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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2011, 04:24:06 PM »
if you are physically active the GI of carbs is largely irrelevant because your insulin sensitivity is high and the carbs get shuttled into muscle tissue, rather than stored in adipose tissue like if you are sedentary with high insulin resistance. for a bodybuilder, what matters is the total calories and getting enough of the necessary micro and macro-nutrients to allow growth to happen in an environment where there is sufficient stimuli exerted on muscles to induce the growth
Have a loaf or two of bread on me then.............just don`t bitch at me if you put on too much fat.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2011, 04:25:38 PM »
DUMB SHIT BRO.

IF I CAN EAT 40G OF CARBS FROM RICE, WITH MY PROTEIN & FAT AND BE HUNGRY AGAIN FOR ANOTHER MEAL IN 1.5 HRS, WHY WOULD I EAT 40G CARBS FROM OATMEAL AND WAIT EVEN LONGER TO EAT.

MAKE URSELF HUNGRIER, AND THEN EAT. WILL EATING OATMEAL OR RICE ALLOW ME TO CONSUME MORE FOODS AT THE END OF THE DAY?

RICE.
I don`t quite understand your post,but my advice would be to do whatever works best for your particular body and for your particular goals.

Good luck.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #77 on: November 15, 2011, 06:37:34 PM »
It's all macros. I've tried it both ways. In the end, the only thing that matters is total daily macros. I have never eaten less than 5-6 times per day though

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #78 on: November 15, 2011, 07:21:18 PM »
Have a loaf or two of bread on me then.............just don`t bitch at me if you put on too much fat.

bro, i've bulked solely on bread before, eating 500 grams of bread a day and i didn't get "fat" as i still had abs and striations but i did get the hgh gut, from excessive blood glucose levels, that you see on every single pro-bodybuilder who also eats excessive carbs.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #79 on: November 15, 2011, 10:04:10 PM »
bro, i've bulked solely on bread before, eating 500 grams of bread a day and i didn't get "fat" as i still had abs and striations but i did get the hgh gut, from excessive blood glucose levels, that you see on every single pro-bodybuilder who also eats excessive carbs.
Key word being "excessive".....why eat "excessive " carbs?

Plus,who wants a big gut.

Are you a pro bodybuilder?

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #80 on: November 15, 2011, 10:49:36 PM »
well, bread is delicious, no need to clean dishes, wash pots and pans, or cook anything. gut goes away in a week or 2 any ways once you cut down. who the hell wants to bulk on just tuna and oats anyways? fuck that.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #81 on: November 15, 2011, 11:01:49 PM »
Oatmeal
Cream of Wheat
Yams
Potatoes (preferably baked)
Sweet Potatoes
Brown Rice
White Rice
Fibrous vegetables

These are clean carb sources............you can eat other stuff like bread,twinkies,marshmallows,etc., but these are the best carb sources for bodybuilding purposes.
What kind of bread are talking about?
and putting it at the same line with marshmallows  ???

Alpha before counting carbs why wouldn't you take more care about sodium intake?
also your test dose isn't low (i mean if that's low for you i don't even wanna know what's high for you)
and why don't you just spread the gh dosage equally for the whole week?
i see no reason doing all the 5on/ 2off or 4on/3off it doesn't make sense, gh is working just stick and needle and inject it...

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #82 on: November 15, 2011, 11:05:30 PM »
well, bread is delicious, no need to clean dishes, wash pots and pans, or cook anything. gut goes away in a week or 2 any ways once you cut down. who the hell wants to bulk on just tuna and oats anyways? fuck that.
Try steak,eggs,chicken,pasta,cottage cheese,lean ground beef,rice and potatoes bro!!  :)

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #83 on: November 15, 2011, 11:06:59 PM »
What kind of bread are talking about?
and putting it at the same line with marshmallows  ???

Alpha before counting carbs why wouldn't you take more care about sodium intake?
also your test dose isn't low (i mean if that's low for you i don't even wanna know what's high for you)
and why don't you just spread the gh dosage equally for the whole week?
i see no reason doing all the 5on/ 2off or 4on/3off it doesn't make sense, gh is working just stick and needle and inject it...
The marshmallow thing was sarcasm.

I eat bread at times,but I wouldn`t over indulge, and just personally feel that the other carbs I listed are far better.

To each his own.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2011, 12:59:29 AM »
I don`t quite understand your post,but my advice would be to do whatever works best for your particular body and for your particular goals.

Good luck.

MY POINT IS THIS.

IF I HAVE AN APPETITE FOR 8 MEALS A DAY OR 6 MEALS A DAY, WHICH WILL MAKE ME GROW FASTER?

8 MEALS A DAY. THE APPETITE WOULD COME FROM PICKING FOODS THAT MADE ME MORE HUNGRY THAN THE 6 MEALS A DAY ONE, BUT ALSO AND MAINLY DUE TO DRUGS.

IF I HATE OATMEAL INSTEAD OF RICE POST-WORKOUT, I GUARANTEE YOU I WOULD LOSE AT LEAST 1 OR 2 MEALS A DAY DUE TO NO APPETITE. THATS AN EXTRA 400-800 KCAL DROP. BUT AGAIN NO ONE GET ME CONFUSED ITS PURELY THE DRUGS THAT ALLOW YOU TO EAT THIS WAY.
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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2011, 01:02:52 AM »
It's all macros. I've tried it both ways. In the end, the only thing that matters is total daily macros. I have never eaten less than 5-6 times per day though

YOUR MISSING THE POINT THEN.


HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOUR DAILY MACROS. JUST SUPPOSED TO DO THIS 1.5G BW PER CARB, PROTEIN AND .5G PER FAT AND CALL IT A DAY, DIVIDE THAT INTO 5 OR 6 MEALS?

IF WORKOUT DAYS CONSIST OF THAT, BUT.....ON ONE WORKOUT DAY ALL YOU DO IS LIFT AND GO HOME AND SIT ON GET BIG, BUT THE OTHER YOU LIFT, GO OUT CLUBBING, RUN ERRANDS.....THOSE CALORIC DEMANDS THE SAME? NO YOULL BE HUNGRIER ON THAT 2ND DAY.

LET YOUR APPETITE DICTATE YOUR MACROS. ITS REALLY PRESCHOOL STUFF, ITS JUST THESE FANCY GURUS AND ANTI-STEROID BITCHES THAT KILLED IT.
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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2011, 01:30:07 AM »
MY POINT IS THIS.

IF I HAVE AN APPETITE FOR 8 MEALS A DAY OR 6 MEALS A DAY, WHICH WILL MAKE ME GROW FASTER?

8 MEALS A DAY. THE APPETITE WOULD COME FROM PICKING FOODS THAT MADE ME MORE HUNGRY THAN THE 6 MEALS A DAY ONE, BUT ALSO AND MAINLY DUE TO DRUGS.

IF I HATE OATMEAL INSTEAD OF RICE POST-WORKOUT, I GUARANTEE YOU I WOULD LOSE AT LEAST 1 OR 2 MEALS A DAY DUE TO NO APPETITE. THATS AN EXTRA 400-800 KCAL DROP. BUT AGAIN NO ONE GET ME CONFUSED ITS PURELY THE DRUGS THAT ALLOW YOU TO EAT THIS WAY.
OK,I see what you mean now.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2011, 02:14:27 AM »

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2011, 02:23:36 AM »

Almost lost my second cup of coffee on this one!!  LOL  ;D

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2011, 02:28:50 AM »


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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2011, 05:12:31 PM »
909/950/999
Corn will do it can you produce some corn pics BDB?

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #91 on: November 17, 2011, 05:16:07 AM »
Doesn`t build any muscle whatsoever.............. I could care less what kind you buy.

Bread is for children,when you get older you eat oatmeal!!  ;D

Getting older is really messing up your mind wes huh?

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #92 on: November 17, 2011, 05:29:29 AM »
A calorie is not a calorie and a macroinutrient is not just a macronutrient as far as building a good physique goes.

Bread is a simple carb loaded with preservatives and nowhere near as good as slower digesting carbs such as brown rice,yams,oats,etc.

For a quick digesting carb,try dextrose or honey post-workout.

Bread tastes great,but it sux as far as nutrition goes and as a carb source for bodybuilding it flat out blows!!

LOL.  I'm wondering if you're just joking or being serious?  ???

Bread is not a simple carb. What preservatives are you talking about? Many types of bread out there have none in them.
Bread is a great carb source, just as good as any of the others you posted. It is made from wheat, which is a cereal grain. Rice & oats are cereal grains too you know.
The only difference would be fiber content depending on what type of bread you eat.

The sad part is you were unnecessarily confusing some guys in here with the typical broscience "only eat these foods". 

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2011, 08:27:27 AM »
LOL.  I'm wondering if you're just joking or being serious?  ???

Bread is not a simple carb. What preservatives are you talking about? Many types of bread out there have none in them.
Bread is a great carb source, just as good as any of the others you posted. It is made from wheat, which is a cereal grain. Rice & oats are cereal grains too you know.
The only difference would be fiber content depending on what type of bread you eat.

The sad part is you were unnecessarily confusing some guys in here with the typical broscience "only eat these foods". 
Eat whatever you want then,and straighten out all the guys I confused in this thread.

Oh yeah,fuck bread!!  ;D

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2011, 08:48:26 AM »
  You guys on low carb to zero carb diets are crazy. Eating carbs is one of the best things life offers. Ice cream is mostly carbs, so is pizza and candy. It is the most metabolically clean of the three macro nutrients and the most efficient energy source. Getting your energy from either fat or protein creates several problems for your body, such as acidosis, ammonia and uric acid poisoning and liver and kidney exhaustion. It is also debatable if the brain can go indefinitely on ketones without being damaged, or if the liver can turn protein into glucose at a rate that is sufficient to provide the brain with the lactate it needs.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #95 on: November 17, 2011, 08:58:41 AM »
 You guys on low carb to zero carb diets are crazy. Eating carbs is one of the best things life offers. Ice cream is mostly carbs, so is pizza and candy. It is the most metabolically clean of the three macro nutrients and the most efficient energy source. Getting your energy from either fat or protein creates several problems for your body, such as acidosis, ammonia and uric acid poisoning and liver and kidney exhaustion. It is also debatable if the brain can go indefinitely on ketones without being damaged, or if the liver can turn protein into glucose at a rate that is sufficient to provide the brain with the lactate it needs.

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Correct,pasta,ice cream,bread,bagels,pie,etc., ......................al l carb sources............my meaning was "clean" carbs.

Didn`t mean to start a shitstorm,but I like clean carbs better with occasional cheat days/meals thrown for sanitys sake.

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #96 on: November 17, 2011, 09:01:16 AM »
YOUR MISSING THE POINT THEN.


HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOUR DAILY MACROS. JUST SUPPOSED TO DO THIS 1.5G BW PER CARB, PROTEIN AND .5G PER FAT AND CALL IT A DAY, DIVIDE THAT INTO 5 OR 6 MEALS?

IF WORKOUT DAYS CONSIST OF THAT, BUT.....ON ONE WORKOUT DAY ALL YOU DO IS LIFT AND GO HOME AND SIT ON GET BIG, BUT THE OTHER YOU LIFT, GO OUT CLUBBING, RUN ERRANDS.....THOSE CALORIC DEMANDS THE SAME? NO YOULL BE HUNGRIER ON THAT 2ND DAY.

LET YOUR APPETITE DICTATE YOUR MACROS. ITS REALLY PRESCHOOL STUFF, ITS JUST THESE FANCY GURUS AND ANTI-STEROID BITCHES THAT KILLED IT.

I've never bought into the "eat when hungry." On orals, many aren't hungry. Does that mean they shouldn't eat and still expect to grow? I've had a minor cold the last few days and lost my appetite. Know what I did? I ate what I usually do anyway. On fat burners, we lose our appetites as well. We still have to eat.

Having said that, I see your point about needing more calories on more active days. I will adjust my macros based on my daily activity so I do that already. I don't disagree with that at all because I do it too

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #97 on: November 17, 2011, 09:09:21 AM »
 You guys on low carb to zero carb diets are crazy. Eating carbs is one of the best things life offers. Ice cream is mostly carbs, so is pizza and candy. It is the most metabolically clean of the three macro nutrients and the most efficient energy source. Getting your energy from either fat or protein creates several problems for your body, such as acidosis, ammonia and uric acid poisoning and liver and kidney exhaustion. It is also debatable if the brain can go indefinitely on ketones without being damaged, or if the liver can turn protein into glucose at a rate that is sufficient to provide the brain with the lactate it needs.

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your such a fucking idiot. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had to you after this post. From a health perspective, you can not get too much protein. ! It is used to rebuild every cell/tissue in the human body. The more calories that come from protein and fat and the less from carbs, the healthier you will be. The only reason I'm eating carbs is cause gh15 told me to to grow but if I was not bodybuilding and wanted to be as healthy as possible, I would eat fish,fruits, vegetables,chicken ,etcetc and keep carbs as low as I could. Just finished a chocolate bar ;)
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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #98 on: November 17, 2011, 10:36:49 AM »
your such a fucking idiot. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had to you after this post. From a health perspective, you can not get too much protein. ! It is used to rebuild every cell/tissue in the human body. The more calories that come from protein and fat and the less from carbs, the healthier you will be. The only reason I'm eating carbs is cause gh15 told me to to grow but if I was not bodybuilding and wanted to be as healthy as possible, I would eat fish,fruits, vegetables,chicken ,etcetc and keep carbs as low as I could. Just finished a chocolate bar ;)

Says the 19 year old teen that thinks eating carbs causes diabetes, believes in "caveman diets", thinks he has better genetics than Dennis Newman and loves to jack off with his buddy.
 
You're joke buddy.

"I only eat carbs because gh15 said so".....lol........."You cannot eat too much protein".

LOL

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Re: Minimum amount of carbs to eat on a bulk?
« Reply #99 on: November 17, 2011, 10:56:00 AM »
your such a fucking idiot. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had to you after this post. From a health perspective, you can not get too much protein. ! It is used to rebuild every cell/tissue in the human body. The more calories that come from protein and fat and the less from carbs, the healthier you will be. The only reason I'm eating carbs is cause gh15 told me to to grow but if I was not bodybuilding and wanted to be as healthy as possible, I would eat fish,fruits, vegetables,chicken ,etcetc and keep carbs as low as I could. Just finished a chocolate bar ;)

  If you had any idea how stupid and uneducated on Human physiology and biochemistry you come across with this stupid post you just made, you would go away in shame. Too bad your self-confidence is as high as your intelligence is low.

  Getbig is the only place where you get called "stupid" by people with IQs over 50 points lower than yours.

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