For a natural - no point to eat more than 60g's or protein/day

[Harley Buckshot]

say you test two groups over the course of 1 year... conditions are as ideal as possible (both naturals- as obviously juicers must intake much protein)

group a-50g's/year
group b-250g's

-starting at same bodyfat levels and same weight
-both have same diet/workout routine except a protein difference (Ex: carbs and fat intake are same)

I would not expect their to be exceptionally MORE muscle on the person who at 250g's

there are A LOT more people on this planet that eat a "normal diet" and have great looking bodies than their are people who eat typical "bb diets" consisting of 7 chicken breasts/2 lbs of steak a day

Im NOT referring to male runway models, like i said - athletes that workout hard but just dont eat stupid protein amounts

like THIS guy

think about all the baseball, football, basketball etc etc players out there that workout hard and have killer bodies... i guarantee u they ate a "normal" (relatively speaking) diet

[OTHstrong]

Yes there would be more muscle.

[Eisenherz]

Please post pics of thouse athletes with killer bodies and also where it says they only eat 50g protein a day.
 
P.S. This thread is uber lame.

[markdavis]

i eat shit load of protiens evry day probly enough for a hole godmamm family i need my protiens for my supireor muscles for the mr getbig3 champoinshipps of teh bodybildings ill be a sumbitch if some bodys try and steal my protiens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111do my jackdaniels haves alots of them protiens you sumbitcjhhssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

[Harley Buckshot]

Please post pics of thouse athletes with killer bodies and also where it says they only eat 50g protein a day.
 
P.S. This thread is uber lame.

translation: I eat every tuna every 2 hours and the black guy at gym who eats cheerios for breakfast has better body than me

[markdavis]

translation: I eat every tuna every 2 hours and the black guy at gym who eats cheerios for breakfast has better body than me

yep you goddamm right them sumbitchss are ripped they come out of them big ass breeding women aunt jimmama

[Harley Buckshot]

.

im sure this guy is prioritizing his tupper ware contianers with chicken and rice 

[triple_pickle]

the group consuming 250g a day would have 1.92 pounds more of lean muscle mass but the difference would not be statistically significant at the conventional confidence level, hth

[Harley Buckshot]

MUST GET THAT PROTEIN SHAKE in 1 hour window!!! AHHHHHHHHH! hahah oh brother

[NaturalWonder83]

i think there is no need for all this high high protein diet

just eat a decent amount of sensible calories and youll be good

i work with a dude who is huge and in amazing shape and he eats a normal diet and goes 4-5 hours w/out eating and works out hard 5 days a week

[Eisenherz]

.

im sure this guy is prioritizing his tupper ware contianers with chicken and rice 

Oh shit this guy is huge, I guess you win, from now on I will only be eating 50g protein per day like this guy.

[dustin]

If the type of "killer bodies" you're talking about are the skinny David Beckham, homo looking physiques then you are correct. Otherwise, I don't think anyone here should be lowering their protein consumption any time soon. homo hippies have been preaching this for years and they look like disheveled Grateful Dead eraser heads that did too much LSD back in the day and refuse bathing and wearing deodorant or anti perspirant.

[Harley Buckshot]

yea, this guy is eating 250lbs of protein a day im sure

[just_a_pilgrim]

I have eaten 400 grams a day and about 125 grams a day. I would say there is no difference but i feel better and stay leaner at 125 grams.

Maybe if you start going down below 70-80 grams it might be a different story.

Phil Hernon basically says eat when you are hungrey and what you eat will make the difference. I wish i followed this when i was younger i would have stayed leaner.

[Harley Buckshot]

If the type of "killer bodies" you're talking about are the skinny David Beckham, homo looking physiques then you are correct. Otherwise, I don't think anyone here should be lowering their protein consumption any time soon. homo hippies have been preaching this for years and they look like disheveled Grateful Dead eraser heads that did too much LSD back in the day and refuse bathing and wearing deodorant or anti perspirant.

you sound like the guy who has a "Animal Pak" poster on his wall... let me guess, u wake up at 5 a.m. and do squats too huh "dustin"

[Harley Buckshot]

Oh shit this guy is huge, I guess you win, from now on I will only be eating 50g protein per day like this guy.

why dont u post ur pic?

[NaturalWonder83]

to all u high protein nuts
let me asks u this
why convicts in jail are huge and muscular yet they do not eat super high proteins diet-they just pile in calories
why did eugene sandow of yesteryears not eat all this every 2-3 hours crap and he was in good shape?

just eat manly and train hard-no need to weigh and count calories-eat hearty and watch the gains come

no need to eat 5000 calories likes all the mags tell u

wise up

[Harley Buckshot]

to all u high protein nuts
let me asks u this
why convicts in jail are huge and muscular yet they do not eat super high proteins diet-they just pile in calories
why did eugene sandow of yesteryears not eat all this every 2-3 hours crap and he was in good shape?

just eat manly and train hard-no need to weigh and count calories-eat hearty and watch the gains come

no need to eat 5000 calories likes all the mags tell u

wise up

EXACTLY. Most of these guys "swearing" by high protein ARE the ones reading it from bb.com and flex because it "says so".... Unless u are juicing (for protein synthesis obviously) then natural guys have no fucking reason to take that much in. it is stupid and counterproductive.

[markdavis]

hey harley are you my good ol buddy squadfahter i think you are him you crazy sumbitch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[OTHstrong]

to all u high protein nuts
let me asks u this
why convicts in jail are huge and muscular yet they do not eat super high proteins diet-they just pile in calories
why did eugene sandow of yesteryears not eat all this every 2-3 hours crap and he was in good shape?

just eat manly and train hard-no need to weigh and count calories-eat hearty and watch the gains come

no need to eat 5000 calories likes all the mags tell u

wise up

You don't have a clue what you are talking about Eugene sandow has as much muscle as one of Ronnies legs and every convict I've seen is fat, believe me there is roids in there too, and they do eat extra protein. Top pros eat large amounts of protein and when you figure this out then maybe you will have muscle too.

[ASJChaotic]

say you test two groups over the course of 1 year... conditions are as ideal as possible (both naturals- as obviously juicers must intake much protein)

group a-50g's/year
group b-250g's

-starting at same bodyfat levels and same weight
-both have same diet/workout routine except a protein difference (Ex: carbs and fat intake are same)

I would not expect their to be exceptionally MORE muscle on the person who at 250g's

there are A LOT more people on this planet that eat a "normal diet" and have great looking bodies than their are people who eat typical "bb diets" consisting of 7 chicken breasts/2 lbs of steak a day

Im NOT referring to male runway models, like i said - athletes that workout hard but just dont eat stupid protein amounts

like THIS guy

think about all the baseball, football, basketball etc etc players out there that workout hard and have killer bodies... i guarantee u they ate a "normal" (relatively speaking) diet

0.5 grams times bodyweight is enough
not too much, not too little 
200lbs =100 grams

[dustin]

to all u high protein nuts
let me asks u this
why convicts in jail are huge and muscular yet they do not eat super high proteins diet-they just pile in calories
why did eugene sandow of yesteryears not eat all this every 2-3 hours crap and he was in good shape?

just eat manly and train hard-no need to weigh and count calories-eat hearty and watch the gains come

no need to eat 5000 calories likes all the mags tell u

wise up

I agree with that, but 50g of protein is what my mom eats and she's a midget 4'11" Filipina. That's too low. I agree that you can eat more carbs and especially more fats to grow well, but 50g of protein is nothing. I don't suck back 1000g of "plotein" (kyomu... ) each day, but I can easily eat or drink 50g of protein in a sitting.

I've tinkered around with lower protein diets but I don't like going too far below 200g of protein each day. If it's QUALITY protein you're consuming then a gram per pound of lean bodymass will probably suffice. And no, I'm not posting with a piece of cold tilapia or chicken breast in a tupperware or ziplock bag. I'm not psycho but there are two polar extremes, with ultra low protein being more useless than ultra high protein.

[Harley Buckshot]

You don't have a clue what you are talking about Eugene sandow has as much muscle as one of Ronnies legs and every convict I've seen is fat, believe me there is roids in there too, and they do eat extra protein. Top pros eat large amounts of protein and when you figure this out then maybe you will have muscle too.

oh BROTHER... I love how all the bb's on here happen to "know" the minority of convicts that get juice. What a coincidence. THE vast MAJORITY of prisoners that are mean, BIG and fucking RIPPED do NOT have ANY access to juice give me a fucking break.

PROS yes of COURSE they must intake high amounts of protein as that is the mechanism of action for steroids.

[Harley Buckshot]

I agree with that, but 50g of protein is what my mom eats and she's a midget 4'11" Filipina. That's too low. I agree that you can eat more carbs and especially more fats to grow well, but 50g of protein is nothing. I don't suck back 1000g of "plotein" (kyomu... ) each day, but I can easily eat or drink 50g of protein in a sitting.

I've tinkered around with lower protein diets but I don't like going too far below 200g of protein each day. If it's QUALITY protein you're consuming then a gram per pound of lean bodymass will probably suffice. And no, I'm not posting with a piece of cold tilapia or chicken breast in a tupperware or ziplock bag. I'm not psycho but there are two polar extremes, with ultra low protein being more useless than ultra high protein.

So she works out extremely hard every day, eats 50g's, and just DOESNT happen to grow huh? either one or all of those statements is incorrect. Whats her regimen, and what is her diet? Dude, why is it that u "just dont like" going below 200? I gurantee u there is no fucking difference in muscle gain. its all MENTAL because uve read for so long "eat big to get big".

[dustin]

oh BROTHER... I love how all the bb's on here happen to "know" the minority of convicts that get juice. What a coincidence. THE vast MAJORITY of prisoners that are mean, BIG and fucking RIPPED do NOT have ANY access to juice give me a fucking break.

PROS yes of COURSE they must intake high amounts of protein as that is the mechanism of action for steroids.

Dbol, fina pellets, even injectables aren't impossible to get in prisons. But yeah, the prison comparison isn't fair. There's lifting for recreation and lifting not to get fucked in the ass and killed in your sleep. Plus they do fuck all, day-in, day-out, needless to say. No need to talk about prisons anyway because all of them are so varied, different dealers, different security levels, etc.