Magoo: The Quest for a 405 bench

[slaveboy1980]

dont try to take your body to 405. take 405 to your body!

[tonymctones]

Holy gezzz bro 335 close grip thats retarded good shit good job on the pull ups too man. Tell me the truth you got a video of you doing 25+ reps with 225 and your just waiting until the 1st to post it arent you? Im gonna be pissed if I post a video and 10 mins later you post one beating me, that is if I even get close to beating yours.

[MisterMagoo]

Holy gezzz bro 335 close grip thats retarded good shit good job on the pull ups too man. Tell me the truth you got a video of you doing 25+ reps with 225 and your just waiting until the 1st to post it arent you? Im gonna be pissed if I post a video and 10 mins later you post one beating me, that is if I even get close to beating yours.

hahaah! i didn't get my initial 25 on tape, but tuesday or wednesday we'll see what i do. if it's 25 or so, i'll definitely hold off posting it until i need to. 

[MisterMagoo]

today went really, really badly.

highlights:

pulls: 425x4 paused on the floor. yeah, THAT bad.

pause squats: 365x2 ass on the floor smokeshow. this was pretty slick actually.

DB shrugs: 145x50 with straps.

[slaveboy1980]

today went really, really badly.

highlights:

pulls: 425x4 paused on the floor. yeah, THAT bad.

pause squats: 365x2 ass on the floor smokeshow. this was pretty slick actually.

DB shrugs: 145x50 with straps.

maybe you need to deload for a week or two?

[MisterMagoo]

maybe you need to deload for a week or two?

well i'm thinking it's a lack of sleep over the past two days. new dog, whining all night in his crate, i got about three hours of sleep saturday night and maybe four last night. give me a total recharge and i should be okay.

that said, it HAS been a long time since i deloaded. might try that next week. gotta have one good bench workout for the PL board contest! 

[MisterMagoo]

bad bad bad. no sleep = bad

tuesday - benching

flat bench:
135x5
225x5
275x3
327.5x1 - training partner mishap. 3 45's on the righ, 3 45's with a 10 and a 2.5 on the left. fucked up my left side from here on out
340x1
365x0 - just wasn't happening today.
225x21.99999999 - DAMN i was close to 22.

feet-up bench:
225x5
275x2

decline:
225x8
275x8
295x5

chins:
6x8-13 variously

plate side raises:
pissng around with a pair of 25 plates.

weight: 226.

[thewickedtruth]

bad bad bad. no sleep = bad

tuesday - benching

flat bench:
135x5
225x5
275x3
327.5x1 - training partner mishap. 3 45's on the righ, 3 45's with a 10 and a 2.5 on the left. fucked up my left side from here on out
340x1
365x0 - just wasn't happening today.
225x21.99999999 - DAMN i was close to 22.

feet-up bench:
225x5
275x2

decline:
225x8
275x8
295x5

chins:
6x8-13 variously

plate side raises:
pissng around with a pair of 25 plates.

weight: 226.

BEAST!!!  HAH WAY TO DO WORK BRO!

[slaveboy1980]

well i'm thinking it's a lack of sleep over the past two days. new dog, whining all night in his crate, i got about three hours of sleep saturday night and maybe four last night. give me a total recharge and i should be okay.

that said, it HAS been a long time since i deloaded. might try that next week. gotta have one good bench workout for the PL board contest! 

ok i understand, lack of sleep will indeed fuck up workouts.

[slaveboy1980]

bad bad bad. no sleep = bad

tuesday - benching

flat bench:
135x5
225x5
275x3
327.5x1 - training partner mishap. 3 45's on the righ, 3 45's with a 10 and a 2.5 on the left. fucked up my left side from here on out
340x1
365x0 - just wasn't happening today.
225x21.99999999 - DAMN i was close to 22.

feet-up bench:
225x5
275x2

decline:
225x8
275x8
295x5

chins:
6x8-13 variously

plate side raises:
pissng around with a pair of 25 plates.

weight: 226.

lemme know if im annoying the shit out of you. but id suggest doing 3x5 on the bench for a while (same weight on all the sets).

(then slowly move down: 4,3,2,1)

another concept you could try is ladders.

[ngm21084]

bad bad bad. no sleep = bad

tuesday - benching

flat bench:
135x5
225x5
275x3
327.5x1 - training partner mishap. 3 45's on the righ, 3 45's with a 10 and a 2.5 on the left. fucked up my left side from here on out
340x1
365x0 - just wasn't happening today.
225x21.99999999 - DAMN i was close to 22.

feet-up bench:
225x5
275x2
decline:
225x8
275x8
295x5

chins:
6x8-13 variously

plate side raises:
pissng around with a pair of 25 plates.

weight: 226.

man your putting in some nice work but what is the point of feet up bench?? especially right after doing flat?? just wondering... nice work anyways..

[MisterMagoo]

lemme know if im annoying the shit out of you. but id suggest doing 3x5 on the bench for a while (same weight on all the sets).

(then slowly move down: 4,3,2,1)

another concept you could try is ladders.

for the deload week (or maybe month) i think i'll do 5x5s on everything. start with 275 on the bench, 335 on the squat, and 405 on the pull and go until i get maybe 315, 365, and 455. if that doesn't happen for more than a month or so then i'll just accept wherever i am and go back to the normal.

honestly, i'm CLEARLY not doing any meets any time soon ( ), why not really mix shit up, right?

man your putting in some nice work but what is the point of feet up bench?? especially right after doing flat?? just wondering... nice work anyways..

a little pure-chest work. just to try 'er out. i've always wanted to nail 315 feet up because holy hell that'd look impressive.

[BFP]

for the deload week (or maybe month) i think i'll do 5x5s 3x3on everything. start with 275 on the bench, 335 on the squat, and 405 on the pull and go until i get maybe 315, 365, and 455. if that doesn't happen for more than a month or so then i'll just accept wherever i am and go back to the normal.

honestly, i'm CLEARLY not doing any meets any time soon ( ), why not really mix shit up, right?

a little pure-chest work. just to try 'er out. i've always wanted to nail 315 feet up because holy hell that'd look impressive.

I think you will find a better deload by going to 3x3 as opposed to 5x5.  If youre onbly going to go for a week, why not just stay out of the gym?  Might be better off in the end.

Jason

[MisterMagoo]

I think you will find a better deload by going to 3x3 as opposed to 5x5.  If youre onbly going to go for a week, why not just stay out of the gym?  Might be better off in the end.

Jason

hey let me ask you about that.

i've heard differing theories on deload. some say go to the gym but go ultra-light. like do 50% of your normal weights for sets of 15. i did that once, lowballing a bit, but i'm not sure how well that actually worked. others say stay out entirely. if i do that, i'm likely to do some extra cardio just because i can't keep myself from exercising entirely.

which do you believe?

[benz]

hey let me ask you about that.

i've heard differing theories on deload. some say go to the gym but go ultra-light. like do 50% of your normal weights for sets of 15. i did that once, lowballing a bit, but i'm not sure how well that actually worked. others say stay out entirely. if i do that, i'm likely to do some extra cardio just because i can't keep myself from exercising entirely.

which do you believe?

Im doing that right now, and the last set with 235 seems to be easier than before. What did you do in order to increase your bench weight+reps so much?

[MisterMagoo]

Im doing that right now, and the last set with 235 seems to be easier than before. What did you do in order to increase your bench weight+reps so much?

i'm honestly not entirely sure. just retarded determination i suppose, and me starting to "understand" the lift. my squat is getting better despite low maxing lately thanks to my hurt back. but no matter what i do, the deadlift eludes me in terms of feeling comfortable doing it. this week my attempt to replicate last week's forms did not work at ALL. no matter what, i grip and rip largely because no matter where i stand or how i set up, i feel like my body is all wrong.

[chaos]

hey let me ask you about that.

i've heard differing theories on deload. some say go to the gym but go ultra-light. like do 50% of your normal weights for sets of 15. i did that once, lowballing a bit, but i'm not sure how well that actually worked. others say stay out entirely. if i do that, i'm likely to do some extra cardio just because i can't keep myself from exercising entirely.

which do you believe?

I know you didn't ask me, but I prefer to stay out of the gym, at the very most, I'll go in and do cardio.

[BFP]

hey let me ask you about that.

i've heard differing theories on deload. some say go to the gym but go ultra-light. like do 50% of your normal weights for sets of 15. i did that once, lowballing a bit, but i'm not sure how well that actually worked. others say stay out entirely. if i do that, i'm likely to do some extra cardio just because i can't keep myself from exercising entirely.

which do you believe?

Honestly, if you ask 10 guys, you will probably get 10 different opinions.  As for me, I stay out of the gym, because I cannot make myself go in there and just coast lifting.  If I dont lift hard, I become unmotivated in many facets of life, and this is the exact opposite of what you want from a deload.  If you want to do something physical, do yardwork.  Take that new dog for a long walk.  Chase your kids (or nieces and nephews) all over gods creation.  Thats what I do when I deload, and I go back a week later ready to get after it and GFH.  I do have one exception.  If you are injured ( not just aches and pains, but injured) I think that light high rep work can be very beneficial in the recovery process and should be done throughout your deload. 

Jason

[MisterMagoo]

stay home and do cardio it is. who knows, maybe i'll trim a few pounds that week and get a little stronger in the process! 215 is still my "maybe" goal for the summer.

[Stubborn]

When I deload I just do light cardio mostly. I will do labor intensive activities around the house too (laying tile, landscaping a bit, or making new torturous implements!). Perhaps just get some new ink or suspend yourself from hooks and pulleys

[slaveboy1980]

for the deload week (or maybe month) i think i'll do 5x5s on everything. start with 275 on the bench, 335 on the squat, and 405 on the pull and go until i get maybe 315, 365, and 455. if that doesn't happen for more than a month or so then i'll just accept wherever i am and go back to the normal.

honestly, i'm CLEARLY not doing any meets any time soon ( ), why not really mix shit up, right?

a little pure-chest work. just to try 'er out. i've always wanted to nail 315 feet up because holy hell that'd look impressive.

actually wasnt suggesting 3x5 for the deload. just as a way to mix it up and maybe get in some volume with heavy poundages. same applies to 5x5.

for deload id suggest cutting volume but still still keeping the weights pretty heavy. (there are lots of ways to set it up...its far from an exact science).



edit: hadnt read all the replies regarding deloading. jason is right,there are many ways to do it.

[Boost]

Hey Magoo were u always a strong bencher? i cant even picture myself putting up 225 let alone 360+
also are u a big eater? strict with a diet?

[thewickedtruth]

actually wasnt suggesting 3x5 for the deload. just as a way to mix it up and maybe get in some volume with heavy poundages. same applies to 5x5.

for deload id suggest cutting volume but still still keeping the weights pretty heavy. (there are lots of ways to set it up...its far from an exact science).



edit: hadnt read all the replies regarding deloading. jason is right,there are many ways to do it.

depending on how you're feeling.. if y ou're just feeling like hammered shit no matter what you do.. a week off is usually the ticket for me. If you're just not feeling up to it or dragging ass.. taking a week or at least a few days of doing bodybuilder type workouts and coming back to it seems to fair well for alot of people.

[slaveboy1980]

depending on how you're feeling.. if y ou're just feeling like hammered shit no matter what you do.. a week off is usually the ticket for me. If you're just not feeling up to it or dragging ass.. taking a week or at least a few days of doing bodybuilder type workouts and coming back to it seems to fair well for alot of people.

yes and no. faster progress can be made if you deload** BEFORE you start feeling really hammered.

**deload in this case= when you dont take a week off ,instead you  still lift but maybe reduce poundages 10-20% and reduce volume.

personally i dont count a complete week of rest as deloading.(thats just me)

id set it up like this: lift heavy 3-6 weeks then lift lighter (deload) 1-2 weeks. after something like 3 such cycles (of heavy and light lifting) take a week off.

i think complete rest weeks can be golden. but in my opinion its better to periodize training in such a way that you dont have to take complete weeks of too often. instead put in enough deloading weeks(=still lift but reduce poundages somewhat).

[MisterMagoo]

THURSDAY - squats

box squats: at parallel or slightly under. i've got great out of the hole power, but i just fall apart on the way up.
135x5
225x5
315x3
365x1 - belt on here
405x1
425x1 - pretty swift rep, just my knees started to feel shaky.

sumo pulls: paused on the floor between
135x5
225x5
315x3
405x3

paused on the pins GM's: DEFINITELY a bit under parallel for the upper body. way deep, solid pause between reps.
135x5
185x5
205x5
225x5
275x4 - shazam. slightly wider stance? awesome.

abs

weight: 224.5?!?

notes: that was the most fun i've had in a while. awesome.