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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #175 on: March 09, 2007, 07:49:02 AM »
you're missing the point.  Yes you can play with the manditories but c'mon now, it's an internet BB show and doesn't change the fact that whateva has a much better and more complete physique, even hitting poses half assed he look better.
Whatever has a smaller frame. When i looked at Mr.Gebig i put adonis in as first simply because i could tell he put much more effort into the show then whatever. He also had i thought better posing.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #176 on: March 09, 2007, 07:51:42 AM »
Whatever has a smaller frame. When i looked at Mr.Gebig i put adonis in as first simply because i could tell he put much more effort into the show then whatever. He also had i thought better posing.

That's the sad part.

Adonis put his life into the contest he created, and he still lost LOL.


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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #177 on: March 09, 2007, 07:59:30 AM »
Show me an example when you say way of adonis is too much. I don't know which pose you speak of.



You cant step one leg forward during double bi F. Judge will tell you if you do this.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #178 on: March 09, 2007, 08:00:24 AM »
Mandatories are not mandatories. You are wrong... tell me which looks better. This shot of arold with a twisted waist or with a dead on waist.

From the judges perspective, I would mark points down for missing bodyparts (e.g. Adonis' other leg in the "front double bi").

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #179 on: March 09, 2007, 08:02:20 AM »
Whatever has a smaller frame. When i looked at Mr.Gebig i put adonis in as first simply because i could tell he put much more effort into the show then whatever. He also had i thought better posing.

nobody gets points in BB for putting more into it, if they did Rich Gaspari would have been MR.O from 85-91, Whateva is just genetically superior to what TA can bring to the table, bigger frame or no bigger frame.  Greg Kovacs had a bigger frame than Shawn Ray but he wasn't even in the same league.
nasser=piece of shit

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #180 on: March 09, 2007, 08:05:16 AM »
Plus. Many of bigginers think that Doble bi is the posing of biceps.

When you hit double bi,most important thing is How you show the out line of your lat and triceps.
So automaticaly,you should up your elbow little bit and down your shoulders.

Look at how TA pose this. His elbow is down and his shoulder is up. So he is hiding his lat more and more.And lose his outline. Better study more.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #181 on: March 09, 2007, 08:06:31 AM »
MY sculpture would be featured in a Gallery in Florence WAY before ANY Current Pro Bodybuilder.

Their physiques are not art or artistic enough.

  This is correct. However, the greatest masterpiece in sculpture of all times, Michaelangelo's David, was not exactly the depiction of even an athletic physique. It shows an impossibly good-looking boy who appears to be about 17 or 18 years old possesed of a physique that is only lean and not necessarily muscular.

  The statue, made by the great artist in the Renaissance, follows the traditional Greek and Roman taste for depicting ephebes - post-adolescent boys between puberty and young manhood. The ancient Greeks and Romans considered teenage boys and not women the epitome of Human beauty. The female body were considered to be unaesthetic due to it's wide hips and narrow clavicles.
 
  There were statues that depicted boys engaged in athletic activities, playing a musical instrument or just posing. Regardless, all the boys depicted had one thing in common: extraordinary, truly superb genetics, evidenced by their bodily symmetry and aesthetics, as well as beautiful faces.

  "David" is an apparent depiction of king David. However, this has been questioned, because David was obviously circumcised, while the boy's penis depicted follows the Greek tradition of showing it intact. More likely, the Italian boy who served as model for the statue was intact. The ancient Greeks and Romans, as well as modern Europeans, regarded the circumcised penis as deformed and mutilated. Exposing the glans was considered an utmost offense.

  Anyway, Michaelangelo's David represents what bodybuilding is all about to me: perfect structure, proportion&symmetry as well as aesthetics - both bodily and facial. While the physique and face of the boy used as model for "David" are the result of praeter-human genes, we should all strive to fulfill this ideal to the best of our abilities. To learn more about Michaelangelo's David, see here:

  en.wikipeda.org/wiki/Michaelangelo's_David

  Basically, there are two types of bodybuilding fans: there are true bodybuilding fans and then there massbuildig fans, who are the majority of people who attend pro shows. They go there to see huge muscles with insane ripedness, and that's all thye care about. Bodybuilding fans like me, conversely, care about the complete package that makes a great physique, which includes not only muscular development but also skeletal structure, proportion&symmetry and aesthetics.

  While Michaleangelo's David is nothing special when it comes to muscularity, he epitomizes all the latter traits to the uttmost. No Human Being is as perfect in bodily and facial proportion&symmetry and aesthetics as the boys depicted in the Classical statues and of the Renaissance, but that's what ideals are: models of the impossible, which serve to inspire. :)

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #182 on: March 09, 2007, 08:07:37 AM »


You cant step one leg forward during double bi F. Judge will tell you if you do this.

Yeah but that i think was the only over exaggerated case.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #183 on: March 09, 2007, 08:09:08 AM »
Yeah but that i think was the only over exaggerated case.
Then show me the good double bi front of TA.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #184 on: March 09, 2007, 08:12:00 AM »
Mandatories are not mandatories.

 ???

Ok, so what are they then? They're... mandatories?

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You are wrong... tell me which looks better. This shot of arold with a twisted waist or with a dead on waist.

The first pic is the front double bi mandatory at a contest.

The other one is a free posing pic, at the beach.



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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #185 on: March 09, 2007, 08:14:33 AM »
Well for me,Francis benfatt,shawn,serge nubret,bob paris...etc own more artistic physic than david.
Their physics are more artistic than greek statues.
You guys brain are so washed and even you cant feel your sense of beauty.Carefuly look at those statue,how many of them have Vtaper physic?

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #186 on: March 09, 2007, 08:15:26 AM »
Then show me the good double bi front of TA.
I never said there was another one.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #187 on: March 09, 2007, 08:16:51 AM »
???

Ok, so what are they then? They're... mandatories?

The first pic is the front double bi mandatory at a contest.

The other one is a free posing pic, at the beach.



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Dont be stupid with me. I can find plenty of arnold twisting his waist during competetion.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #188 on: March 09, 2007, 08:17:01 AM »
I never said there was another one.
Well admit TA dont pose correctly.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #189 on: March 09, 2007, 08:17:45 AM »
Dont be stupid with me. I can find plenty of arnold twisting his waist during competetion.
Show me an example.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #190 on: March 09, 2007, 08:23:49 AM »
Show me an example.
Ughhh you are ridiculous... Guess you havent seen pumping iron. You must be new to bodybuilding. Sorry.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #191 on: March 09, 2007, 08:27:18 AM »
From the judges perspective, I would mark points down for missing bodyparts (e.g. Adonis' other leg in the "front double bi").
Then you aren't a very smart judge.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #192 on: March 09, 2007, 08:28:25 AM »
Ughhh you are ridiculous... Guess you havent seen pumping iron. You must be new to bodybuilding. Sorry.
Hahahaha I have competed several times and 19years i have been in this sport.Arnold did slightly twist.Not really TWISTING. Strictly saying, not twisting but moving little bit to his left side. Plus first pic is not mandatory one.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #193 on: March 09, 2007, 08:28:33 AM »
Well admit TA dont pose correctly.
Some of his poses could be better. You make it sound as if he butchered them. Hahahah i bet you drop your butt and stick it out when you hit a side chest and squat while running your hands all over your ass and hammies when u hit a back double biceps..... delusional

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #194 on: March 09, 2007, 08:29:47 AM »
Hahahaha I have competed several times and 19years i have been in this sport.Arnold did slightly twist.Not really TWISTING. Strictly saying, not twisting but moving little bit to his left side. Plus first pic is not mandatory one.
Doesn't matter. You always hide weak points. Why show them. I bet you compete in hot pink brazillian cut trunks with sequens on then AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Gayer then forced reps on tricep kick backs.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #195 on: March 09, 2007, 08:34:18 AM »
Doesn't matter. You always hide weak points. Why show them. I bet you compete in hot pink brazillian cut trunks with sequens on then AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Gayer then forced reps on tricep kick backs.
If judge let you hide it, you can. But they dont let you.
You are pathetic loser and now insult me.
I used to pose with black trunks on stage.And i won best posing award in 1995 wabba barcelona championship.
Post a pic pencil neck kid.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #196 on: March 09, 2007, 08:35:54 AM »
Two of the greatest, if not the greatest bodybuilders ever.

The Myth, without a doubt the most gifted ever. Incredible to see how Arnold is able to hang with him.



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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #197 on: March 09, 2007, 08:37:59 AM »
Two of the greatest, if not the greatest bodybuilders ever.

The Myth, without a doubt the most gifted ever. Incredible to see how Arnold is able to hang with him.



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Who won this? Serg or arnie? I always confuse a lot...

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #198 on: March 09, 2007, 08:43:15 AM »
Who won this? Serg or arnie? I always confuse a lot...

Arnold.

The year after Oliva came in at his best ever, 1972 Essen. But still lost.

Arnold looked his best in 1973 or 1974 IMO.

Although, he's pretty awesome here.

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Re: The True Adonis vs. Whateva!!!!
« Reply #199 on: March 09, 2007, 08:57:42 AM »
Arnold.

The year after Oliva came in at his best ever, 1972 Essen. But still lost.

Arnold looked his best in 1973 or 1974 IMO.

Although, he's pretty awesome here.

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Maybe he could beat Segio with his condition.
From this pic,i think fairly judged.