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« Reply #450 on: May 04, 2011, 05:16:33 PM »
Are you sure that Plato wrote about Socrates before Socrates' death?

Your double standards are comical.  You could apply lot of the stuff you've said about Bin Laden's death, Socrates, etc. to a historical Jesus, but you won't.   You are conveniently inconsistent.

We don't know if Socrates ever existed, nor do we know that about Jesus but in the case of Socrates he is just a metaphor; in antiquity many Christians saw Jesus as a metaphor as well but over the centuries that has changed.
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« Reply #451 on: May 04, 2011, 05:18:34 PM »
From what I've read the live feed was a drone flying overhead so they saw nothing that went down inside the compound. Although you would think that they'd have cameras strapped on at least one of the SEALs. Who knows.

Either way, 240's full of shit.

Exactly... They will eventually get everything clear, but 240 is making up so god damn much shit it's fucking ridiculous.

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« Reply #452 on: May 04, 2011, 05:24:48 PM »

Either way, 240's full of shit.




But, but, but,

He Knows!!

He Knows they weren't using modified silent copters.
He Knows they weren't using silencers and making a loud racket.
He Knows Osama had tons of time.
He Knows the Seal hit him with a precision shot.
He Knows the room was crowded.
He Knows the picture quality and clarity of what the WH was watching


Amazing how much He Knows from sitting down in his trailer in Florida surfing the internet and watching MSNBC.

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« Reply #453 on: May 04, 2011, 05:25:52 PM »



But, but, but,

He Knows!!

He Knows they weren't using modified silent copters.
He Knows they weren't using silencers and making a loud racket.
He Knows Osama had tons of time.
He Knows the Seal hit him with a precision shot.
He Knows the room was crowded.
He Knows the picture quality and clarity of what the WH was watching


Amazing how much He Knows from sitting down in his trailer in Florida surfing the internet and watching MSNBC.

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« Reply #454 on: May 04, 2011, 05:29:19 PM »



But, but, but,

He Knows!!

He Knows they weren't using modified silent copters.
He Knows they weren't using silencers and making a loud racket.
He Knows Osama had tons of time.
He Knows the Seal hit him with a precision shot.
He Knows the room was crowded.
He Knows the picture quality and clarity of what the WH was watching


Amazing how much He Knows from sitting down in his trailer in Florida surfing the internet and watching MSNBC.

Actually, if you look at the rear rotar of the chopper they destroyed...  Check out the rotar and the air cover on it.


It "appeared' silenced.

Either way, it sure as hell wasn't an apache.

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« Reply #455 on: May 04, 2011, 05:38:45 PM »
  Hopefully when they got to him, he was able to at least see the United States Flag on the arm of the soldiers before he was taken out. 

hahahahahah


 you should right a few scripts buddy. That was classic Rambo material.

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« Reply #456 on: May 04, 2011, 05:50:12 PM »
Actually, if you look at the rear rotar of the chopper they destroyed...  Check out the rotar and the air cover on it.


It "appeared' silenced.

Either way, it sure as hell wasn't an apache.

JSOC has their own budget. I'm guessing you're right about the chopper. Probably something none of us know about.

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« Reply #457 on: May 04, 2011, 05:53:45 PM »
Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off.




Does anyone know if this is standard practice?

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« Reply #458 on: May 04, 2011, 05:57:52 PM »
Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off.




Does anyone know if this is standard practice?

Makes sense. Why give the lunatic left a reason to go after these SEALs in a court of law? We've already seen those assholes try that once for just punching a fucking mass-murdering terrorist in Iraq.

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« Reply #459 on: May 04, 2011, 06:02:45 PM »
Makes sense. Why give the lunatic left a reason to go after these SEALs in a court of law? We've already seen those assholes try that once for just punching a fucking mass-murdering terrorist in Iraq.

So video was used in this type of situation before? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the situation you're mentioning above.

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« Reply #460 on: May 04, 2011, 06:07:42 PM »
So video was used in this type of situation before? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the situation you're mentioning above.

Not video but the incident a year or two ago involving the terrorist (forget his name) that was responsible for orchestrating the ambush of those Blackwater guys that were killed, burned and then dragged through the streets before being hung from that bridge in Iraq, and who was also responsible for countless other attacks in Iraq. When the SEALs caught him they apparently roughed him up a bit and he cried about it. Well, I believe Holder decided to have two of the SEALs from the team that caught him brought up on assault charges. The judge thankfully threw it out but it would explain why they would have their cameras "cut out".

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« Reply #461 on: May 04, 2011, 06:40:42 PM »
Obama: "Osama bin Laden is not a trophy," Will NOT Release Photos
Pundit Press ^ | 5/4/11 | Aurelius
Posted on May 4, 2011 1:48:59 PM EDT by therightliveswithus

It is now being reported that President Obama has decided not to release the death photos of terrorist master mind Osama bin Laden.

The news was broken by CBS in a Tweet:



They also linked to an article of theirs, written just minutes before, explaining that the President would not release the photos. They quoted the President as saying:

"The risks of release outweigh the benefits. Conspiracy theorists around the world will just claim the photos are doctored anyway, and there is a real risk that releasing the photos will only serve to inflame public opinion in the Middle East. Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaida killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the internet. Osama bin Laden is not a trophy - he is dead and let's now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaida has been eliminated."

This is surprising news, considering that yesterday out-going CIA director Leon Panetta stated that he thought the pictures would be released.

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« Reply #462 on: May 04, 2011, 07:18:36 PM »
Not video but the incident a year or two ago involving the terrorist (forget his name) that was responsible for orchestrating the ambush of those Blackwater guys that were killed, burned and then dragged through the streets before being hung from that bridge in Iraq, and who was also responsible for countless other attacks in Iraq. When the SEALs caught him they apparently roughed him up a bit and he cried about it. Well, I believe Holder decided to have two of the SEALs from the team that caught him brought up on assault charges. The judge thankfully threw it out but it would explain why they would have their cameras "cut out".

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« Reply #463 on: May 04, 2011, 07:20:20 PM »
China was in on Osama's whereabouts.

Discuss.

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« Reply #464 on: May 04, 2011, 07:21:02 PM »
Something not sitting well w me on this.   I can't explain it exactly. 

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« Reply #465 on: May 04, 2011, 07:21:54 PM »
China was in on Osama's whereabouts.

Discuss.

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« Reply #466 on: May 04, 2011, 09:07:25 PM »
China was in on Osama's whereabouts.

Discuss.



why do u say that?...it would be interesting if true

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« Reply #467 on: May 04, 2011, 09:40:46 PM »


why do u say that?...it would be interesting if true

The further Pakistani and American relations drift, the better China and Pakistani relations strengthen. they both share major strategic interests and Pakistan takes in a lot of military aid from China. Maybe George was referrring to something else though.

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« Reply #468 on: May 04, 2011, 10:22:52 PM »
Looks like the guys around Osama were in fact armed. if you look closely at the guys shoulder, you can see a military style water pistol.


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« Reply #469 on: May 05, 2011, 01:47:53 AM »
Looks like the guys around Osama were in fact armed. if you look closely at the guys shoulder, you can see a military style water pistol.



One photo shows a computer cable and what looks like a child's plastic green and orange water pistol lying under the right shoulder of one of the dead men. A large pool of blood has formed under his head.

U.S. acknowledgment on Tuesday that bin Laden was unarmed when shot dead had raised accusations Washington had violated international law. The exact circumstances of his death remained unclear and could yet fuel controversy, especially in the Muslim world.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_binladen_pakistan_photos

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« Reply #470 on: May 05, 2011, 06:48:20 AM »
'If he's not naked, shoot him': Navy Seals warned Al Qaeda chief could be wearing suicide vest...
Daily Mail ^ | May 5, 2011




Being naked was the only way Osama Bin Laden could have avoided being killed, it emerged today.

The elite U.S. Navy Seals team that killed him was told to assume he was wearing a suicide vest if he was clothed, according to a briefing given to a congressional aide.

The aide - briefed on the rules of engagement - revealed that Bin Laden 'would have had to be naked for them to allow him to surrender'.

The terror mastermind was wearing his nightclothes - believed to be pyjamas - when the commandos stormed his compound in Abbottabad.


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« Reply #471 on: May 05, 2011, 06:50:17 AM »
'If he's not naked, shoot him': Navy Seals warned Al Qaeda chief could be wearing suicide vest...
Daily Mail ^ | May 5, 2011




Being naked was the only way Osama Bin Laden could have avoided being killed, it emerged today.

The elite U.S. Navy Seals team that killed him was told to assume he was wearing a suicide vest if he was clothed, according to a briefing given to a congressional aide.

The aide - briefed on the rules of engagement - revealed that Bin Laden 'would have had to be naked for them to allow him to surrender'.

The terror mastermind was wearing his nightclothes - believed to be pyjamas - when the commandos stormed his compound in Abbottabad.


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


Muslims never get naked..They have sex with turbins and shit on.. ;D

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« Reply #472 on: May 05, 2011, 06:54:06 AM »

White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
by Ulsterman in Issues, May 3, 2011



"What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound."

At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors.  The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me.  When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “…much more confident. Much more certain of himself.”  He was also carrying papers in his hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that evening on the Bin Laden mission.  The president did not have those papers with him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room, where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving congratulations from all who were present.

In my initial communication to you of these events I described what unfolded as a temporary Coup initiated by high ranking intelligence and military officials. I stand by that term.  These figures worked around the uncertainty of President Obama and the repeated resistance of Valerie Jarrett.  If they had not been willing to do so, I am certain Osama Bin Laden would still be alive today.  There will be no punishment to those who acted outside the authority of the president’s office.  The president cannot afford to admit such a fact.  What will be most interesting from here is to now see what becomes of Valerie Jarrett.  One source indicated she is threatening resignation.  I find that unlikely given my strong belief she needs the protection afforded her by the Oval Office and its immense powers to delay and eventually terminate investigations back in Chicago, but we shall see.

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« Reply #473 on: May 05, 2011, 06:59:28 AM »
US troops took away ‘Osama’s son’By Owen Bennett Jones | From the Newspaper
Yesterday
ISLAMABAD, May 3:

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/04/us-troops-took-away-osamas-son.html





Osama bin Laden’s teenage daughter witnessed her father’s death in the compound in Abbottabad according to an ISI official. The girl is now in Pakistani custody together with Bin Laden’s wife. The wife, who speaks only Arabic and who was injured in the attack, said on regaining consciousness that she was Yemeni and that she had been in the compound for a few months.

The official said there were 17 or 18 people in the compound at the time of the attack and that as well as taking Osama bin Laden’s body away the Americans took one person alive — possibly one of his sons.

Four dead bodies were left in the compound. It is believed they are of another son, 2 brothers and a guard.

Those who survived the attack included the wife, the daughter and 8 to 9 other children — not apparently Bin Laden’s but possibly those of his brothers. All those being held in Pakistan will be returned to their countries of origin.

When the Pakistan authorities found the surviving women and children in the compound their hands were bound with plastic tags and it is believed that had one of the American helicopters not malfunctioned then they too would have been taken away.

There were four helicopters involved in the attack: two remained in the air and two landed. The Pakistani authorities recovered some documents from the compound apparently missed by the Americans.

Local officials in Abbottabad said that the ownership of the compound remains unclear as the relevant documentation is in the name of someone with a false identity.

The ISI said that they had no advance warning of the American operation. Between 25 and 40 American personnel were involved in the raid on the compound.

It is believed the American helicopters, possibly fitted with stealth technology, were in the air for about 30 minutes as they moved from Jalalabad to Abbottabad. They were on the ground for 40 minutes before making the return journey.

Asked why they had not checked out a building so close a major military facility the ISI said that the compound had actually been raided when the house was under construction in 2003 when the authorities believed an Al Qaeda operative Abu Faraj Al Libbi was there. On that occasion he escaped.

But since then the house had not been on their radar. However, a satellite image of the site of the compound taken in 2004 shows no sign of any construction work.

ISI officials have accepted that their failure to know Bin Laden was living in Abbottabad was embarrassing but argue that that should be placed against the fact that on many occasions they have identified the locations of senior Al Qaeda operatives and arrested them.

It is not known if anybody had yet claimed the $25 million dollar reward money that the Americans said was on offer for information leading them to Bin Laden

The writer is a BBC correspondent

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Re: Bin Laden dead.
« Reply #474 on: May 05, 2011, 07:01:25 AM »
Something not sitting well w me on this.   I can't explain it exactly. 

I think i could take a stab at it