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PBW Radio: Sergio Olvia - Constructive Comments
« on: January 29, 2008, 04:52:28 AM »
I have been listening to every one of your 100 radio broadcasts...and I have enjoyed them all. You started off the 100th with saying that u draw the line of not talking about affairs and wifes and so on concerningthe whole childish milos and nassar story. Bob u said that u draw the line....

then u have one of the greatest bodybuilders off all time on and I guess u dont draw the line anywhere as long as the marrige tragedy is big enough caus u spent a lot of time talking about how his wife shot him.....
now why would you say that u will not talk about wifes having affairs and then go on to talk about a terrible incident like what happend to Oliva. Its bodybuilding talk radio and I think talking about his wife shooting him and fighting cops belongs in the muscle mob program and u should be ashemed to spent olivias time on those topics. u should have tlaked about exercises back in the day ,supplements and old bodybuilding stories!

very dissapointed with the interview, your morals and double standpoint.  this is ment as constructive critisism and i hope u read it as that....  I have recomended the show to many and u have many norwegians ordering from your site and listening to your show because off me. so in my opinion you owe me an answer to this.

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 04:53:46 AM »
This is horrible man.

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 04:57:51 AM »
They focused more on that then on his life as a bodybuilder.

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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 05:01:36 AM »
They focused more on that then on his life as a bodybuilder.

I listened to 15minutes of this crap and it was enough for me to decide to never waste even one more minute on it.

It totally sucks, it seems they have no concept at all and just bubble along what is on their pea sized brains.

Unprofessional as a 7 year old kid selling self made "Coca Cola" on the front lawn.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 05:48:38 AM »
You actually listened to that shit?

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 06:02:36 AM »
We all know that they fucked up the Nasser interview. If you're going to have him on then let him speak his mind and have his say.. They just ended up inhibiting Nasser and rehashing the same old stuff instead of encouraging him to say something new and entertaining.

It was rank bad interviewing.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 06:36:41 AM »
well, i don't really see this as the same.

oliva's wife shot him. it is something very serious that happened to him in the past and he is not currently in a relationship with her.

what nasser is bringing is purely smut and without any class whatsoever. he is thumbing his nose at milos, saying publically, 'i fucked your wife.' with the sole intention of hurting milos and attemtping to disrupt his family (don't forget, milos and milamar are married with children).

this type of thing should never be played out for public knowledge. i mean, what will milos' kids think of all this if/when someone presents this smut to them on the school playground or something?

apart from the pathetic and very desperate attempt at whoring for attention, this event occurred prior to milos and milimar getting married.
 

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 06:48:05 AM »
I cannot wait for Bob to come in here and (as usual) deny everything ::)

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 06:52:48 AM »
Perhaps they should have a show about domestic violence in bodybuilding?  :D
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 06:55:57 AM »
 There are better Sergio Olivia stories out there than some crazy Puerto Rican bitch popped a cap in his Cuban ass! Anyone and everyone who's been with a Rican ho has/had some kind of domestic drama with them. Shit.

 Sergio used to be a cop. A Chicago cop. I know one of his old partners who says he was the dumbest cop the city of Chicago has ever ever seen.

 Once Sergio responded to a car be stolen. On the official report he filled out, which, anyone who knows about a police officers job knows that 90% of their day is doing paperwork.

 So he made his official report from the witnesses he interviewed and turned it in. It contained 2 words on the run report...2 words.

 'car took'.

 For YEARS, in jest it hung up in the 16th district and was a running joke for years.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 07:04:05 AM »
I met Sergio and Arlene in Sydney in 1981. They came to my gym and they came to my home for a party so we spent some time together. After talking to both of them I wondered how long their relationship would last and I told Arlene I doubted it would last very long. They just seemed like chalk and cheese. It was very sad to see how they ended up. I don't know the particulars but I guess their relationship was public knowledge because of Sergio's fame. Arlene was involved in the fitness scene before they were involved. Can you imagine white Arlene bringing big, black Sergio to meet her folk in Georgia! I asked her about that and she eventually said, "They liked him."

Sergio is quite the man and nobody can buy him off. He did his own thing way back then and was literally cheated out of many titles when Arnold challenged him. Conveniently, the IFBB suspended Sergio for several years and this allowed Arnold to win the Olympia ever after while Sergio won just about every other contest around. Sergio was a freak of physique and an amazing individual. Individuals like him are seldom rewarded for their gifts. Lesser, more cunning individuals often succeed when they don't really deserve it. Arnold quickly saw an opportunity in the IFBB where Boyer Coe pointed out the judges were business associates of the Weiders and not bodybuilders or enthusiasts per se. The strategy of Arnold's was to make friends with the judges and in 1980 that paid off handsomely when he won against a close field where any of the top 8 guys could have won.

Those of us who were contemporaries of Sergio hold him in awe. Drugs were around but the guys didn't completely rely on them like they apparently do in the pro ranks today. Larry Scott, Sergio and Arnold had to come up with new training methods to build an even better physique to stay ahead of the opposition. It is a pity that Sergio didn't keep Arthur Jones as a trainer because he was at his very best in the 1972 contest in Germany. Arnold won that year but in Germany would that be a surprise. When you remember that Chris Dickerson was the first black Mr America in 1970 is it any wonder that Arnold won a contest in England in 1970 and again in Germany in 1972. Racism was very evident in those days and a judging panel could be selected to make sure a black champion didn't win. The same thing happened in 1975 in apartheid South Africa where Arnold placed first over Serge Nubret. What a surprise.

Bob Chick always tells me I am out of the loop but he is out of his tree and can't see the forest for the trees. How could any bodybuilding enthusiast not bring out Sergio at his best? Mentioning the Arlene stuff would have stifled anything noble at all from Sergio. What a shame.

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 07:05:20 AM »
I have been listening to every one of your 100 radio broadcasts...and I have enjoyed them all.
You started off the 100th with saying that u draw the line of not talking about affairs and wifes and so on concerningthe whole childish milos and nassar story. Bob u said that u draw the line....
then u have one of the greatest bodybuilders off all time on and I guess u dont draw the line anywhere as long as the marrige tragedy is big enough caus u spent a lot of time talking about how his wife shot him.....
now why would you say that u will not talk about wifes having affairs and then go on to talk about a terrible incident like what happend to Oliva. Its bodybuilding talk radio and I think talking about his wife shooting him and fighting cops belongs in the muscle mob program and u should be ashemed to spent olivias time on those topics. u should have tlaked about exercises back in the day ,supplements and old bodybuilding stories!
very dissapointed with the interview, your morals and double standpoint.
this is ment as constructive critisism and i hope u read it as that....
I have recomended the show to many and u have many norwegians ordering from your site and listening to your show because off me. so in my opinion you owe me an answer to this.
peace

Agreed, to bring such a legend on a 'bodybuilding' program and waste the majority of this legends time on non-bodybuilding issues rather than educational aspects such as training, diet, supplementation and old stories that this legend lived through and made.. well.. congrats on the 100th episode I guess.  :-[

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 07:24:02 AM »
Agreed, to bring such a legend on a 'bodybuilding' program and waste the majority of this legends time on non-bodybuilding issues rather than educational aspects such as training, diet, supplementation and old stories that this legend lived through and made.. well.. congrats on the 100th episode I guess.  :-[

"Training, diet, and supplementation"?  Are you kidding??


1) Most people, unless they're 16 years old, already have that stuff down...  it's not rocket science.

2) Boring!


Bodybuliding needs a lot of "non-bodybuilding related" drama, otherwise all it is is a bunch of oiled-up roid-heads walking around in their underwear.  ::)
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 07:26:19 AM »
I have been listening to every one of your 100 radio broadcasts...and I have enjoyed them all.
You started off the 100th with saying that u draw the line of not talking about affairs and wifes and so on concerningthe whole childish milos and nassar story. Bob u said that u draw the line....
then u have one of the greatest bodybuilders off all time on and I guess u dont draw the line anywhere as long as the marrige tragedy is big enough caus u spent a lot of time talking about how his wife shot him.....
now why would you say that u will not talk about wifes having affairs and then go on to talk about a terrible incident like what happend to Oliva. Its bodybuilding talk radio and I think talking about his wife shooting him and fighting cops belongs in the muscle mob program and u should be ashemed to spent olivias time on those topics. u should have tlaked about exercises back in the day ,supplements and old bodybuilding stories!
very dissapointed with the interview, your morals and double standpoint.
this is ment as constructive critisism and i hope u read it as that....
I have recomended the show to many and u have many norwegians ordering from your site and listening to your show because off me. so in my opinion you owe me an answer to this.
peace


That's a fair question...and one that I'm glad to respond to.  -- Before the show, Sergio was kind enough to send me a copy of his new "Auto-Biography" (co-written by Frank Marchante).  Sergio and his co-author asked that we promote the book during the interview by referencing various "Hot Topics" from the book.  -- When I turned to page 79 of the book, Sergio tells a very powerful story of the time he was shot in the stomach by his former wife.  This was, obviously, a MAJOR event in Sergio's life.  That is why Sergio chose to include it in his book.  -- At the end of the PBW interview, we simply quoted the excerpt from the book (from page 79) where Sergio openly discusses the incident.  (Prior to that portion of the interview, we focused on the Olympia contests of 1967, 68, 69, 70...along with the fallout between Sergio and the federations and his battles with Arnold.  We also covered the story of his escape from communist Cuba and his transition from powerlifting to bodybuilding.  The new book is called "Sergio Oliva - His Life Story".  It reveals far more than we could during a 25 minute radio interview.  Before the interview, Sergio made it very clear that he wanted to openly discuss any and all topics.  -- As we've learned in recent weeks, everyone has a very different opinion of what they want us to cover on the show.  If we had neglected to ask him about this event, you can be sure that people would be asking "Why didn't you ask Sergio about the time...." 

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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 07:30:11 AM »
I listened to 15minutes of this crap and it was enough for me to decide to never waste even one more minute on it.

It totally sucks, it seems they have no concept at all and just bubble along what is on their pea sized brains.

Unprofessional as a 7 year old kid selling self made "Coca Cola" on the front lawn.

Bump for truth.  I listened to it for about 10 minutes once and couldn't stand it.  Incoherent rambling by the hosts, inane questions that you would most likely find in people magazine, guest that answered questions that were not even asked and then no follow up by the hosts, no sense of direction...I could go on.  It was like reading a story written by a third grader but not quite as creative.  Horrible, just horrible.

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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 07:32:53 AM »
So does this mean you won't be doing a show about bodybuilders who smack their wives, ex-wives, and girlfriends around??  I'm sure Knny187 would be happy to dig up a few public records for you so you know which particular goombahs to interview.  :D
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2008, 07:34:42 AM »
Bump for truth.  I listened to it for about 10 minutes once and couldn't stand it.  Incoherent rambling by the hosts, inane questions that you would most likely find in people magazine, guest that answered questions that were not even asked and then no follow up by the hosts, no sense of direction...I could go on.  It was like reading a story written by a third grader but not quite as creative.  Horrible, just horrible.

Yeah, I thought Blockhead rambled quite a bit as well, but Special Ed wasn't that bad.  :-\
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2008, 07:35:37 AM »
I have been listening to every one of your 100 radio broadcasts...and I have enjoyed them all.
You started off the 100th with saying that u draw the line of not talking about affairs and wifes and so on concerningthe whole childish milos and nassar story. Bob u said that u draw the line....
then u have one of the greatest bodybuilders off all time on and I guess u dont draw the line anywhere as long as the marrige tragedy is big enough caus u spent a lot of time talking about how his wife shot him.....
now why would you say that u will not talk about wifes having affairs and then go on to talk about a terrible incident like what happend to Oliva. Its bodybuilding talk radio and I think talking about his wife shooting him and fighting cops belongs in the muscle mob program and u should be ashemed to spent olivias time on those topics. u should have tlaked about exercises back in the day ,supplements and old bodybuilding stories!
very dissapointed with the interview, your morals and double standpoint.
this is ment as constructive critisism and i hope u read it as that....
I have recomended the show to many and u have many norwegians ordering from your site and listening to your show because off me. so in my opinion you owe me an answer to this.
peace




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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2008, 07:36:30 AM »
Bob Chick always tells me I am out of the loop but he is out of his tree.


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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2008, 07:36:34 AM »
From now on the Chickster will be called..THE WEASEL


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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2008, 07:37:22 AM »
well, i don't really see this as the same.

oliva's wife shot him. it is something very serious that happened to him in the past and he is not currently in a relationship with her.

what nasser is bringing is purely smut and without any class whatsoever. he is thumbing his nose at milos, saying publically, 'i fucked your wife.' with the sole intention of hurting milos and attemtping to disrupt his family (don't forget, milos and milamar are married with children).

this type of thing should never be played out for public knowledge. i mean, what will milos' kids think of all this if/when someone presents this smut to them on the school playground or something?

apart from the pathetic and very desperate attempt at whoring for attention, this event occurred prior to milos and milimar getting married.
 



the point is not that the two incidents are exactly the same....the whole nassar milos thing is in my opinion the most childish arguement I have heared in this sport.and I dont give a shit on whos right or wrong.
the point is bodybuilding and keeping the focus on that....and when they say they draw a line in the sand..have little or noe upfollowing questions on steroid comments by the guests and normally just smoothes things over , they shouldt spend time on a relationship tragedy....they didt spend time on arnold asking him about sleeping around or treathing woman poorly so why do they waste the great Sergio Olivias time and why did they have this wrong focus on the interwiev after stating in the beginning of the show that they draw a line on personal things.....
they present themself as the most professional radioshow and always talk about whats good for the sport....well talking bout thoose personal tragedies with Olivia is not good for the sport...period.
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2008, 07:38:12 AM »
"Training, diet, and supplementation"?  Are you kidding??


1) Most people, unless they're 16 years old, already have that stuff down...  it's not rocket science.



Wrong.

They might know some of the info, but 95 - 98% of people training in gyms does not apply it at all, or applies it only for short periods of time which yields nothing. Practically nobody (perhaps 2 - 5% of people training in the gyms) integrates a proper diet and training regimen into their daily life with the consistency and time frame needed to actually look good and be real strong, yet most people have an idea about what it takes or where to get the information needed. Thus, they don't "have it down" at all.

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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2008, 07:41:31 AM »
Wrong.

They might know some of the info, but 95 - 98% of people training in gyms does not apply it at all, or applies it only for short periods of time which yields nothing. Practically nobody (perhaps 2 - 5% of people training in the gyms) integrates a proper diet and training regimen into their daily life with the consistency and time frame needed to actually look good and be real strong, yet most people have an idea about what it takes or where to get the information needed. Thus, they don't "have it down" at all.

You misunderstood my meaning.  I meant they know what to do, not that they were necessarily doing it.  Sergio talking about his training routing or diet accomplishes nothing useful in changing that.
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2008, 07:42:23 AM »
:D


I would truely hurt you if I could and I dont understand what you are doing on this forum or why you have an interest in the sport..
I have seen your pics and you look like nothing.I dont even understand why you have posted them.You are clearly disillusional.
Get your own post and I will stay away from whatever topic you want to discuss but if you dont have anything else but a childish frase and a picture of your dad ointing at your dick then stay the fuck away from mine.

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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2008, 07:45:58 AM »
You misunderstood my meaning.  I meant they know what to do, not that they were necessarily doing it.  Sergio talking about his training routing or diet accomplishes nothing useful in changing that.

well we know know but if u love bodybuilding you would want to hear how everything was back in the day....are u saying that the only thing they should talk about is personal episodes??
I would love to hear what Oliva ate and so one...even though i consider myself well updated after going to college and studying both nutrition and training.....
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