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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #400 on: April 06, 2011, 10:06:54 AM »
shittin me right?.. well i didnt know at the time she would have quit because she hadnt quit as gov yet. But she quit because she had a lot of pressure on her.. well as leader of the free world.. dont you think thats a bit more pressure? She would have quit as Mayor of a major city..

Ehh, its a valid argument i suppose.  But the responsibility she had as governor versus VP might have been so different that she wouldn't have let herself quit. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #401 on: April 06, 2011, 01:06:37 PM »
The truth hurts - doesnt it - 95% er.   

there's never ANY truth in ANYTHING you say..thats the problem

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #402 on: April 06, 2011, 01:09:36 PM »
there's never ANY truth in ANYTHING you say..thats the problem

Obama's lineage is not tradtional african american.  its arab and white.  You dopes who latched on to the fact that he has a shade of skin darker than than ofmccain are mostly gullible dupes for buying into the tailor made fraud that is obama. 


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #403 on: April 06, 2011, 01:27:18 PM »
Obama's lineage is not tradtional african american.  its arab and white.  You dopes who latched on to the fact that he has a shade of skin darker than than ofmccain are mostly gullible dupes for buying into the tailor made fraud that is obama. 



MY GOD..NOW you're saying that Obama is part Arab....Now I am starting to really believe that you are a gimmick created to just stir people up....NO ONE COULD BE THAT DUMB...ITS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE!!!!! :o

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #404 on: April 06, 2011, 01:29:55 PM »
MY GOD..NOW you're saying that Obama is part Arab....Now I am starting to really believe that you are a gimmick created to just stir people up....NO ONE COULD BE THAT DUMB...ITS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE!!!!! :o

Yes he is! 

Do some fucking research on this jerkioff andre.   He is not who you think he is.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #405 on: April 06, 2011, 02:10:30 PM »
Obama's lineage is not tradtional african american.  its arab and white. 


mccain told the cameras at a rally that obama was NOT an arab.

So Mccain was in on keeping this secret too?   ???

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #406 on: April 06, 2011, 02:20:03 PM »

mccain told the cameras at a rally that obama was NOT an arab.

So Mccain was in on keeping this secret too?   ???

I'm sure McCain researched this. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #407 on: April 06, 2011, 02:20:12 PM »
This thread is unreal.  

33333, you are unraveling yourself.  


So now, Obama is a Kenyan born of Arab decent?  And the Hawaiian state government is covering for him along with so many others?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #408 on: April 06, 2011, 02:24:26 PM »
This thread is unreal.  

33333, you are unraveling yourself.  


So now, Obama is a Kenyan born of Arab decent?  And the Hawaiian state government is covering for him along with so many others?
LOL.... IM LOVIN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #409 on: April 06, 2011, 02:27:15 PM »
I'm sure McCain researched this. 

getbig discussed this at great length.  mccain was asked about it.  All this birther stuff was out there.

Mccain and palin must be "in on it" too.

At this point, it might be easier to list the people in the world who ARENT in on the great scam, huh?  Trump, 333386, and a bunch of people screaming at tea party rallies.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #410 on: April 06, 2011, 02:34:54 PM »
LOL.... IM LOVIN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

His father was a Kenyan muslim with arab blood.   BARACK HUESSIEN OBAMA (SOUND CHRISTIAN TO YOU?)   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #411 on: April 06, 2011, 02:40:31 PM »
This thread is a great example of why prominent republicans are staying away from this issue.  Until definitive evidence is brought to the surface there's nothing here but speculative arguments that can potentially ruin a politician.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #412 on: April 06, 2011, 02:52:28 PM »
This thread is a great example of why prominent republicans are staying away from this issue.  Until definitive evidence is brought to the surface there's nothing here but speculative arguments that can potentially ruin a politician.   

You can approach it like Trump has.  He's not saying Obama is definitely not a US citizen, just that it seems strange that he won't release his birth certificate.  A lot of people agree with him, it is strange. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #413 on: April 06, 2011, 02:53:02 PM »
This thread is a great example of why prominent republicans are staying away from this issue.  Until definitive evidence is brought to the surface there's nothing here but speculative arguments that can potentially ruin a politician.   

Yeah, lets applaud a potus who hides his record and which would not allow him to get hired at so much as security at Burger King.  Fucking brilliant.   ::)  ::)

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Obama's Years at Columbia Are a Mystery
He Graduated Without Honors
By ROSS GOLDBERG, Special to the Sun | September 2, 2008


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Senator Obama's life story, from his humble roots, to his rise to Harvard Law School, to his passion as a community organizer in Chicago, has been at the center of his presidential campaign. But one chapter of the tale remains a blank — his education at Columbia College, a place he rarely speaks about and where few people seem to remember him.

Contributing to the mystery is the fact that nobody knows just how well Mr. Obama, unlike Senator McCain and most other major candidates for the past two elections, performed as a student.

The Obama campaign has refused to release his college transcript, despite an academic career that led him to Harvard Law School and, later, to a lecturing position at the University of Chicago. The shroud surrounding his experience at Columbia contrasts with that of other major party nominees since 2000, all whom have eventually released information about their college performance or seen it leaked to the public.

For better or worse, voters have taken an interest in candidates' grades since 1999, when the New Yorker published President Bush's transcript at Yale and disclosed that he was a C student. Mr. Bush had never portrayed himself as a brain, but many were surprised to learn the next year that his opponent, Vice President Gore, did not do much better at Harvard despite his intellectual image. When Senator Kerry's transcript surfaced, reporters found that he actually had a slightly lower average at Yale than Mr. Bush did.

Some political observers cite such disclosures as proof that candidates' intelligence cannot be judged solely by their political careers or the schools they attended. Grades provide a rare measure of intellect that is immune to political spin, proponents say.

"We like to pretend IQ doesn't matter, but it really does with a lot of jobs, including the presidency," a professor at Smith College who studies the effects of human intelligence on the economy, James Miller, said. "We can't trust the information that candidates give us, so it's important to look for objective data that they can't falsify or distort."

Mr. Miller acknowledged that Mr. Obama displayed academic achievement at Harvard, where he graduated magna cum laude and led the Harvard Law Review. Still, Mr. Miller said, he would like to see information about how Mr. Obama performed in various subjects at Columbia.

That view is not shared by other election observers, including some who have themselves indulged the public's interest in candidates' academic records. One of them is Geoffrey Kabaservice, a political historian who in 2000 published Senator Bradley's relatively low score of 485 on the verbal SAT. Mr. Bradley, a Rhodes Scholar who was a star basketball player at Princeton, was running for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"It's awfully hard to correlate anything, really, about a person on the basis of their grades," Mr. Kabaservice said, explaining that he published Mr. Bradley's score to highlight limitations in intelligence testing. He said he doubted that candidates' grades have affected the outcome of any recent presidential elections.

"For people who didn't like George W. Bush, for example, the grade aspect only confirmed what they thought about him," Mr. Kabaservice said. "And for everybody else, it made him more of a regular guy."

The Obama campaign declined to comment for this article and did not offer an explanation for why his transcript has not been released. But observers speculated that one reason might be the racially charged nature of the election. Mr. Obama has acknowledged benefiting from affirmative action in the past, and details about his academic performance might open him up to critics eager to accuse him, probably unfairly, of receiving a free ride, Mr. Kabaservice said.

"Anyone who is a minority and who's come up partially through the meritocracy — getting into good colleges, and subsequently good law schools — is going to come under suspicion that there was some kind of affirmative action boost," he said. "I suspect this is an area of discomfort for Obama."

In contrast with the rest of Mr. Obama's life story, little is known about his college experience. He attended Occidental College in Los Angeles for two years before transferring to Columbia in 1981. The move receives only a mention in Mr. Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams from My Father," which instead devotes that chapter to his impressions of race and class struggles in New York.

An article in a Columbia University publication, Columbia College Today, reported that Mr. Obama has portrayed Columbia as a period of buckling down following a troubled adolescence. He did not socialize much, he has said, instead spending a lot of time in the library, "like a monk." He has also stated that he was involved to some extent with the Black Students Organization.

Federal law limits the information that Columbia can release about Mr. Obama's time there. A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors, Mr. Connolly said, though specific information on his grades is sealed. A program from the 1983 graduation ceremony lists him as a graduate.

More is known about Mr. McCain's experience at the United States Naval Academy, where he was a self-described troublemaker and graduated in the bottom 1% of his class. The McCain campaign has declined to release his transcript, saying that his performance at the academy can only be viewed in the context of his larger military career.

"His record stands on its own," a McCain spokesman, Peter Feldman, said. "His time spent in college was part of the transformative years that made him who he was."



 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #414 on: April 06, 2011, 02:54:42 PM »
This thread is a great example of why prominent republicans are staying away from this issue.  Until definitive evidence is brought to the surface there's nothing here but speculative arguments that can potentially ruin a politician.   

Yeah, lets applaud a potus who hides his record and which would not allow him to get hired at so much as security at Burger King.  Fucking brilliant.   ::)  ::)

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http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/

Obama's Years at Columbia Are a Mystery
He Graduated Without Honors
By ROSS GOLDBERG, Special to the Sun | September 2, 2008


http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/

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Senator Obama's life story, from his humble roots, to his rise to Harvard Law School, to his passion as a community organizer in Chicago, has been at the center of his presidential campaign. But one chapter of the tale remains a blank — his education at Columbia College, a place he rarely speaks about and where few people seem to remember him.

Contributing to the mystery is the fact that nobody knows just how well Mr. Obama, unlike Senator McCain and most other major candidates for the past two elections, performed as a student.

The Obama campaign has refused to release his college transcript, despite an academic career that led him to Harvard Law School and, later, to a lecturing position at the University of Chicago. The shroud surrounding his experience at Columbia contrasts with that of other major party nominees since 2000, all whom have eventually released information about their college performance or seen it leaked to the public.

For better or worse, voters have taken an interest in candidates' grades since 1999, when the New Yorker published President Bush's transcript at Yale and disclosed that he was a C student. Mr. Bush had never portrayed himself as a brain, but many were surprised to learn the next year that his opponent, Vice President Gore, did not do much better at Harvard despite his intellectual image. When Senator Kerry's transcript surfaced, reporters found that he actually had a slightly lower average at Yale than Mr. Bush did.

Some political observers cite such disclosures as proof that candidates' intelligence cannot be judged solely by their political careers or the schools they attended. Grades provide a rare measure of intellect that is immune to political spin, proponents say.

"We like to pretend IQ doesn't matter, but it really does with a lot of jobs, including the presidency," a professor at Smith College who studies the effects of human intelligence on the economy, James Miller, said. "We can't trust the information that candidates give us, so it's important to look for objective data that they can't falsify or distort."

Mr. Miller acknowledged that Mr. Obama displayed academic achievement at Harvard, where he graduated magna cum laude and led the Harvard Law Review. Still, Mr. Miller said, he would like to see information about how Mr. Obama performed in various subjects at Columbia.

That view is not shared by other election observers, including some who have themselves indulged the public's interest in candidates' academic records. One of them is Geoffrey Kabaservice, a political historian who in 2000 published Senator Bradley's relatively low score of 485 on the verbal SAT. Mr. Bradley, a Rhodes Scholar who was a star basketball player at Princeton, was running for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"It's awfully hard to correlate anything, really, about a person on the basis of their grades," Mr. Kabaservice said, explaining that he published Mr. Bradley's score to highlight limitations in intelligence testing. He said he doubted that candidates' grades have affected the outcome of any recent presidential elections.

"For people who didn't like George W. Bush, for example, the grade aspect only confirmed what they thought about him," Mr. Kabaservice said. "And for everybody else, it made him more of a regular guy."

The Obama campaign declined to comment for this article and did not offer an explanation for why his transcript has not been released. But observers speculated that one reason might be the racially charged nature of the election. Mr. Obama has acknowledged benefiting from affirmative action in the past, and details about his academic performance might open him up to critics eager to accuse him, probably unfairly, of receiving a free ride, Mr. Kabaservice said.

"Anyone who is a minority and who's come up partially through the meritocracy — getting into good colleges, and subsequently good law schools — is going to come under suspicion that there was some kind of affirmative action boost," he said. "I suspect this is an area of discomfort for Obama."

In contrast with the rest of Mr. Obama's life story, little is known about his college experience. He attended Occidental College in Los Angeles for two years before transferring to Columbia in 1981. The move receives only a mention in Mr. Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams from My Father," which instead devotes that chapter to his impressions of race and class struggles in New York.

An article in a Columbia University publication, Columbia College Today, reported that Mr. Obama has portrayed Columbia as a period of buckling down following a troubled adolescence. He did not socialize much, he has said, instead spending a lot of time in the library, "like a monk." He has also stated that he was involved to some extent with the Black Students Organization.

Federal law limits the information that Columbia can release about Mr. Obama's time there. A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors, Mr. Connolly said, though specific information on his grades is sealed. A program from the 1983 graduation ceremony lists him as a graduate.

More is known about Mr. McCain's experience at the United States Naval Academy, where he was a self-described troublemaker and graduated in the bottom 1% of his class. The McCain campaign has declined to release his transcript, saying that his performance at the academy can only be viewed in the context of his larger military career.

"His record stands on its own," a McCain spokesman, Peter Feldman, said. "His time spent in college was part of the transformative years that made him who he was."



 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #415 on: April 06, 2011, 02:54:52 PM »
why do you keep digging :o

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #416 on: April 06, 2011, 02:55:11 PM »
You can approach it like Trump has.  He's not saying Obama is definitely not a US citizen, just that it seems strange that he won't release his birth certificate.  A lot of people agree with him, it is strange. 

Trump is not a politician.  He's a bored business mogul who likes to dabble in TV and now his new thing is politics.

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« Reply #417 on: April 06, 2011, 02:58:08 PM »
Trump is not a politician.  He's a bored business mogul who likes to dabble in TV and now his new thing is politics.


 ::)  ::)

More diversion.   

Where is the long form BC signed by a doctor naming the hospital?   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #418 on: April 06, 2011, 02:59:25 PM »
Yeah, lets applaud a potus who hides his record and which would not allow him to get hired at so much as security at Burger King.  Fucking brilliant.   ::)  ::)

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Yeah classic 33333 technique on the boards:

-  Don't directly respond to the post, instead deflect towards another issue or argument that has little to do with the post he was responding too.

-  Cut and paste some article.






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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #419 on: April 06, 2011, 03:01:05 PM »
Ozmo - again for the 50th time - where is the long form BC signed by a state official naming the hospital of birth and doctor who delivered him?   

If you cant answer that - S T F U on this as you are clueless.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #420 on: April 06, 2011, 03:02:19 PM »

 ::)  ::)

More diversion.   



More diversion?  pot, kettle.


and then you do your typical shit:

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Where is the long form BC signed by a doctor naming the hospital?  


WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY POST ABOUT TRUMP?


Additionally:

Yeah, lets applaud a potus who hides his record and which would not allow him to get hired at so much as security at Burger King.  Fucking brilliant.   ::)  ::)


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WHERE THE FUCK DO I APPLAUD OBAMA IN MY POST????????????





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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #421 on: April 06, 2011, 03:02:59 PM »
ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #422 on: April 06, 2011, 03:05:29 PM »
Ozmo - again for the 50th time - where is the long form BC signed by a state official naming the hospital of birth and doctor who delivered him?   

If you cant answer that - S T F U on this as you are clueless.   

does every single US citizen have this long form?    ::)


What you are asking is a stupid fucking question, because i don't have access to those records. 

The Hawaiian government does.

You should be asking them, (them who are obviously part of your CT), not me.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #423 on: April 06, 2011, 03:05:35 PM »
ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS!

Like what?  

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #424 on: April 06, 2011, 03:06:38 PM »
Like what?  

the post above it!

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