Followed the ''Adonis Principles '' for 8 weeks (pics)

[The True Adonis]

 DK is right. Adonis is a fucking moron. Calories are the only thing that matters if we are talking about gene repair activation, in which case the lower the calories the more telomere regeneration occurs.

  At the exact same number of calories, two different diets will produce completely different markers of body inflammation, markers of oxidative stress, plasma apo-lipoprotein profiles and amounts of urea, uric acid and ammonia which indicates body alkalinity/acidity, liver enzyme activity and levels of creatinine which indicates liver and kidney health.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Which is why my method of eating is far superior as there is endless variance via endless food choices.  No limits.

[suckmymuscle]

Which is why my method of eating is far superior as there is endless variance via endless food choices.  No limits.

  Not really. It is pretty easy to deduce that boiled skinless chicken breasts with brown rice and broccoli is better for you when calories are equal than hamburgers, French fries and pizza. Less saturated fats and Sodium, more anti-inflammatory phytochemicals and fiber, etc. There isn't a single physiologist or biochemist in the World who would agree with you that your choice of foods are as good as those of traditionally clean diets even if you adjust for calories. If you want, I can provide you with plenty of evidence of the effects on Human physiology of different fatty acids, amino acids, carbohydrates, etc.

  Now, for extreme health improvements and life extension, then yes, calories are all that matters. If you eat only 500 calories a day of hamburgers, you will have better health and live longer than someone who eats 3,000 calories a day of skinless chicken breast, brown rice and broccoli. When calories drop below 1,000 a day, gene and cellular repair are activated to an astonishing degree and what you eat becomes meaningless.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[aesthetics]

better in what sense, SMM? what appreciable difference will someone have by eating nothing but the most bland and "healthy" food all their life as opposed to occasionally eating a hamburger? besides being miserable, of course.

[suckmymuscle]

better in what sense, SMM? what appreciable difference will someone have by eating nothing but the most bland and "healthy" food all their life as opposed to occasionally eating a hamburger? besides being miserable, of course.

  Only in terms of health, of course. I agree that life is short and there is nothing wrong with eating a hamburger a few times a month. In moderation, this will not harm your health. Except of course if you eat burgers with buns that have partially hydrogenated fats in them. In this case, every time you eat you will be doing significant damage to your cardiovascular system. Saturated fat and sugar are not harmful as long as you don't make them a regular part of your diet.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[The True Adonis]

Can you make me a detailed comparison between Beef Bourguignon and your boiled Chicken Breast meal.  I have 100 percent confidence that 500 calories of Beef Bourguignon is better than your boiled nonsense nutrition wise and obviously taste wise.  Here is the ingredient list for Beef Bourguignon.

Thanks.

8 ounces bacon , chopped
4 pounds beef stew meat (preferably chuck) in 1 ˝” cubes.
1 large onion, chopped fine
2 carrots, peeled and chopped fine
8 garlic cloves, minced
2 teaspoons chopped fresh thyme leaves
4 tablespoons tomato paste
2 1/2 cups Pinot Noir
1 1/2 cups low-sodium chicken broth
1/3 cup soy sauce
3 bay leaves
3 tablespoons Minute Tapioca
3 tablespoons minced fresh parsley leaves
20 fresh boiler or pearl onions
10 oz white mushrooms, quartered
2 lbs of Russet Potatoes or Yukon Gold

[The True Adonis]

When you are done with that one, can we compare the overall nutritional value of 500 calories of Chicken Tikka Masala to your boring Boiled Breast Bullshit meal.
Thanks in advance.
Here is the ingredient list:  

INGREDIENTS
Chicken Tikka
1/2 teaspoon ground cumin
1/2 teaspoon ground coriander
1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon table salt
2 pounds boneless, skinless chicken breasts , trimmed of fat
1 cup plain whole-milk yogurt (see note above)
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 medium garlic cloves , minced or pressed through a garlic press (about 2 teaspoons)
1 tablespoon grated fresh ginger

Masala Sauce
3 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 medium onion , diced fine (about 1 1/4 cups)
2 medium garlic cloves , minced or pressed through a garlic press (about 2 teaspoons)
2 teaspoons grated fresh ginger
1 fresh serrano chile , ribs and seeds removed, flesh minced (see note above)
1 tablespoon tomato paste
1 tablespoon garam masala (see note above)
1 (28-ounce) can crushed tomatoes
2 teaspoons sugar
1/2 teaspoon table salt
2/3 cup heavy cream
1/4 cup chopped fresh cilantro leaves

[cephissus]

  clash of the titans in this thread

[Marty Champions]

and I look like absolute shit 


No supplements
I consumed the same amount of calories
I went from 6 meals a day to 3 meals a day.
Protein from 180gr to 100gr .
Replaced  sweet potatoes,oatmeal, brown rice, pasta......etc.   for ice cream ,doughnuts ,chocolate....etc.
I lost muscle and gained fat
I went from a solid 173lbs  to skinny fat  175lbs.

I forgot how important nutrition is in natural '' bodybuilding''
There you have it ,the ''Adonis principles'' are shit, I hope this helps

Fuck you Adonis , flame on fags.

just water weight gain from the carbs . you have more potential energy

[dj181]

just water weight gain from the carbs . you have more potential energy

FACT

[Marty Champions]

FACT

i remember the days of eating protien along side of low calories. id always be wathing that lower ab area fluctuate. if i went to a club and partied my ass off doing alot of dancing and not drinking too much beer id lose that lower ab chunkyness

[Tito24]

chunky chicks with big dicks

[_bruce_]

You look way better now.

[che]

You look way better now.

Thank you Bruce , I really appreciate it .

[Tito24]

no you look worse

[che]

no you look worse

No hard feelings  Tito24.

[Tito24]

no hard penis

[che]

no hard penis

Settle down stud ,you don't want to get hurt.

[no one]

thanks for posting this che and proving what we have known for years- 'true adonis' is full of shit, and has no clue what hes talking about.

it's funny how the rapid decline you went thru is all 'your fault' when all you did was follow his advice.

[Stavios]

no you look worse

 

[che]

thanks for posting this che and proving what we have known for years- 'true adonis' is full of shit, and has no clue what hes talking about.

it's funny how the rapid decline you went thru is all 'your fault' when all you did was follow his advice.

Indeed , the Adonis principles went from '' A calorie is a calorie, it's too easy, I eat whatever the fuck I want, whenever I want " , to a fucking diet that unless you are a  scientist, engineer or mathematician ,you will never be able to figure it out    

[Stavios]

Indeed , the Adonis principles went from '' A calorie is a calorie, it's too easy, I eat whatever the fuck I want, whenever I want " , to a fucking diet that unless you are a  scientist, engineer or mathematician ,you will never be able to figure it out    

yeah but Adonis posted recent quality pictures of his physique to prove that his diet works year after year

oh wait 

[Shockwave]

Indeed , the Adonis principles went from '' A calorie is a calorie, it's too easy, I eat whatever the fuck I want, whenever I want " , to a fucking diet that unless you are a  scientist, engineer or mathematician ,you will never be able to figure it out    

Not to mention he said you didnt do anything he said, and when you pointed out you counted your calories, his rebuttal was "No you didnt youre too stupid to count calories"  
Epic defense. I have no doubt that would hold up in court, full of hard evidence and proof that you were lieing, but he isnt. Lol.

[Twaddle]

yeah but Adonis posted recent quality pictures of his physique to prove that his diet works year after year

oh wait 

Yes, yes.  His sunflower, and antique chair were looking quite shredded.   

[Shockwave]

Epic. lulz.
When you pointed out that you counted your calories and just ate whatever you wanted within those calories -

You did not count calories, weigh any food nor did you have any idea what you were doing.  You do not know what you are doing.  Sorry, you did not follow anything I have ever said, you just simply made it up as you went along.  Obviously counting calories is out of your intellectual realm so therefore it is "rocket science" to you.

Yeah, you must be lieing Che, what he stated here is such obvious proof that his outlandish claims of eating whatever you want didnt fail, it must be you.  

[Coach is Back!]

You did not count calories, weigh any food nor did you have any idea what you were doing.  You do not know what you are doing.  Sorry, you did not follow anything I have ever said, you just simply made it up as you went along.  Obviously counting calories is out of your intellectual realm so therefore it is "rocket science" to you.

By your logic, the entire world is basically on "The Adonis Principles".


Anyways, I care not what you do.  You can use all the Bro-Science you want for the rest of your life if it makes you feel better.

Yes....che should have weighed his donut and twinkies. That would have solved everything.