Phil Heath Has the best arms ever (yes better than coleman)

[mesmorph78]

Yeah, no brachi... 

phil has some great arms for sure

[The Ugly]

My point being, this:

[The Ugly]

... is much more impressive than this:

[JasonH]

I don't think it was that fast as people put it, 9 years?, both Haney and Dorian did it faster, Talk about fast,... genetics,.. Levrone was 24 when he entered a local and 26 as Mr. Olympia runner up, that's what you call coming out of no where.

Good post.

Dorian took 9 years to win his first Olympia (age 30) from when he started training at age 21.

Arnold was even earlier I think - started training at 14 and won his first Mr O in 1970 aged 21 - only a seven year difference. Would be unthinkable to have a Mr Olympia winning the title at that age nowadays.

Not sure about Haney - don't know enough about him.

[yates fan]

haney took about the same time as arnold,lee and arnold also retired by age 35,neither probably reached their full potential.

[LLES]

please stop this!  phil is a pretty bodybuilder, just like flex, shawn, cormier and kevin, but he isn't a mass monster.  compare him to his class.

Dorian waxing that ass

[gh15]

Genetic response to drugs.  Plain and simple.  He is a hyper responder to drugs.  The fact is there are a lot of people in this world that if given steroids and a gym membership can blow up like phil did, but a lot of them are happy not working out, playing basketball on weekends and going to the beach.

If you got 10 million 20 year old men and injected 1 gram of testosterone per week into them and put them all on the same diet and workout regimine you would see a huge difference between them all if you plotted their weight gain on a bell curve.  You'd probably have poor responders in the lower half, the majority would be in the middle and a decent amount in the upper half.  But a lot of people will never know their response to drugs if they never try it.

It's the same as all guys.  Some people can take 1 tylenol and it will knock them to sleep in minutes while others need 2 per hour just to keep their headaches away.  It's just how your body responds to different medication.

B R A V O ,,

exelent pupil!

one correction ,, it is not the testosterona who get you to this blow up ....it is mega dosing of hgh and insulina,, testosterona usualy make you bloofy and sadly SMALLER...unless go with trenbolona and specific aas along with hgh and insulina,,

notice...you never look yuor best on high doses testosterona! ...it is always when you climb on the trenbolona and hgh etc when you start looking freaky seperated cut large and incharge ,, lean and mean when your face take a diff shape to it and is lean yet full ,,

what got philsulina to where he is at is mega dosing of hgh and insulina

gh15 approved

[gh15]

let me explain the posting above,, it is not that testosterona get you smaller,, it is that it get you bloofier and smooth,, if you do it with trenbolona at high dose trenbolona you will increase over all size,, but!

if you do trenbolona and propioneta...then out of trenbolona and go on testosterona long easter even at 2 gram per week....and no trenbolona in blood,, you will slowly and surly lose lean size,, you will lose a lot of impact of physiqe being impressive,, you will gain water on the physiqe slowly and with that will come fat....you will maintain same weigt maybe even maybe higher weight...BUT! you will be smaller! your lean muscle iwll go down few lbs...even if you are on 2 gram testosterona a week

trenbolona is ESENTIAL! to bodybuild,, you just cant be at your best with out it ,, and not only with out it but with out high enough dose that fits you!

gh15 approved

[cephissus]

wow zkk needs to get on the olympia stage

[Parker]

wow zkk needs to get on the olympia stage

They'd wipe the floor with him. Even if he hadn't gotten hurt, and he competed, he has issues with getting in condition, plus his back detail is left wanting...

[Disgusted]

B R A V O ,,

exelent pupil!

one correction ,, it is not the testosterona who get you to this blow up ....it is mega dosing of hgh and insulina,, testosterona usualy make you bloofy and sadly SMALLER...unless go with trenbolona and specific aas along with hgh and insulina,,

notice...you never look yuor best on high doses testosterona! ...it is always when you climb on the trenbolona and hgh etc when you start looking freaky seperated cut large and incharge ,, lean and mean when your face take a diff shape to it and is lean yet full ,,

what got philsulina to where he is at is mega dosing of hgh and insulina

gh15 approved

Exactly why I do not like test usage. I know, I know  everyone is using it and that's fine, but I think that there is a point to where it's a waste prob anything over 750 to 1 gram weekly. I also prefer shorting acting test like prop. Suspension too, but not unless you can find some good micro.Tren EQ Gh and well slin will blow you up. I have a buddy who loves primo for filling him self out along with all the rest of course, but I think that that is more an individual thing.

[Hulkotron]

Good post.

Dorian took 9 years to win his first Olympia (age 30) from when he started training at age 21.

Arnold was even earlier I think - started training at 14 and won his first Mr O in 1970 aged 21 - only a seven year difference. Would be unthinkable to have a Mr Olympia winning the title at that age nowadays.

Not sure about Haney - don't know enough about him.

Haney entered his first Olympia in 1983 at age 24 and won his first Olympia the next year at age 25.  When Haney was Heath's age, he had won 7 straight Olympias and was a year away from retiring.

Ronnie won his first Olympia at the same age that Haney won his last

[The Ugly]

At what age would you say a bodybuilder starts his physical descent?

35 or 36?

[MikMaq]

At what age would you say a bodybuilder starts his physical descent?

35 or 36?

Lol in 1980 arnie said he was very concerned his age(33) might really hold him back
The reason pro's today are older is simply because they need longer sponsorship windows to afford the massive stacks of drugs to compete at even an amateur level. Phil of course was able to rapidly jump through the levels because his marketability aloud him to get the heavy stuff early.

Anyhow all top pro's are responders for the gear, the only difference between him and the others is the rest had to build up sponsors before hitting pro.

[GraniteCityDon]

Zack @ 15.....

[Disgusted]

At what age would you say a bodybuilder starts his physical descent?

35 or 36?

Can happen anytime after 40.

[The Ugly]

Can happen anytime after 40.

Got Jay a little early.

[G_Thang]

Haney entered his first Olympia in 1983 at age 24 and won his first Olympia the next year at age 25.  When Haney was Heath's age, he had won 7 straight Olympias and was a year away from retiring.

Ronnie won his first Olympia at the same age that Haney won his last

ronnie just doesn't fit in this comparison, that's makes him unique.

at 21 ronnie was a junior LB at grambling.

about 2.5 yr later he is starting the police department.

8-9 yrs or so he plays with bbing while buying his first home.

chad or something, than he is mr o.
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phil straight out of DU at gym help desk and on gear.

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yates is a hood rat - bbing.

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jay right out of high school to bbing

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haney out of high school to bbing

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ronnie is closet to phil.  if he had left grambling and hooked up with dopson and dealers of the bat vs a career job, he may have been an 11-13 time mr o.  should have been a 9 for sure.    

[Parker]

Zack @ 15.....

He seems to have high bicep inserts, and now they are fuller, closer to the elbow. What gives, SEO? Because his arms are big, but lack that crisp detailing.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Zack @ 15.....

Holy shit , genetics , genetics , genetics

[njflex]

And it only took Jay 48 hours to fuck it all up.

that's not old pic of jonah hill....

[jude2]

You can't compare the BB of today with King Ronnie at his prime.

[Parker]

Its called the BRACHIORADIALIS the upper forearm muscle that goes up his tricep where the brachialis (outer head of the bicep) should be, In Phil's case its a defect but thanks to all the drugs and lack of quality competition he can get away with it.....





You can look it up in a muscle chart if youre still confused.



WOOOSSSSSHHHHHHH

You tend to make statements, and always get proven wrong
Here is a pic, one two with Darrem showing his Brachs

[Parker]

2nd pic for Pet Shop

[reppingfor20]

gh15, would 2 grams of testosterone /week and 600 mg of tren a, 300mg am, 300mg pm/ day, be a good stack or is that too much tren?