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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #75 on: September 11, 2007, 11:16:35 AM »

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #76 on: September 11, 2007, 11:21:46 AM »
I don't claim to know any answers.

All I can claim is that I've looked at many of the films and statements and releases from that day, and I am positive the 911 commission did a poor job investigating it.

To boot, 4 of the 10 9/11 COmmissioners have themselves come fwd and called for a second investigation.

All you can do is research it and learn from it.  You'll see that the "crazy" folks are actually the ones doing the research - while our own leaders chose not to look into it too much - despite the fact there was a money trail which included some of our allies.  ALl you can do is not fall for the next one.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #77 on: September 11, 2007, 11:28:20 AM »
I don't claim to know any answers.

All I can claim is that I've looked at many of the films and statements and releases from that day, and I am positive the 911 commission did a poor job investigating it.

To boot, 4 of the 10 9/11 COmmissioners have themselves come fwd and called for a second investigation.

All you can do is research it and learn from it.  You'll see that the "crazy" folks are actually the ones doing the research - while our own leaders chose not to look into it too much - despite the fact there was a money trail which included some of our allies.  ALl you can do is not fall for the next one.
Have you so aggressively investigated the 93 bombing and if so, I assume your findings are similar.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #78 on: September 11, 2007, 11:37:29 AM »
Have you so aggressively investigated the 93 bombing and if so, I assume your findings are similar.

No I have not.  I assume you're trying to paint me as a mistrusting guy who believes everything is a conspiracy.  I am not.

I know that 2 planes didn't bring down 7 buildings in NYC.  I know because many FDNY, NYPD, EMT, and military folks have come fwd with detailed info on bomb blasts all over the plaza that day, particularly in WTC7. 

You should research it.  We're not going to solve anything of course.  But you'll see that many people have come fwd and said that WTC had a 20 second countdown to demolition.  Of course, the 911 commission never mentions WTC7.  Do you consider that odd?

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #79 on: September 11, 2007, 11:39:29 AM »
Have you so aggressively investigated the 93 bombing and if so, I assume your findings are similar.

why would you assume his findings would be similar?

was the U.S. government's response similar in '93?  

in 1993, did the U.S. react by invading a sovereign country that had no connection to the WTC bombing and that posed no immediate threat to the United States?

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #80 on: September 11, 2007, 11:41:44 AM »
It's a game of chess with one hand in control of both sides of the board.

Credit and fiat money run this world boys, not oil.

Oil, War, etc.  Just different techniques as means to the same end - More Debt to pay interest on.


so what you're saying is...the puppeteers (rothschild et al) are controlling the whole show?
from the visions of the war we see on our screens....to the debt we all pay back, in interest on the loans to fight those wars....


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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2007, 11:50:09 AM »
why would you assume his findings would be similar?

was the U.S. government's response similar in '93?  

in 1993, did the U.S. react by invading a sovereign country that had no connection to the WTC bombing and that posed no immediate threat to the United States?
The point is......the same people made the attempt in 93. If you agree with the conspiracy of 01, you can't leave out 93.  How does anyone know what the reaction of that administration would have been if the buildings successfully fell.  I, like most feel we should have focused on Afghanistan and not entered Iraq so that wasn't my point

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2007, 11:57:19 AM »

Many historians contend that Roosevent knew about Pearl Harbor, 24 hours in advance.  Americans were STRONGLY against entering WWII, but FDR knew that if hitler WON over there, he'd assimilate the army and resources of ENgland, Rus and Africa, and suddenly, we'd have them on both shores, invading America.  FDR had to kill that dog (hitler) whlie hitler had his hands full fighting UK and RUS.

What if 3000 folks were allowed to die in 1941, so that in 2007, we wouldn't be speaking German?  WOuld ANYONE go back and change thigns today?

Oh and don't forget the huge NSDAP party in the US just before the war, they had some serious problem with them and the problem got worse in the US German/Japanese and Italian "holding" camps since the "right" people had all the time to get the Germans Nazified...
Just imagine if Hitler would have won the war, millions of American citizens would have questioned the US democracy.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2007, 12:00:03 PM »
The point is......the same people made the attempt in 93. If you agree with the conspiracy of 01, you can't leave out 93.  How does anyone know what the reaction of that administration would have been if the buildings successfully fell.  I, like most feel we should have focused on Afghanistan and not entered Iraq so that wasn't my point

93 has question marks.  An FBI informat was tape-recorded giving the bombers instructions.  You can listen to the tapes online.  Why the FBI chose to not stop the men is beyond me.  NY Times made a big deal out of why the FBI didn't act when they were paying the man to infiltrate, and he helped plan it.

If the 93 bombers had parked the bomb against the pillar as the FBI snitch was recorded as instructing, it's likely that one tower could have fallen into another. As it was, he detonated it near no support column and no huge structural damage was done.

Was 1993 a 'let it happen so we can invade?"  I have no clue.

I do like the fact that it *seems* youre at least allowing for the possibility a nation would allow itself to be attacked.  We've seen it happen any times in other countries - many just deny *our* leaders would do it.  Who knows.  If they're right, then one has to ask why Bush fought a 911 investigation for 441 days, then crippled it when it did happen.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2007, 12:04:38 PM »
i don't think so, it took balls to do what they did.
All the more reason why America should turn that useless part of the world into a parking lot.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2007, 12:10:10 PM »
93 has question marks.  An FBI informat was tape-recorded giving the bombers instructions.  You can listen to the tapes online.  Why the FBI chose to not stop the men is beyond me.  NY Times made a big deal out of why the FBI didn't act when they were paying the man to infiltrate, and he helped plan it.

If the 93 bombers had parked the bomb against the pillar as the FBI snitch was recorded as instructing, it's likely that one tower could have fallen into another. As it was, he detonated it near no support column and no huge structural damage was done.

Was 1993 a 'let it happen so we can invade?"  I have no clue.

I do like the fact that it *seems* youre at least allowing for the possibility a nation would allow itself to be attacked.  We've seen it happen any times in other countries - many just deny *our* leaders would do it.  Who knows.  If they're right, then one has to ask why Bush fought a 911 investigation for 441 days, then crippled it when it did happen.
I don't for a second believe the conspiracies, you couldn't keep it a secret with so many needed to pull it off.  I've run accross people who claim Bush knew ahead of time but when asked about 93 they don't think so.  Hypocritical Bush bashing whatever your opinion of Bush is. I respect your opinion, but don't agree. 

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2007, 12:11:57 PM »
All the more reason why America should turn that useless part of the world into a parking lot.
We fight wars with so many rules and guidelines but noone else does.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2007, 12:15:08 PM »
Yes, the central bankers run the show.

Nearly every major nation is now on a fiat money supply, meaning it can be expanded indefinately and it is backed by nothing.

Money is THE most important concept.  Men either exchange with money, or they exchange with guns.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws."
- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild


“There is no more direct way to capture control of a nation than through its credit system.”
- Mr. Phillip A. Benson, President of the American Bankers’ Association, June 8 1939


“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks ... will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
- Thomas Jefferson, hundreds of years before the Federal Reserve Act of 1913


“We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the money vultures who control it. A superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure.”
- Louis McFadden, D-PA



Find the MONEY MASTERS video, you can watch it for free on google video.

so what you're saying is...the puppeteers (rothschild et al) are controlling the whole show?
from the visions of the war we see on our screens....to the debt we all pay back, in interest on the loans to fight those wars....


you know....the jigsaw pieces are slipping into place a bit easier for me now....

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2007, 12:17:20 PM »
I don't for a second believe the conspiracies, you couldn't keep it a secret with so many needed to pull it off.  I've run accross people who claim Bush knew ahead of time but when asked about 93 they don't think so.  Hypocritical Bush bashing whatever your opinion of Bush is. I respect your opinion, but don't agree. 

Okay, fair enouhg.  however:

1) "Take all this $, or a bullet" is pretty convincing way to keep people quiet if need be.
2) It's very possible that clinton knew about the WTC93 attack and his hands were tied - remember ON 9/11, it's very possible - and likely - that Bush had no clue what was going on.

Condi Rice went on Tony Snow (Fox News Sunday) on Sept 17th, 2001, and admitted that Ari Fleischer was correct when he mantioned that air force 1 was in danger that day.  Ari slipped that someone using current coded secret service terminology, complete with the sept 11 password (angel), threatened his plane if he returned to washington as planned.  Air support to protect Bush wasn't available.  WASN'T AVAILABLE.  Do ya buy that?

Bush was forced to fly to louisiana then Omaha until the threat could be found, and it never was.  Condi and Ari admitted this.  So there was a 20th person making a threat with inside white house knowledge on 9/11.  COndi and Ari confirmed this.

You still don't believe in conspiracies?  Google it, you can prob watch the Condi clip on youtube.  She admits a credible inside threat that day.  no way those 19 arabs, already long dead, made that call.  

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2007, 12:20:36 PM »
We as citizens, along with our government are SLAVES to the money system.  It was estimated years ago that the Rothchilds held one half of the worlds wealth, just think about how much money that is.  What would it be like to play with the world like it was your own personal board game?

That's Rothschilds 'BTW' - and it was around 75% of the worlds wealth by the mid 1950's.............thanks to ‘Mayer Amshcel Rothschild’ (1744-1812) who wasnt a zionist (zionsim founded 1890) he was a hegemonist first and foremost, a jewish supremacist

What ethnic group dominates the Russian mafia ??.

What ethnic group dominates the pornography industry ??.

What ethnic group is more responsible than any other for the ongoing sex slave trade ??.

What specific ethnic/religious group more so than any other has consistently sought to ensnare and then exploit native populations under the yolk of usury ??.

What ethnic/religious group dominates international finance ??.

What ethnic group dominates the media in Europe and North America ??.

What ethnic group dominates Hollywood ??.

Members of what ethnic group intentionally attacked an American ship in 1967 named the USS Liberty, in what amounted to an act of war against the United States of America and then used their co-ethnics in the United States to cover that fact up ??.

Members of what ethnic group sought to bomb American assets in Cairo Egypt in the 1950s and blame it on the Arabs in an attempt to frame them and convince Americans to financially and militarily support the Zionist state ??.

What group more than any other has sought to undermine Christian values and western civilization in an effort to divide and conquer ??.

What ethnic group was overly represented in the junk bond scandals of the 1980s ??.

Members of what ethnic group were deeply involved in the Enron scandal but were able to utilize the Jewish medias influence and access to the American mind in such a way as to nearly eliminate their role ??.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2007, 12:23:58 PM »
That's Rothschilds 'BTW' - and it was around 75% of the worlds wealth by the mid 1950's.............thanks to ‘Mayer Amshcel Rothschild’ (1744-1812) who wasnt a zionist (zionsim founded 1890) he was a hegemonist first and foremost, a jewish supremacist

What ethnic group dominates the Russian mafia ??.

What ethnic group dominates the pornography industry ??.

What ethnic group is more responsible than any other for the ongoing sex slave trade ??.

What specific ethnic/religious group more so than any other has consistently sought to ensnare and then exploit native populations under the yolk of usury ??.

What ethnic/religious group dominates international finance ??.

What ethnic group dominates the media in Europe and North America ??.

What ethnic group dominates Hollywood ??.

Members of what ethnic group intentionally attacked an American ship in 1967 named the USS Liberty, in what amounted to an act of war against the United States of America and then used their co-ethnics in the United States to cover that fact up ??.

Members of what ethnic group sought to bomb American assets in Cairo Egypt in the 1950s and blame it on the Arabs in an attempt to frame them and convince Americans to financially and militarily support the Zionist state ??.

What group more than any other has sought to undermine Christian values and western civilization in an effort to divide and conquer ??.

What ethnic group was overly represented in the junk bond scandals of the 1980s ??.

Members of what ethnic group were deeply involved in the Enron scandal but were able to utilize the Jewish medias influence and access to the American mind in such a way as to nearly eliminate their role ??.

PT -- SAIDA.

Hi Mel Gibson.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #91 on: September 11, 2007, 12:26:52 PM »
Hi Mel Gibson.
Ha! You beat me to it.     

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #92 on: September 11, 2007, 12:29:54 PM »
Hi Mel Gibson.

Glad you can see how serious this issue is funny boy.........let's see how your sense of humour bears up when you are in camp FEMA - OMG -- LMFAO !!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha........ ..........

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #93 on: September 11, 2007, 12:31:43 PM »
That's Rothschilds 'BTW' - and it was around 75% of the worlds wealth by the mid 1950's.............thanks to ‘Mayer Amshcel Rothschild’ (1744-1812) who wasnt a zionist (zionsim founded 1890) he was a hegemonist first and foremost, a jewish supremacist

What ethnic group dominates the Russian mafia ??.

What ethnic group dominates the pornography industry ??.

What ethnic group is more responsible than any other for the ongoing sex slave trade ??.

What specific ethnic/religious group more so than any other has consistently sought to ensnare and then exploit native populations under the yolk of usury ??.

What ethnic/religious group dominates international finance ??.

What ethnic group dominates the media in Europe and North America ??.

What ethnic group dominates Hollywood ??.

Members of what ethnic group intentionally attacked an American ship in 1967 named the USS Liberty, in what amounted to an act of war against the United States of America and then used their co-ethnics in the United States to cover that fact up ??.

Members of what ethnic group sought to bomb American assets in Cairo Egypt in the 1950s and blame it on the Arabs in an attempt to frame them and convince Americans to financially and militarily support the Zionist state ??.

What group more than any other has sought to undermine Christian values and western civilization in an effort to divide and conquer ??.

What ethnic group was overly represented in the junk bond scandals of the 1980s ??.

Members of what ethnic group were deeply involved in the Enron scandal but were able to utilize the Jewish medias influence and access to the American mind in such a way as to nearly eliminate their role ??.

PT -- SAIDA.





Ummmmm...the Canadians?

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2007, 12:33:43 PM »
Ummmmm...the Canadians?

Funny !! haha, keep laughing.............WHILE YOU CAN !!.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #95 on: September 11, 2007, 12:39:00 PM »
Funny !! haha, keep laughing.............WHILE YOU CAN !!.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2007, 12:40:50 PM »
Funny !! haha, keep laughing.............WHILE YOU CAN !!.

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You just stay away from those London subways.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2007, 12:43:36 PM »
You just stay away from those London subways.

Keep rolling those eyes !!.

Part - II.

What are all the internment camps being built for all across the N.American continent for ?? ( have been since the early 90’s ).

They all remain empty thus far !!, so don’t tell me it’s for relief of the over crowding in the state pens ( like they give a fuck about the Aryan brotherhood / Nazi low-riders / S.Mexicans + N.Mexicans / Crips / Bloods ) - ( although in the pen the Blacks all become one gang, whether Blue or red on the out side ).

So, in your opinion what have these tax $’s been used for ??.
These camps await what exactly ??.
I have seen video footage of said camps in hundreds of locations, why are they being built ??.

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #98 on: September 11, 2007, 12:45:24 PM »
Hahahah someone got 240 goin !

Watch out... he turned me to the dark side  >:(

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Re: It's 911 today
« Reply #99 on: September 11, 2007, 12:48:00 PM »
Hahahah someone got 240 goin !

LOL!

I tell ya, I used to follow this stuff so close.  I haven't looked at it in months.  Too stressful.  I can barely watch hardball without getting a headache.  I much prefer the NFL these days.  But yes, Top Dog got me going today.  I was retired from politics for 8 months.  Can't it stay that way?   ;D