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« on: August 29, 2007, 11:08:49 AM »

Report: Hillary Clinton Big Money Donor Wanted for Grand Theft
Wednesday, August 29, 2007

U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton
A Democratic fundraiser who has raised $1 million for presidential candidate Hillary Clinton says he has done nothing wrong and has asked no favors in return, but Norman Hsu didn't mention that he's a wanted man.

A California prosecutor says Hsu pleaded no contest to grand theft, was sentenced to three years in prison and then disappeared, The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295031,00.html

What is going on with these Democrats?  Fieger indicted for illegal campaign contributions to Edwards.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=164964.0

Married L.A. mayor sleeping with a news reporter who covers him.   http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=157718.0

S.F. mayor sleeping with his campaign manager's wife.   http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=123851.0

Married New Jersey governor having homosexual affair.   http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/12/mcgreevey.nj/

Member of Congress accepting bribes.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=152739.0

How did I do Berserker?   Cheesy

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2007, 11:24:11 AM »

Their list of political misdeeds are lengthy..but we have Iraq and 'gasp" a politician looking for free blowjobs...from guys Roll Eyes...next scandal. I think its the Dems turn...maybe one will turn out to be a "furry" caught buggering a sheep or something.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2007, 11:32:19 AM »

Their list of political misdeeds are lengthy..but we have Iraq and 'gasp" a politician looking for free blowjobs...from guys Roll Eyes...next scandal. I think its the Dems turn...maybe one will turn out to be a "furry" caught buggering a sheep or something.

Yeah.   Smiley  I don't think either party has a monopoly on misconduct.  It's an individual thing.  That said, if these guys cannot stay out of trouble while they are holding a public office, they need to go.   
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2007, 12:13:26 PM »

If I recall correctly the Gov of NJ, the Mayor of SF and LA  all eventually admitted what they did and took responsibility - unlike Repub's who just deny, deny, deny

It does seem like the self hating, closeting gay guy in denial is a speciality of the Republicans

Campaign Finance is a cesspool on both sides of the aisle.

Jefferson is an idiot and I believe the Dems were very quick to repudiate him

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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2007, 12:22:59 PM »

Well I think he should come out and say he's gay...its obvious. The guy from Florida resigned....(page scandal) This guy needs to do the right thing.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2007, 12:48:17 PM »

How did you do for what?  You really want to compare lists, you'll lose...

I was joking.  I don't really care which list is longer.  Would be sort of a pointless and sad competition. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2007, 12:50:39 PM »

Loose...The Clinton's....that would be enough.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2007, 12:50:56 PM »

If I recall correctly the Gov of NJ, the Mayor of SF and LA  all eventually admitted what they did and took responsibility - unlike Repub's who just deny, deny, deny


Wrong.  They "admitted" and "took responsibility" only after they were outed.  Pretty much every man who gets caught denies until they are cornered, from Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich.    
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2007, 12:58:08 PM »

Wrong.  They "admitted" and "took responsibility" only after they were outed.  Pretty much every man who gets caught denies until they are cornered, from Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich.    

There is nothing to deny until there is an accusation.  In the cases you mentioned the people involved pretty quickly admitted guilt and RESPONSIBILITY.    Also, I think the SF Mayor might have "outed" himself, no doubt to get ahead of the story. 

The Repugs usually LIE and DENY right up until the time their convicted and then they get in front of a camera and start crying and usually blame alchohol (OK Newsom did that too but at least he was banging a hot chick - the ony bad thing was that it was his best friends wife)

Think Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Abramoff, Safavian, etc.....
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2007, 01:15:45 PM »

There is nothing to deny until there is an accusation.  In the cases you mentioned the people involved pretty quickly admitted guilt and RESPONSIBILITY.    Also, I think the SF Mayor might have "outed" himself, no doubt to get ahead of the story. 

The Repugs usually LIE and DENY right up until the time their convicted and then they get in front of a camera and start crying and usually blame alchohol (OK Newsom did that too but at least he was banging a hot chick - the ony bad thing was that it was his best friends wife)

Think Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Abramoff, Safavian, etc.....

If any of these public figures had scruples they would keep their pants up and avoid breaking the law while they are holding a position of public trust.  None of those guys "quickly admitted" guilt.  That's absurd.  They "admitted" only after they were caught.  Even Bill Clinton denied until they found the semen stained dress.  All of those guys have the same m.o. (deny until there is conclusive proof they actually did it).   

I'm particularly put off by Newsome.  Sleeping with your campaign manager's wife is about as low as you can get IMO.  Amazing how these brazen losers refuse to resign after getting caught with their pants down.     
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I'm particularly put off by Newsome.  Sleeping with your campaign manager's wife is about as low as you can get IMO.  Amazing how these brazen losers refuse to resign after getting caught with their pants down.     


If some sort of corruption related to your elected duties is uncovered, then you should be drummed out of office.

But sleeping around? That has nothing to do with your effectiveness as a politician.

Politicians throughout history are notorious for infidelity.  We're gonna expect them to keep it zipped, all of a sudden, because the media has devolved into a collection of busybodies with hidden cameras?
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2007, 01:40:21 PM »

If some sort of corruption related to your elected duties is uncovered, then you should be drummed out of office.

But sleeping around? That has nothing to do with your effectiveness as a politician.

Politicians throughout history are notorious for infidelity.  We're gonna expect them to keep it zipped, all of a sudden, because the media has devolved into a collection of busybodies with hidden cameras?

I disagree.  Take Newsome for example.  Your campaign manager is pretty much like a brother (or sister).  I wouldn't trust someone who does what that guy did.  It's despicable IMO.    

The married L.A. mayor sleeping with a reporter who covers him doesn't create an appearance problem?  Are you kidding?  

Clinton getting a blow job while he is on the phone with a senator (i.e., committing adultery), while members of the military are punished, including getting discharged for committing adultery isn't a problem?  The president is the commander in chief and adultery is a crime in the military.  He lost his moral authority to be commander in chief IMO.    

I could go on, but these guys hold positions of public trust.  They are role models.  They are held to a higher standard.  They either need to keep their act together or step down.  
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William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate

Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.

Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.

DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.

Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.

Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.

James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments.

Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.

Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..

Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.

Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.

Melvin Jay Reynolds - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.

Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.

George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.

Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.

John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator

Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.

James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.

Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.

Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.

Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison

Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.

John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison

Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.

Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.

Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.

Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.

Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.

Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.

Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.

Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.

Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison.

Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.

David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.

Gary Siplin - Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy.

Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.

Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.

Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.

Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.

James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.

John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.

Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.

David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.

John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine

Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.

Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.

Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute

Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.

Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.

David Lee Walters - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1991 to 1995. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation.

James Guy Tucker, Jr. - Democrat - Governor of Arkansas from 1992 to 1996. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation.

Walter Rayford Tucker - Democrat - Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.

William McCuen - Democrat - Secretary of State of Arkansas from 1985 to 1995. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison.

Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.

Carroll Hubbard, Jr. - Democrat - Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to three years in prison.

Joseph Kolter - Democrat - member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty.

Webster Hubbell - Democrat - Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges - sentenced to 21 months in prison.

Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.

Carl Christopher Perkins - Democrat - Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison.

Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.

Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.

Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.

Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use

Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.

Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.

Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.

Daniel Flood - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation.

Otto Kerner, Jr - Democrat - Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000.

George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.

Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury

Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fundraiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses.

Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.

Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion.

Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.

Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2007, 01:57:48 PM »

This ought to be amusing, comparing who's worse the Dems or the Repubs.

Good luck with all that.  Grin

BTW, this whole thread is a transparent attempt to deflect attention away from recent Conservative scandals.

Both parties are littered with repugnant human beings.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2007, 05:25:42 PM »

If any of these public figures had scruples they would keep their pants up and avoid breaking the law while they are holding a position of public trust.  None of those guys "quickly admitted" guilt.  That's absurd.  They "admitted" only after they were caught.  Even Bill Clinton denied until they found the semen stained dress.  All of those guys have the same m.o. (deny until there is conclusive proof they actually did it).   

I'm particularly put off by Newsome.  Sleeping with your campaign manager's wife is about as low as you can get IMO.  Amazing how these brazen losers refuse to resign after getting caught with their pants down.     


Newsome never denied the affair publicly and he didn't break any law

No doubt it sucks to bag your friends wife but he didn't break any laws and he didn't make any public denial (though he did try to keep in a private matter by not commenting which is probably something that all parties preferred)

Funny you're MOST offended by the one sex scandal that doesn't involve closeted gay men, children or any broken laws



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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2007, 06:12:24 PM »

except when it comes to pedophiles, then it's a bit lopsided Wink Well there's also a big problem if you're comparing the parties over the last 8 years.  Scandals on the republican side are amassing at an alarming rate.  And it's not for lack of keeping an eye on dems, I'm sure they're watched by republicans pretty close for the smallest infraction.  Are both sides made up of a bunch of repugnant human beings, well I can't say you're wrong there.  It's just clear to me that the most extreme of the repugnant clowns seem to gather under the Republican Banner.

I don't really care about a politician's extra-marital affairs as long as he doesn't run his/her campaign on typical Conservative values. Anyone that has been around powerful, wealthy or famous men knows that sex outside of marriage is rampant and in many cases accepted by the spouse.

The difference to me between the Dems and Repubs in regards to sex is that often times Conservatives run their political careers on family first and anti-homosexual agendas, Dems don't. Then those same Pro-family and anti-homosexual Conservatives go out and have extra-marital affairs, sometimes with men in public restrooms.

At least IMO those people are the worst kind of hypocrites. 

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 02:22:00 PM »

Their list of political misdeeds are lengthy..but we have Iraq and 'gasp" a politician looking for free blowjobs...from guys Roll Eyes...next scandal. I think its the Dems turn...maybe one will turn out to be a "furry" caught buggering a sheep or something.

That guy wasn't looking to pay to get a BJ, ...he was looking to pay to give one  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2007, 02:28:38 PM »

That guy wasn't looking to pay to get a BJ, ...he was looking to pay to give one  Grin

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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2007, 02:33:13 PM »

I will say this on behalf of the Clintons, ...I knew a guy who donated money to one of their campaigns. I think it might have been Hilary's initial bid for Senate...about $200 G's.  My understanding is Hilary sent the money back... wouldn't take it. I contacted a mutual friend, we had in common, and told her "did you hear so & so just tried to donate $2 hundred thousand to hilary's campaign... and she refused to accept it?" We had the longest mutual belly laugh over that one. I mean how sleazy do you have to be that a politician refuses your money? {LOL} It was a good thing too. Later I read in the Hollywood Reporter he was indicted for SEC fraud in connection with an entertainment company he took public. I won't say the name 'cause it's one you've all heard about. But the CEO of that one managed to escape without any charges against him. A while later, they had arrested him in South America and extradited him back to the US.
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2007, 11:52:52 AM »

Clinton to Return Money Linked to Fund-Raiser  

By PATRICK HEALY
Published: September 11, 2007
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign announced last night that it would return about $850,000 to about 260 donors who had been recruited or tapped by Norman Hsu, the disgraced Clinton campaign fund-raiser who recently fled arrest and is now under investigation for his fund-raising practices.

Candidate Topic PagesMore Politics NewsThe Clinton campaign also disclosed last night that it would begin running criminal background checks on its bundlers — the dozens of individuals who raise hundreds of thousands of dollars from donors on behalf of a candidate, as Mr. Hsu had done for Mrs. Clinton. A Clinton adviser said that “vigorous additional vetting” of the bundlers, including the criminal checks, would begin this week, and that the campaign was hiring people for that purpose.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/us/politics/11hsu.html?ex=1347163200&en=7162f9c67b858093&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2008, 11:14:53 AM »

Report: Hillary Clinton Big Money Donor Wanted for Grand Theft
Wednesday, August 29, 2007

U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton
A Democratic fundraiser who has raised $1 million for presidential candidate Hillary Clinton says he has done nothing wrong and has asked no favors in return, but Norman Hsu didn't mention that he's a wanted man.

A California prosecutor says Hsu pleaded no contest to grand theft, was sentenced to three years in prison and then disappeared, The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295031,00.html

What is going on with these Democrats?  Fieger indicted for illegal campaign contributions to Edwards.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=164964.0

Married L.A. mayor sleeping with a news reporter who covers him.   http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=157718.0

S.F. mayor sleeping with his campaign manager's wife.   http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=123851.0

Married New Jersey mayor having homosexual affair.   http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/12/mcgreevey.nj/

Member of Congress accepting bribes.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=152739.0

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2008, 11:15:58 AM »

The Clinton campaign also disclosed last night that it would begin running criminal background checks on its bundlers — the dozens of individuals who raise hundreds of thousands of dollars from donors on behalf of a candidate

that's a good idea.  every campaign should do this.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2008, 11:29:11 PM »

I will say this on behalf of the Clintons, ...I knew a guy who donated money to one of their campaigns. I think it might have been Hilary's initial bid for Senate...about $200 G's.  My understanding is Hilary sent the money back... wouldn't take it. I contacted a mutual friend, we had in common, and told her "did you hear so & so just tried to donate $2 hundred thousand to hilary's campaign... and she refused to accept it?" We had the longest mutual belly laugh over that one. I mean how sleazy do you have to be that a politician refuses your money? {LOL} It was a good thing too. Later I read in the Hollywood Reporter he was indicted for SEC fraud in connection with an entertainment company he took public. I won't say the name 'cause it's one you've all heard about. But the CEO of that one managed to escape without any charges against him. A while later, they had arrested him in South America and extradited him back to the US.

Update - Turns out I, along with many members of the public were misinformed by the Clintons.
It appears she DID keep his money afterall, ...despite issuing a public statement saying she wouldn't.
There are a few more details to this story that seemed to tick this person off, ...and when he went public,
...that was when he ended up in a South American jail. His extradition some speculate may have saved his life.
He's still pissed off, ...and he's not going away. He has vowed to be a thorn in her side and he has been ever since.

According to my understanding, his lawsuit against the Clintons has been cleared and will go to trial in the fall.
It will require both Bill & Hilary to testify, ...and possibly even Chelsea. Hillary's lawyers argued against it, ...but no go. She's going to have to stand trial. I suspect things will get very interesting for Mrs. Clinton around November.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 03:49:15 PM »

Bump for John Edwards. 
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2008, 05:10:46 PM »

Bump for John Edwards. 


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