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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #275 on: September 23, 2015, 03:23:17 PM »
Fiorina PAC defends abortion comments in graphic ad
Published September 23, 2015
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A Carly Fiorina super PAC has launched a powerful and graphic online ad refuting claims that she falsely described a scene in an undercover video where a live aborted fetus is kicking its legs.

The former HP CEO made the remarks at the Sept. 16 Republican primary debate last week as she dared President Obama and Hillary Clinton to watch the Planned Parenthood videos. “A fully-formed fetus, on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says ‘we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain,’” Fiorina said, adding that if Congress does not pass legislation defunding Planned Parenthood, "shame on us."

Some questioned the veracity of the Republican presidential candidate's remarks after the debate, claiming that the scene exactly as she described was not in any of the videos. However, the Fiorina camp circulated a video of a kicking fetus, which was included in the ad put out by CARLY for America.

In the opening of the video, the text says that “Carly won the debate, so here come the false attacks.” It then shows a number of commentators and news outlets criticizing Fiorina over her remarks.

WARNING: GRAPHIC VIDEO



The video goes on to show the scene to which Fiorina was referring -- a fetus with its legs kicking -- before showing another clip of an aborted fetus, and then a former Planned Parenthood technician describing how she was told: “We're going to procure brain.”

The video finishes by quoting Fiorina again: “This is about the character of our nation.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/23/new-graphic-ad-by-fiorina-pac-defends-abortion-comments/?intcmp=hpbt2

this nation has no problem killing fully formed human beings (inluding babies) when it serves our interests and we apparently couldn't give a rats ass about the tens of thousands of refugee's in Europe

What we  do like in this country is Abortion and by extension Planned Parenthood

What are the odds that fundie dipshits will actually HARM THEIR OWN PARTY by trying to shut down the government again




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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #276 on: September 23, 2015, 05:18:47 PM »
Carly combined the elements of multiple vides into the one she described in teh debate?

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #277 on: September 24, 2015, 07:37:14 AM »
HAHAHA Carly has to lie, to her liars who support her, about a video that is a lie, and yet....   they still lap it up. 

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #278 on: September 24, 2015, 09:16:58 AM »
HAHAHA Carly has to lie, to her liars who support her, about a video that is a lie, and yet....   they still lap it up. 

pretending imaginary things are real is a big part of the fundie christian lifestyle

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #279 on: September 24, 2015, 09:36:01 AM »
pretending imaginary things are real is a big part of the fundie christian lifestyle

So is getting upset and spazzing out when other people don't immediately buy into your lies and delusions.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #280 on: September 29, 2015, 01:01:53 PM »
Missouri, Utah move to reel in Planned Parenthood after videos
By Theodore Schleifer, CNN
Updated Mon September 28, 2015
Video Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)—As Planned Parenthood endures renewed scrutiny on the 2016 presidential trail, states have taken a closer look at their practices as well.

On Monday, the Planned Parenthood Association of Utah said it would sue the state's governor, Gary Herbert, after he cut funding to their program. And in Missouri, the state attorney general said its investigation into whether Planned Parenthood's surgical facility engaged in illegal activity turned up empty.

The organization, which provides abortions and health services to women, has confronted a series of secretly taped, edited videos this summer which appear to show senior officials discussing the sale of fetal tissue as part of the process of terminating a pregnancy. The group has denied wrongdoing.

Hebert slashed money for the group in Utah in August.

"We aren't going to stand idly by. We aren't going to allow the governor to play politics with our health and our lives. We are standing up and fighting back," said Karrie Galloway the CEO of Utah's chapter.

The governor's office said it would maintain women's health services even with the cuts.

"Gov. Herbert stands by his actions to cease acting as a pass-through for federal funds to Planned Parenthood," said Aimee Edwards, Herbert's spokeswoman, in a statement. "He was offended by the actions of Planned Parenthood and the callousness with which they discussed human life."

Officials in Missouri launched its investigation following the July release of videos but "discovered no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Planned Parenthood's St. Louis facility is selling fetal tissue," according to Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster.

Republicans have looked to defund the organization at a federal level, with several hardline conservatives hoping to tie budget talks this week to efforts to strip the organization of the dollars. Democrats, who maintain that the organization has done nothing wrong, and establishment Republicans, wary of shutting down the government should Congress arrive at an impasse, are likely to partner together to fully fund Planned Parenthood despite conservatives' objections.

On the campaign trail, Republican presidential candidates ranging from Texas Sen. Ted Cruz to former tech CEO Carly Fiorina have placed the videos at the center of their 2016 campaigns -- most prominently at the CNN debate in California earlier this month.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/missouri-utah-planned-parenthood-videos/index.html

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #281 on: October 08, 2015, 10:08:28 AM »
Bunch of toothless mofos.   ::)

House Forming Special Panel to Probe Planned Parenthood

Image: House Forming Special Panel to Probe Planned Parenthood Planned Parenthood chief Cecile Richards (AP)
Wednesday, 07 Oct 2015

The House neared creation Wednesday of a special committee to investigate Planned Parenthood and its procurement of fetal tissue as Republicans continued pressing an issue that has galvanized conservatives since secret videos surfaced this summer.

A vote establishing the select panel was expected to fall closely along party lines, with Democrats dismissing the probe as a purely political exercise by the GOP. It was unclear if Democrats would participate in the committee's work.

Four other congressional committees are already investigating Planned Parenthood, three in the House and one in the Senate.

"Even if these abortion providers somehow manage to comply with all federal laws while dismembering children, it's clear we need to learn more about their barbaric tactics," said Rep. Virginia Foxx, R-N.C.

Democrats likened the new House panel to one that Republicans created last year to investigate the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans. Hillary Rodham Clinton was secretary of state at the time, and Democrats say that committee was designed to hurt her prospects as a Democratic presidential candidate. House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., seemed to suggest as much in a TV interview last week.

"It is simply politics," Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said of the effort to establish a special committee.

Outgoing House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, suggested establishing a special committee recently as GOP leaders tried staving off conservatives willing to wage a government shutdown fight with President Barack Obama over their attempt to block the federal money that Planned Parenthood receives.

That battle could be revisited in mid-December, when money keeping government agencies functioning runs out. Obama has promised to veto legislation cutting the group's money.

The House voted last month to block the federal money that the women's health organization receives, but Democrats blocked similar Senate legislation in August.

Planned Parenthood receives around $450 million in federal funds yearly, around a third of its budget, mostly reimbursements for seeing low-income Medicaid patients. By law, almost none of the federal money can be used for abortions, of which Planned Parenthood performs more than 300,000 annually.

Republicans have trained their fire on Planned Parenthood since the release of abortion foes' videos showing the organization's officials talking about how they harvest tissue from aborted fetuses for medical researchers.

The activists and some Republicans claim the group illegally sells the tissue for profit. Backed by most Democrats, Planned Parenthood says it's only recovered its expenses for retrieving the organs, which is legal, and is the victim of dishonestly edited recordings.

The measure establishing the special House panel does not mention Planned Parenthood by name. It says the committee should investigate "medical procedures and business practices used by entities involved in fetal tissue procurement."

It also authorizes the panel to probe "federal funding and support for abortion providers" and procedures in late-term abortions.

Drew Hammill, spokesman for House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said he had no information when asked if Democrats would participate in the panel. Democrats considered not participating in the Benghazi panel but have continued doing so.

Wednesday's resolution gives the committee chair the power to issue subpoenas. It will be part of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Planned-Parenthood-special-panel/2015/10/07/id/695186/#ixzz3nzsl6feF

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #282 on: October 08, 2015, 10:12:15 AM »
Bunch of toothless mofos.   ::)

let me make this easy for you.

Repubs finally own the house and the senate.

First, they take all the power away from this new Senate by doing a budget RIGHT BEFORE they enter office, giving obama something like 1.8 trillion to spend in the year.  THEN they refuse to either shit, or get off the pot, when it comes to planned parenthood.  If you hate it that bad, then just work together and END IT.   Don't just roll around with blue balls for 2 years talking about it.

While we're on that subject - Iran - just write your own legislation and make obama veto ir.
While we're on that subject - Obamacare - same fcking thing.
While we're on that subject - why the F can't you impeach obama now, you have both houses?

Repubs begged for a decade "just give us both houses and we'll make everything great".  You've had it almost a year now, and you haven't done jack shit.  STFU.  Shit or get off the pot.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #283 on: October 13, 2015, 11:54:39 AM »
Smart move.  They know good and well they were violating the law by profiting off selling human body parts. 

Planned Parenthood reverses policy of taking money for fetal tissue 'donations'
By  Cody Derespina
Published October 13, 2015
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Beleaguered abortion provider Planned Parenthood announced Tuesday it would no longer accept money from researchers for aborted baby parts, citing a desire to defang “an anti-abortion political agenda” in the wake of a series of undercover videos that appear to show the organization profited from fetal organ sales.

Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards revealed the policy shift in a letter to Francis Collins, the director of the National Institutes of Health. Planned Parenthood has maintained it only recoups its own expenses for harvesting and donating fetal tissue, the actual sale of which is barred by federal law. 

“In order to completely debunk the disingenuous argument that our opponents have been using – and to reveal the true political purpose of these attacks – our Federation has decided, going forward, that any Planned Parenthood health center that is involved in donating tissue after an abortion for medical research will…accept no reimbursement for its reasonable expenses,” Richards wrote.

While it is legal for clinics to be reimbursed for any expenses incurred during the donation process, a series of undercover videos produced by an anti-abortion activist group have suggested that Planned Parenthood may actually profit from the sale of body parts, which would be illegal.

The project lead of the Center for Medical Progress, the group behind the undercover videos that shed light on the organ harvesting, called Richards' letter "an admission of guilt" in a statement to FoxNews.com.

"This proves what CMP has been saying all along -- Planned Parenthood incurs no actual costs, and the payments for harvested fetal parts have always been an extra profit margin," David Daleiden said in the statement.

Richards’ letter said the procedural change will only affect one Planned Parenthood clinic. She stated that there are “two affiliates currently facilitating donations for fetal tissue research,” one of which doesn’t accept reimbursement.

“Going forward, all of our health centers will follow the same policy, even if it means they will not recover reimbursements permitted by the 1993 law,” Richards wrote, referencing the law which legalized fetal tissue research on aborted babies.

Some candidates seeking the Republican presidential nomination have loudly voiced their opposition to Planned Parenthood's practices, particularly Carly Fiorina.

"This organization is continuing to butcher babies for their body parts while mocking pregnancy centers and taking taxpayer dollars," Fiorina said in a statement to FoxNews.com. "This is about the character of our nation."

Congress has jumped in too, grilling Richards during a hearing about Planned Parenthood in September. Several in Congress also have called for revoking the roughly $500 million in annual funding Planned Parenthood receives from Washington.

"Significant questions still remain about Planned Parenthood's finances," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-UT, said in a statement. Chaffetz is the chairman of the committee investigating Planned Parenthood. "This decision does not answer the question as to why a non-profit, tax-exempt organization reporting approximately $125M in revenue over expenses annually needs a subsidy from the American taxpayer."

Chaffetz said the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee would continue it's investigation, undercutting any attempt by Richards to inoculate her organization from future attacks. Still the letter could serve to stifle what has become a potent social rallying cry on the political right in the early run-up to the primaries.

“Our decision is first and foremost about preserving the ability of our patients to donate tissue, and to expose our opponents’ false charges about this limited but important work,” Richards wrote.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/13/planned-parenthood-to-stop-taking-reimbursements-for-body-part-donations/?intcmp=hpbt1

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #284 on: October 20, 2015, 09:29:24 AM »
Texas cuts Planned Parenthood from Medicaid
By Tal Kopan, CNN
Mon October 19, 2015 | Video Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)The state of Texas on Monday informed Planned Parenthood affiliates that it was cutting off the organization from the state's Medicaid program -- citing recently released undercover videos of as evidence of violations.

A letter from the Texas Health and Human Services Commission Office of the Inspector General went out Monday to inform affiliates they are believed to be "no longer capable of performing medical services in a professionally competent, safe, legal, and ethical manner," according to a copy posted by The Dallas Morning News.

The organization has been under fire nationally since the videos began coming out this summer from an anti-abortion activist group. One video was shot in a Texas clinic.

Republicans have called for Planned Parenthood to be defunded at the federal level. Democrats have maintained federal dollars are already prohibited from going to abortions, and that Planned Parenthood provides important health care for women.

Planned Parenthood on Monday blasted the decision to cut Medicaid contracts for providing birth control, cancer screenings, HIV tests and preventative care, noting that a federal judge in Louisiana on Monday blocked a similar move.

"It is completely outrageous that Texas officials are using thoroughly discredited, fraudulent videos to cut women off from preventive health care," Executive Vice President Dawn Laguens said in a statement. "We will fight back against this outrageous, malicious, political attack in Texas with everything we've got, and we will protect women's access to the health care they need and deserve."

Republicans in the House voted to create a select committee to investigate Planned Parenthood over the objections of Democrats.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/politics/texas-planned-parenthood-medicaid-cuts/index.html

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #285 on: October 27, 2015, 10:04:31 AM »
Planned Parenthood doctor appears to admit to partial-birth abortions
Published October 27, 2015
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A Planned Parenthood doctor laughs as she says she continues to “strive” to deliver an aborted baby with an intact skull and appears to admit participating in partial-birth abortions in the latest undercover video released Tuesday targeting Planned Parenthood.

A woman identified as Dr. Amna Dermish of Planned Parenthood of Greater Texas is the focus of the Center for Medical Progress’ 11th video, which is purported to have been filmed during a medical conference in October 2014.

“My aim is usually to get the specimens out pretty intact,” Dermish says at one point.

“Well this will give me something to strive for!”

- Dr. Amna Dermish, when asked if she's delivered a fetus with an intact skull
Dermish says in the video that she does not use the chemical digoxin, used to kill fetuses in the womb, before 20 weeks. She doesn’t say if she uses another chemical during the more than eight-minute, edited clip, and CMP asserts that means babies are delivered alive and killed outside of the womb. Dermish says she has used “ultrasound guidance” to manipulate fetuses for feet-first abortions in the video, a practice CMP describes as a “hallmark” of the illegal partial-birth abortion procedure.

A partial-birth abortion is defined as “deliberately and intentionally vaginally” delivering a living fetus where “any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother, for the purpose of” killing the fetus. The practice was outlawed by President George W. Bush in 2003.

“Usually what I do, if it’s a [feet-first] presentation, I’ll remove the extremities first, the lower extremities, and then go for the spine and then sort of bring it down that way,” Dermish says.

Asked about harvesting intact fetal brains, Dermish says she has not been able to do that yet.

“Well this will give me something to strive for!” she says, laughing.

When discussing a colleague that is able to identify nine-week fetal hearts in the remains of aborted babies, a woman identified as being from Whole Women’s Health, another abortion clinic, interjects, “Well it’s cute. It is cute.”

Dermish adds: “It’s amazing. It’s sort of – I have so much respect for development. It’s just incredible. So she’s always at 10, 11, 12 weeks, she’s like trying to find the kidneys and any of the organs of that gestation.”

Previous CMP videos have appeared to show Planned Parenthood officials admitting the organization alters abortion procedures to procure fetal tissue, delivers intact fetuses and sells fetal tissue for profit. Each of those practices is against federal law.

Planned Parenthood has denied breaking any laws and has said payments discussed in the videos relate to reimbursement costs for procuring the tissue – which is legal. Earlier this month, Planned Parenthood announced it would stop taking money from researchers for aborted baby parts.

“These extremists show a total lack of compassion and dignity for women’s most personal medical decisions,” an Aug. 4 statement from Planned Parenthood said.

The videos have spurred investigations of Planned Parenthood's policies on aborted fetuses by several Republican-led congressional committees and numerous states. Investigators in Florida cited four Planned Parenthood clinics for violations in August. Outgoing House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, announced in September that Republicans would be leading a select committee to investigate Planned Parenthood.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/27/planned-parenthood-doctor-appears-to-admit-to-partial-birth-abortions/?intcmp=hpbt3


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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #286 on: October 28, 2015, 04:03:22 AM »
why are you still posting videos, no reasonable person is going to look at that shit.

When you know something to be true you generally don't have to doctor videos and in essence, lie.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #287 on: October 28, 2015, 01:22:49 PM »
why are you still posting videos, no reasonable person is going to look at that shit.

When you know something to be true you generally don't have to doctor videos and in essence, lie.

Don't watch if they don't interest you. 

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #288 on: October 28, 2015, 01:24:28 PM »
U.S. judge bars Alabama from defunding Planned Parenthood clinics
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By Letitia Stein
August 31, 2015

(Reuters) - A federal judge on Wednesday blocked Alabama from defunding Planned Parenthood clinics amid controversy over the release of covertly recorded videos about the reproductive health organization's handling of aborted fetal tissue.

U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson issued a preliminary injunction after Planned Parenthood challenged the state's move to terminate its contract to provide services under Medicaid, the federal and state healthcare program for the poor.

The judge wrote that Alabama had not provided a reason for terminating its agreement with the Planned Parenthood affiliate serving the region, as required under federal law. Planned Parenthood, which has clinics in Mobile and Birmingham, is an abortion provider.

"This is an absolute victory. The state of Alabama cannot impermissibly target abortion providers for unfair treatment," said Susan Watson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Alabama, which joined in the lawsuit.

Alabama Governor Robert Bentley, a Republican named in the suit, said he was considering the state's legal options.

"I am disappointed, and vehemently disagree with the court’s ruling today," he said in a statement.

He was one of several Republican governors who have sought to strip funding from Planned Parenthood clinics following the release this summer of videos secretly recorded by an anti-abortion group, the Center for Medical Progress.

Planned Parenthood has denied the group's claims that the videos show wrongdoing and has challenged similar defunding efforts in other Republican-controlled states, calling them politically motivated.

The organization cheered the Alabama ruling and noted that it has now seen success in three other states: Arkansas, Louisiana and Utah, where it also challenged similar defunding efforts.

"For the fourth time in six weeks, the courts have ruled to protect access to care at Planned Parenthood," said Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, in a statement.

In Louisiana, a federal judge temporarily blocked the state from cutting Medicaid funding to the group's clinics as the legal fight over the payments continues. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, a Republican presidential candidate, has said he would appeal.

In Arkansas, the organization is pursuing a class action complaint on behalf of state Medicaid patients, after a U.S. judge narrowly ordered the state to continue payments to three women who challenged the state's defunding.

The organization also won a temporary judicial order barring Utah Governor Gary Herbert, a Republican, from revoking state contracts with Planned Parenthood.

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-blocks-alabama-defunding-planned-parenthood-clinics-154537869.html

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #289 on: October 28, 2015, 02:20:19 PM »
Don't watch if they don't interest you. 

it's not a matter of interest but of integrity. These people have been caught doctoring videos, they have no credibility left.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #290 on: October 28, 2015, 02:22:58 PM »
it's not a matter of interest but of integrity. These people have been caught doctoring videos, they have no credibility left.

Sounds like a talking point.  I haven't seen proof that these videos are doctored.  Have you?

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #291 on: October 28, 2015, 02:24:15 PM »
Banned abortion video leaked, appears to show clinic owner advocating burning of fetuses
By  Cody Derespina
Published October 28, 2015
FoxNews.com

Hidden camera footage shot by a pro-life group and leaked online despite a court order purportedly shows a Michigan abortion provider talking about dumping fetuses in a garbage disposal, giving them back to patients in a “gift bag” and even burning them for heat.

U.S. District Judge William Orrick issued a restraining order in August barring the Center for Medical Progress from releasing a host of undercover videos shot at National Abortion Federation conferences in 2013, 2014 and 2015. But on Oct. 6 Orrick allowed CMP to send the footage to a House committee investigating Planned Parenthood, and that footage was leaked to blog GotNews.com later in the month. CMP officials deny being the source of the leak.

The 11 new videos comprise more than four-and-a-half hours of footage covertly shot during seminars and one-on-one conversations with individuals in the abortion industry.


“We thought, ‘We’ll give it to everybody in a gift bag, they can take it home and figure out what to do with it.'"

- Renee Chelian

Some of the most ghastly moments come from a woman identified as Renee Chelian by non-profit Right to Life Michigan. In footage shot in April 2014, Chelian, who owns a chain of abortion clinics in Michigan and is not affiliated with Planned Parenthood, addresses an audience and discusses her frustrations trying to dispose of five months of backlogged fetal remains.

“The garbage disposal was the completely legal option,” Chelian says. “Which made me sick to my stomach because there were about 45 clinics in the Detroit metropolitan area and many of them were using garbage disposals, so I was busy contacting everyone that we have to stop, [saying], 'We can’t be on the front page of The New York Times. You shouldn’t be doing this, any of you.'


"They consistently showed me, like, a 40-year-old law in the state of Michigan that said medical waste was fine to go in the sewer system," she added. "I couldn’t really argue with them.”

Her efforts to find a solution took her to various funeral homes and pet crematoriums, and she also investigated using “green technology” that functioned “like a dishwasher,” in which the operator adds a chemical and the fetal remains are then drained into the sewer system. Eventually, she says in the footage, Chelian paid someone to dispose of 20 bottles of fetal remains “into my garbage disposal.”

“We were really tempted to give the fetus back, but of course we couldn’t do that,” Chelian said. “We thought, ‘We’ll give it to everybody in a gift bag, they can take it home and figure out what to do with it. It’s their pregnancy and why is this our problem?’”

She drew roars of laughter for her “gift bag” idea from the crowd listening and also elicited howls for a sarcastic plot to burn the aborted babies in a “bonfire” in the woods.

During a question-and-answer session, a woman from Vancouver, Canada mentions that her abortion facility ships its fetal remains to “a waste energy facility” in Oregon where the tissue is burned to provide energy.

“It seems like a really good solution!” Chelian interjects.

Chelian regretfully opines that abortion providers are “afraid to tell the truth” and “everything is a secret” when it comes to disposing of dead baby parts.

The Marion County Waste-to-Energy Facility in Oregon alluded to by the questioner denied in April 2014 that the plant was using fetal remains in its garbage burning operation.

“We’re not burning babies,” Vice President of Marketing and Communications Jill Stueck told the Portland Tribune at the time.

But whether that specific example is true or not, the concept is rooted in reality. The Oregon allegations came just a month after multiple British news outlets reported that 10 National Health Service hospital trusts admitted to burning aborted and miscarried fetuses alongside trash to generate power for heating.

Ed Rivet, the Legislative Director for Right to Life Michigan, said Chelian’s story is indicative of practices prevalent in the abortion industry.

“They’ve been cutting corners for decades,” Rivet told FoxNews.com. “And they’re trying to keep the prices artificially cheap, and the only way to do that it is to lower your standards and not do things the way the rest of the medical world does.”

Previous videos shot by CMP have appeared to show Planned Parenthood officials admitting the organization alters abortion procedures to procure fetal tissue, delivers intact fetuses and sells fetal tissue for profit. Each of those practices is against federal law.

Planned Parenthood has denied breaking any laws and has said payments discussed in the videos relate to reimbursement costs for procuring the tissue – which is legal. Earlier this month, Planned Parenthood announced it would stop taking money from researchers for aborted baby parts.

The videos have spurred investigations of Planned Parenthood's policies on aborted fetuses by several Republican-led congressional committees including a newly announced select committee.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/28/banned-abortion-video-leaked-appears-to-show-clinic-owner-advocating-burning/?intcmp=hpbt3


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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #292 on: November 02, 2015, 09:14:01 AM »
Paul Ryan doubtful about defunding Planned Parenthood
By Eugene Scott, CNN
Sun November 1, 2015

Washington (CNN)Paul Ryan doesn't believe Planned Parenthood should get one "red cent" from taxpayers -- but he cautioned Sunday against expectations that he'll be able to pull federal funding for the organization now that he's House speaker.

"I think we need to be very clear about what we can and cannot achieve and not set expectations that we know we can't reach given the constraints of the Constitution," Ryan told CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union."

The women's health organization has long drawn the ire of anti-abortion lawmakers, but efforts to pull federal funding for it increased after activists released undercover videos accusing Planned Parenthood of breaking federal laws by selling tissue and organs from aborted fetuses.

"I don't think Planned Parenthood should get a red cent from the taxpayer. I've always believed that, even before these disgusting videos came out," Ryan said. "But I believe we need to do our oversight. We're just beginning to start a committee to investigate Planned Parenthood. That's important. So the special committee on Planned Parenthood, I think, should be in the driver's seat overseeing this process."

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Bash asked, "Will you defund Planned Parenthood?"

"This is what I mean when I say being an effective opposition party. I think being an effective opposition party means being honest with people upfront about what it is we can and cannot achieve," he said.

"But we also have to push issues where we can push issues, we have to speak truth to power," he added. "We have a president that isn't willing to listen, that isn't going to sign lots of our bills into law, we have a Senate that has a very difficult process when it comes to actually getting bills voted on, so knowing that we have those constraints, we have to operate within those constraints."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/01/politics/paul-ryan-planned-parenthood/index.html

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #293 on: November 02, 2015, 10:12:00 AM »
Paul Ryan doubtful about defunding Planned Parenthood

Ryan is Boehnner II.

LOL @ tea party "repubs" who were loving on this guy 5 minutes ago.

he's a big spending, pro-amnesty RINO and he smiled with a reassuring hug, as boehnner/pelosi kissed and gave us the last obama budget until 2017.

This repub senate class has just been neutered for the 2nd time.  Cruz and friends have ZERO power over obama now.  Boehnner and Ryan took away the power of the purse strings.   Business as usual.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #294 on: November 03, 2015, 05:34:14 AM »
No more RINOs, no more RINOs, no more... oh look we want Paul to lead our party.....

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #295 on: November 03, 2015, 07:40:58 AM »
No more RINOs, no more RINOs, no more... oh look we want Paul to lead our party.....

LOL! 

it's already more of the same.  Paul Ryan, a huge amnesty guy, saying we cannot trump obama on immigration.
Rubio has one accomplishment in congress - writing amnesty/Dream with obama lol.

these folks play in the dirt with obama all day, then get on FOX and scream about the mess.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #296 on: November 03, 2015, 08:56:39 AM »
Ryan was instrumental in solving the gridlock.

He seems more responsible than the rest of his party members.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #297 on: November 03, 2015, 09:18:52 AM »
Sounds like a talking point.  I haven't seen proof that these videos are doctored.  Have you?

the proof was already given to you in this thread

It's always hilarious how you pretend not to know something (or choose not to look at it) so you can maintain your willful ignorance

"Nonprofit organization" is often a misnomer.  All organizations have to make money, one way or another, to function.  It definitely sounds like PP is trying generate profits (revenue, income, whatever you want to call it) to advance their business, which is in part killing unborn babies.  I agree with bears on this that they cannot identify the "costs" that are being "reimbursed."  If you watch the videos, they are clearly talking about making money, not simply getting reimbursed for unstated costs.    

We don't have to sell either intact or dismembered dead babies to advance science.  

Pro abortion people absolutely dehumanize the baby.  That's partly what makes it so easy for them to embrace and celebrate one of the most gruesome practices in the country.  Whether you agree with legalized abortion or not, it is an awful procedure.  

for fucks sake you're a blatant liar

the full video shows them saying over and over that this not a money making endeavor

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At one point in the unedited video (which was also released by the group), Nucatola says: “Affiliates are not looking to make money by doing this. They’re looking to serve their patients and just make it not impact their bottom line.”
Nucatola also says, “No one’s going to see this as a money making thing.” And at another point, she says, “Our goal, like I said, is to give patients the option without impacting our bottom line. The messaging is this should not be seen as a new revenue stream, because that’s not what it is.

here again are the statement of 4 experts in the field of tissue procurement explaining the costs involved.

or you can just look at the statement from the CNN article which dumbs it down for people like you

It turns out that cadavers, livers, kidneys, eyes and other organs don't walk themselves over to the local hospital or medical school for free.

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Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Nucatola’s comment, though, isn’t evidence that Planned Parenthood or its affiliates are selling “body parts” or fetal tissue for profit. The full video shows that after Nucatola mentions the $30 to $100, she describes how those amounts would be reimbursement for expenses related to handling and transportation of the tissues. Nucatola talks about “space issues” and whether shipping would be involved.

We also asked experts in the use of human tissue for research about the potential for profit. Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository,” told us that “there’s no way there’s a profit at that price.”She continued in an email:

Sawyer, July 20: In reality, $30-100 probably constitutes a loss for [Planned Parenthood]. The costs associated with collection, processing, storage, and inventory and records management for specimens are very high. Most hospitals will provide tissue blocks from surgical procedures (ones no longer needed for clinical purposes, and without identity) for research, and cost recover for their time and effort in the range of $100-500 per case/block. In the realm of tissues for research $30-100 is completely reasonable and normal fee.

Jim Vaught, president of the International Society for Biological and Environmental Repositories and formerly the deputy director of the National Cancer Institute’s Office of Biorepositories and Biospecimen Research, told us in an email that “$30 to $100 per sample is a reasonable charge for clinical operations to recover their costs for providing tissue.” In fact, he said, the costs to a clinic are often much higher, but most operations that provide this kind of tissue have “no intention of fully recovering [their] costs, much less making a profit.”

Carolyn Compton, the chief medical and science officer of Arizona State University’s National Biomarkers Development Alliance and a former director of biorepositories and biospecimen research at the National Cancer Institute, agreed that this was “a modest price tag for cost recovery.” Compton told us in an email: ” ‘Profit’ is out of the question, in my mind. I would say that whoever opined about ‘profit’ knows very little about the effort and expense involved in providing human biospecimens for research purposes.”


Bum - if you're still confused it's just due to willful ignorance

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #298 on: November 04, 2015, 06:08:38 AM »
Beach Bum, did you finish high school? serious question

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #299 on: November 04, 2015, 09:29:04 AM »
Beach Bum, did you finish high school? serious question

Nah.  I graduated from the school of hard knocks.  Why do you ask?