Author Topic: Steve Kappra - RIP (Read 10502 times)

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #50 on:** December 04, 2011, 07:06:02 PM »

Dear "uberman" steroids don't kill you, you dumb sonofabitch.

claymore · « **Reply #51 on:** December 04, 2011, 07:13:39 PM »

Quote from: Chick on December 04, 2011, 06:03:31 PM

First, you dont know exactly what caused his death...

second, you could say the same of just about any sport and the risks associated with participating in them...I'm quite sure more guys died playing football this year, then BB...

Probably so, but the NFL reported it

I like how my previous post just disappeared HAHAHAHAHA

TK · « **Reply #52 on:** December 04, 2011, 07:15:55 PM »

Hundreds of thousands of people take steroids, so you can debate it over and over again. Until his family and friends who were at the show give us more information, stop speculating. All we know is that a good man passed away.

People in their 50s die from heart attacks every day, unfortunately.

oliolioli · « **Reply #53 on:** December 04, 2011, 07:16:21 PM »

Quote from: Chick on December 04, 2011, 06:14:34 PM

here are some stats for you:

   In 2006, with an estimated 1.8 million participants in organized football, the survey reported a relatively high 16 indirect deaths but only one fatality directly attributable to football play (a high school running back who suffered a fatal spinal injury when tackled).[5][6]
   A 1994 Ball State University survey found that "players in the 1980s suffered serious injuries and underwent operations at twice the rate of those who played in the 1950s or earlier".[7]
   A 2000 University of North Carolina study found that in the period between 1977 and 1998, each year on average 13 athletes had suffered catastrophic injuries (primarily permanent paralysis) through direct result of participation in football; it also found that between 1977 and 1998 "200 football players received a permanent cervical cord injury, and 66 sustained a permanent cerebral injury".[8]
   An estimated 40,000 concussions are suffered every year among high school players.[9]

Theyre sports...we all take risks, in many different ways. Sometimes, people get hurt, injured, or die....people play/ participate of their own free will...no one tells them what to do and not do...especially a grown man in his 50's.

The difference is that in skydiving, bungee jumping, football, etc the risks and dangers are well known - people go out of their way to educate people on how to avoid them. They don't lie and deny that they dont exist, they try to increase safety through equipment and education. That does NOT happen in bodybuilding. The alchemy of diuretic use is a secret, it's kept in the shadows, and as a result people get hurt or die. You cannot deny that.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #54 on:** December 04, 2011, 07:39:42 PM »

Steroids don't kill you. Hope this helps.

claymore · « **Reply #55 on:** December 04, 2011, 09:07:20 PM »

Quote from: oliolioli on December 04, 2011, 07:16:21 PM

The difference is that in skydiving, bungee jumping, football, etc the risks and dangers are well known - people go out of their way to educate people on how to avoid them. They don't lie and deny that they dont exist, they try to increase safety through equipment and education. That does NOT happen in bodybuilding. The alchemy of diuretic use is a secret, it's kept in the shadows, and as a result people get hurt or die. You cannot deny that.

Very good post !!

Schmoff · « **Reply #56 on:** December 04, 2011, 09:08:19 PM »

shit happens

but RIP

Primemuscle · « **Reply #57 on:** December 04, 2011, 09:30:44 PM »

There are many things which might have contributed to his death. What I think is important to remember is that it is better to do what you love to do, even if it kills you, then it is to never do anything at all. Everyone dies sooner or later.

danabol · « **Reply #58 on:** December 04, 2011, 10:41:27 PM »

Quote from: TK on December 04, 2011, 07:15:55 PM

Hundreds of thousands of people take steroids, so you can debate it over and over again. Until his family and friends who were at the show give us more information, stop speculating. All we know is that a good man passed away.

People in their 50s die from heart attacks every day, unfortunately.

yes but steroids dont help...

anyway.. RIP

notsureifsrs · « **Reply #59 on:** December 05, 2011, 12:34:54 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on December 04, 2011, 06:40:04 PM

andf how exactly will you get the dry tuneled look? lol with anti estrogen? lol diuretics is part of the cult,, fellas use it and will always use it ,, need to be carful and not abuse it as simple as that ,, you cant just expect your lowe back to be rock hard and dry with out them ,, even on them many fuck up and dont get dry because they dotn know how to work them in ,,

we can all go back to look like bil pearl on stage and steve reeves and that will be perect i gues,, problem is EVERYONE need to do it and this wil be going steps backwords,, you wont be dry as simple as that ,, you may be conditioned low bodyfat btu you wont YOU WONT be dry

gh15 approved

At least no one will abuse slin if there is no diuretics.

Vince G, CSN MFT · « **Reply #60 on:** December 05, 2011, 06:13:47 AM »

MB · « **Reply #61 on:** December 05, 2011, 06:54:58 AM »

I use to train at Met-Rx gym and Steve did personal training there, he was always a friendly guy. RIP.

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #62 on:** December 05, 2011, 07:37:15 AM »

Guy looked a bit like Boyer Coe, but with hair...

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #63 on:** December 05, 2011, 11:22:07 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on December 04, 2011, 06:40:04 PM

andf how exactly will you get the dry tuneled look? lol with anti estrogen? lol diuretics is part of the cult,, fellas use it and will always use it ,, need to be carful and not abuse it as simple as that ,, you cant just expect your lowe back to be rock hard and dry with out them ,, even on them many fuck up and dont get dry because they dotn know how to work them in ,,

we can all go back to look like bil pearl on stage and steve reeves and that will be perect i gues,, problem is EVERYONE need to do it and this wil be going steps backwords,, you wont be dry as simple as that ,, you may be conditioned low bodyfat btu you wont YOU WONT be dry

gh15 approved

No, it's not taking a step backwards. Taking a step backwards is whats been happening for the past 20 years. More drugs, less training and less dieting, the polar opposite of what it used to be.

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #64 on:** December 05, 2011, 12:18:04 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on December 05, 2011, 11:22:07 AM

No, it's not taking a step backwards. Taking a step backwards is whats been happening for the past 20 years. More drugs, less training and less dieting, the polar opposite of what it used to be.

X2 !

wes · « **Reply #65 on:** December 05, 2011, 12:26:31 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on December 05, 2011, 11:22:07 AM

No, it's not taking a step backwards. Taking a step backwards is whats been happening for the past 20 years. More drugs, less training and less dieting, the polar opposite of what it used to be.

X 3

buffdnet · « **Reply #66 on:** December 05, 2011, 03:17:59 PM »

Quote from: uberman on December 04, 2011, 05:58:27 PM

Funny that only guys in their 50s and on steroids are sad about this "event".

your half right. i'm 55 never touched a steroid in my life.
drugs did not kill the man. he died from having a passion.
I rectum you don't get that though

sean · « **Reply #67 on:** December 06, 2011, 07:40:44 PM »

Is this the first guy to ever die on stage? A lot have died before the contest in getting prepped, but ON STAGE???

Marty Champions · « **Reply #68 on:** December 06, 2011, 08:41:57 PM »

why would people inject themselves with a needle risking alone all the shit that can go wrong if you dont inject properly that alone is enough risk to take. let alone inject a substance

takes a real smart guy to do that IMO

dyslexic · « **Reply #69 on:** December 06, 2011, 08:44:40 PM »

Good thing most folks don't enjoy driving head-on into opposing traffic then....

Marty Champions · « **Reply #70 on:** December 06, 2011, 08:57:39 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on December 04, 2011, 07:06:02 PM

Dear "uberman" steroids don't kill you, you dumb sonofabitch.

they overstress the heart, make for bad lipid profile. just be a normal person and youll find life is pretty decent without the stuff

MrBigandCut · « **Reply #71 on:** December 07, 2011, 01:12:08 AM »

ALCOHOL AND CIGS KILL MORE PEOPLE YEAR ON YEAR THAN ANY OTHER DRUG AND YET PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE DOES ONE OR THE OTHER!!!

claymore · « **Reply #72 on:** December 07, 2011, 01:46:54 PM »

R.I.P Steve

Ron · « **Reply #73 on:** December 07, 2011, 02:17:14 PM »

R.I.P. Steve -

I was at the NPC Excalibur taking pics, and before prejudging ever started, we heard of a competitor falling down outside of the building, and people rushing to take care of him. Talking to friends a few days later, the ambulance came quick, and rushed him away, all before the contest began. We didn't know if he was ok or not. Sadly, not.

There will be a Moment of Silence for Steve at the next contest at the Culver City Veterans Auditorium, which will be held on April 14th. I cannot recall that someone passing away before a contest here in Southern California ever.

From his friends, we do know that Steve loved bodybuilding and that he will be missed.

I will be there in April at the 2012 NPC Amateur Grand Prix.

bentone · « **Reply #74 on:** December 07, 2011, 03:07:12 PM »

A moment of silence is nice but what will be done going forward to better minimize the risk of having this happen again? Nearly every competitor on stage is dehydrated and the difference between being healthy on stage and being near death is a razor thin margin. Several years ago I had nearly the same outcome as Steve. After the prejudging of another show, I started cramping, having abdominal bloating, slurred speech and fuzzy vision. I knew I was too dehydrated and could not get down water fast enough. Knowing what was going on a family member rushed me to an urgent care where I got I.V. fluids.

As I was being rushed in an ambulance to the emergency room the paramedic told me that had I come in even an hour later that I would have suffered total internal organ failure and died. Like anyone who steps on stage we each take accountability for what we have choosen to do to get in this sort of condition this however does not exonerate those who run the shows from taking precaution and consideration for the competitors. If the NPC mandates the presense of an EMT on site at shows then the promoter of this show has accountability for what happened. The cost of an EMT could be easily afforded considering the massive number of people who pay to compete at shows like this.