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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #150 on: May 12, 2009, 03:07:05 AM »
An unnecessarily cruel death.  Of course animals get killed all the time, in slaughterhouses and in the wild, but none of them suffer for 12 hours.  Even primitive hunters would have made the animal's death much quicker and they would have had some reverence for the animal.  I see no evidence of reverence on her part, just ego gratification.

Isn't there some sort of 'hunter's code' about making a quick clean kill and how a prolonged death is a bad thing?  I bet the locals thought she was a piece of shit for asking all night long 'Is it dead yet?'

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2009, 03:11:50 AM »
Of course animals get killed all the time, in slaughterhouses and in the wild, but none of them suffer for 12 hours.

I agree.. that is needless. 12 hours?

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #152 on: May 12, 2009, 03:15:42 AM »
I agree.. that is needless. 12 hours?

I'm guessing it wasn't dusk when she shot it, so who can say.

It staggered 500 yards before it collapsed, then she left it to die overnight.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #153 on: May 12, 2009, 03:17:03 AM »
she's still a whore

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #154 on: May 12, 2009, 03:19:02 AM »
maybe old news but
anyone heard about the american whore who shot an elephant dead with a bow?


American Kills Elephant With Bow For A Bet

2:12pm UK, Thursday May 07, 2009
An American woman has slaughtered an elephant with a bow and arrow... to win a bet.

 

The Texas-born hunter killed the elephant with a single shot


Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman was so proud, she posted pictures on the internet showing her beaming beside her kill in Zimbabwe.

The 39-year-old huntress said she crept into a herd of 37 elephants, knelt down, and shot the grand creature from just 12 yards.

It staggered 500 yards before it collapsed, then she left it to die overnight.

Ms Groenewald-Hagerman is the first woman known to have killed an elephant with a bow and arrow.

The Kansas-born woman slaughtered the animal to win a bet with a male friend who said she would be unable to pull the heavy bow required.

For eight months she worked out for four hours a day so she could pull a £450 PSE X Force bow.

The lethal weapon has a 'draw weight' of 90lb - more than twice the amount pulled by female olympic archers.

 
Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman


On the hunting website Hunts of a Lifetime Ms Groenewald-Hagerman wrote: "A man by the name of Larry, who is a videographer for Orion Multi Media, bet me I couldn't shoot a buffalo or elephant with a bow.

"He indicated only one or two women had completed the buffalo with a bow and no woman had ever taken an elephant with a bow. Of course, I couldn't turn down the challenge."

The blonde has received praise from other hunters in online posts.

One blogger on texasbowhunter.com described her as: "Stunning looking, and a (sic) avid hunter.

"Her shot was made at 12 yards and the Bull traveled (sic) 500 yards before going down. 500 African Villagers were fed with the meat from the Bull.:) (sic)", Africanbowhunter said.

Another called BO-N-ARO wrote: "12 yards!!! I bet they had a great blood trail because of the low entry!! She had to have been shooting UP! That has to be one of the best examples of setting a goal and working hard to achieve it!"

The last person known to have killed an elephant with a bow was a man called Howard Hill, 60 years ago. It has rarely been attempted since.

Hunting elephants for sport is not illegal in some parts of Africa and many tour companies allow tourists to join organised hunting trips.


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Elephant-Shot-With-Bow-And-Arrow-American-Huntress-Teressa-Groenewald-Hagerman-Killed-It-For-A-Bet/Article/200905115277040





what is wrong with people?
the things i would do with that little punk.

Pathetic. You could kill anything with a big enough weapon. Lame as you like.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #155 on: May 12, 2009, 03:23:00 AM »
I'm not really one to take cheap shots, but she looks a little crosseyed.  She was probably aiming for the next one over.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #156 on: May 12, 2009, 03:24:18 AM »
Of course animals get killed all the time, in slaughterhouses and in the wild, but none of them suffer for 12 hours. 

Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #157 on: May 12, 2009, 03:34:42 AM »
Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.

I confess that I don't know much about it (and that I'm not too keen on watching the vids), but I'm under the impression that slaughterhouse animals suffer from discomfort and generally shitty conditions but the death itself is very quick.  So they suffer too, but not from a mortal wound.  I could be wrong but I would think the slaughterhouse would kill 'em quick in the interest of efficiency.

Fwiw, I buy free range stuff whenever possible.  I like to think that the bird, beast, or fish had a chance for some good times before getting sent down the chute. 

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #158 on: May 12, 2009, 03:38:10 AM »
For me it just boils down to preventing unnecessary suffering, whether in the slaughterhouse or on a hunt. 

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #159 on: May 12, 2009, 06:28:06 AM »
Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.

YEAH, I CAN'T WATCH MORE THAN 2 MINS OF THAT SHIT !!

I want to call in an air-strike when I see those vids. :'(
The whole killing an animal swiftly, & with dignity, while thanking the God's for this offering, also the animal for allowing you to take his life to further your own, is the way to go 'IMO' 'native Americans' had this idea down !!

For me it just boils down to preventing unnecessary suffering, whether in the slaughterhouse or on a hunt. 

As I just said.
.  So they suffer too, but not from a mortal wound.  I could be wrong but I would think the slaughterhouse would kill 'em quick in the interest of efficiency.
 

You are, try watching a few of them "meet your meat' is a good one  :-X :-X :-X
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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #160 on: May 12, 2009, 06:43:18 AM »
im not against eating meat but i am against the excesive meat consumption in our culture, the mac donald culture, dont get me wrong i love it but if anyone would eat a little less big improvements would be made, everything has to be as cheap as possible and the only one who suffers because of it is the poor animal and his living conditions. and dont get me started on the criminal production of foie gras.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #161 on: May 12, 2009, 06:52:15 AM »
im not against eating meat but i am against the excesive meat consumption in our culture, the mac donald culture, dont get me wrong i love it but if anyone would eat a little less big improvements would be made, everything has to be as cheap as possible and the only one who suffers because of it is the poor animal and his living conditions. and dont get me started on the criminal production of foie gras.


Eventually humans will be able to make meat without slaughtering a living animal.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #162 on: May 12, 2009, 08:01:15 AM »
Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.

i had you pegged as a humanitarium kiwiol

there is a diference between eating farm reared meat

and killing a wild animal for a bet

the animal was left to die slowly over night

bitch is an idiot
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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #163 on: May 12, 2009, 08:04:10 AM »
i had you pegged as a humanitarium kiwiol

there is a diference between eating farm reared meat

and killing a wild animal for a bet

the animal was left to die slowly over night

bitch is an idiot

Like I said, I am not happy about it nor do I think she's great or anything. Just pointing out how shit like that happens everyday all over the world. I've seen worse stuff mate and most probably, so have you. You become desensitized to things when you witness things that are much worse than game hunting, be it with a gun or a bow & arrow.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #164 on: May 12, 2009, 08:08:13 AM »
Like I said, I am not happy about it nor do I think she's great or anything. Just pointing out how shit like that happens everyday all over the world. I've seen worse stuff mate and most probably, so have you. You become desensitized to things when you witness things that are much worse than game hunting, be it with a gun or a bow & arrow.

bottom line is

she needs a healthy portion of cock to chill her out
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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #165 on: May 12, 2009, 08:12:01 AM »
Like I said, I am not happy about it nor do I think she's great or anything. Just pointing out how shit like that happens everyday all over the world. I've seen worse stuff mate and most probably, so have you. You become desensitized to things when you witness things that are much worse than game hunting, be it with a gun or a bow & arrow.

Great post. No one usually wants to see an animal like that killed, but at least they fed the 500 pounds of meat to people who were hungry instead of leaving it there and stealing it's tusks or other parts to just make a fast dollar.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #166 on: May 12, 2009, 08:15:03 AM »
bottom line is

she needs a healthy portion of cock to chill her out

No arguments there ;D

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #167 on: May 12, 2009, 08:18:32 AM »
Great post. No one usually wants to see an animal like that killed, but at least they fed the 500 pounds of meat to people who were hungry instead of leaving it there and stealing it's tusks or other parts to just make a fast dollar.

so she should get a reward?

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #168 on: May 12, 2009, 08:26:55 AM »
Fact is she is from a 1st world country so she had no fucking excuse to be killing animals and letting them die slowly for 12 hours just so she could win a bet with some other fuckwit.If its a matter of survival for some 3rd world starving family then sure you do what needs to be done.

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #169 on: May 12, 2009, 09:06:32 AM »
Read - farmers crops, wanker.

So who stopped the Elephants over running the eco-system in the 1000's of years before the first Whites in Africa ?? take your time, no rush.
I will not wait/hold my breath.

As people, we have taken upon ourselves the 'right' to live pretty much wherever we please.  That's the reality we have to accept.  The animals haven't proven they are capable of knowing how to orchestrate all the elements of a balanced co-existence and even though we may not always employ it, humans do have that capacity. 

We all have to make compromises, even the elephants. 

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #170 on: May 12, 2009, 09:50:58 AM »
Who said they derive pleasure? you keep typing this , when a hunter killed they had a celebration the tribe would survive and flourish there was cause to celebrate . she's proud she accomplished her objective and in the end the carcass didn't go to waste I bet those hungry Africans took great pleasure in eating are they wrong?

She hunted the elephant not because the need food.  She hunted the elephant because she derived pleasure from killing it.  You see nothing wrong with deriving pleasure from the misery of another? 
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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #171 on: May 12, 2009, 09:54:04 AM »
A lot of pussies lurking around getbig it appears. I would think taking pleasure in hunting an animal would be something inherent in many of us. Obviously back when we were hunter/gathers a lot of pleasure was derived from killing an animal for food, but now we need to feel bad that we killed it, but can still enjoy eating it of course  ;)

The pleasure in hunting and the celebration that followed was understandable.  They needed to do it in order to survive.  They were celebrating survival, not the killing of the animal.  There is no reason for this lady to hunt, other than deriving pleasure from killing.
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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #172 on: May 12, 2009, 10:00:58 AM »
I agree. I bet half the guys here who are crying at the "injustice" don't give a second thought about the poor, defenseless cow that was slaughtered, to be made into the burger they eat or the chicken that was slaughtered to be made into the drumstick they like. It's cruel to kill an animal, but basically, it's a form of life and is no different than felling a tree or fishing.

As for NYC who says that animal populations can't go out of control due to "natural balance" - those are words spoken by someone who is totally ignorant of Ecology. There are tons of recorded cases of various animals and plants and even algal species that grow to an extent that made/make it impossible for competing species to thrive, as a result of which they died/die out. In a lot of those cases, the whole ecosystem's food chain and biological profile undergoes massive changes and extinction of species have occurred cause they no longer had the resources they needed due to the over-dominant organism consuming it all.

Don't make up generic statements about things like "natural balance" just because it sounds more romantic and benign. Nature is just as cruel as humans can be.

it's okay to kill to eat.  it's not okay to kill for fun.  Don't you get it?
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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #173 on: May 12, 2009, 10:06:35 AM »
OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.

Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.

ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.

Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.

"a little crass" ?????   She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!

Dude,

Hello McFly!! Many of the game sanctuary's in Africa run the risk of Elephant over population and either relocate (when possible) or cull the herd of a few animals. Why don't you look up the amount of food it takes to sustain just 1 elephant in a day. A large herd can destroy several acres of vegetation in a few days. They can and they do overpopulate a give area. Remember many of these preserves are thousands of acres but are surrounded by high fences to keep poachers out.

PS you shoot the arrow not the bow  :D

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Re: Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet
« Reply #174 on: May 12, 2009, 10:12:59 AM »
it's okay to kill to eat.  it's not okay to kill for fun.  Don't you get it?

Sure. In this case, the meat did feed 500 people as the article mentions and again, I'm not cheering for her - just saying game hunting has been around for as long as we have and happens on a much larger and widespread scale than that one incident.