Why no High Intensity Cardio for State Level Bodybuilders

[Relentless]

In terms of intensity, areobic classes are far more like your hour on the treadmill than they are proper high-intensity interval training.  Most people in "aerobic classes" would pass out trying to do HIIT. 

On point!

[G o a t b o y]

ill never do high intensity cardio because i like lifting weights and big muscles... i do not like sprinting or running....and i can get lean fast enough with out doing them... i like bodyBUILDING...not bodyMAKINGSMALLER... and not track and field....  

Yeah, but you're a fag who takes dick up the ass.   

[Has Beens]

I started using HIIT for my upcoming show and came down WAY to fast and started to sacrifice some size. I stopped and went back to low intensity AM and PM and luckily have had time to get back on track. It works, but I would stay away from it as a bodybuilder unless you are way behind and no other real options.

[tbombz]

There is no reason what so ever to not do HIIT for bodybuilding.

what about...... NOT WANTING TO ?   absolutely unnecessary for getting lean.

[Relentless]

Sure there is....it's called  keeping as much muscle on your frame as possible

Bob, have you personally ever given HIIT a fair shot or just dismissed it without trying it?

[Relentless]

Yeah, but you're a fag who takes dick up the ass.   

Tbombz is a guy who perpetuates the stereotypical meathead.  He's not to be taken seriously by anyone with an IQ north of 90.

[The Coach]

Techno Viking, FYI sprinters ARE lifting a ton of weight, rule of thumb for track and field is speed starts in the weight room.

[Relentless]

I started using HIIT for my upcoming show and came down WAY to fast and started to sacrifice some size. I stopped and went back to low intensity AM and PM and luckily have had time to get back on track. It works, but I would stay away from it as a bodybuilder unless you are way behind and no other real options.

So....HIIT will burn fat very quickly?  Sounds like it works!

[Chick]

Bob, have you personally ever given HIIT a fair shot or just dismissed it without trying it?

I've tried it all over 30 years...and have seen more than my share of others and their preps

[TechnoViking]

Techno Viking, FYI sprinters ARE lifting a ton of weight, rule of thumb for track and field is speed starts in the weight room.

Thanks Coach

[tbombz]

Tbombz is a guy who perpetuates the stereotypical meathead.  He's not to be taken seriously by anyone with an IQ north of 90.

ahahahah!  lets see a screen shot from your iq test, mr einstein 

[TechnoViking]

Can someone explain to me why Speed Ice skater quads would blow away most everyone in bodybuilding who isn't at the national level/pro level? Are their quads being built in the weight room or on the ice rink in HIT type training?

[Has Beens]

So....HIIT will burn fat very quickly?  Sounds like it works!

It does work, but size will be sacrificed as well. It sounded appealing so I gave it a try and it was not for me.

[The Coach]

"Not wanting too" = LAZY

Necessary, through research and training experiance....it IS necessary!

[tbombz]

"Not wanting too" = LAZY

Necessary, through research and training experiance....it IS necessary!

no, not necessary. millions of people have gotten absolutely fucking shredded WITHOUT high intensity cardio.

[swilkins1984]

So....HIIT will burn fat very quickly?  Sounds like it works!

Yeah it works but are you willing to lose 2 lbs of muscle to lose 5 lbs of fat or will you add more lower intensity and probably keep the muscle? At a low level you need ever bit of muscle you have.

[Relentless]

I've tried it all over 30 years...and have seen more than my share of others and their preps

I disagree with you about the effectiveness of HIIT cardio.  I just don't think enough people have tried it to dismiss it so readily.  I think the major reason why people don't try it is because IT HURTS!  

By the way, I met you at the 2004 Nats in Dallas when Chris Cook turned pro and a fight almost broke out in the audience.  You were a real gent and chatted me up at the BB.com booth for a few minutes.  Glad to see you've made some good money from the sport.  It's unfortunate we don't have more people like you in BBing these days.

[Chick]

Believe me...If bodybuilders thought they could get the same results doing 20 minutes of cardio (HIIT) as opposed to 1 hr of slow...they would trade it in a minute

[Relentless]

ahahahah!  lets see a screen shot from your iq test, mr einstein 

FYI - I don't take IQ tests online; they are mostly BS.  I've taken a real test and scored in the low 130s.  Not a genius, but enough intellectual capital to be dangerous.

[TechnoViking]

I started using HIIT for my upcoming show and came down WAY to fast and started to sacrifice some size. I stopped and went back to low intensity AM and PM and luckily have had time to get back on track. It works, but I would stay away from it as a bodybuilder unless you are way behind and no other real options.

Did you win your show? And if not, was it because of your legs?  Did you have striations upon striations in your quads when doing HIT or did you just stop because of weight?

[Chick]

I disagree with you about the effectiveness of HIIT cardio.  I just don't think enough people have tried it to dismiss it so readily.  I think the major reason why people don't try it is because IT HURTS!  

By the way, I met you at the 2004 Nats in Dallas when Chris Cook turned pro and a fight almost broke out in the audience.  You were a real gent and chatted me up at the BB.com booth for a few minutes.  Glad to see you've made some good money from the sport.  It's unfortunate we don't have more people like you in BBing these days.

Thanks for the props...

As for disagreeing, you're entitled to...but there is a reason EVERY top BB I've ever known, does slow cardio.  as for hurting....trust me, an hour straight 2X a day is no picnic...especially on low carbs

[Relentless]

Believe me...If bodybuilders thought they could get the same results doing 20 minutes of cardio (HIIT) as opposed to 1 hr of slow...they would trade it in a minute

Eddie Robinson used it!  He was a guy who wasn't afraid of busting his ass...

I think its more of a work ethic problem than anything based on actual empirical evidence.  

[tbombz]

FYI - I don't take IQ tests online; they are mostly BS.  I've taken a real test and scored in the low 130s.  Not a genius, but enough intellectual capital to be dangerous.

wow! thats an above average score. you must feel pretty good knowing that youve got better cognitive abilites than the average joe.  



so you would estimate mine to be lower than 90, then?  

[ASJChaotic]

Sprinting is a pain in the ass, I know because I used to be a sprinter
and sprinters aren't lean because of sprinting, they keep their bodyfat that low via diet also 

[The Master]

Eddie Robinson used it!  He was a guy who wasn't afraid of busting his ass...

I think its more of a work ethic problem than anything based on actual empirical evidence.  

Real HIT cardio = super hard. Tabata on the running track hurts like hell, and not many people = in good enough shape to reap max benefit from it.