ASJcraptonit v. Avesher -- the cage match

[big L dawg]

it's a sad day when a complete moron can get in a guys head like this.

[big L dawg]

the funny part to all this is,.......he got out of the fight, didnt he?  I dont want money, I dont care about money--in black and white--but he tells you guys I am trying to scam you.  I will do this for free.  In fact:

I am poor--I am on government assistance.  I will give ASJ 500 dollars to do this with me and whatever he gets from you guys to do it is all his.  Get a fucking grip on here you guys.  I DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE MONEY. ITS MEANINGLESS.  mINDSPIN AND dANIELSON CAN GET HIS ADDRESS AND SEND IT STRAIGHT TO HIM

This is fucking black and white in print and you are reading it.  I dont want a dime.  I just want to fucking fight

fuck sakes since when is tring to fight someone so fucking complicated

someone better call a suicide hotline.

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Oh brother,

looks like the special olympics are coming early this year

[snx]

the funny part to all this is,.......he got out of the fight, didnt he?  I dont want money, I dont care about money--in black and white--but he tells you guys I am trying to scam you.  I will do this for free.  In fact:

I am poor--I am on government assistance.  I will give ASJ 500 dollars to do this with me and whatever he gets from you guys to do it is all his.  Get a fucking grip on here you guys.  I DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE MONEY. ITS MEANINGLESS.  mINDSPIN AND dANIELSON CAN GET HIS ADDRESS AND SEND IT STRAIGHT TO HIM

This is fucking black and white in print and you are reading it.  I dont want a dime.  I just want to fucking fight

fuck sakes since when is tring to fight someone so fucking complicated

You found him before at his gym at school -- pics prove it. Just go back there, wait for him to show, and when he does, pull him outside and fight. Seems simple enough to me. Why don't you just do that? If all you cared about was fighting him, that's all you'd do. No need to make posts about it. Just get to swinging. All this talking makes me think something smells fishy...

[nycbull]

OK, so you're saying he typed something and said it was from you?

"...if he typed something on here saying it was from me, then fine it is"

Well, is that a fake letter or is it 100% real? Your reactions are not denying, but not exactly admitting it as well. This makes it appear as if it is 100%, word-for-word, accurate.

take it easy dude, are you from bodybuilding.com?

[Soundness]

take it easy dude, are you from bodybuilding.com?

NO

[ahh.. fk]

Something is not right here. Out of the blue ASJ claims you said ...... and you have a meltdown of epic proportions???

Vesh dude you are looking guilty man. Why not send us your version of the original message. I want to believe you I really do.

[leonp1981]

I'm not sure it would be safe to put anyone in a ring with Avesher at the moment, he's taking this all way too seriously, and letting ASJ beat him psychologically.

I don't reckon this will take place, but if it does, I can easily see Avesher just jumping on ASJ and biting his nose off or some shit like that.  And the chance of that actually happening means that ASJ won't get in the ring.

Avesher, mate, you need to go get some fresh air, hit the punchbag, whatever, cos you can't let this get to you so much.

[TrueGrit]

I am poor--I am on government assistance.

 I thought you said that you refused to accept government handouts and supported yourself winning online poker tournaments?

 Look, seriously, it's clear that you were tempted to take Danielson's money and get a bit more. Just be honest that that's what you were doing.

No one will blame you for it bro as it's clear that your life situation is extremely difficult, financially and emotionally.

Seriously, people understand. Don't feed the negativity though, you need positivity, not fights with guys half your age.

[ASJChaotic]

Avesher.....
I wish you all the best
I hope that you can get your life on track
you shouldn't have taken getbig so seriously
it's the internet, threatening to actually kill somebody because they talk on a message board is the opposite of logical
I would have honestly left you alone if you had left me alone, and I would have kept your secret without telling ANYBODY
had you not posted, you sent the email first ( I didn't tell people, you, yourself did, all I did was turn it down and keep quiet )

again, I wish you the best in your future, I really hope you meet a nice woman, settle down and have a couple of kids,
get your mental illness under control and enjoy life 

[chaos]

I didn't read all this, but what I'm getting is that ASJ faked a PM from avesher in order to get out of fighting him.

Is that close or what?

[bodybuildermdpitt]

Avesher, relax take it easy and do not do anything to jeapordize your future. Go see your doctor as soon as possible. Take your dose of daily meds and go straight to hospital if you feel like you can't control yourself.

[leonp1981]

I didn't read all this, but what I'm getting is that ASJ faked a PM from avesher in order to get out of fighting him.

Is that close or what?

Not sure if it was faked, Avesher melted a bit and wouldn't confirm or deny it?  Either way, he doesn't seem to be in a good frame of mind right now.

[windsor88]

JEEZZUS...I don't know what to think or decide. 









Fuck it I'll have the Apple Jacks.

[Soundness]

I thought you said that you refused to accept government handouts and supported yourself winning online poker tournaments?

 Look, seriously, it's clear that you were tempted to take Danielson's money and get a bit more. Just be honest that that's what you were doing.

No one will blame you for it bro as it's clear that your life situation is extremely difficult, financially and emotionally.

Seriously, people understand. Don't feed the negativity though, you need positivity, not fights with guys half your age.

Exactly. It's safe to say we all like Avesher. This is not really that big of a deal; just say it was wrong, that it was momentary thinking, then move on. It doesn't matter. This is not some serious shit. It would just make him feel better to come clean and clear everything up. If he was wrong and admits it, he'll get props for having the strength and courage to do so.

(Chaos, if you really want to find out, just read the last few pages.)

ASJ, your response shows a lot of class and character. Respect.

[chaos]

Exactly. It's safe to say we all like Avesher. This is not really that big of a deal; just say it was wrong, that it was momentary thinking, then move on. It doesn't matter. This is not some serious shit. It would just make him feel better to come clean and clear all the bullshit up.

(Chaos, if you really want to find out, just read the last few pages.)

ASJ, your response shows a lot of class and character. Respect.

I think by ASJ posting that pic in his response, he is mocking avesher.

Fact of the matter is avesher would destroy that skinny twink, no matter what "soundness" says.

[ASJChaotic]

I think by ASJ posting that pic in his response, he is mocking avesher.

Fact of the matter is avesher would destroy that skinny twink, no matter what "soundness" says.

by posting a clap? you like it now? 

[Soundness]

I think by ASJ posting that pic in his response, he is mocking avesher.

Fact of the matter is avesher would destroy that skinny twink, no matter what "soundness" says.

I think by ASJ posting that pic in his response, he is mocking avesher.

Fact of the matter is avesher would destroy that skinny twink, no matter what "soundness" says.

We're far past all of that at this point, Chaos. Actually, what I said in this thread is true, it's based on practical, consistent facts of real-world fighting, and those involved need to consider the information. That includes those encouraging it.

Being a "twink" is an advantage, if you have exceptional strength to size ratio; Bruce Lee is a "twink." Being "bigger" is a disadvantage relative to strength. Reach is a critical factor. ASJ is likely to have learned how to fight well and likely has a high strength-to-size ratio. We've already been through this shit, I don't want to run through it again. Now we're dealing with the fact that Avesher said he's done with Getbig. We hope not.

We all like Avesher and want him to keep posting.

[chaos]

by posting a clap? you like it now? 

You're awfully quiet to night.

[TrueGrit]

Chaos, on a serious note dude..I don't know how well you know Avesher but now might be a good time for you to shoot him an email or give him a call. He really did seem to be at a low ebb ...not just internet stuff, serious probs.

[chaos]

Chaos, on a serious note dude..I don't know how well you know Avesher but now might be a good time for you to shoot him an email or give him a call. He really did seem to be at a low ebb ...not just internet stuff, serious probs.

He's playing his game how he wants to play it.

[SS]

Avsh just go take care of this

[danielson]

Avsh just go take care of this

Absolutely, by falsifying emails he has shamed you. That is crossing the line.

[SS]

Absolutely, by falsifying emails he has shamed you. That is crossing the line.

Plus this little cock junkie was sending me pm's talking shit about tank tank.........I feel sorry for this kid.

I think we'll be reading about this one sunday morning.

[nzmusclemonster]

I'm sick of this cunt as well. I hope avesher films when he fucks up this asshole and I will watch that footage every night for the rest of my life.