DISGUSTED: Bodybuilding Guru?

[Palpatine Q]

Of course bones Vary in thickness, size and shape and proportion.  Enough to totally dispel the Endo,Ecto,Meso argument.

Bone Size determines Muscle attatchment. 

No, where the muscle attaches  determines muscle attachment genius.

Do you even know what the hell you are talking about 95% of the time or do you just post your idiotic streams of consciousness?

[Van_Bilderass]

Bone Size determines Muscle attatchment. 

Nah, I know guys with light bone structures and long, full muscle bellies and vice versa. Totally wrong here.

[The True Adonis]

Nah, I know guys with light bone structures and long, full muscle bellies and vice versa. Totally wrong here.

Exactly my point. 

[The True Adonis]

No, where the muscle attaches  determines muscle attachment genius.

Do you even know what the hell you are talking about 95% of the time or do you just post your idiotic streams of consciousness?

4. Location of the Muscle Attachment (Association with Bone)

Many muscles are named as a result of their association with a particular bone. The temporalis muscle is found covering the temporal bone while the frontalis muscle is found covering the frontal bone of the skull.

5. Location of Muscle's Origin and Insertion on Bones:

All muscles have an origin and insertion. The origin is the part of the body, usually a bone, where the muscle attaches, and does not move when the muscle contracts. The insertion is the part of the body where the muscle attaches, and moves when the muscle contracts. Some muscles are named based upon their origin and insertion. The first part of the muscle name indicates the origin while the second part indicates the insertion. For example, the muscle that has its origin on the breast bone and clavicle (collar bone) and that inserts on a breast shaped process of the skull is termed the sternocleidomastoid: sterno (G: "breast bone"), cleido (G: "clavicle"), and mastoid (G: "breast shape").

[Van_Bilderass]

Exactly my point. 

So how does the bone size determine muscle attachments? Some simply have poor attachments, whether they are light or heavy boned. How are they related?

[The True Adonis]

So how does the bone size determine muscle attachments? Some simply have poor attachments, whether they are light or heavy boned. How are they related?

Bone length for the most part.

Here is a good, simple site you can read.
http://www.maexamhelp.com/id89.htm

[Van_Bilderass]

Bone length for the most part.

Here is a good, simple site you can read.
http://www.maexamhelp.com/id89.htm

So when you have two guys with the same length upper arm bone but one has short biceps and the other long what determines that?

[Disgusted]

Poliquin has the same philosophy when it comes to cardio, I personally don't believe in cardio for long periods of time (60-90mins) and I've heard some people have gone as long as 2 hours and that IMO is a waste, I have always preferred intense interval sessions consisting of 30-40min tops, studies have shown that intense interval sessions burn much more than long slow cardio sessions!

I believe that you are reffering to HITT

[The True Adonis]

So when you have two guys with the same length upper arm bone but one has short biceps and the other long what determines that?

Im not sure I follow.  Can you provide me with Picture evidence.  I am not sure I know what a "Short" bicep is.

[Van_Bilderass]

Can't go very intense for 30-40 minutes. Intervals for 5-10 minutes to start or something.

[oldtimer1]

I have done it all when it comes to training and I mean ALL!!! I the end I believe in a higher volume type workout. Say 15 to 20 sets on average sometimes more, sometimes less. I do between 12 to 20 reps for legs and sometimes up to 50. Upper body around 12 reps. Workout should last no longer than 40 min on average.

How can you do 15 to 20 sets a body part in 40 minutes unless your using super light weights and 30 seconds rest or less inbetween sets?  Let's take chest for example using 5 sets of flat benches; 5 sets of inclines; 5 sets of flys and finish with 5 sets of dips.  If you could do all that in 45 minutes with any type of real weight it would be amazing to watch.  

[The True Adonis]

How can you do 15 to 20 sets a body part in 40 minutes unless your using super light weights and 30 seconds rest or less inbetween sets?  Let's take chest for example using 5 sets of flat benches; 5 sets of inclines; 5 sets of flys and finish with 5 sets of dips.  If you could do all that in 45 minutes with any type of real weight it would be amazing to watch.  

That is EASY to do in the given time frame. 

[Palpatine Q]

4. Location of the Muscle Attachment (Association with Bone)

Many muscles are named as a result of their association with a particular bone. The temporalis muscle is found covering the temporal bone while the frontalis muscle is found covering the frontal bone of the skull.

5. Location of Muscle's Origin and Insertion on Bones:

All muscles have an origin and insertion. The origin is the part of the body, usually a bone, where the muscle attaches, and does not move when the muscle contracts. The insertion is the part of the body where the muscle attaches, and moves when the muscle contracts. Some muscles are named based upon their origin and insertion. The first part of the muscle name indicates the origin while the second part indicates the insertion. For example, the muscle that has its origin on the breast bone and clavicle (collar bone) and that inserts on a breast shaped process of the skull is termed the sternocleidomastoid: sterno (G: "breast bone"), cleido (G: "clavicle"), and mastoid (G: "breast shape").

How does posting the name origin of certain muscles correlate to where they insert on a given bone?

Oh....that's right,it doesn't. carry on.

[Van_Bilderass]

Im not sure I follow.  Can you provide me with Picture evidence.  I am not sure I know what a "Short" bicep is.

When the tendon is long and bicep is short. Surely you know that some peoples bicep bellies go all the way into their elbow whereas some, like me, can fit 4 fingers between the elbow crease and start of the bicep belly.

[Disgusted]

How can you do 15 to 20 sets a body part in 40 minutes unless your using super light weights and 30 seconds rest or less inbetween sets?  Let's take chest for example using 5 sets of flat benches; 5 sets of inclines; 5 sets of flys and finish with 5 sets of dips.  If you could do all that in 45 minutes with any type of real weight it would be amazing to watch.  

I do it all the time bro. I check my ego at the door and work my muscle not my tendons or adrenal glands. Rest between sets is anywhere from 30 sec for arms to 1 min or slightly more for legs. I will admit to longer when I am squatting.

BTW, "real weight" as I define it is a load that is heavy enough to tax the muscle given the amount of time that I rest between sets. If I rested another min then I could use more weight, but this is not always the deciding factor in muscle growth.

[oldtimer1]

I'll repeat.  How could you use anything heavy working out that fast.  I use six sets a body part and if I were to do that volume the weight used would go down drastically.

[The Squadfather]

hahahaha, "oldtimer" sounds like the type of clown you see in the gym reading a newspaper for 15 minutes in between sets of massive 205lb. bench presses for 4 reps.

[Disgusted]

I'll repeat.  How could you use anything heavy working out that fast.  I use six sets a body part and if I were to do that volume the weight used would go down drastically.

Haha reread my post. I was adding something as you were tpying.

[jwb]

I'll repeat.  How could you use anything heavy working out that fast.  I use six sets a body part and if I were to do that volume the weight used would go down drastically.

what do you define as heavy?... going to failure using proper form is what people should be doing but the amount of weight on the bar may not be as high as it could be with more rest and poor form but so what?

[Moen]

You start with the heaviest weight you'll use on that exercise first disgusted, so in conventional terms 'pyramid down' ?

[oldtimer1]

Squadfather go back to your job delivering pizza and say hello to your mother when you head back to your room with the rock posters on the walls.  I have been around this game longer than you have been alive I bet.  I'll bring this down to your level.  I know you are but what I'm I?  

[The True Adonis]

When the tendon is long and bicep is short. Surely you know that some peoples bicep bellies go all the way into their elbow whereas some, like me, can fit 4 fingers between the elbow crease and start of the bicep belly.

I think you are confusing the thickness of fibers.  Nobody has a Bicep that does not connect near th elbow.

[The Squadfather]

Squadfather go back to your job delivering pizza and say hello to your mother when you head back to your room with the rock posters on the walls.  I have been around this game longer than you have been alive I bet.  I'll bring this down to your level.  I know you are but what I'm I?  

hahahahaha, sounds like i really have you pegged by my post, i really touched a nerve.

[Van_Bilderass]

what do you define as heavy?... going to failure using proper form is what people should be doing but the amount of weight on the bar may not be as high as it could be with more rest and poor form but so what?

Tension is important though or we wouldn't have to go to a gym at all. We'd buy some rubber bands and grow like crazy. Tension is not everything but it's important.

[210 and growing]

about the cardio thing,,

NOT NEEDED IF YOU JUST TRY TO GET CUT/RIPPED LOOK. if you prep for comp i would use cardio for a limited period of time (walking threadmil never  running) ,,i do it,,chris did it,, ray did it,,labrada did it,,all could get ripped with out it yet done pre competition for limited time.

as a general rule,,if you truly are a serious lifter in decent shape at ~13%bf,,you can take  anavar at 100mg a day (220lb lifter) for about 12 weeks and  get down to ~7% with zero cardio and zero other products but food,,
try it you will like

gh15, why do you say always walking and never running? Just that i have a v low resting heart rate and would find it virtually impossible to get my heart rate to over 100 by walking alone, even briskly, and therefore in theory, would not be burning fat?