Our "President" On This Veterans Day

[jaejonna]

hahaha wanst looking to win the Political Poster of the Year award...

[The Showstoppa]

hahaha wanst looking to win the Political Poster of the Year award...

Sometimes you orientals are even smarter than you think you are....

[makaveli25]

You fools what do you think Obama would of done if the same thing happened to him during his term. If the 9/11 attacks happend on his watch he would piss his pants. What do you think Al Gore would do? He problalby wouldn't retaliate either he would be to scared to do anything and would probably find away to make muslims feel better about themselves. What was Bush suppose to do get up and start yelling.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

You fools what do you think Obama would of done if the same thing happened to him during his term. If the 9/11 attacks happend on his watch he would piss his pants. What do you think Al Gore would do? He problalby wouldn't retaliate either he would be to scared to do anything and would probably find away to make muslims feel better about themselves. What was Bush suppose to do get up and start yelling.

They would all do the exact same thing... in the end it's not the president who's pulling the strings my friend. 

[Agnostic007]

I'll give 10 to 1 odds that if Obama was at Arlington today, organized the most extravagant, beautiful memorial to ever have been done by any President, and during the ceremony a disturbance broke out, a shot was fired in the direction of a military members 4 yr old child, and Obama threw himself in front of the child, taking the bullet in the gut 2 things would happen;

1. Many on this board would complain about the cost of the ceremony
2. Many on this board would complain about his transparent attempt at a photo op

I'm not a fan of Obama, nor was I a fan of Bush, but what I dislike more than either of them are people of both parties that are so brainwashed they no longer are intellectually honest about either their candidate, or the other parties candidate. It's times like this, I'm truly embarrassed to be an American and 10 yrs ago I would have never said that.

[Jaime]

Obama hates America it isn't suprising. Anyone watch Bush on Oprah or Hannity. Guy has titanium balls compared to this muslim pussy Obama. People bash Bush but how would Obama or Al Gore handle something like 9/11 we would be screwed big time.

All they would have to do is invade a country where the hijackers actually came from and they would be several degrees less retarded than that fuckwit. Still retarded, but less so.

[pellius]

Hmm. You mean on 9/11 when the Saudi terrorists hit New York, backed by Saudi dollars and Saudi religious fervour, and Bush went after Hussein in Iraq!? That kind of stuff?  

Actually, we attacked Afghanistan after 9/11. Never was 9/11 used as a reason to go after Hussein. Remember kicking out the inspectors? Shooting at our planes? Repeated violations on UN resolutions? Resolution 1441? Come on Chimpster, your bias is coloring your views and obscuring the facts.

[nder98]

Actually, we attacked Afghanistan after 9/11. Never was 9/11 used as a reason to go after Hussein. Remember kicking out the inspectors? Shooting at our planes? Repeated violations on UN resolutions? Resolution 1441? Come on Chimpster, your bias is coloring your views and obscuring the facts.

PAH PAH PAH PAH PWNED!

[Agnostic007]

Actually, we attacked Afghanistan after 9/11. Never was 9/11 used as a reason to go after Hussein. Remember kicking out the inspectors? Shooting at our planes? Repeated violations on UN resolutions? Resolution 1441? Come on Chimpster, your bias is coloring your views and obscuring the facts.

I remember the inspectors saying "we are making progress" and Bush coming on the news the same day saying that Hussein is leaving him no choice because he isnt cooperating... and the inspectors saying... He is now... and Bush saying, No he isnt....  I wondered at the time if Bush ever communicated with the inspectors because their statements were opposing... Been a long time ago, but I do recall wondering "What the hell?"  

[dr.chimps]

Actually, we attacked Afghanistan after 9/11. Never was 9/11 used as a reason to go after Hussein. Remember kicking out the inspectors? Shooting at our planes? Repeated violations on UN resolutions? Resolution 1441? Come on Chimpster, your bias is coloring your views and obscuring the facts.

9/11 was the impetus 43 used to finish his Father's War. That's not debatable, politics aside.

[The Showstoppa]

I remember the inspectors saying "we are making progress" and Bush coming on the news the same day saying that Hussein is leaving him no choice because he isnt cooperating... and the inspectors saying... He is now... and Bush saying, No he isnt....  I wondered at the time if Bush ever communicated with the inspectors because their statements were opposing... Been a long time ago, but I do recall wondering "What the hell?"  

Inspector 1 "but president, we need more time, his is co-operating now..."
Bush :" mmmhmmmmm...."
Inspector 2 "perhaps you can continue to pay us a contractors fee to find the wmd's for the next 20 yrs?"
Bush "mmmmmmm....don't like the sound of that...."
Inspector 1: "but, but, but.....he was only non compliant for 10 yrs or so..."
Bush:  "fuck this......lets blow some shit up boys !!!!"

[Agnostic007]

Inspector 1 "but president, we need more time, his is co-operating now..."
Bush :" mmmhmmmmm...."
Inspector 2 "perhaps you can continue to pay us a contractors fee to find the wmd's for the next 20 yrs?"
Bush "mmmmmmm....don't like the sound of that...."
Inspector 1: "but, but, but.....he was only non compliant for 10 yrs or so..."
Bush:  "fuck this......lets blow some shit up boys !!!!"

Sounds about right

[Agnostic007]

Let's take care of that dude in Iraq, we will be in and out in a year tops.... Hell, we're already over there, no time like the present...

Fast forward about 6 yrs....

Well, we got the bad dude now what?..

3 more years...

Shit... I don't know... how the hell do we end this..?

[dr.chimps]

Inspector 1 "but president, we need more time, his is co-operating now..."
Bush :" mmmhmmmmm...."
Inspector 2 "perhaps you can continue to pay us a contractors fee to find the wmd's for the next 20 yrs?"
Bush "mmmmmmm....don't like the sound of that...."
Inspector 1: "but, but, but.....he was only non compliant for 10 yrs or so..."
Bush:  "fuck this......lets blow some shit up boys !!!!"

[The Showstoppa]

Let's take care of that dude in Iraq, we will be in and out in a year tops.... Hell, we're already over there, no time like the present...

Fast forward about 6 yrs....

Well, we got the bad dude now what?..

3 more years...

Shit... I don't know... how the hell do we end this..?

THAT was the real problem.....no exit strategy.  Bush Sr let his generals run the gulf war and look at that monumental ass whoopin'......Bush listened to much to his "advisors"

[pellius]

I remember the inspectors saying "we are making progress" and Bush coming on the news the same day saying that Hussein is leaving him no choice because he isnt cooperating... and the inspectors saying... He is now... and Bush saying, No he isnt....  I wondered at the time if Bush ever communicated with the inspectors because their statements were opposing... Been a long time ago, but I do recall wondering "What the hell?"  

Wrong my friend, the inspectors were kicked out. It was a continual cat and mouse game while they were there. Every intelligence agency believed he had WMDs. We had good reason to believe so because he had them in the past and used them. Against his own people, Iran and the Kurds. He developed a nuclear reactor in the early 1980s that Israel destroyed. And now you want us to take his word that he was clean?

Bush went in front of the UN and essentially said that if you don't act to the continued violations of the UN resolutions, the so called endless "line in the sand", then he, the US, would. The UN once again proved to be a feckless, toothless organization. All Hussein had to do was open up his country like al-Gaddafi did then there would have been no invasion.

If Hussein developed nuclear weapons and used them against Israel, as he said he would, everyone would be yelling why we didn't do anything when all the signs were there.

9/11 did play an indirect role in our invasion of Iraq in the sense that we had to get serious about threats to the US. No more lines in the sand and verbal threats. It was time to start taking action.

[pellius]

9/11 was the impetus 43 used to finish his Father's War. That's not debatable, politics aside.

So what. As I said in my previous post, after 9/11 we could no longer sit back and make idle Clintonian threats. You were wrong when you said that we invaded Iraq after 9/11. We went after Afghanistan, the base of Al Queada.

"Finish his father's war." The war was to get Iraq out of Kuwait. Which we did magnificently. Bush Sr., along with our military leaders had no designs to invade Baghdad. In hindsight many believe that we should have. That we should have changed our mission midstream. After Kuwait we change directions and march right into Baghdad. Maybe. But you can be sure people like you would be yelling and screaming at our imperialist and war like designs. Using Kuwait as an "excuse" to take out Hussein and horde his oil for Halliburton so millionaire Bush and Cheney can be even more of a millionaire and live their luxurious, lavish and self-indulgent life style that you see them doing now.

There was a war to finish. But it wasn't his father's war.
 

[Coach is Back!]

Chimps, that's such horseshit "finish his fathers war" geez!

[dr.chimps]

Chimps, that's such horseshit "finish his fathers war" geez!

Sure, you bet Coach. You channeling Seymour Hersh, now? Got a yellowcake lead?   

/it's all lower case

[pellius]

Let's take care of that dude in Iraq, we will be in and out in a year tops.... Hell, we're already over there, no time like the present...

Fast forward about 6 yrs....

Well, we got the bad dude now what?..

3 more years...

Shit... I don't know... how the hell do we end this..?

Sir, one of the hallmarks of George W. Bush was that he never, ever gave a time line for war. Any war. When the question was posed to Tony Blair and Bush, Blair gave a long, laborious response. Bush stood up and simply said something like, "When we win."

Iraq is a much different and better country than it was before the invasion. People are more free, they even get to vote, girls go to school.... We will have a military presence there for a very long time just like we still have troops in Korea, Bosnia, Germany....

[dr.chimps]

Sir, one of the hallmarks of George W. Bush was that he never, ever gave a time line for war. Any war. When the question was posed to Tony Blair and Bush, Blair gave a long, laborious response. Bush stood up and simply said something like, "When we win."

Iraq is a much different and better country than it was before the invasion. People are more free, they even get to vote, girls go to school.... We will have a military presence there for a very long time just like we still have troops in Korea, Bosnia, Germany....

Although I think the reasons for initiating the 'war' were bogus, I can only believe that a world without Hussein just has to be a better one. I'm looking at you Myanmar, North Korea, Saudi, and a few of you other guys, like Syria, better step in line.  

[Option D]

Chimps, that's such horseshit "finish his fathers war" geez!

President Obama celebrated Veterans Day half a world away, saluting U.S. troops who defended South Korea during its war against the communist North.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/11/2010-11-11_president_obama_marks_veterans_day_in_south_korea_blasts_north_koreas_nuclear_am.html#ixzz150uTNFUq


Are the troops in Korea not as important to be saluted to on Vets day?

[Option D]

President Obama celebrated Veterans Day half a world away, saluting U.S. troops who defended South Korea during its war against the communist North.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/11/2010-11-11_president_obama_marks_veterans_day_in_south_korea_blasts_north_koreas_nuclear_am.html#ixzz150uTNFUq


Are the troops in Korea not as important to be saluted to on Vets day?

BUMP FOR COACH!!!

[dr.chimps]

President Obama celebrated Veterans Day half a world away, saluting U.S. troops who defended South Korea during its war against the communist North.

Are the troops in Korea not as important to be saluted to on Vets day?

Good point. I'll assume that he'll also be pressing the region on the issue of China unpegging it's currency. l

[Soul Crusher]