Do you guys think any woman would prefer a BBers build over this guy?

[benchthis]

Okay I'm not a guy but can I throw in my 2 cents worth? To answer your question outright..no he's a dork...BBers are tha bomb...That guy is trying but he has a few years of training ahead of him....Now to answer for the general population of females: he's too buff...

your just a closet dyke

[Zaney]

i never claimed to be a pro, i am bigger and stronger than you, i am fatter no doubt but i'll  gaurantee you that my arms, legs, chest, shoulders all measure more than yours along with the stomach of course.

Squadfather, you sure look like shit.

[Matt C]

How much gear does a 5'9 man have to run to be 210 and lean year round?    Assuming an average response to gear.  Discuss.

[gordiano]

How much gear does a 5'9 man have to run to be 210 and lean year round?    Assuming an average response to gear.  Discuss.

You thinking about going to the dark side, Matt? 

[Matt C]

You thinking about going to the dark side, Matt? 

Hell ya.

By the way, men are never too big providing that they hold their muscle well.  Gunter at 280 is not "too big", while Branch at 230 is too big.

[Bluto]

maybe if you didnt lose all that muscle on the adonis diet you wouldnt need to start juicing

[Matt C]

maybe if you didnt lose all that muscle on the adonis diet you wouldnt need to start juicing

I'm getting it back though, and strength is going way up.  I will end up around 205 then might go on something from there.

[Bluto]

I'm getting it back though, and strength is going way up.  I will end up around 205 then might go on something from there.

so you reckon 205 is your genetic limit

maybe you just need to hook up with garreth and a few shakes to pass it naturally

or if you wanna add a lot of fat to your frame hook up with squadfather, im sure he can have you up to 240 in no time

[Matt C]

so you reckon 205 is your genetic limit

Yes - at my current level of body fat at least.  I find that is where I hit a plateau.  I'm not 100% sure on that though, and it's possible I could be that weight at a lower body fat, or have the same body fat at a higher weight.  Based on past experiences I plateau once I hit a little over 200.  Layne Norton said he gets up to about 230 before his gains stall.  He holds a lean 215 comfortably.

[Bluto]

so what weight are you aiming for

[Coach]

Yes - at my current level of body fat at least.  I find that is where I hit a plateau.  I'm not 100% sure on that though, and it's possible I could be that weight at a lower body fat, or have the same body fat at a higher weight.  Based on past experiences I plateau once I hit a little over 200.  Layne Norton said he gets up to about 230 before his gains stall.  He holds a lean 215 comfortably.

Layne Norton is a few inches taller than you though, in terms of lbs per inch you aren't so different.

[Coach]

you know what the funny thing is dude, i gave this guy mad compliments telling him he looked great which he does of course, that's just the truth but he only saw the part where i told him what his lifts and bodypart measurements were and he lost his mind and came back with the same old "you wouldn't last 5 minutes with me" bullshit.

Taking into account that he holds more muscle mass than you, and he's shorter, I would be surprised if you were stronger.

[Bluto]

squadfather is a delusioned fatbody. he isnt big. he isnt strong. i wonder if people ever think he lifts weight.
sure doesnt look like it.

[D.L. 5]

a good hairline,

i have the stathan hairline 

[Matt C]

Layne Norton is a few inches taller than you though, in terms of lbs per inch you aren't so different.

Perhaps that is true.  Layne is interesting - when he hits a most muscular I would think he is a pro if I didn't see his face and know it was him.  But in other poses he looks somewhat ordinary.

[Zaney]

Perhaps that is true.  Layne is interesting - when he hits a most muscular I would think he is a pro if I didn't see his face and know it was him.  But in other poses he looks somewhat ordinary.

layne looks like shit at all angles to me.

[Matt C]

layne looks like shit at all angles to me.

Discuss.

[Acerimmer1]

Muscle is important to women, whether they are even consciously aware of it or not.  But there are things that are just as important: straight white teeth, a good hairline, good hygiene and matching clothes, and above all else, a good face.  The dude in the picture would not attract more women with more muscle, and would maybe even attract less.

Yes although his upper chest is too flat. It's so flat looking it's making me feel sick! There obviously would be Women who would prefer him more muscular, less muscular, fatter, taller, shorter, whiter, or with pearcings. It's all a matter of preference. It just depends if you want mass appeal. If you aren't great looking maybe you should consider catering to a niche market and bulk up to 400lbs and put a bolt through your dick.

[Zaney]

Discuss.

Shit, indeed.

[Zaney]

Yes although his upper chest is too flat. It's so flat looking it's making me feel sick! There obviously would be Women who would prefer him more muscular, less muscular, fatter, taller, shorter, whiter, or with pearcings. It's all a matter of preference. It just depends if you want mass appeal. If you aren't great looking maybe you should consider catering to a niche market and bulk up to 400lbs and put a bolt through your dick.

you think ladies would know/care about upper chest/lower chest?

[Herc]

im sure woman would prefer that guy over a bodybuilder.  he could probably gain some muscle mass and atracked more woman though.   If he gained maybe 10 or 15lbs of muscle he would look better and atraced woman that like muscles which is a lot of woman and not scare off the ones that dont like bodybuilders.

[jr]

I'm getting it back though, and strength is going way up.  I will end up around 205 then might go on something from there.

Are you going to compete in some sport or bodybuilding?

Do you really want to risk screwing up you natural hormonal system for life, just for a few extra pounds of muscle. You will eventually revert back to where you were or worse after discontinuing steroids. Haven't you noticed that at all the steroid boards there is always a "Mens Health" or similar section. This is where a lot of posters in the steroid section end up after a couple of years.

At a lean 200lbs you carry more muscle mass than 99% of people.

[Cleanest Natural]

squadfather I believe is truly delusional as well as other trolls round here...post full body pics in a good light and please stop comparing yourselves with top fitness modells cause it's ludicrous.

[gordiano]

Are you going to compete in some sport or bodybuilding?

Do you really want to risk screwing up you natural hormonal system for life, just for a few extra pounds of muscle. You will eventually revert back to where you were or worse after discontinuing steroids. Haven't you noticed that at all the steroid boards there is always a "Mens Health" or similar section. This is where a lot of posters in the steroid section end up after a couple of years.

At a lean 200lbs you carry more muscle mass than 99% of people.

Good post.


What's the point of temporary muscles, Matt?

[Kwon]

i never claimed to be a pro, i am bigger and stronger than you, i am fatter no doubt but i'll  gaurantee you that my arms, legs, chest, shoulders all measure more than yours along with the stomach of course.

Squad looks bigger,stronger and tougher than Scott.