sources close to the Pentagon said the United States was highly unlikely to give approval for tactical nuclear weapons to be used. One source said Israel would have to seek approval “after the event”, as it did when it crippled Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak with airstrikes in 1981.

Scientists have calculated that although contamination from the bunker-busters could be limited, tons of radioactive uranium compounds would be released.

The Israelis believe that Iran’s retaliation would be constrained by fear of a second strike if it were to launch its Shehab-3 ballistic missiles at Israel.

However, American experts warned of repercussions, including widespread protests that could destabilise parts of the Islamic world friendly to the West.

Colonel Sam Gardiner, a Pentagon adviser, said Iran could try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the route for 20% of the world’s oil.

Some sources in Washington said they doubted if Israel would have the nerve to attack Iran. However, Dr Ephraim Sneh, the deputy Israeli defence minister, said last month: “The time is approaching when Israel and the international community will have to decide whether to take military action against Iran.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535310_1,00.html

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 05:08:38 PM »
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A heavy water reactor at Arak, which may in future produce enough plutonium for a bomb Israeli officials believe that destroying all three sites would delay Iran’s nuclear programme indefinitely and prevent them from having to live in fear of a “second Holocaust”.

Oh brother! Seems like these assholes will milk the holocaust to the last drop and then some.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 08:32:23 PM »
This is retarded, Iran isn't going to nuke israel, the land and sites are important to muslims too.  However, there is nothing in Iran that Israel gives a shit about...

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2007, 11:47:10 PM »
Doesn't ISR still officially deny they have nukes? LMAO...

fuccit.  Let THEM do it.  We've lost 3000 American lives already and it seems many of thhe countries that benefit from our middle east rough lovemaking (like ISR) haven't been chipping in on the drinks.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2007, 12:53:48 AM »
Oh brother! Seems like these assholes will milk the holocaust to the last drop and then some.

Isreal nuking iran is due to the holocaust?

Defend this statement, I dare you.

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2007, 01:34:12 AM »
Isreal nuking iran is due to the holocaust?

Defend this statement, I dare you.
Oh Brother... Read the article, read his quote ::)  They said they feared a second holocaust, he was commenting on that ;)

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2007, 01:40:16 AM »
Explain how they're going to "milk" the holocaust.

If similar said event would have happened to any other ethnic group the reaction would be the same. 

The only difference is that Isreal actually has the capability to defend itself and stop something like that from happening again.

Thank god.

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 01:44:02 AM »
Explain how they're going to "milk" the holocaust.

If similar said event would have happened to any other ethnic group the reaction would be the same. 

The only difference is that Isreal actually has the capability to defend itself and stop something like that from happening again.

Thank god.


Do you think iran has the 1) will, 2) ability, and 3) lack of interference from the world, to conduct a second holocaust?


If any of these 3 items is missing, then ISR is using that card to elicit support for their pre-emptive strike of a non-aggressive neighbor just trying to get the same weapons ISR already owns. 

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 01:48:18 AM »

Do you think iran has the 1) will, 2) ability, and 3) lack of interference from the world, to conduct a second holocaust?

Will, yes.  Ability, not yet.  Lack of interference, considering we're 4 years into a war to stop a similar country form creating havoc and already nobody wants to keep going.... who knows.  I doubt any country but us and GB would try to stop them.  Besides Isreal of course.

If any of these 3 items is missing, then ISR is using that card to elicit support for their pre-emptive strike of a non-aggressive neighbor just trying to get the same weapons ISR already owns. 

Non agressive,.... ah hahahahaha.  right.  Iranian leaders have called for the destruction of israel and "driving the jews into the sea".  Not to mention the "war" they've been declaring on the west for 20 years.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2007, 01:48:57 AM »
Explain how they're going to "milk" the holocaust.

If similar said event would have happened to any other ethnic group the reaction would be the same. 

The only difference is that Isreal actually has the capability to defend itself and stop something like that from happening again.

Thank god.
That's easy, bringing fear of a second holocaust has the appearance of milking the first for sympathy to the cause that the second was mentioned in conjuntion with.  It may not be so, it just looks that way to some when it's used this way so often.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2007, 01:49:29 AM »
Iranian leaders have "called for" x, y, z for 20 years.   but they haven't done shit.  why is this?

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2007, 01:52:21 AM »
"we're 4 years into a war to stop a similar country form creating havoc and already nobody wants to keep going.... who knows.  I doubt any country but us and GB would try to stop them."

We had 34 countries in our 1991 iraq coalition.  Why?  Cause iraq was invading a soverign nation.  We had two polish slingshots and some canadian cannon fodder in 2003.  Why?  Cause Iraq did nothing but violate a paper law with zero victims.

If Iran invaded ISR, you would have 30 nations happy to help, and happy to cash in on iranian oil as ordered reparations ;)





Most of the world doesn't believe we are in Iraq "to stop a similar country form creating havoc".

Why is this?

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2007, 01:56:43 AM »
Iranian leaders have "called for" x, y, z for 20 years.   but they haven't done shit.  why is this?


Lack of ability.. but we all know that they're trying to get that ability.


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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2007, 02:01:52 AM »
Lack of ability.. but we all know that they're trying to get that ability.

hitler did it without nukes.  you're telling me the iranian air force and their monster troops, plus their nice big budget, sympathy from all directions, unlimited suicide bombers, and hez ready to flank them.... wouldn't fuck up israel if they wanted to?

They have the capability already.  All a nuke would do is provide justification for nuke relatiation.

Truth is, the only time iran would detonate a nuke is IN tehran, as allied forces walked into town to start hanging people. :(   And that is the only deterrent from making that baghdad II.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2007, 02:02:48 AM »
"we're 4 years into a war to stop a similar country form creating havoc and already nobody wants to keep going.... who knows.  I doubt any country but us and GB would try to stop them."

We had 34 countries in our 1991 iraq coalition.  Why?  Cause iraq was invading a soverign nation.  We had two polish slingshots and some canadian cannon fodder in 2003.  Why?  Cause Iraq did nothing but violate a paper law with zero victims.

If Iran invaded ISR, you would have 30 nations happy to help, and happy to cash in on iranian oil as ordered reparations ;)

Most of the world doesn't believe we are in Iraq "to stop a similar country form creating havoc".

Why is this?

Most of the world is headed towards either a newer form of socialism or radical islam.  Isreal should never have to depend on an increasingly hostile world to say if it is "okay" to defend itself or attack a country that, if able, would attempt to destroy it.  now I'm not saying ISR should attack Iran tomorrow but if Iran continues down the road they're on we might see that happen.

We are in Iraq for our interests and the interests of stability in the region.  If other EU countries don't want to play for the same reason France doesn't.. so be it.  They don't make decisions based on the best interest of our country so why should we be beholden to them?  Fuck em... do what we need to.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2007, 02:05:36 AM »
hitler did it without nukes.  you're telling me the iranian air force and their monster troops, plus their nice big budget, sympathy from all directions, unlimited suicide bombers, and hez ready to flank them.... wouldn't f**k up israel if they wanted to?

Isreal is about the 4th most powerful army in the world, so no.

They have the capability already.  All a nuke would do is provide justification for nuke relatiation.

But then come multiple nukes at ISR, then what.  Iran would kill they're defense mechanisms with multiple nukes.  We had the same scenarios during the cold war.

Truth is, the only time iran would detonate a nuke is IN tehran, as allied forces walked into town to start hanging people. :(   And that is the only deterrent from making that baghdad II.

Might be true (about iran at least).  They're savages.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2007, 02:09:18 AM »
my point is that if iran invaded ISR, even nations like saudi arabia would send jets and political pressure.  they're in a sweet trading spot now - they would lose all that, and end up sanctioned like iraq was for 10 years, which starved millions and killed economic backbone. 

The 1991 Coalition, who sided with US over Iraq -

The Allied coalition consisted of 34 countries, including Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Honduras, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, The Netherlands, guy, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria, Turkey, The United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2007, 02:14:27 AM »
my point is that if iran invaded ISR, even nations like saudi arabia would send jets and political pressure.  they're in a sweet trading spot now - they would lose all that, and end up sanctioned like iraq was for 10 years, which starved millions and killed economic backbone. 

Might be true might not.  Not like it disuaded Saddam from knocking his shit off, did it?

The 1991 Coalition, who sided with US over Iraq -

The Allied coalition consisted of 34 countries, including Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Honduras, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, The Netherlands, guy, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria, Turkey, The United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Let's break that down by troop deployment, length of involvement and equipment and logistic support and see what kind of figures you see.  I already know it... but how many of those countries are gonna really go to bat for Israel, the most hated nation in the region?


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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2007, 03:08:08 AM »
Israel was the biggest mistake ever made.... That's not being anti-semitic either. This little episode is going to be teh death of us all ::)

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2007, 03:10:39 AM »
Israel was the biggest mistake ever made.... That's not being anti-semitic either. This little episode is going to be teh death of us all ::)

well, it's obvous you've done zero research on the subject.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2007, 03:11:30 AM »
Brix, I get that you're into celebrating your heritage and that's cool.  I'm proud of my german heritage, I don't go waiving a german flag around ::) but whatever...  Specifically, why are you zionist?

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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2007, 03:13:51 AM »
well, it's obvous you've done zero research on the subject.
ahahhahaahhaa.... bring it and lets see, I've spend more hours with this crap than 99percent of the people...  I'm a goddamned zionist guru bubba ;)

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2007, 03:18:20 AM »
Brix, I get that you're into celebrating your heritage and that's cool.  I'm proud of my german heritage, I don't go waiving a german flag around ::) but whatever...  Specifically, why are you zionist?

Because Israel has a right to exist and it has nothing to do with the bible.

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2007, 03:20:11 AM »
ahahhahaahhaa.... bring it and lets see, I've spend more hours with this crap than 99percent of the people...  I'm a goddamned zionist guru bubba ;)

What exactly do you take issue with?

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Re: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2007, 03:31:10 AM »
Brix, I get that you're into celebrating your heritage and that's cool.  I'm proud of my german heritage, I don't go waiving a german flag around ::) but whatever...  Specifically, why are you zionist?


I'm German too.  ;D


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