The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007

[The True Adonis]

hahah you idiots. OF COURSE YOU EAT LESS when dieting for a contest.

1500-2000 caloires versus a normal intake for gaining.

No wonder why Mike got 3rd and first if you think you don`t eat less when dieting.  The object is to create a calorie defecit. hahahahahahah  Monster misunderstanding of how to diet.

[dorkeroo]

240, I think part of the reason people are defensive when you post even positive things is that we have all seen too much instigation and quite a few backhanded compliments from you in the past.

As for Adonis and some of the other people on this board, the reason they are being ignored is because arguing with them is like asking a bear to shit in a toilet. They have room temperature IQ's, but, believe otherwise. It gives me a headache to read Adam's posts on here. He isn't educated in science beyond a starter's chemistry set, but thinks he knows everything about everything there is to know. Ignoring him and the other people like him on here is the only thing a normal person can do to stay sane.

You come across as a smart guy, just maybe a little too arrogant for someone who has never stepped on a bodybuilding stage and made bullshit claims about weightlifting. You asked why people respond so emotionally to you and I think the reason is that you don't appear to be trustworthy when it comes to other peoples' lives. You go far and beyond "keeping things on GetBig" and have done your fair share of trying to ruin the lives of several people on here. You aren't innocent. If you are anything like this in person, I wouldn't want to be around you. You seem to want to throw people under a bus to get ahead.

Nothing personal, I do think you have your moments where you are funny, but, you don't seem to be genuine on here. Always seem to be looking for a chance to tear people down.

[LLES]

hahah you idiots. OF COURSE YOU EAT LESS when dieting for a contest.

1500-2000 caloires versus a normal intake for gaining.

No wonder why Mike got 3rd and first if you think you don`t eat less when dieting.  The object is to create a calorie defecit. hahahahahahah  Monster misunderstanding of how to diet.

You really are that stupid,aren't you?

[The True Adonis]

You really are that stupid,aren't you?

No. but it looks like you,Mike and Laura are.

[dorkeroo]

You really are that stupid,aren't you?

No he is stupider. Honestly, try to ignore it. I am 50% sure he has someone read the posts on here to him because I don't think literacy is his strong suit.

[LLES]

Good comeback,good thing your girl was near by, it would have taken you about 10 more minutes to come up with that one by yourself.

[dorkeroo]

You can't lose weight without a calorie deficit. 

If you're claiming you can, you have somehow managed to get around the laws of thermodynamics, and I imagine you'll be on your way to Stockholm pick up your Nobel Prize shortly. 

Trying to simplify metabolism in preparation for a bodybuilding show is not just a simple caloric deficit question.

[gracie bjj]

i find it funny how all the negative comments come from guys who never even been on a stage posing in front of a crowd,the guys that give decent resposnes probably competed before or are just people that understand and can appreciate what mike had to go through and the sacrafices he had to endure to get that 3rd place spot,its always the guys that never competed that are the first ones to critisize someone who had the balls to go onstage and do it and not just post pictures on this website claiming this and that.mike just stepped up and made his dream a reality instead of living in a fantasy world like some dudes on these boards,good going mike.

[Laura Lee]

hahah you idiots. OF COURSE YOU EAT LESS when dieting for a contest.

1500-2000 caloires versus a normal intake for gaining.

No wonder why Mike got 3rd and first if you think you don`t eat less when dieting.  The object is to create a calorie defecit. hahahahahahah  Monster misunderstanding of how to diet.

Adam, all flaming aside, yes you do have to take in a certain amount of calories to drop in weight, but that is not how it is done for contest preparation.  Look at these photos of Michael. 



He achieved his fat loss (the point in contest prep) by eating more.  He consumed as many as 4,000 calories on some days and as low as 1,400 on others while eating "every" three hours and consuming a large amount of food.  Maybe you should ask other bodybuilders that have done contest prep what their contest diet consisted of.

[The True Adonis]

You can't lose weight without a calorie deficit. 

If you're claiming you can, you have somehow managed to get around the laws of thermodynamics, and I imagine you'll be on your way to Stockholm pick up your Nobel Prize shortly. 

hahahha so according to them, Mike must have gotten to be a fat whale by eating 300-750 calories a day by their logic.

Monster Calorie sensitivity. hahahahahah

[CQ]

Ummm....losing weight is basically a matter of calorie deficit. We can get all fancy with all the terms and techniques like carb cycling, but the basic premise is to create the overall calorie deficit in the first place....everything after that is secondary.

[The True Adonis]

Adam, all flaming aside, yes you do have to take in a certain amount of calories to drop in weight, but that is not how it is done for contest preparation.  Look at these photos of Michael. 



He achieved his fat loss (the point in contest prep) by eating more.  He consumed as many as 4,000 calories on some days and as low as 1,400 on others while eating "every" three hours and consuming a large amount of food.  Maybe you should ask other bodybuilders that have done contest prep what their contest diet consisted of.

He would have never gotten below 15 percent bodyfat by eating 4000 calories a day....It was the 1400 calorie days that did it and that is LESS than he was eating when he started.  You have to create a defecit.

[dorkeroo]

Ummm....losing weight is basically a matter of calorie deficit. We can get all fancy with all the terms and techniques like carb cycling, but the basic premise is to create the overall calorie deficit in the first place....everything after that is secondary.

Metabolism does not always change as one might think just eating less. Your body responds to starvation by slowing metabolism down in some cases. Please people stop trying to simplify something that is more complicated than just numbers.

Adonis you are a moron.

[The True Adonis]

Metabolism does not always change as one might think just eating less. Your body responds to starvation by slowing metabolism down in some cases. Please people stop trying to simplify something that is more complicated than just numbers.

Adonis you are a moron.

ROFLMAO. You must be fat.

[dorkeroo]

ROFLMAO. You must be fat.

You got me lol. Is that the best you can do? You're pathetic and if that is your best, I won't bother you anymore, I feel kinda bad I did it in the first place now.

Now go and rub two brain cells together, and come up with something original or mildly witty ok? I'll be back in a week to check on your progress. Now remember you don't have to write out every word in one sitting. Take your time ok? Don't want you to burn out or get discouraged 

[Jezebelle]

Well look at what he is saying Larry.  He thinks you eat less when you are dieting for contest. 

Cheri, you've made yourself look bad enough by posting nude pics on the internet, but now you're really making yourself look STUPID.  

Who else believes you have to eat MORE calories when dieting for a contest?  

[CQ]

Metabolism does not always change as one might think just eating less. Your body responds to starvation by slowing metabolism down in some cases. Please people stop trying to simplify something that is more complicated than just numbers.

Adonis you are a moron.

The calorie deficit is the main thing for weight loss. Everything else is secondary. This is really my last post on this subject, cause debating such a basic point like this is like embarrassing

[Laura Lee]

Cheri, you've made yourself look bad enough by posting nude pics on the internet, but now you're really making yourself look STUPID.  

Who else believes you have to eat MORE calories when dieting for a contest?  

Jes, what part of "not a flame" could you not read that you feel the need to talk about nude pics and me, this is regarding diet, not my nude pics.  Plus I NEVER said you have to eat MORE CALORIES, I just said you have to eat more (you can eat a lot of things high in protein, low in calories  ).  I also said Michael took in 4,000 on some days and only 1,400 on others. 

Please tell me something...honestly and unbias...does Michael look better in the first picture or the second picture? 

[Jezebelle]

i find it funny how all the negative comments come from guys who never even been on a stage posing in front of a crowd,the guys that give decent resposnes probably competed before or are just people that understand and can appreciate what mike had to go through and the sacrafices he had to endure to get that 3rd place spot,its always the guys that never competed that are the first ones to critisize someone who had the balls to go onstage and do it and not just post pictures on this website claiming this and that.mike just stepped up and made his dream a reality instead of living in a fantasy world like some dudes on these boards,good going mike.

Again with the "not allowed to make negative comments unless you've stepped on stage."  hahahaha  Why then are people allowed to make positive comments when they haven't been on stage?

[dorkeroo]

True.

Please explain how that changes the fact that in order to lose weight, you must run an overall calorie deficit?

What I am getting annoyed with here, is that people seem to be assuming that all foods are processed the same in the digestive system. If they are not then I apoligize, however my point is that calories, are not all equal and if a certain body type is desired, you can't just cut calories. It is a fine science. If it was easy we would not have so many obese people. I can't imagine it is fun to be fat.

Your body burns calories to burn protein, and responds very differently to simple sugars. People seem to be thinking it is just a simple thing and it is not. Your body WILL respond differently to 400 grams of protein than to 400 grams of sugar.

The metabolic processing of each food type that one is taking in must be accounted for. Your endocrinology is not something that you can just assume will respond to what you think it will respond to. It is complicated and big changes in diet can mess it up in unpredictable ways.

If this is inadequate, I will try to be more clear, but I hope it helps convey what I am trying to say here.

Cheers.

[thisiskeith12]

What I am getting annoyed with here, is that people seem to be assuming that all foods are processed the same in the digestive system. If they are not then I apoligize, however my point is that calories, are not all equal and if a certain body type is desired, you can't just cut calories. It is a fine science. If it was easy we would not have so many obese people. I can't imagine it is fun to be fat.

Your body burns calories to burn protein, and responds very differently to simple sugars. People seem to be thinking it is just a simple thing and it is not. Your body WILL respond differently to 400 grams of protein than to 400 grams of sugar.

The metabolic processing of each food type that one is taking in must be accounted for. Your endocrinology is not something that you can just assume will respond to what you think it will respond to. It is complicated and big changes in diet can mess it up in unpredictable ways.

If this is inadequate, I will try to be more clear, but I hope it helps convey what I am trying to say here.

Cheers.

Very well put

[Stavios]

MIKE !

having said that you looked great, I have to give you my toughts of you dieting process.

You were lean but I was shocked when I read that you were 198.5 lbs.

IMO, you lost a lot of muscle in the arms and lats departement. Hopefully, you will take it all back when you will eat normally.

LLES: What do you suggest to take care of that problem ?

[Jezebelle]

Jes, what part of "not a flame" could you not read that you feel the need to talk about nude pics and me, this is regarding diet, not my nude pics.  Plus I NEVER said you have to eat MORE CALORIES, I just said you have to eat more (you can eat a lot of things high in protein, low in calories  ).  I also said Michael took in 4,000 on some days and only 1,400 on others. 

Please tell me something...honestly and unbias...does Michael look better in the first picture or the second picture? 

Even in the offseason you should be eating 6-8 meals a day.  You make no sense.

[Jezebelle]

What I am getting annoyed with here, is that people seem to be assuming that all foods are processed the same in the digestive system. If they are not then I apoligize, however my point is that calories, are not all equal and if a certain body type is desired, you can't just cut calories. It is a fine science. If it was easy we would not have so many obese people. I can't imagine it is fun to be fat.

Your body burns calories to burn protein, and responds very differently to simple sugars. People seem to be thinking it is just a simple thing and it is not. Your body WILL respond differently to 400 grams of protein than to 400 grams of sugar.

The metabolic processing of each food type that one is taking in must be accounted for. Your endocrinology is not something that you can just assume will respond to what you think it will respond to. It is complicated and big changes in diet can mess it up in unpredictable ways.

If this is inadequate, I will try to be more clear, but I hope it helps convey what I am trying to say here.

Cheers.

No shit.

[Laura Lee]

Even in the offseason you should be eating 6-8 meals a day.  You make no sense.

What doesn't make sense?  And you didn't answer my question.