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[The Luke]

yawn

Mesomorph78, if you can post a video of your arm taping 18.6'' pumped; then claim a 20'' arm... does that mean I can post a video verifying my 12'' arms; then claim I have 13.5'' arms?

I mean, a 20'' arm on a 210 lb lifetime natural who's 5'10'' (correct me if those stats are wrong) is about as believable as a 15'' cock.

Don't mean to offend, just being realistic.


The Luke

[body88]

yawn



Hulkster thanks for postin up those pics ronnie blows him away ronnie greatest arm of Ll time

Exactly.... Yet again, you dodge the simple task of posting a video or a picture that will prove your claim. You've posted SEVERAL videos and pictures of yourself over the years, yet when called out on your obvious lie, you clam up and refuse to prove me wrong. Why not just post the video/picture, meso? You've jumped at the chance to do so several times in the past  

You're lying, dude... it's that simple - (which is sad, because I'm not saying you don't have big arms).

[mesmorph78]

@ body 88 Guy I'm a grown man not a kid Do not presume to think that I NEED to prove myself to anyone least of all you . So save your breathe I could care less what you especially in particular thinks ... Hope this helps



Luke the video me measuring my arms and also many more are on getbig .


I choose not to measure and post a vid of it because I don't have to prove myself in the past I probably would have only to have half a doesn't threads made up saying I'm this and that at one point I decided only to post vids of lifts if I say I can lift a and I lift a not much to say after that there is no subjectivity to debate anyway there are a few people here who know me in real life they can attest to why I say


And trust me as sure as the sun will rise tommorow everything I say is true if that's something you can't believe or get your head around that's your problem not mine and you need to get over it and get back to the topic of the thread 


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[The Luke]

Luke the video me measuring my arms and also many more are on getbig .

...measuring your arms at 18.6 inches pumped, right?

Have you actually gained the 40+ lbs of additional muscle it would take to have a 20'' arm?


Correct me if I'm wrong on these stats; but in the video you posted you were 210ish lbs at 5'10'' with 18.5'' arms...

...does that mean you are now 250 lbs at 5'10'' with a 20'' arm, sub 10% bf and still a lifetime natural?


Dude, you should do the Olympia... you're bigger than Kevin Levrone ever was.


The Luke

[mesmorph78]

That video was 18.6 cold
and I could  are less you are proposing to measure me against to try to make whY I say less believable .  I am Meso not levrone not anyone else I could give a fuck whY anyone else arms measure I speak for my self I don't measure myself anyone else because I don't care about anyone elses achievements but mine it's said   Arnold only benched 450 I bench near that natural no diet nothing add that to your list before I put weights down for good I'll press 500 also Coleman pressed 200 lbs I can press180 for a rep or two and so on and so on I guess I shouldn't be doing that
kid you are trying to fight a battle you cannot win go back to quoting your math formulas and talking about levrone arms .I live by no ones confines or rules. So I'll now leave you to your discussion.  

[The Luke]

That video was 18.6 cold
and I could  are less you are proposing to measure me against to try to make whY I say less believable .  I am Meso not levrone not anyone else I could give a fuck whY anyone else arms measure I speak for my self I don't measure myself anyone else because I don't care about anyone elses achievements but mine it's said   Arnold only benched 450 I bench near that natural no diet nothing add that to your list before I put weights down for good I'll press 500 also Coleman pressed 200 lbs I can press180 for a rep or two and so on and so on I guess I shouldn't be doing that
kid you are trying to fight a battle you cannot win go back to quoting your math formulas and talking about levrone arms .I live by no ones confines or rules. So I'll now leave you to your discussion.  

...okay, okay, okay.

Another humble and completely credible 500lb-benching; 200lb-dumbbell-repping; bigger-and-better-than-Ronnie; 20+''-arm-having; supermodel-banging; multi-millionaire GetBigger with no need to boast or prove himself because he is his own man... who is rightly insulted that any GetBigger ever doubt or question his obviously truthful assertions.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were THAT guy.


The Luke

[NarcissisticDeity]

...okay, okay, okay.

Another humble and completely credible 500lb-benching; 200lb-dumbbell-repping; bigger-and-better-than-Ronnie; 20+''-arm-having; supermodel-banging; multi-millionaire GetBigger with no need to boast or prove himself because he is his own man... who is rightly insulted that any GetBigger ever doubt or question his obviously truthful assertions.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were THAT guy.


The Luke

 

[lesaucer]

...okay, okay, okay.

Another humble and completely credible 500lb-benching; 200lb-dumbbell-repping; bigger-and-better-than-Ronnie; 20+''-arm-having; supermodel-banging; multi-millionaire GetBigger with no need to boast or prove himself because he is his own man... who is rightly insulted that any GetBigger ever doubt or question his obviously truthful assertions.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were THAT guy.


The Luke

LMAO!! and do not forget... bench 500lbs, NATURAL 

[lesaucer]

oh sorry, 'near' 450lbs 

[mesmorph78]

Meh

[The Luke]

Meh

I wouldn't be bumping this thread if I were you.


The Luke

[tendonitis]

...okay, okay, okay.

Another humble and completely credible 500lb-benching; 200lb-dumbbell-repping; bigger-and-better-than-Ronnie; 20+''-arm-having; supermodel-banging; multi-millionaire GetBigger with no need to boast or prove himself because he is his own man... who is rightly insulted that any GetBigger ever doubt or question his obviously truthful assertions.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were THAT guy.


The Luke

well done

[dr.chimps]

...okay, okay, okay.

Another humble and completely credible 500lb-benching; 200lb-dumbbell-repping; bigger-and-better-than-Ronnie; 20+''-arm-having; supermodel-banging; multi-millionaire GetBigger with no need to boast or prove himself because he is his own man... who is rightly insulted that any GetBigger ever doubt or question his obviously truthful assertions.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were THAT guy.

The Luke

LOLz. That was pretty good. Still waiting on the Bigfoot  citations. I was out a bit late last night, and I saw a few species I might suggest as xenobiology-like, but nothing more than anecdotal stuff.   

[Per Se]

Mesomorph78, if you can post a video of your arm taping 18.6'' pumped; then claim a 20'' arm... does that mean I can post a video verifying my 12'' arms; then claim I have 13.5'' arms?

I mean, a 20'' arm on a 210 lb lifetime natural who's 5'10'' (correct me if those stats are wrong) is about as believable as a 15'' cock.

Don't mean to offend, just being realistic.


The Luke

Meso78 said that he would that he would happily post a vid if u agreed to his wager...u ddnt agree, yet u are still bitchin. 
That's not cool man, not honourable at all. 
If you're gona continue insulting him, just agree to the wager, then you'll have the chance to show how accurate your formulas are!

[The Luke]

Meso78 said that he would that he would happily post a vid if u agreed to his wager...u ddnt agree, yet u are still bitchin. 
That's not cool man, not honourable at all. 
If you're gona continue insulting him, just agree to the wager, then you'll have the chance to show how accurate your formulas are!

His "wager" is ridiculous.

I could post a video measuring my arms diagonally with a slack tape and make an instantaneous two inch gain. So what? Should I demand a million dollars deposit from anyone who wants video proof of my 24'' arms? Why not? It's perfectly reasonable, after all, my buddy will hold the million and only pay it to me when he is satisfied as a impartial third party that my video is genuine.


I'm not interested in PayPal'ing money to some third party, then having Mesomorph78 post some crooked video cheating a 20'' measurement out of his 18'' (17''?) arms.

To paraphrase Carl Sagan: Mesomorph78 made the exceptional claim, let him produce exceptional evidence.


If Mesomorph78 claims to be a 500lb-benching; 200lb-dumbbell-repping; bigger-and-better-than-Ronnie; 20+''-arm-having; supermodel-banging; multi-millionaire GetBigger while still being a LIFETIME NATURAL... then I believe him.


Frankly, I'm offended that you even asked me to partake in such a wager... you should have simply DEMANDED that I pay him the money directly without proof for even daring to question the claims of the greatest natural bodybuilder ever known.

In fact you should PayPal him a couple hundred bucks too, for indirectly implying Mesomorph should even have to post such a video.

Shame on you.


The Luke

[TRIX]

phil heath has 21.8" arms (he said on his twitter) and he is still lean as fuck

his arms back in 2006


video here
http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?cateid=6&clipid=10958306&q=&type=chal

[The Luke]

phil heath has 21.8" arms (he said on his twitter) and he is still lean as fuck

....pre-contest 230 lb Heath has arms bigger than an offseason 320 lb Ronnie?

Wow! If he typed it on Twitter it must be true.


By the way, I have a bridge for sale. You can read all about it on my Twitter.


The Luke

[TRIX]

what are you talking about, ronnies arms were measured 22 inches in korea at 305 lbs (1 month after 2004 olympia) his arms were ripped

ronnie is an inch taller, and has a massive chest, back and legs..

hope this helps

[The Luke]

what are you talking about, ronnies arms were measured 22 inches in korea at 305 lbs (1 month after 2004 olympia) his arms were ripped

ronnie is an inch taller, and has a massive chest, back and legs..

hope this helps

...and when were Heath's arms measured?


The Luke

[The Luke]

phil is 255 lbs atm, hope this helps

Yeah, sorry... you're right.

Phil weighs 255 lbs so his arms must be bigger than 305 lb Ronnie Coleman... hence Ronnie must have had 24'' arms onstage... therefore Mesomorph78 clearly has 24'' arms too and can easily bench 500 lbs, as a natural.


Seriously guys, you unquestioningly believe this bullshit like an Evangelical listening to Jerry Falwell... or Coach listening to Rush Limbaugh.


The Luke

[The Luke]

Wow...

Is it me, or did TRIX delete this post:

phil is 255 lbs atm, hope this helps

...after I type this rebttal:

Yeah, sorry... you're right.

Phil weighs 255 lbs so his arms must be bigger than 305 lb Ronnie Coleman... hence Ronnie must have had 24'' arms onstage... therefore Mesomorph78 clearly has 24'' arms too and can easily bench 500 lbs, as a natural.

Seriously guys, you unquestioningly believe this bullshit like an Evangelical listening to Jerry Falwell... or Coach listening to Rush Limbaugh.

...ha-ha. Epic.


The Luke

[TRIX]

man you take this too seriously... even these teens have 18 - 19 inch arms

[The Luke]

man you take this too seriously... even these teens have 18 - 19 inch arms

Ugh... not this shit again.

A 20'' arm (like Mesomorph78 claims) is not 11% bigger than an 18'' arm (as you might think by simply dividing the numbers: 20/18=1.111).

A 20'' arm is actually 23% bigger than an 18'' arm... it's a ratio of squares because its a cross sectional area that is increasing: 20²/18² = 400/324 = 23%.

So let's just assume the guys in that video only weigh 200 lbs... that means they'd have to gain 46 lbs (or so) of muscle to add the extra two inches of upper arm size reqired to go from 18'' to 20''.

If they weigh more... they'd have to gain even more.



Guess what?

I'd bet my last dollar that every guy in that video is within an inch of the bodyweight/arm-measurement scale I proposed (assuming they're all within a couple icnhes either side of average height).

How can I make such a claim?

Because 99% of the male population is within an inch of the scale I proposed (assuming roughly average height); no matter what their level of development.

Accept it... accept reality.


The Luke

[kiwiol]

Accept it... accept reality.


The Luke

Like when you did back when you used to claim Sarcasm was 13 years old

[The Luke]

Like when you did back when you used to claim Sarcasm was 13 years old

...Geez, never thought you'd be so hurt by your own inability to spot a joke you'd still be sore about it years later.

If you believed Sarcasm was 13 based on no evidence, then maybe that's why you believe all these pro bodybuilder's ridiculuos claims based on no evidence.



The Luke