Ok, I Gave Him a Chance

[dr.chimps]

Threads like this ALWAYS bring out the true character of liberals.

LOL. You mean like crypto-Conservatives and their anti-abortion/pro-death penalty broken moral compass thingy?    

[Ursus]

To me this is a baby. 22 weeks

[The_Leafy_Bug]

If i wasnt raised cathoic i would still disagree. To be honest before we done about abortion in school my views already were it was wrong.

Abortion is not a catholic/protestant issue in Ireland believe it or not. It just ahppens that the Catholic church is a large powerful and vocal opponent of it

The Catholic Church has a long running history of being correct on the issues. 

[QuakerOats]

To me this is a baby. 22 weeks

it ain't a baby until it's OUT OF THE PUSSSY, period.

[Ursus]

I'm still waiting for an answer, Goudy


Do you think it's ok for a country to refuse aid because they don't agree with another country's policy on abortion?

sorry. I am not too sure on what you mean. can you clarify lol sorry.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

LOL. You mean like crypto-Conservatives and their anti-abortion/pro-death penalty broken moral compass thingy?    

Funny thing is Coach doesn't know the history of Neoconservatism and that is was started by Trotskyists.

[Ursus]

The Catholic Church has a long running history of being correct on the issues. 

The church is vocal on its opinion. Similar as you are vocal on yours.

You brough up catholicism on this thread. Not me.

Before i read or learned or was shown about it i disagreed with it.

[spinnis]

I would be a dad if it wans't for abortion so thank god for that.

[Ursus]

I would be a dad if it wans't for abortion so thank god for that.

was the girl def pregnant? did you pay for it?

was it a scam?

Onlyme i remember said he paid for 3 abortions, years later someone said maybe it was a scam just for him to pay lol He remembers being raging for paying out 1800 dollars lol

This is off topic but funny i thought.

[dr.chimps]

Funny thing is Coach doesn't know the history of Neoconservatism and that is was started by Trotskyists.

Ruuuuuuskies!? That'll have Coach waking up screaming in the night. Might even throw off his golf game.  

[Ursus]

it ain't a baby until it's OUT OF THE PUSSSY, period.

what if a baby is born premature at 22 weeks. Is it a baby then?

[tleilaxutank]

sorry. I am not too sure on what you mean. can you clarify lol sorry.

Not a problem.  Coach's original post is about how angry he is that Obama reversed a ban for aid (money, food, medicine etc.) that Bush has imposed on any aid relief group that does not agree up front that they will not perform abortions.  They literally cannot even provide information on abortion under any circumstances.

Do you think its right to not fund non-profit groups that might also perform abortions or even counsel young women about abortion in addition to feeding starving children, curing them of diseases etc?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Ruuuuuuskies!? That'll have Coach waking up screaming in the night. Might even throw off his golf game.  

He should read a little bit of Francis Fukuyama but he is too stupid to read. Talk radio is his main source of knowledge. I think all those years of cocaine and meth use destroyed his brain.

[dr.chimps]

He should read a little bit of Francis Fukuyama but he is too stupid to read. Talk radio is his main source of knowledge. I think all those years of cocaine and meth use destroyed his brain.

Ah, The End of History. Remember that from a grad class years ago. He kinda didn't get that right, did he? 

[The_Leafy_Bug]

To me this is a baby. 22 weeks

No one said abortion was aesthetic. It is a hard decision that couples or single women have to endure. It isn't like someone wakes up one day thrilled and says "Hey! Im going to get an abortion!". You don't know the full story behind this photo. The baby might have had a defective heart.

[QuakerOats]

what if a baby is born premature at 22 weeks. Is it a baby then?

at 22 weeks the baby has very little chance of living a normal life anyway, why prolong the torture for everyone involved?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Ah, The End of History. Remember that from a grad class years ago. He kinda didn't get that right, did he? 

Im not speaking of the End of History. I am speaking about America at a Crossroads and he makes an excellent argument at where America should be headed. He realized that Bush and his cronies were pissing people off around the world and jumped ship. He made the right decision voting for Obama.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Not to worry. obama can't order as many babies killed with a scalpel, as bush did with napalm.

[tbombz]

To me this is a baby. 22 weeks

thats almost third trimester...abortions are first trimester...nobodies saying to wait untill they are developed...  

[The_Leafy_Bug]

thats almost third trimester...abortions are first trimester...nobodies saying to wait untill they are developed...  

But you have to understand.... that's what he "believes". I am so sick and tired of people saying what they "believe" or feel. Why not state facts?

[stormshadow]

was the girl def pregnant? did you pay for it?

was it a scam?

Onlyme i remember said he paid for 3 abortions, years later someone said maybe it was a scam just for him to pay lol He remembers being raging for paying out 1800 dollars lol

This is off topic but funny i thought.

That is BS, we all know that Onlyme is too fat to be able to have sex  

[Eyeball Chambers]

You don't condemn torture or putting people into secret prisons without trail, yet you want to strip women of a very important civil liberty.

It's like Kiwiol said. A mother plays host to a fetus and if she doesn't want to bear the sacrifice, then no one should force her.

I know rational thinking isn't your strong point, you useless midget, but try and understand.

Good post, especially the part in red. HAHA

[tbombz]

ill fry up that 22 week fetus and eat with with some kc masterpiece...

[bigdumbbell]

The Catholic Church has a long running history of being correct on the issues. 

the head of the catholic church is a drag queen

[Ursus]

Not a problem.  Coach's original post is about how angry he is that Obama reversed a ban for aid (money, food, medicine etc.) that Bush has imposed on any aid relief group that does not agree up front that they will not perform abortions.  They literally cannot even provide information on abortion under any circumstances.

Do you think its right to not fund non-profit groups that might also perform abortions or even counsel young women about abortion in addition to feeding starving children, curing them of diseases etc?

To be honest i never read all the original post i just commented on abortion before this escalated. I dont know nor understand much about US politics.

Ok this is my opinion and i am not god or anything like that. Ill try to answer as best i can since you have been patiant etc with me.

I do think we should fund the organisations and also stop abortions and not actively fund abortion groups.

HOWEVER, in places where we have no control or say or influence, e.g africa where abortions may be carried out in dirty alleys or makeshift houses (this happens) with crude unsanitary implements coathangers(this happens ) and where they will always contine then at least they should be performed at the very m,inimum in clean hospiutals funded by the same organisations that are providing the food shelter immunisations etc. If they are going to be done at least should be done safely with the benefit of helping the others.

I do agree that information should be provided and there are care homes set up by e.g catholic church where women opt out of abortion and have the child before giving it up for adoption. In a clean safehouse run by nurses and nuns e.g They should also try to educate as much as possible

Once the child has been aborted there is no bringing it back

I am sure i have left stuff out. Does this make sense. Its a huge issue with so many variables etc...hard to decide