IQ By Country... Is this accurate?

[Sumpa]

I still call bullshit on the Italians > 100. It's also weird that Norway, Denmark and Finland has lower then Sweden when our genes and education systems are practically identical (Finns with russian blood could perhaps be blamed for Finlands low score). I also doubt that England is > 100. I've met a lot of brits and none of them impressed me with their intelligence or common knowledge, to put it mildly. A lot of inbreeding on that small island...

[Ursus]

I still call bullshit on the Italians > 100. It's also weird that Norway, Denmark and Finland has lower then Sweden when our genes and education systems are practically identical (Finns with russian blood could perhaps be blamed for Finlands low score). I also doubt that England is > 100. I've met a lot of brits and none of them impressed me with their intelligence or common knowledge, to put it mildly. A lot of inbreeding on that small island...

Well you are harldy a brainbox. 3 countries with borders does not equal an island. britain is not an island.

[Pecs]

WOW they actually showed singapore in green (>100) among others where it is soooooooooo small below malaysia, at somewhere near the top left of australia.  Singapore is really just a small dot in the world map but i am glad they didn't neglect it! 

got to strain the eyes a actually to see the little green dot

[CoolDuck]

Has the Great Debussey read the Pulitzer prize winning Guns, Germs, and Steel?
http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Jared-Diamond/dp/0739467352/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210749931&sr=8-2

I have read it. The book is a large apologetical speech for the failure of Africa, but it cannot explain the black-white-asian IQ gap at present.

Also, I think one should be clear about what "black" means. The term in this context refers to people of mainly African descent (south of Sahara).
People of this descent as a group fail in academia all over the world. I've been to several large international scientific conferences in medicine, and I have seen extemely few people of clear southern-african descent at such conferences, not from the USA or South America, not from Europe and not from Africa. The systematic failure of blacks in the very top level of academia wherever in the world they live is a very real phenomenon. Fortunately, academics is not everything.

CD

[CoolDuck]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/IQ_by_Country.png

This is probably pure bullshit. IQ tests are not ratio-scales. They are normed for the group they are to be used for assessing individuals from and average is set to 100 and the standard deviation to 15 (for WAIS). By definition, the national average is 100. If not, re-norming is preferrably carried out.

However, crackpot scientists such as Lynn and Vanhanen have tried to extrapolate "IQ" from various sources. The thing they are studying is not IQ, however. Perhaps their findings have merit as some sort of demographical measure. Actually, the infamous J. Phillippe Rushton has done research of better quality than Lynn and Vanhanen.

CD

[Sharma]

Italians (Romans) were the first to modernise Europe. They learnt much from the Greeks who learnt much from the first great civilization in human history : Egypt.

 Your forefathers were living in caves, fucking their sister and shitting in rivers while the Egyptians were building the most amazing of all structures; the pyramids, the great lighthouse, they study math and astronomy.

Think about that friends.

[CoolDuck]

Italians (Romans) were the first to modernise Europe. They learnt much from the Greeks who learnt much from the first great civilization in human history : Egypt.

 Your forefathers were living in caves, fucking their sister and shitting in rivers while the Egyptians were building the most amazing of all structures; the pyramids, the great lighthouse, they study math and astronomy.

Think about that friends.

Yes, and Egyptians are not very similar to south-western Africans :-).

CD

[Matt C]

In terms of intelligence:

Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.

This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing.  It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science.  It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial.  It's scientific fact.  The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.

PS: check out my review of "M3 Muscle Bound by Higher Power Nutrition":

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

It will be a huge 45 day review log!  I look forward to it immensely.

[G o a t b o y]

This is probably pure bullshit. IQ tests are not ratio-scales. They are normed for the group they are to be used for assessing individuals from and average is set to 100 and the standard deviation to 15 (for WAIS). By definition, the national average is 100.

You're making the same mistake disco_stu did... 100 is not the national average, country-by-country,  it is set at the humankind average, the world average, the average of everyone who has ever taken the test.  If you re-norm the distribution for every country individually how in god's name do you expect to compare relative intelligence worldwide?  Doing it that way, every country would have a mean of 100, since whatever the individual country's mean score was would automatically be defined as "100". 

[The Master]

In terms of intelligence:

Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.

This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing.  It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science.  It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial.  It's scientific fact.  The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.

The failure of blacks in pursuits that require high level cognitive skills = quite clear. There is at the present time no way to get around this, and as history has shown again and again: The apologetic routine and delusions based upon contemporary norms and beliefs might inhibit the truth from surfacing in the short term, but in the long term truth always wins and eventually becomes an established fact. More and more people will eventually see and accept this, especially when the knowledge of genetics becomes so advanced that the genes (or lack of genes) that = responsible for the weak cognitive abilities of the average black humanoid can be identified, and eventually eradicated through genetic engineering.

Debussey does not like to say this, but in a world that increasingly values and requires solid cognitive skills, being dumb is like having a disease. When genetic engineering can help stupid people become at least somewhat less dull or normal, these people will no doubt all become engineered. Who the fuck wants to live with a disadvantage that robs them of a lot of good stuff, when it can be easily fixed (in the future, that is)? That's like saying: I love to live with the Alzheimer's or cancer that my genes gave me, and I won't change it!!!

[disco_stu]

sigh.

i never made that mistake. re -read my post.

i explained that in any given sample the average is normed to 100.

then i went on to explain that the IQ test as we know it is biased towards cultures that are analytical by nature and exposed to that type of issues/problems.

its absolutely not the humankind average. can you imagine the scores achieved by people who've never seen numbers before?...(hence cant identify numerical patterns and sequences?)

i made no mistake. The mistake is the morons who read my post looking for something to pull me up on and are grasping at straws and reading things that arent there.

in hypothetical terms, every country WILL have a IQ of 100 as its mean. It is a measure of chronological age versus intelligence age. So by definition is HAS TO BE 100.

The issue is that each country, due to its culture, has to have a suitable measure that is indicative. Using 1 standard IQ test doesnt achieve this.

That's why the chart is BS. As I clearly states, the chart is more a measure of how applicable tha IQ test is globally. i.e. it isnt effective.

please re-read my post properly before replying in future.

[disco_stu]

This is probably pure bullshit. IQ tests are not ratio-scales. They are normed for the group they are to be used for assessing individuals from and average is set to 100 and the standard deviation to 15 (for WAIS). By definition, the national average is 100. If not, re-norming is preferrably carried out.

However, crackpot scientists such as Lynn and Vanhanen have tried to extrapolate "IQ" from various sources. The thing they are studying is not IQ, however. Perhaps their findings have merit as some sort of demographical measure. Actually, the infamous J. Phillippe Rushton has done research of better quality than Lynn and Vanhanen.

CD

you are exactly correct CD.

[disco_stu]

In terms of intelligence:

Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.

This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing.  It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science.  It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial.  It's scientific fact.  The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.

PS: check out my review of "M3 Muscle Bound by Higher Power Nutrition":

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

It will be a huge 45 day review log!  I look forward to it immensely.

i'd love to see the scientific double blind test that gave these findings..any of them. Can you please send some legitimate references?

[G o a t b o y]

I have read it. The book is a large apologetical speech for the failure of Africa, but it cannot explain the black-white-asian IQ gap at present.

Also, I think one should be clear about what "black" means. The term in this context refers to people of mainly African descent (south of Sahara).
People of this descent as a group fail in academia all over the world. I've been to several large international scientific conferences in medicine, and I have seen extemely few people of clear southern-african descent at such conferences, not from the USA or South America, not from Europe and not from Africa. The systematic failure of blacks in the very top level of academia wherever in the world they live is a very real phenomenon. Fortunately, academics is not everything.

CD

Blacks born in US/Europe - "Whitey be holdin' a brother down"...  Blacks born in Asia - "Chinks be holdin' a brother down"...  Blacks born in Latin America...  "Damn Spics be holdin' a brother down".  Africa itself, where there are no whites, asians, or latinos to hold him down?  Colonialism (even though it ended generations ago) "be holdin' a brother down"!  Seems there's always someone to blame, huh?   

[The Master]

sigh.

i never made that mistake. re -read my post.

i explained that in any given sample the average is normed to 100.

then i went on to explain that the IQ test as we know it is biased towards cultures that are analytical by nature and exposed to that type of issues/problems.

its absolutely not the humankind average. can you imagine the scores achieved by people who've never seen numbers before?...(hence cant identify numerical patterns and sequences?)

i made no mistake. The mistake is the morons who read my post looking for something to pull me up on and are grasping at straws and reading things that arent there.

in hypothetical terms, every country WILL have a IQ of 100 as its mean. It is a measure of chronological age versus intelligence age. So by definition is HAS TO BE 100.

The issue is that each country, due to its culture, has to have a suitable measure that is indicative. Using 1 standard IQ test doesnt achieve this.

That's why the chart is BS. As I clearly states, the chart is more a measure of how applicable tha IQ test is globally. i.e. it isnt effective.

please re-read my post properly before replying in future.

Without taking a stand to what you say, the charts implications does hold up in the states: African americans born and raised in the USA DO score much lower than whites and orientals. Even blacks of a much higher socialeconomical status in the states on average scores about 10 points lower than low middle class whites and orientals. Careful analysis by Arthur Jensen and others of these results has concluded that these differences =mainly genetical.

 

[The Master]

Blacks born in US/Europe - "Whitey be holdin' a brother down"...  Blacks born in Asia - "Chinks be holdin' a brother down"...  Blacks born in Latin America...  "Damn Spics be holdin' a brother down".  Africa itself, where there are no whites, asians, or latinos to hold him down?  Colonialism (even though it ended generations ago) "be holdin' a brother down"!  Seems there's always someone to blame, huh?   

It = no wonder that Africa = basically a complete mess

[disco_stu]

GB you're obviously a fine product of the pseudo aryan half race..bastards themselves and now consisting of societies undereducated, underachieving, undercontributing extremists.

what you write is contradictory to your avatar and signature in that the whole point of the hitler lead "cleansing" was to erradicate the ignorant, stupid and lame- yet this is the core of the group now as we know it.

rather than have pillars of society, contributors, leaders, fine specimens genetically and as progression champions we have a collection of people who resort to violence due to inability to construct a party or group that works within the bounds of society's laws and rules that are used to govern, control and determine how the community works.

until then, this pathetic group is merely a bunch of knuckle dragging losers who whine and complain about how other "races" have it better than them and it's not fair..wah wah wah.

the solution is to get together a smart group that woos the public and provides a benchmark of excellence. Which would mean distancing itself as far as possible from the likes of yourself and the tattoo covered bald headed morons that you follow like sheep.

The same goes for any "group" wanting rights and equality etc. It furthermore needs to be able to establish basis for equality and also that inequality exists in the first place.

any other method of doing it results in war on many levels. People just dont put up with crap like bullying and violence for very long.

Maybe a demographic map sorted into extremist groups and showing IQs would be more interesting?- I'd be very surprised if the white brotherhood scored above 90 avg. on the standardised western test. - purely based on inability to conceptualise the complexities of the world we live in.

[G o a t b o y]

Italians (Romans) were the first to modernise Europe. They learnt much from the Greeks who learnt much from the first great civilization in human history : Egypt.

Sorry, Nasser:

Archaeology has now established that civilization appeared earlier in southern Mesopotamia than anywhere else. Urban conglomerations of populations, monumental architecture and writing were all in existence by 3500 BC, whereas they did not appear in Egypt for several centuries after this.

http://www.appiusforum.com/civilizations.html

[The Master]

GB you're obviously a fine product of the pseudo aryan half race..bastards themselves and now consisting of societies undereducated, underachieving, undercontributing extremists.

what you write is contradictory to your avatar and signature in that the whole point of the hitler lead "cleansing" was to erradicate the ignorant, stupid and lame- yet this is the core of the group now as we know it.

rather than have pillars of society, contributors, leaders, fine specimens genetically and as progression champions we have a collection of people who resort to violence due to inability to construct a party or group that works within the bounds of society's laws and rules that are used to govern, control and determine how the community works.

until then, this pathetic group is merely a bunch of knuckle dragging losers who whine and complain about how other "races" have it better than them and it's not fair..wah wah wah.

the solution is to get together a smart group that woos the public and provides a benchmark of excellence. Which would mean distancing itself as far as possible from the likes of yourself and the tattoo covered bald headed morons that you follow like sheep.

The same goes for any "group" wanting rights and equality etc. It furthermore needs to be able to establish basis for equality and also that inequality exists in the first place.

any other method of doing it results in war on many levels. People just dont put up with crap like bullying and violence for very long.

Maybe a demographic map sorted into extremist groups and showing IQs would be more interesting?- I'd be very surprised if the white brotherhood scored above 90 avg. on the standardised western test. - purely based on inability to conceptualise the complexities of the world we live in.

What = your IQ?

[G o a t b o y]

what you write is contradictory to your avatar and signature in that the whole point of the hitler lead "cleansing" was to erradicate the ignorant, stupid and lame- yet this is the core of the group now as we know it.

The signature is solely to poke fun at Ron Avidan and political correctness.   I'm a Nazi like you're a Mongolian lesbian. 

[disco_stu]

Without taking a stand to what you say, the charts implications does hold up in the states: African americans born and raised in the USA DO score much lower than whites and orientals. Even blacks of a much higher socialeconomical status in the states on average scores about 10 points lower than low middle class whites and orientals. Careful analysis by Arthur Jensen and others of these results has concluded that these differences =mainly genetical.

 

references please. double blind tests. Whats this guys credentials?.. is it accepted my the medical community?
2 things.. genetical- never heard of it, and another- if they do, then it follows that the majority of the white population in the US is dumber than the rest of the world's who have an average of 100. This has to occur as the number of "black people" would bring the norm down, so someone scoring 100 in the US would probably only get 95 or less elsewhere.

I'm having a real problem accepting genetic intelligence differences considering we all stemmed from the very same blueprint and culture and environment evolved the physical differences. Not saying that the stats are false- but suggesting that theres no difference in potential- which is what IQ tests are supposed to capture.

[disco_stu]

The signature is solely to poke fun at Ron Avidan and political correctness.   I'm a Nazi like you're a Mongolian lesbian. 

very clever comeback. tasteful and appropriate.

you shouldve just posted a pic with your tongue out..woulda been just as effective.

[Camel Jockey]

In terms of intelligence:

Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.

This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing.  It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science.  It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial.  It's scientific fact.  The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.

PS: check out my review of "M3 Muscle Bound by Higher Power Nutrition":

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

It will be a huge 45 day review log!  I look forward to it immensely.

Why would you rate jews second when they score higher than any other group on average?

[G o a t b o y]

.. genetical- never heard of it

English isn't his first language...  cut him some slack.

[Big_Tymer]

id love to give al sharpton a link to this thread