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Re: Tomorrow is chest day this is my planned routine what are you working tomorr
« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2010, 02:08:31 PM »
True everyone has stuff on their mind but if someone needs a notebook to remember last weeks workout in my opinion ballys or a leisure centre for that person  casual gym for a casual trainer
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« Reply #101 on: December 10, 2010, 02:11:38 PM »
Or that they have more important shit to remember than how much they deadlifted last week and for how many reps...  Or like me, their memory is just bad.

I might have misunderstood you...by "notebook" you actually mean a "laptop" ?

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Re: Tomorrow is chest day this is my planned routine what are you working tomorr
« Reply #102 on: December 10, 2010, 02:14:18 PM »
True everyone has stuff on their mind but if someone needs a notebook to remember last weeks workout in my opinion ballys or a leisure centre for that person  casual gym for a casual trainer

Not at all....I just don't care to even try to remember it.  And the majority of gyms I've belonged to would be considered "serious" gyms by most on here.  Ask Mr. Nobody, he knows where I trained in Winston-Salem.  It was very common to see notebooks.  Here's and example, I don't do the exact same weight, exact same excercise or exact same number of reps at every workout.  Sometimes I will throw in flat db presses for flat bb presses...if I haven't done them for 2 or 3 weeks, I can't remember what weight, sets I did.

I just find it so funny that people think having one has anything to do with being "hardcore or not...."

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Re: Tomorrow is chest day this is my planned routine what are you working tomorr
« Reply #103 on: December 10, 2010, 02:16:19 PM »
I might have misunderstood you...by "notebook" you actually mean a "laptop" ?

haha,,,,,not a laptop, actual notebook to write in.....LOL....... now I see why you thought I was a pansy..... ;D

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« Reply #104 on: December 10, 2010, 02:18:27 PM »
haha,,,,,not a laptop, actual notebook to write in.....LOL....... now I see why you thought I was a pansy..... ;D
jesus christ... ;D I actually thought you were talking about a laptop...and i thought "wtf are these guys talking about"? lol sorry my bad.

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Re: Tomorrow is chest day this is my planned routine what are you working tomorr
« Reply #105 on: December 10, 2010, 02:20:24 PM »
jesus christ... ;D I actually thought you were talking about a laptop...and i thought "wtf are these guys talking about"? lol sorry my bad.

Thats a classic.....I was like, damn I'm a pansy now for writing stuff down?  hahaha,,,,,, awesome !!!

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« Reply #106 on: December 10, 2010, 02:56:08 PM »
Not at all....I just don't care to even try to remember it.  And the majority of gyms I've belonged to would be considered "serious" gyms by most on here.  Ask Mr. Nobody, he knows where I trained in Winston-Salem.  It was very common to see notebooks.  Here's and example, I don't do the exact same weight, exact same excercise or exact same number of reps at every workout.  Sometimes I will throw in flat db presses for flat bb presses...if I haven't done them for 2 or 3 weeks, I can't remember what weight, sets I did.

I just find it so funny that people think having one has anything to do with being "hardcore or not...."

I hear you. I don't do the same workout is a row or same weights but because I'm interested in lifting weights I can remember all my workouts ... And I'm nit a gym rat without a job or other reesponsibilities ...
Maybe that's why I excel when it comes to working out because I put thought into what I'm doing...
If you can't remember what you did a week ago what will you measure your next workout against... What if you forget the notebook... Anyway to each their own
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Re: Tomorrow is chest day this is my planned routine what are you working tomorr
« Reply #107 on: December 11, 2010, 07:02:40 AM »
Bump or weekend workouts
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« Reply #108 on: December 11, 2010, 07:13:24 AM »
Allright meso, today is push day for me, and I will start off with DB Inclines 3*4 and finish with DB Overhead Tri Ext 3*4

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Re: Tomorrow is chest day this is my planned routine what are you working tomorr
« Reply #109 on: December 11, 2010, 07:17:06 AM »
One set for each bodypart?
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« Reply #110 on: December 11, 2010, 07:26:46 AM »
Nah man, usually 3 and sometimes 4 work sets per exercise, but I only do 1 exercise per body part, so it end up being 3 or 4 work sets per body part. For example, on Incline I keep the weight the same for each work set, then when I can complete 3 or 4 sets for 4 reps I bump up da weight for my next workout.

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« Reply #111 on: December 11, 2010, 07:33:56 AM »
3 set per body part do you make gains like that??
Those 3 or 4 reps are those close to your max I mean are you struggling to get those 4 reps
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« Reply #112 on: December 11, 2010, 07:56:32 AM »
Yeah man, those 4 reps are to failure or very near failure, as I said once I can complete 4 reps for each of my 3 or 4 sets then I increase the weight next workout. I practice many of the tenants of HIT, except I perform more than 1 work set, 3 or 4, and I train rather frequently, but my workouts stay brief (under 40 min per workout) and I train to failure or near failure on ALL my work sets. Remember... What it all boils down to is the practice of PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD and it doesn't really matter HOW you practice it, just as long as your training style allows you to practice it. And for me, this style works best in allowing me to apply PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD ;D

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« Reply #113 on: December 11, 2010, 08:18:24 AM »
I can see where that could work on certian excersise possibly bench press
buy on an excercises like barbel curls for you to aim for a four rep max you would almost always be cheating what I'm saying is maxing small muscle groups will always result in cheating
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« Reply #114 on: December 11, 2010, 09:08:50 AM »
Good point man, the reason that I keep my sets at 4 reps or so, is because I get the best muscular response if I keep the total work time per set to under 20 sec, and if I can get 6 or more reps the work time of the set goes past 20 seconds. I'm just getting back into decent condition after a rather long lay-off from serious training. There is another thing about this lo-rep training and that is it is supposed to be "density training" making the muscles very hard and granite-like, so we will see... BTW, I keep da reps a bit higher for legs, usually around 10 to 12.

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« Reply #115 on: December 11, 2010, 09:14:07 AM »
I see I think that technique would be great on bench if someone is trying to bring their chest up or on deadlifts but for like biceps ... Or smaller muscle groups I think it would result in a lot of cheating .. What's your rest time between sets?
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« Reply #116 on: December 11, 2010, 09:33:26 AM »
I rest 3 or 4 min btw sets. I'm not trying to chase "the pump" I'm trying to chase "granite-like" muscle density ;D Or Pull day I do weighted wide-grip chins and DB supination curls. I used to be able to add 50 pounds and get 5 reps, but now I can only get 5 reps with 10 added pounds. But like I said, I'm getting back into condition. Ideally, I'd like to be able to add bout 100 pounds on me for da chins, but then I woke-up LOL

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« Reply #117 on: December 11, 2010, 10:02:43 AM »
Nah man, usually 3 and sometimes 4 work sets per exercise, but I only do 1 exercise per body part, so it end up being 3 or 4 work sets per body part. For example, on Incline I keep the weight the same for each work set, then when I can complete 3 or 4 sets for 4 reps I bump up da weight for my next workout.

Yeah man, those 4 reps are to failure or very near failure, and I train rather frequently, and I train to failure or near failure on ALL my work sets.


 Remember... What it all boils down to is the practice of PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD and it doesn't really matter HOW you practice it, just as long as your training style allows you to practice it. And for me, this style works best in allowing me to apply PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD
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I rest 3 or 4 min btw sets. I'm not trying to chase "the pump" I'm trying to chase "granite-like" muscle density


these are all really good training methods. the bolded part about going to failure i disagree with, because personally i get much better results by staying underneath failure. i stay stronger longer and am able to push more total weight. failure causing alot of fatigue and buuild up of acid in me. maybe your different. but id suggest you try it out, if you havent. (staying a couple reps shy of failure).

the part i made big, thats the most important part. your right. so if going to failure works best for you then keep doing it. i think you might get better results in terms of being able ot gain strength and sized as well by staying shy of failure. one thing though, having very short training sessions willnot be optimal. right now it works good for you because your going to failure and that puts a limit on how many sets you can do before your strength drops and your overtraining. when you stay shy of fialure you can do alot more sets with the same weight before you become fatigued.


the 3-4 minute rest between sets is very good. bodybuilders always train fast and they are very mistaken for doing so so. its about total tonnage first and foremost.

one thing i would say is that you should definitely incorporate higher rep training, not just for your lower body. sticking to reps below 4 is great for building up strength and size too, and i really like the method you use (i do the same thing), however you are missing out on alow of good stuff that comes from higher reps (like 8-12 range) if your not doing them. again, these sets wouldnt be to failure. they would be after your heavy sets, with about 50% or so of what you were using in the heavy sets, and youd just do 2-3 (althoguh you could do more) sets of higher reps. this will pump up your muscles real nice, help with recovery, stimulate some finbers you wouldnt have stimulated otherwise, booost your metabolism, boost your glyocgen stores, maybe help with fascia stretchgin, and increase the number of satellite cells as well. all that scientific mumbo jumbo aside-youll grow better and look better by adding in some high rep sets in addition to your heavy sets.

all in all i can tell you know how to train. :) just smy 2 cents..

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« Reply #118 on: December 11, 2010, 10:25:12 AM »
Thanks for da props tbombz, right now I'm trying to lean out, going at least sub-10 and maybe even sub-7 bodyfat, so wit da hard aerobic HIIT style training dat I hit on da stationary bike, I'm a bit hampered as far as making optimal progress wit da weight training. But once I get quite lean I will cut back on da hard aerobic training and also up da cals a bit, and this will certainly help me to more effectively apply da gospel of PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD ;D I can understand wot your saying bout taking da intensity down a notch, and I actually kinda do this already, since the 1st and usually the 2nd work set isn't to actual failure. And as far as higher rep sets go, I've done them before, and they mainly filled me out more, but they certainly didn't add any granite-like density to ma muscles ;D

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« Reply #119 on: December 11, 2010, 10:28:56 AM »
Thanks for da props tbombz, right now I'm trying to lean out, going at least sub-10 and maybe even sub-7 bodyfat, so wit da hard aerobic HIIT style training dat I hit on da stationary bike, I'm a bit hampered as far as making optimal progress wit da weight training. But once I get quite lean I will cut back on da hard aerobic training and also up da cals a bit, and this will certainly help me to more effectively apply da gospel of PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD ;D I can understand wot your saying bout taking da intensity down a notch, and I actually kinda do this already, since the 1st and usually the 2nd work set isn't to actual failure. And as far as higher rep sets go, I've done them before, and they mainly filled me out more, but they certainly didn't add any granite-like density to ma muscles ;D
but it didnt detract from your granite-like density, did it? fills you out without effecting hardness= good thing, no? 

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« Reply #120 on: December 11, 2010, 10:43:43 AM »
Yeah man, come to think of it, da hi-rep training did kinda give me a softer, but rounder and fuller apperance. I prefer granite-like muscles to rounder and fuller muscles, coz granite-like muscles are much cooler and much more masculine ;D