The Adonis Principle is full of shit

[shiftedShapes]

The problem with your post here is that you never quantify the amount of protein needed, no precision. All you say is that protein = needed.

Unless you quantify exactly how much protein you think is needed, your entire post = worthless.

the more the merrier, Milos sells this shit by the bucket

[The Master]

the more the merrier, Milos sells this shit by the bucket

Unfortunately, the "the more the merrier" school of thought can actually fit into El M.'s reasoning.

That = very sad, and another proof that "common sense" = often very stupid.

[shiftedShapes]

proof that "common sense" = often very stupid.

well most people have stupidity in common

[The Master]

well most people have stupidity in common

Not this guy:

[shiftedShapes]

Not this guy:

There's nothing common about GB

[The Master]

There's nothing common about GB

 

[SteelePegasus]

how many grams of protein does TA recommend?

E

as much as your boyfriend can ejaculate into your mouth

[Bast000]

[JOHN MATRIX]

why would I have to demonstrate it with my physique.  I think Zane showed pretty clearly that low calories produce an awesome physique.  Serge Nubret proved that one meal a day works fine.  You know this Jeff, so stop responding to me for everyone else's benefit when you and I both know you're full of shit.  What's the point of winning an argument if you know that you had to cheat to do it, that can't be very satisfying if you have self-respect.

yes but the fact that those guys were on Vitamin S changes everything.

[JOHN MATRIX]

haha i laugh that there are actually people who follow 'adonis' and his 'principles', hahaha proof that there are people who will follow anyone.

[EL Mariachi]

The problem with your post here is that you never quantify the amount of protein needed, no precision. All you say is that protein = needed.

Unless you quantify exactly how much protein you think is needed, your entire post = worthless.

I never count calories or grams of protein. Now i just make sure i eat protein often 6 out of 8 small meals a day should contain protein. you should eat 1,5 g of protein per 1 pound of bodyweight.

[The Master]

I never count calories or grams of protein. Now i just make sure i eat protein ofren 6 out of 8 small meals a day should contain protein. you should eat 1,5 g of protein per 1 pound of bodyweight.

If you don't count calories, you = an idiot.

1,5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight = insane.

Milos sold you your brain on a foodplate.

[EL Mariachi]

1 gram of protein per 1 pound of bodyweight is recommended for general people who dont even workout.

[shiftedShapes]

yes but the fact that those guys were on Vitamin S changes everything.

this was taken last year I was probably eating 1800 cals per day.  I don't think I lost any muscle

[The Master]

1 gram of protein per 1 pound of bodyweight is recommended for general people who dont even workout.

Wrong. There has never been a recommendation like that.

When calories = the diet - variable that has the biggest impact on your training, why do you not count them? Protein = meaningless if you do not have a long term plan for your calories.

[EL Mariachi]

Wrong. There has never been a recommendation like that.

When calories = the diet - variable that has the biggest impact on your training, why do you not count them? Protein = meaningless if you do not have a long term plan for your calories.

Nobody is talking about training here, thats not the issue.

[The Master]

Nobody is talking about training here, thats not the issue.

Wrong.

We = discussing diet in conjunction with bodybuillding, which includes the deliberate manipulation of ones body composition via training, as well as a desire to get stronger (for most BBs).

[EL Mariachi]

Wrong. There has never been a recommendation like that.

Protein = meaningless if you do not have a long term plan for your calories.

Dumbest post about nutritiens i read so far,, on my 5 year getbig journey.

[EL Mariachi]

Wrong.

We = discussing diet in conjunction with bodybuillding, which includes the deliberate manipulation of ones body composition via training, as well as a desire to get stronger (for most BBs).

You are making this harder than it is, i just eat some bread before training to have some energy, and drink orange-juice during training. There is no intelectual words needed to discuss that on getbig to sound clever.

[SteelePegasus]

Dumbest post about nutritiens i read so far,, on my 5 year getbig journey.

Name:  EL Mariachi
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Date Registered:  April 18, 2005, 05:40:14 PM
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[The Master]

Dumbest post about nutritiens i read so far,, on my 5 year getbig journey.

Do you believe that the daily grams of protein you eat has a bigger impact on your body composition and training progress than the long term control over calories? 

[EL Mariachi]

Name:  EL Mariachi
Posts:  2903 (2.993 per day)
Position:  Getbig IV
Date Registered:  April 18, 2005, 05:40:14 PM
Last Active:  Today at 02:58:03 PM

You must be a noob, a lot of folks here had to open a new account , cause for some reason the old account stops working.

[EL Mariachi]

Do you believe that the daily grams of protein you eat has a bigger impact on your body composition and training progress than the long term control over calories? 

No matter how good your training is, if you dont feed the body right , its useless. So yes protein is more important.

[the Pure Majestic]

this was taken last year I was probably eating 1800 cals per day.  I don't think I lost any muscle

If you had any to begin with, then surely you lost it all.  I see no appreciable muscle in that photo.


It was admitted in a thread that the "principles" were all a joke.  How it was missed by so many is beyond me.  Perhaps it was because it was posted on a low traffic forum.  
Regardless, all one has to do is look through Adonis' posts to see the type of diet he actually follows.  

The joke isn't that bodybuilders are dumb and think they need to eat shitty tasting food to get lean.  The joke has always been that people are so urged to follow something that they'll latch on to even the most absurd idea.  
Case in point: the "principles."

[natural al]

mariachi...

waht do you look like again?  if I recall you're neither big nor are you cut yet you run your mouth like you're charles glass meets chris aceto....

either your a gimmick trying to stir up trouble or your an idiot...well, you could be both.

fighting with people doesn't make you right....