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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #100 on: February 19, 2008, 07:21:41 PM »
"He had the freakiest back I've ever seen"

Excuse me, but I think that Ronnie was including all bodybuilders who ever competed on a bodybuilding stage when he put the word "ever" there.

Orville Burke had a freaky back. Dennis Wolf has a freaky back. What's your point? A bodybuilder can have the freakiest back of all-time, but that doesn't mean he has the best back ever.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #101 on: February 19, 2008, 07:28:30 PM »
Yates had the best back of all time. Ronnie knows this and it is good that he admits it.
Also some at Flex argued for Doz in first. Personally I'd put Ronnie in 4th behind Stubbs and a second placed Haney. Scott Alexander in 5th.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #102 on: February 19, 2008, 08:34:36 PM »
Yates had the best back of all time. Ronnie knows this and it is good that he admits it.
Also some at Flex argued for Doz in first. Personally I'd put Ronnie in 4th behind Stubbs and a second placed Haney. Scott Alexander in 5th.

LMAO.

Ronnie in 4th behind Stubbs? no way.

Stubbs back is good, but it has a long way to go to catch up to the standard (#1 ever according to most and this list) that Ronnie set:
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #103 on: February 19, 2008, 09:02:44 PM »
Orville Burke had a freaky back. Dennis Wolf has a freaky back. What's your point? A bodybuilder can have the freakiest back of all-time, but that doesn't mean he has the best back ever.

  I guess in this case both words have a similar conotation. It makes no sense saying that a back is the freakiest you've ever seen if it is also not the best. By freakier I guess he meant "incredibly developed". What else is there to a back besides it's development?  The guys who had more definition to their backs, like Shawn Ray, had only a very minor advantage in this, which was not enough to overcome Dorian's huge advantage in size. Shawn had 5% more definition to his back, but Dorian had 50% more size.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #104 on: February 19, 2008, 09:13:53 PM »
LMAO.

Ronnie in 4th behind Stubbs? no way.

Stubbs back is good, but it has a long way to go to catch up to the standard (#1 ever according to most and this list) that Ronnie set:

Thickness, I'd say yes, but Stubbs looks like he's significantly taller than Ronnie (based on arm length?) so you know, he might very well be quite a bit larger than Ronnie.

I would still give Ronnie the nod but I think people are mistaking this guys relative obscurity as a top pro as being receipt that he doesn't have a super freaky bodypart.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #105 on: February 19, 2008, 10:56:35 PM »
I think it is fucking stupid how they have pics of guys in there but not there backs.  Or the back shots or horrible.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #106 on: February 20, 2008, 10:17:40 AM »
still playing follow the leader? ;)

I've corrected you plenty of times. For example, you thought conditioning is synonymous with definition but not density. You have yet to correct the quotes I provided claiming Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time. All you do is say "that's his personal opinion, which I disagree with" as if your word carries any weight against bodybuilding experts like Peter McGough, Shawn Perine, and Greg Merritt. ::)

ha ha ha ha, you keep believing that. Anyone with a brain can see that your argument skills are piss poor. You misinterpret what you read half the time, contradict yourself, don't provide any evidence to support your arguments, and call anyone who disagrees with you a troll. You've deluded yourself into believing the whole world is wrong and you're right.

wtf does that have to do with Ronnie looking huge at the 01 ASC? Once again your reading comprehension fails you. :-\

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still playing follow the leader? ;)

You're trying to hard to be like me kid , adopting my tags my style I'm flattered  :)

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I've corrected you plenty of times. For example, you thought conditioning is synonymous with definition but not density. You have yet to correct the quotes I provided claiming Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time. All you do is say "that's his personal opinion, which I disagree with" as if your word carries any weight against bodybuilding experts like Peter McGough, Shawn Perine, and Greg Merritt. ::)

I never thought that you're full of shit , I said density is part & parcel of conditioning however ( pay attention idiot ) it is judged as a separate entity which I proved via the Official IFBB judging criteria and I stated one can be well defined & dry and still not be dense so wrong on all accounts as usual

and hey moron I agree Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all time just based on his 8 Olympia titles and the most career wins that has NOTHING to do with if Dorian could beat him at his best  ;) and how fucking ironic you bring up me thinking my word carries any weight against the bodybuilding experts because aren't you the idiot who claimed McGough was flat out wrong saying Ronnie was never as hard or as dry as Dorian lol or Ronnie wasn't ' that smart ' because he conceded Yates would continue to beat him lol you're a hypocrite and a moron oh lets add you claimed Yates was wrong in saying he had better conditioning than Ronnie as well or Francis was wrong in her assessment Yates' had near perfect symmetry lol

you're a hypocrite and not a very bright one at that and again you have NOT proven me wrong on any of my points , Yates was harder & drier , Yates had better balance & proportion ( remember I thought you those two were separate entities ?  ;) ) so you're still stuck on stupid kid

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ha ha ha ha, you keep believing that. Anyone with a brain can see that your argument skills are piss poor. You misinterpret what you read half the time, contradict yourself, don't provide any evidence to support your arguments, and call anyone who disagrees with you a troll. You've deluded yourself into believing the whole world is wrong and you're right.

good job projecting all your faults on me , everything you just typed is nonsense , my argument is solid and can't be countered by any of you and best of all it was confirmed by your own hero it just doesn't get better than that

I provided both visual evidence & quotes that back up my claims you're an outright liar saying the contrary , I claimed Yates had better balance & proportion a claim I explained in detail and further elaborated using the IFBB criteria and had it confirmed by an IFBB judge ( Dorian himself ) just on that topic alone I provided everything you just claimed I didn't and all of my claims have been proven after the fact I might add , so spare me the nonsense I can't form an argument because like I stated before my argument hasn't been countered yet by any of you , you didn't even know the judging criteria and you're going to comment on how Ronnie could beat Yates without even knowing how contests are judged lmfao thats a great argument?

again Yates would beat Ronnie because he has better balance & proportion , better conditioning & density ,is a better technical poser and is more complete and depending on the year has the edge in muscular bulk , again none of you can't counter this , so have a nice day.

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wtf does that have to do with Ronnie looking huge at the 01 ASC? Once again your reading comprehension fails you. :-\

you used the quote and I corrected you with the amended quote and I've already stated he does look huge in 2001 big deal Yates is HUGE at 269 pounds and like McGough said when you're supersharp you appear super big and again a 318 pound Ferrigno and a 275 Pound Dillett couldn't dwarf a 257 pound Yates , so no matter how big a 244 pound Ronnie's appears he is in no way shape or form going to dwarf a super sharp , super huge Dorian at 269 pounds especially not in the back department

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see above.

ditto .

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #107 on: February 20, 2008, 10:28:02 AM »
I thumbed through the magazine today and I laughed at the pics the used of Yates one of him in the front lat spread from 1991 when he was 239 pounds lol and an offseason pic that looked good but none that compared to the ones I posted


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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #108 on: February 20, 2008, 10:31:06 AM »
Orville Burke had a freaky back. Dennis Wolf has a freaky back. What's your point? A bodybuilder can have the freakiest back of all-time, but that doesn't mean he has the best back ever.

Burke and Wolf both have very wide backs , Yates has a very wide back plus his lats insert near his waist , ontop of having insanely freaky traps and x-mass tree which is what separates Yates' freaky from everyone elses Coleman included and ironically neither of the names you mentioned are on the list I wonder why .

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #109 on: February 20, 2008, 10:41:52 AM »
This back lacks nothing.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #110 on: February 20, 2008, 10:42:15 AM »
still playing follow the leader

You're trying too hard to be like me, kiddo, adopting my tags and style. I'm flattered. ;)

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I never thought that you're full of shit , I said density is part & parcel of conditioning however ( pay attention idiot ) it is judged as a separate entity which I proved via the Official IFBB judging criteria and I stated one can be well defined & dry and still not be dense so wrong on all accounts as usual

ha ha ha, meltdown.

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and hey moron I agree Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all time just based on his 8 Olympia titles and the most career wins that has NOTHING to do with if Dorian could beat him at his best and how fucking ironic you bring up me thinking my word carries any weight against the bodybuilding experts because aren't you the idiot who claimed McGough was flat out wrong saying Ronnie was never as hard or as dry as Dorian lol or Ronnie wasn't ' that smart ' because he conceded Yates would continue to beat him lol you're a hypocrite and a moron oh lets add you claimed Yates was wrong in saying he had better conditioning than Ronnie as well or Francis was wrong in her assessment Yates' had near perfect symmetry lol

learn to read, you illiterate moron. I said Ronnie's conditioning at the 01 ASC has never been surpassed. Dorian may be tied with him for best conditioning ever, but a human being cannot drop any more body fat or water without dying than Ronnie's 01 ASC showing.

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good job projecting all your faults on me , everything you just typed is nonsense , my argument is solid and can't be countered by any of you and best of all it was confirmed by your own hero it just doesn't get better than that

you keep believing that. Anyone with a brain can see that your argument skills are piss poor. You misinterpret what you read half the time, contradict yourself, don't provide any evidence to support your arguments, and call anyone who disagrees with you a troll. You've deluded yourself into believing the whole world is wrong and you're right.

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I provided both visual evidence & quotes that back up my claims you're an outright liar saying the contrary , I claimed Yates had better balance & proportion a claim I explained in detail and further elaborated using the IFBB criteria and had it confirmed by an IFBB judge ( Dorian himself ) just on that topic alone I provided everything you just claimed I didn't and all of my claims have been proven after the fact I might add , so spare me the nonsense I can't form an argument because like I stated before my argument hasn't been countered yet by any of you , you didn't even know the judging criteria and you're going to comment on how Ronnie could beat Yates without even knowing how contests are judged lmfao thats a great argument?

suuure, just ask Hulkster or anyone else who has followed your arguments from the beginning. You avoid using visual evidence b/c it contradicts your claims. All you do is post outdated quotes and even then, they are easily negated by quotes from credible sources that say the contrary.

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you used the quote and I corrected you with the amended quote and I've already stated he does look huge in 2001 big deal Yates is HUGE at 269 pounds and like McGough said when you're supersharp you appear super big and again a 318 pound Ferrigno and a 275 Pound Dillett couldn't dwarf a 257 pound Yates , so no matter how big a 244 pound Ronnie's appears he is in no way shape or form going to dwarf a super sharp , super huge Dorian at 269 pounds especially not in the back department

what you fail to realize is that Ronnie at 250 lbs is not the same as Dorian at 250 lbs. Ronnie has a narrower waist, smaller joints, and fuller muscle bellies that create the illusion of added size. So while he may be lighter than Dorian by a few lbs, you wouldn't be able to tell just by looking at them on stage. I posted a quote from Dexter Jackson commenting on this, which must have went over your head as usual. :-\

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #111 on: February 20, 2008, 10:45:39 AM »
Burke and Wolf both have very wide backs , Yates has a very wide back plus his lats insert near his waist , ontop of having insanely freaky traps and x-mass tree which is what separates Yates' freaky from everyone elses Coleman included and ironically neither of the names you mentioned are on the list I wonder why.

doesn't matter. We cannot assume to know what Ronnie was thinking (your logic, not mine). Show me where he explicitly said "Dorian has the best back of all-time" otherwise it never happened.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #112 on: February 20, 2008, 10:49:58 AM »
This back lacks nothing.

it even comes complete with bacne and folds of skin.






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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #113 on: February 20, 2008, 11:00:16 AM »
You guys are crazy..It's like Groundhog day; you post the same pictures and make the same arguments over and over and over and over...yet you NEVER agree and by the end are arguing in front of an empty audience.

I will say that I do admire your persistence and never say die attitude - all of you.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #114 on: February 20, 2008, 11:20:34 AM »
The keg falling to a solid 3rd place after domination by Stubbs.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #115 on: February 20, 2008, 02:08:12 PM »
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Yes after many years of reflection Ronnie Coleman who is the Greatest Bodybuilder Who Ever lived came to the conclusion he's never seen a more freakier & thicker back than Dorian Yates lol
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This is not an admission that Dorian was better than himself. I respect your view, but when I look at the comparisons of Ronnie and Dorian, I find that Ronnie has a better back overall.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #116 on: February 20, 2008, 02:13:21 PM »
You're trying too hard to be like me, kiddo, adopting my tags and style. I'm flattered. ;)

ha ha ha, meltdown.

learn to read, you illiterate moron. I said Ronnie's conditioning at the 01 ASC has never been surpassed. Dorian may be tied with him for best conditioning ever, but a human being cannot drop any more body fat or water without dying than Ronnie's 01 ASC showing.

you keep believing that. Anyone with a brain can see that your argument skills are piss poor. You misinterpret what you read half the time, contradict yourself, don't provide any evidence to support your arguments, and call anyone who disagrees with you a troll. You've deluded yourself into believing the whole world is wrong and you're right.

suuure, just ask Hulkster or anyone else who has followed your arguments from the beginning. You avoid using visual evidence b/c it contradicts your claims. All you do is post outdated quotes and even then, they are easily negated by quotes from credible sources that say the contrary.

what you fail to realize is that Ronnie at 250 lbs is not the same as Dorian at 250 lbs. Ronnie has a narrower waist, smaller joints, and fuller muscle bellies that create the illusion of added size. So while he may be lighter than Dorian by a few lbs, you wouldn't be able to tell just by looking at them on stage. I posted a quote from Dexter Jackson commenting on this, which must have went over your head as usual. :-\

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You're trying too hard to be like me, kiddo, adopting my tags and style. I'm flattered. ;)

Oh boy lol

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ha ha ha, meltdown.

You accuse me of something and I correct you and all you're left with is ' meltdown ' a meltdown would including calling someone a ' dirty Mexican ' you know you've been there  ;)

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learn to read, you illiterate moron. I said Ronnie's conditioning at the 01 ASC has never been surpassed. Dorian may be tied with him for best conditioning ever, but a human being cannot drop any more body fat or water without dying than Ronnie's 01 ASC showing.

lmfao now you're reduced to Dorian may have tied him get out here , you NEVER once claimed Yates was comparable in terms of conditioning to Ronnie and you insisted the people who said so are outright liars and flat out wrong , it was me who said perhaps they did push in terms of conditioning however the difference is Yates could sustain that bone dry & rock hard conditioning at much higher bodyweights so either way you're wrong as usual

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you keep believing that. Anyone with a brain can see that your argument skills are piss poor. You misinterpret what you read half the time, contradict yourself, don't provide any evidence to support your arguments, and call anyone who disagrees with you a troll. You've deluded yourself into believing the whole world is wrong and you're right.

you're starting to sound like Hulkster ' anyone '  ::) my argument is sound and you've yet to counter it and I've provided written and visual evidence . my argument is Dorian would beat Ronnie because he's has better density & conditioning , he has better balance & proportion and he's more complete and he's a better technical poser in essence he satisfies the IFBB judging criteria better than Ronnie

Now to start off you didn't even know the Official IFBB judging criteria until I posted it , how the fuck are you going to comment on how Ronnie is going to win if you don't even know what the judges look for? that my dim witted little friend is called evidence

I proved my point about Dorian having better conditioning & density

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

Dorian Yates his conditioning directly compared to Ronnie

I probably have a bit better balance and better conditioning on the day of the contest 

Dorian is an IFBB judge I think he would know who is better conditioned and lets kill two bird with one stone and better balanced

another occasion Yates comments specifically on his conditioning compared to Ronnie


4. A lot of people say that you are the only pro bodybuilder that could go head to head with Ronnie Coleman.  Like him, you were the only other to be able to gain so much mass in one year. What are your thoughts on this?


A. I get asked that question all the time, and I can’t really give an answer.  I have actually beaten Ronnie, but then he wasn’t at the stage he is now.  He is probably carrying more muscle than I did, but I feel I had better conditioning than him.   


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Peter Mcgough

  "These words should not be taken lightly, because no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."


This my idiot of a friend is evidence that suggests Dorian's density & dryness are better than Ronnies

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.


more complete and once again better conditioning , and whats this nonsense I don't know how to form an argument? and back it up? oh and btw I always maintained Yates had better conditioning than Ronnie before I EVER posted ANY of these quotes the best part is I confirmed it after the fact , there were a few on balance & proportion in there but I could post more but whats the sense? the point is proven ( yet again )

So I already explained via pictures & videos in my own words Yates has better conditioning & density ( which I explained to you while they both fall under the umbrella they are judged as separate entities and proven using the IFBB judging criteria which lists them separately on more than once occasion ) and I've proven this specific to the argument compared to Ronnie Coleman using and IFBB judge ( you just don't get better than that ) I proven my point he has better balance & proportion ( hey another thing I taught you that balance & proportion are NOT the same thing but separate entities , you being the ignorant fuck you are thought they were the same , Yates shut you up on that one as well as Bev Francis ) whats left? Yates is more complete? thats obvious I'm not sure if anyone is in disagreement with that just like Yates being a better technical poser so whats left? muscular bulk depending on the year Yates has the clear cut advantage as well , especially compared to Ronnie at his best ( not 2003  ;) ) 2001 Arnold Classic

So in closing this is my argument , this is the evidence for my argument ( along with many pics & videos ) it works within the confines of the IFBB criteria and this is exactly why I think Dorian at his best would beat Ronnie at his !! my argument is sound and you , Hulkster and any other fan-boy can't counter it and the part that makes you a troll is you just type nonsense to the contrary despite it being flat out wrong , again you're projecting your weak abilities on me and feel you would have better luck elsewhere and I could care less on debating religion with you you bore me .

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suuure, just ask Hulkster or anyone else who has followed your arguments from the beginning. You avoid using visual evidence b/c it contradicts your claims. All you do is post outdated quotes and even then, they are easily negated by quotes from credible sources that say the contrary.

lmfao ask Hulkster ? he's almost a bigger idiot than you , wait maybe he's bigger , either way its very close , from the beginning I posted MORE pictures than ANY of you thats lie number 1 , I don't post in the truce thread because I won lol whats the sense? and any picture I posted you people see what you want anyway you had Hulkster the moron claiming Ronnie had more detailed calves than Dorian I mean seriously you people live beyond the grace of this God . and not one single quote I posted just on this topic related to the best back is outdated in fact they're all post retirement for Yates and in fact most of the quotes I post are specific to the debate of who is better Ronnie or Dorian , so thats lie number 2 for you ! oh and BTW the Ronnie quote admitting he would have NEVER beaten Yates is like 2 months old , so much for outdated quotes lmfao walk away kid because the hammer is dropping on your head

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what you fail to realize is that Ronnie at 250 lbs is not the same as Dorian at 250 lbs. Ronnie has a narrower waist, smaller joints, and fuller muscle bellies that create the illusion of added size. So while he may be lighter than Dorian by a few lbs, you wouldn't be able to tell just by looking at them on stage. I posted a quote from Dexter Jackson commenting on this, which must have went over your head as usual. :-\

I never failed to realize that , again Neo probe to outright lying when you have nothing , in fact I commented on Ronnie's width being an illusion specifically because of a narrow waist & hips , while Ronnie may appear big , Dorian is bigger and harder & drier , Dorian at 269 pounds would make a 244 pound Ronnie look petite

so in closing you have NOTHING as usual , you haven't proven anything at all you were owned not once but twice by your own hero which ended the truce thread , you did a great job of avoiding the topic at hand which is who has the better back , lets stick to that topic which I will completely own you on again

now Yates has a better back because................. .............

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #117 on: February 20, 2008, 02:19:44 PM »
doesn't matter. We cannot assume to know what Ronnie was thinking (your logic, not mine). Show me where he explicitly said "Dorian has the best back of all-time" otherwise it never happened.


Another example of Neo playing with words ! when an 8 time Mr Olympia and the " greatest Bodybuilder Who Ever Lived " says Yates has the thickest & freakiest back he's ever seen it speaks Volumes of how outstanding Dorian Yates

Hey another Mr Olympia feels the same way , this once again speaks volumes and he's more specific  ;)

Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates

Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian Yates


you think " Team Flex " ( who btw already voted Yates best back ) is right and two Mr Olympia with outstanding backs are wrong? again its subjective and arguable to think Team flex is right over these guys is dumb

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #118 on: February 20, 2008, 02:41:15 PM »
I would have to say that I would reverse Coleman and Yates. Yates #1, Coleman #2...and then significant drop to #3.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #119 on: February 20, 2008, 02:44:37 PM »
I would have to say that I would reverse Coleman and Yates. Yates #1, Coleman #2...and then significant drop to #3.

smart man !

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #120 on: February 20, 2008, 02:47:22 PM »
I would have to say that I would reverse Coleman and Yates. Yates #1, Coleman #2...and then significant drop to #3.
Good idea, who needs taper?

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #121 on: February 20, 2008, 02:52:17 PM »
Good idea, who needs taper?

Same contests owned

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #122 on: February 20, 2008, 02:54:15 PM »
This should be number 1 on the list ! lol

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #123 on: February 20, 2008, 02:56:36 PM »
Same contests owned

Not; his taper's nowhere near Coleman or Stubbs thanx to the keg's blockiness, blockhead.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #124 on: February 20, 2008, 02:57:52 PM »
This should be number 1 on the list ! lol

ND using his own pic ROFL