Author Topic: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!  (Read 20201 times)

Hugo Chavez

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 31865
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2007, 09:54:09 AM »
Poll: Third of Americans suspect 9/11 inside job

Poll: Third of Americans suspect 9/11 inside job
Asset H10263 Posted By whitey
More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they “personally are more angry” at the government than they used to be.

Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is “very likely” or “somewhat likely” that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them “because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East.”

“We know that there are a lot of people now asking questions,” said Janice Matthews, executive director of 911Truth.org, one of the most sophisticated Internet sites raising doubts about official explanations of the attacks. “We didn’t have the Internet after Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin or the Kennedy assassination. But we live in different times now
http://www.gnn.tv/threads/18213/Poll_Third_of_Americans_suspect_9_11_inside_job?page=3

Hugo Chavez

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 31865
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2007, 10:01:11 AM »
Silence is golden ;D

OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #102 on: January 25, 2007, 10:40:25 AM »
Did I miss getting to you on something, Just let me know, I'll actually answer when it's pointed out.

I don't think I was the one who got into any polls with you... I know about this poll done in NY by Zogby and it has some shocking numbers to say the least: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2004/310804zogbypoll.htm


No, you didn't...........  i was echoing your "waiting" for Mr. I to respond.   (you are always fast at answering my question)

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2007, 10:58:04 AM »
Riiiiight.  Obviously bogus numbers. 


http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

By THOMAS HARGROVE
Scripps Howard News Service

More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.

Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.


Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 66378
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #104 on: January 25, 2007, 11:06:38 AM »

http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

By THOMAS HARGROVE
Scripps Howard News Service

More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.

Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.


Oh please.  Who are these "1,010 adults"?   ::)  The 911 nuts are a small but vocal minority.  Most rational people don't believe this crap. 

OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #105 on: January 25, 2007, 11:08:58 AM »

http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

By THOMAS HARGROVE
Scripps Howard News Service

More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.

Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.



Interesting,  but the BOLD, makes this poll inconsequential to your asserion that 36% of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job.  It's not difinative in that sense.


Also,  other polls should show similar results.

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #106 on: January 25, 2007, 11:10:41 AM »
scripps in a reputable agency, my friend.  And 1000 adults CAN show the beliefs of 300 million within a given margin for error.

Perhaps if you spent more time in a stats class, and less time defending an obvious lie by your security blanket of a politcal party, you would learn something.

BTW - many "rational" people have called 911 an inside job.  Ppl from both parties, people from scientists to engineers to college professors to former CIA agents.  But, you go suck your thumb and cuddle your republican party blanket, Linus.

OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #107 on: January 25, 2007, 11:25:40 AM »
There are problems with this poll:


36% think A or B occurred.

What percentage think "A" occurred ?

What percentage think "B" occurred?

What percentage think A and B occurred?


That's why this poll isn't good.

militarymuscle69

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2655
  • You can't be a citizen unless you serve
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #108 on: January 25, 2007, 11:27:08 AM »
scripps in a reputable agency, my friend.  And 1000 adults CAN show the beliefs of 300 million within a given margin for error.

Perhaps if you spent more time in a stats class, and less time defending an obvious lie by your security blanket of a politcal party, you would learn something.

BTW - many "rational" people have called 911 an inside job.  Ppl from both parties, people from scientists to engineers to college professors to former CIA agents.  But, you go suck your thumb and cuddle your republican party blanket, Linus.

Surveys are a bunch a bull, I get republican ones all the time, and the only reason I get them is I have a free membership to limbaugh. So they mail to all of his listeners and then act like it is a balanced result. GOP has theirs, Dems have theirs but none of them are accurate. If you poll 1,000 people in MO, KS, AR, IL and Iowa and then poll 1,000 in MA, NH, ME, NJ and CT you would get completely different results. Polls are useless
gotta love life

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #109 on: January 25, 2007, 11:34:24 AM »
Surveys are a bunch a bull, I get republican ones all the time, and the only reason I get them is I have a free membership to limbaugh. So they mail to all of his listeners and then act like it is a balanced result. GOP has theirs, Dems have theirs but none of them are accurate. If you poll 1,000 people in MO, KS, AR, IL and Iowa and then poll 1,000 in MA, NH, ME, NJ and CT you would get completely different results. Polls are useless

Polls are useless?

LOL!

Please take that GI bill and take a statistics course dude.  I'm trying to explain the mona lisa to a blind man here.

Hedgehog

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 19464
  • It Rubs The Lotion On Its Skin.
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #110 on: January 25, 2007, 11:47:06 AM »
Surveys are a bunch a bull, I get republican ones all the time, and the only reason I get them is I have a free membership to limbaugh. So they mail to all of his listeners and then act like it is a balanced result. GOP has theirs, Dems have theirs but none of them are accurate. If you poll 1,000 people in MO, KS, AR, IL and Iowa and then poll 1,000 in MA, NH, ME, NJ and CT you would get completely different results. Polls are useless

There are rules for how to conduct surveys.

You make some very good points, there are a lot of bullshitters out there that doesn't take the necessary steps that are needed to produce truthful survey results.

However, survey institutes are generally pretty good at this. Why? Because it's their business idea to be as accurate as possible.

If they're able to give survey results that give a truthful illustration of how Americans feel about an issue, that is good business for them.

So in order for surveys to be truthful, the are usually conducted throughout the country, and on a demographically widespread group.

But this is mainly the serious survey companies, and universities.

You still raise a very valid point however. Those surveys you're asked to fill in, they're probably also used to scan the Limbaugh audience, know how his audience has changed their opinions on the topics that Limbaugh discusses on his show, so he more easily can address his audience.

My best advice to you would be to either send it back blank or fill it in randomly. 8)

-Hedge
As empty as paradise

OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #111 on: January 25, 2007, 11:47:44 AM »
Polls are useless?

LOL!

Please take that GI bill and take a statistics course dude.  I'm trying to explain the mona lisa to a blind man here.

Polls aren't useless but they can be manipulated to reflect points of view.

militarymuscle69

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2655
  • You can't be a citizen unless you serve
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #112 on: January 25, 2007, 11:50:02 AM »
Polls are useless?

LOL!

Please take that GI bill and take a statistics course dude.  I'm trying to explain the mona lisa to a blind man here.

I don't need a stats class to know that human beings have motives. Even the stat companies. I wish it weren't true but it is. I jst don't pay attention to them.
gotta love life

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #113 on: January 25, 2007, 11:53:58 AM »
I don't need a stats class to know that human beings have motives. Even the stat companies. I wish it weren't true but it is. I jst don't pay attention to them.

So you are arguing against the reliability of polls conducted by economists and statisticians at firms that use polling data for many purposes in our society.

You admit you have no statistics training and it seems you don't understand the concepts presented here.

I think most rational people might believe an economist before your claim of "polls are useless".


Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 66378
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #114 on: January 25, 2007, 11:56:12 AM »
I don't need a stats class to know that human beings have motives. Even the stat companies. I wish it weren't true but it is. I jst don't pay attention to them.

I agree.  Polls can be manipulated.  Careful phrasing of questions can produce a desired and/or unreliable outcome.  You always have to question the pool.  Sometimes I pay attention to them, sometimes not. 

Mr. Intenseone

  • Guest
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #115 on: January 25, 2007, 12:11:12 PM »
Spin my ass, how much do you want to bet that I can dig of a whole lot of rebuttals you completely ignored.  How much I?  I'll take that bet.  I didn't say 10.143 was a lot of posts, but it's enough that you don't have any reason to not be answering replies.  out of everyone here, you are the most notorious for doing it.  What do you want a plan for?  There are no shortage of plans.  Unfortunately there is more spin from the right that there are no plans.  So you come here and regurgitate your fucking bullshit from Hannity and Rush, but don't think it's realty.  It's not. ;) The onus is on you, name exactly what there is no plan for.  I recommend you find something other than Iraq because it's pretty fucking apparent that Bush's plan isn't exactly working.  The people are pissed at Bush's plan, not the dems lack of a plan.  And they have presented quite a few ignored ideas and even some ideas that were picked up by republicans.  Like the idea of phasing a redistribution of troops nearby. That idea originated on the left and was picked up by some republicans with ZERO credit given.  You don't even have your facts straight on this stuff anyway.  You actually think the plan for working with Syria and Iran for Iraq came from the dems, infact it mostly came from the Iraq Study Group ;)  Ohhhh.... Ooops huh ::) 

Hahaha...okay, I have a little time so I'll respond (and it just pisses you off when I don't answer you right away LOL. This is the thing......the Dems ran on an agenda talking shit about how the war is going in Iraq, that was basically the only issue they ran on.....they couldn't complain about the economy or many other social issues for that matter so the only thing they had left was the war, and even with that they BARELY won and you have one dem that was almost on his death bed and even now can hardly function and if God for bid (I don't wish harm on anyone) he remains incapacitated or dies the Repubs regain power. Now they ran on the war agenda, they won, but after all the complaining and critisizing and backstabbing and dirty politics and saying hw they are going to change things....they still have nothing and it isn't even first on their agenda, as a matter of fact, it seems like they won't even bring it up until someone else does. You said they presented a few ignored ideas, there ideas were basically pull all troops NOW, deploy the troops to other regions or have a "Dialog" with the enemy.

1. We'll have troops in Iraq for the next 20 years so a complete pullout is not an option So deal with it. 2. Phasing the troops and redeploying IMO is the best idea 3. Having a "dialog" is the most retarded suggestion I have ever heard coming from any politition. You can't do any of these things until the Iraqi Army has their own handle on thing and Bush said in the last speech he would give them six months (or something like that). Anyways, yes the Dems voted on this war too and get on a band wagon everytime someone says something negitive.....they are robots!

militarymuscle69

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2655
  • You can't be a citizen unless you serve
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #116 on: January 25, 2007, 12:12:15 PM »
So you are arguing against the reliability of polls conducted by economists and statisticians at firms that use polling data for many purposes in our society.

You admit you have no statistics training and it seems you don't understand the concepts presented here.

I think most rational people might believe an economist before your claim of "polls are useless".



That is what I am saying. America is to obsessed with worhtless numbers. Even if they prove my point, I still pay no attention
gotta love life

Mr. Intenseone

  • Guest
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #117 on: January 25, 2007, 12:12:29 PM »
Here's this, not far off the mark.

"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Telling the truth 16%

Hiding something 53%

Mostly lying 28%

Not sure 3%"

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/poll_only_16_percent_believe_gov_on_911.htm



Oh brother!

Mr. Intenseone

  • Guest
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #118 on: January 25, 2007, 12:14:04 PM »
   (you are always fast at answering my question)

Thats because he has nothing better to do ;D!!

Hugo Chavez

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 31865
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2007, 12:23:44 PM »
Oh brother!
Oh brother what?  Are you oh brothering all those polls ::)  I'll respond to your other post tonight, time to crash...

Hugo Chavez

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 31865
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #120 on: January 25, 2007, 12:24:39 PM »
No, you didn't...........  i was echoing your "waiting" for Mr. I to respond.   (you are always fast at answering my question)
cool, sorry for misunderstanding ;)

Mr. Intenseone

  • Guest
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #121 on: January 25, 2007, 12:27:15 PM »
  I'll respond to your other post tonight, time to crash...

NO......I want a response NOW :D!!

LOL!

Hugo Chavez

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 31865
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #122 on: January 25, 2007, 12:29:01 PM »
Oh please.  Who are these "1,010 adults"?   ::)  The 911 nuts are a small but vocal minority.  Most rational people don't believe this crap. 
You're going to mock all these polls?  Zogby, Scripps Howard/Ohio University,  New York Times/CBS News poll...  ::)

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 66378
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #123 on: January 25, 2007, 12:37:35 PM »
You're going to mock all these polls?  Zogby, Scripps Howard/Ohio University,  New York Times/CBS News poll...  ::)

 ::)  I am specifically mocking this 911 nonsense. 

"Polls can be manipulated.  Careful phrasing of questions can produce a desired and/or unreliable outcome.  You always have to question the pool.  Sometimes I pay attention to them, sometimes not." 

Mr. Intenseone

  • Guest
Re: HAHHAHAH BUSH`S Approval RATING is 28 Percent!
« Reply #124 on: January 25, 2007, 12:38:09 PM »
Poll: Third of Americans suspect 9/11 inside job

Poll: Third of Americans suspect 9/11 inside job
Asset H10263 Posted By whitey


Tell "whitey" we said thanks for that ::)!!