Brains really do matter in politics

[240 is Back]

So, you've seen Obama's college transcripts? You know he received good grades in school? You know he graduated? You know where he placed in his class? Please tell the rest of us where we can see these documents so we can verify for ourselves.

i know he has a law degree from harvard.

this has more value than a BS in journalism from 5 college.

Even if I haven't seen his report card.



I'm not saying O doesn't have questions, because he does.  I'm saying you repubs shouldn't cheerlead a dummy in 2012.  Pick a candidate who is brilliant.

[Soul Crusher]

i know he has a law degree from harvard.

this has more value than a BS in journalism from 5 college.

Even if I haven't seen his report card.



I'm not saying O doesn't have questions, because he does.  I'm saying you repubs shouldn't cheerlead a dummy in 2012.  Pick a candidate who is brilliant.

Sorry 240 - I'm too busy with work to take on that chore. 

[Fury]

So, you've seen Obama's college transcripts? You know he received good grades in school? You know he graduated? You know where he placed in his class? Please tell the rest of us where we can see these documents so we can verify for ourselves.

You have to be in the top 10% of your class to even stand a chance of editing the Harvard Law Review.

I deal with Ivy League types all the time.  Aside from the book smarts, they are usually clueless in terms of street smarts, common sense, and reality.     

You seem to have a problem with anyone who can be viewed as smarter than that moron Palin.

[Colossus_500]

I really really really wanted the GOP to run an awesome candidate (like a RP or someone better) in 2008.

Someone with the balls to admit to Americans that Bush fuct up a lot, and the brains to completely own the inexperienced and hapless Obama in the debates.

Instead we had the (R) ticket trying to cancel debates, then wandering in front of cameras like a lost old man during them.  And of course, kissing Bush's ass all the while.

I admit I was pretty bummed they ran such weak candidates.  And I'm scared they'll do it again in 2012, with all the palin worship.  Isn't there a better candidate to choose?

But you've not gone anywhere near as personal with McCain as you have with Palin??? 

Thanks for taking the time to explain your animosity toward her.   I still don't understand the intensity of it, but it's what you feel. 

[kcballer]

I deal with Ivy League types all the time.  Aside from the book smarts, they are usually clueless in terms of street smarts, common sense, and reality.     

I somewhat agree.  It's not just ivy league types but anyone who has suckled from the teet of academia too long can become disjointed with reality. 

[Soul Crusher]

I somewhat agree.  It's not just ivy league types but anyone who has suckled from the teet of academia too long can become disjointed with reality. 

The problem with academia is that they believe too much of their own nonsense.  The distortion of reality is made even worse by virtue of the fact that these professors have a captive audience of students with life experience and collegues who all share the same views and have an equal lack of real world experience. 

[kcballer]

The problem with academia is that they believe too much of their own nonsense.  The distortion of reality is made even worse by virtue of the fact that these professors have a captive audience of students with life experience and collegues who all share the same views and have an equal lack of real world experience. 

It is a very incestuous existence for a lot of them.  This is why i don't agree that Obama holds the same views or could even implement them.  Most get a real world wake up, the ones that don't heed this head back to the safety of university, and the ones that do change and mold to fit in and succeed accordingly. 

[Soul Crusher]

You have to be in the top 10% of your class to even stand a chance of editing the Harvard Law Review.

You seem to have a problem with anyone who can be viewed as smarter than that moron Palin.

Being book smart is not the same thing as having basic common sense and being in touch with reality.

Obama has book smarts too a fault because he sincerely believes that said book knowledge is an adequate substitute for real life experience, common sense, and reality.  

[240 is Back]

Being book smart is not the same thing as having basic common sense and being in touch with reality.

Obama has book smarts too a fault because he sincerely believes that said book knowledge is an adequate substitute for real life experience, common sense, and reality.   

to me - it appeared that palin had neither.

Q: Which newspapers and magazines do you read daily.
A: "All of them."

I'm sorry, but that's not the answer of a smart person.  it's just not.


2007/2008, I was so disgusted with the repub party, it wasn't funny.  Remember I voted Bush in 00 and 04.  I saw them doing nothing but praising bush and refusing to 'sack up' and bring some kinda change.  Instead it was just mitt and rudy screaming "youre a lib!" at each other for 6 months.

[Grape Ape]

to me - it appeared that palin had neither.

Q: Which newspapers and magazines do you read daily.
A: "All of them."

I'm sorry, but that's not the answer of a smart person.  it's just not.

That question was a trap and Palin knew it.  She just didn't give great answer to it.   If she answered it specifically, Couric would've asked specific follow-up questions to magazines listed in an attempt to make her out to be a liar.

And this is coming from someone who felt that Palin's nomination was a transparent, desperate move.  It's just that the criticism thrown her way was epic and unfair.

[Soul Crusher]

That question was a trap and Palin knew it.  She just didn't give great answer to it.   If she answered it specifically, Couric would've asked specific follow-up questions to magazines listed in an attempt to make her out to be a liar.

And this is coming from someone who felt that Palin's nomination was a transparent, desperate move.  It's just that the criticism thrown her way was epic and unfair.

I cant believe that 240 will bash Palin for a bad interview yet at the same time join the chorus of Obama
knee-padders who claim he is brilliant when he himself had almost equal flaps on the campaign trail.

The basic problem is that many people simply bought into the MSM propaganda spin machine that Obama was brilliant and Palin was dumb.  No matter what occured after that, these knee padders refused to see anything but their initial MSM fed poison.

Is Palin dumb? - No.

Is Obama brilliant? - No.

Neither are dumb.
Neither are brilliant. 

 

[George Whorewell]

This whole thread is completely based on 240's personal vendetta against Palin.

The argument that ivy leaguers are somehow better equipped to run the government is completely false.

[240 is Back]

mccain was just as bad - bottom 1% of his class and admitted he didn't know much about the economy.

I jsut wish repub voters would start clamoring for a candidate with the brains to fix this mess.

[Soul Crusher]

This whole thread is completely based on 240's personal vendetta against Palin.

The argument that ivy leaguers are somehow better equipped to run the government is completely false.

HA HA HA!!!!!!  

GW - GO WATCH "THE WARNING"

The brilliant Ive League geniuses :  CLINTON, BUSH, SUMMERS, RUBIN, GEITHNER, GREENSPAN completely did not understand what they were doing and are largely responsible for the mess we are in.  

if that is what the Ivy League produces, not to mention our Dear Leader, I really dont think this should be considered a good barometer of likely future success.

[George Whorewell]

 


Obama obivously knew " a lot " about the economy and Biden being expelled for cheating a few times has really come in handy during the past year.

You just wish that republican voters would clamor for someone with brains to fix this mess?

Who is this someone and where are they? Should the GOP hold an American Idol type search where random politicians audition in front of a live audience week after week and then the winner gets the 2012 nomination?

Maybe the GOP can limit the contestants to those with Phd's in rocket science so the 2012 nominees have "enough brains to fix this mess" for 240 or bust.

While we are at it, maybe the GOP can ask Obama and Biden to switch sides to the GOP and we can abolish the two party system so that the GOP has some "smart" people in charge who are doing a great job!

[Soul Crusher]

Obama obivously knew " a lot " about the economy and Biden being expelled for cheating a few times has really come in handy during the past year.

You just wish that republican voters would clamor for someone with brains to fix this mess?

Who is this someone and where are they? Should the GOP hold an American Idol type search where random politicians audition in front of a live audience week after week and then the winner gets the 2012 nomination?

Maybe the GOP can limit the contestants to those with Phd's in rocket science so the 2012 nominees have "enough brains to fix this mess" for 240 or bust.

While we are at it, maybe the GOP can ask Obama and Biden to switch sides to the GOP and we can abolish the two party system so that the GOP has some "smart" people in charge who are doing a great job!

This is whole I feel lately wth this admn and the level of debate we have where people who accuse doctors of stealing tonsils for money are "brilliant" and people who advoctate less government, domestic energy production, and personal freedom are considered "dumb".

[Fury]

to me - it appeared that palin had neither.

Q: Which newspapers and magazines do you read daily.
A: "All of them."

I'm sorry, but that's not the answer of a smart person.  it's just not.


2007/2008, I was so disgusted with the repub party, it wasn't funny.  Remember I voted Bush in 00 and 04.  I saw them doing nothing but praising bush and refusing to 'sack up' and bring some kinda change.  Instead it was just mitt and rudy screaming "youre a lib!" at each other for 6 months.

I agree. I don't get this shit. Palin has neither street smarts OR book smarts. This is the same dickhead that said she could see Russia from her doorstep. Street smarts? She has none.  

I spent two summers in the summer program for chemistry in one of the better Ivy League schools taking classes with all manner of Ivy Leaguers. They're not much different from anyone else. Sure there are the spoiled yuppie white kids but they're not as common as one would think. Most of the kids I've met were actually friendlier than the people at my school.

[Soul Crusher]

I agree. I don't get this shit. Palin has neither street smarts OR book smarts. This is the same dickhead that said she could see Russia from her doorstep. Street smarts? She has none. 

She never said that FOOL!  She said there are parts of Alaska where you can see the tip of Russia from the shores. 

When you only get your information from the butch Madcow and the limp dick Olbermann, I would expect you not to have known this. 

 

[Fury]

She never said that FOOL!  She said there are parts of Alaska where you can see the tip of Russia from the shores. 

When you only get your information from the butch Madcow and the limp dick Olbermann, I would expect you not to have known this. 

 

That's one quote. There are a million to choose from. 240 listed a nice one. The woman is a brain dead retard.

[Option D]

240 you have made this dumb ass argument 100 times and its flat out wrong. Joe Biden was thrown out of school for cheating not once, but twice and has all the brain power of a chipmunk. So please, lets calm down shall we--

McCain graduated from a military academy and then went directly into the armed forces. What fucking difference would it make if he graduated 1st or 100th? I think  surviving 5 years in a Vietnamese prison camp makes him a lot more palatable and on level with your average American than a prissy black, half muslim activist type who changed his name from Barry to Barrak and graduated from Harvard Law School during the 70's.

You just hate Palin. Which is fine. But your rationale for hating her should have nothing to do with her education and everything to do with her beliefs and intellect. Your overall argument fails miserably because our most recent president graduated from Yale-- and last I checked he was considered by most or all Americans to be the dumbest president in recent memory.

Jimmy Carter was extremely educated and is without a doubt the worst president we have had in the past 40 years. Ronald Regan was a B movie actor and turned out to be one of the best ever. Most Americans are not ivy league educated silver spoon sissys. Having a fancy degree from a 100k/ semester school doesn't mean jack shit.

 
 

How can you be half muslim???

[Soul Crusher]

That's one quote. There are a million to choose from. 240 listed a nice one. The woman is a brain dead retard.

Here is the actual clip.  Can we both agree that you made shit up that was factually incorrect?

[Fury]

Here is the actual clip.  Can we both agree that you made shit up that was factually incorrect?

Harp on the quote and not the message, which is that Palin is one of the stupidest people I've ever seen. I don't care if the leaders of this country went to an Ivy League school but I'd like for them to have gone somewhere respectable, like a top 100 university. Not jumping between five universities to get a journalism degree.  

[Soul Crusher]

Harp on the quote and not the message, which is that Palin is one of the stupidest people I've ever seen. I don't care if the leaders of this country went to an Ivy League school but I'd like for them to have gone somewhere respectable, like a top 100 university. Not jumping between five universities to get a journalism degree.  

This is the same dickhead that said she could see Russia from her doorstep.

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Again - were you making shit up because you hate her or because you an uninformed idiot who watches MSNBC for your news? 

 

[240 is Back]

it's sad.  you guys have to defend her.  you can't just say 'sure, she's not all that bright, but we have plenty of brilliant candidates to offer..."

instead, you have to just keep defending her mediocrity.

[George Whorewell]

How can you be half muslim???

Obama's father was a Muslim from Kenya was he not?