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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 09:24:19 AM »
  Cock Train's ignorance starts with his statements about bears being "1,500 lbs monsters". Actually, grizzlies average 800 lbs with half that weight being bodyfat, and only the largest Kodiak bears and polar bears would weight in at 1,500 lbs. Black bears are much smaller at around 350 lbs. And mountain gorillas in the wild can be up to 500 lbs with almost no fat in their bodies.

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 09:25:33 AM »
The gorilla vs bear topic comes up on almost every steroid/bodybuilding board, I wonder why that is.

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 10:08:37 AM »
Don't even get me started. I will be posting my Gorilla Vs Bear analyses that I have been working on for 3 years now. It goes for 20 pages and has enormous evidence to back it up and reasonable speculations and conclusions.

An excercise in futility, gorilla whisperer. An alpha brown bear or polar bear would be too much for the largest, most aggressive silverback.

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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 10:11:43 AM »
Hahahahaha!- A 20 page postion paper backed up by 3 years worth of conjecture on Gorilla vs Bear.  I have seen and heard of some epic wastes of time during my internet travels, but that one takes the cake!

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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2012, 10:13:20 AM »
 Don't even get me started. I will be posting my Gorilla Vs Bear analyses that I have been working on for 3 years now. It goes for 20 pages and has enormous evidence to back it up and reasonable speculations and conclusions.
 
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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2012, 10:14:10 AM »
This killer tried to kill me just last week. I barely escaped. Get it. . . barely escaped.
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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2012, 10:23:35 AM »

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2012, 10:31:26 AM »
This is what size can do. I'm sorry for every gorilla that crosses the path with a huge bear.


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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2012, 11:02:52 AM »
  Oh fuck, this post had to come from Cock Train.

  Don't even get me started. I will be posting my Gorilla Vs Bear analyses that I have been working on for 3 years now. It goes for 20 pages and has enormous evidence to back it up and reasonable speculations and conclusions.

  Let's just say that Cock Train is wrong about this, which is not surprising since he doesen't know shit about fighting in general as his MMA posts demonstrates, and his ignorance about human fighting extends into the animal kingdom as well. ;D

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2012, 11:09:32 AM »
<<  insert Suckmens'manhood's long-winded 3 paragraph google search of "silverback attributes">>

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2012, 11:39:04 AM »
I remember reading and seeing pictures of the aftermath of a battle between leapard and silverback. They killed each other! Maybe I'll dig it up. A grizzly bear or a Kodiak would be significantly stronger than a leopard.

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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2012, 11:41:58 AM »

I wonder how much they paid Ronnie to be in that clip for ???
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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2012, 11:48:58 AM »
I remember reading and seeing pictures of the aftermath of a battle between leapard and silverback. They killed each other! Maybe I'll dig it up. A grizzly bear or a Kodiak would be significantly stronger than a leopard.

are you saying all silverbackshave equal abilities and they all react the same to everything that pose a threat? Or what would it prove if it did happen..

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« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2012, 11:54:02 AM »
are you saying all silverbackshave equal abilities and they all react the same to everything that pose a threat? Or what would it prove if it did happen..

Oh oh it's going to become a debate of the silverbacks skill. Lol

A leapard is far weaker than a Kodiak, so even if the weakest silverback is the equal of a leapard, I highly doubt the strongest silverbacks will be able to make up the gap to defeat a kodiak

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2012, 12:03:46 PM »
Grizzley/Kodiak > Silverback.


End of debate.

Hopefully end of annoying thread too.

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2012, 12:04:08 PM »
:D

You can tell that article was fake: "850 pound black bear", they don't get that big.
"27 inch phallus"---hahahaha

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2012, 12:07:09 PM »
Oh oh it's going to become a debate of the silverbacks skill. Lol


hell no. about as interesting as the stupid cartoon arguments lol "superman vs bla bla bla" would have could have should have.
Well, the cartoon arguments are more stupid since its just play pretend. At least these animals exists. And no one just drew them and Pretended what they could and couldn't do. And then people argue about it lol. reminds me of .....religion.

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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2012, 12:16:05 PM »
hell no. about as interesting as the stupid cartoon arguments lol "superman vs bla bla bla" would have could have should have.
Well, the cartoon arguments are more stupid since its just play pretend. At least these animals exists. And no one just drew them and Pretended what they could and couldn't do. And then people argue about it lol. reminds me of .....religion.

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« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2012, 01:41:52 PM »
<<  insert Suckmens'manhood's long-winded 3 paragraph google search of "silverback attributes">>

   Actually, it is you who stalks every MMA thread I start or post on and then meltdown epically to everything I say. Remember my Machida Vs Jones fight analyses, to which you responded beggining with "Fuck you" and then proceeded to call me all sorts of shit over an MMA opinion? ;) I own your mind, Cockl Train, and we both know it. ;)

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2012, 01:46:02 PM »
<<  insert Suckmens'manhood's long-winded 3 paragraph google search of "silverback attributes">>

  I have read 27 books on gorillas and other primates and watched literally hundreds of hours of scientific documentaries on them. I have also been to Rwanda and spent 3 weeks studying them. I think that the amount of knowledge I have on gorillas surpasses what one can gain from just reading Wikipedia and googling the word "gorilla".

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2012, 01:53:45 PM »
I remember reading and seeing pictures of the aftermath of a battle between leapard and silverback. They killed each other! Maybe I'll dig it up. A grizzly bear or a Kodiak would be significantly stronger than a leopard.

  There is no evidence whatsoever that any adult male gorilla has ever been killed by a leopard. Period. There was a case of a very large leopard at close to 300 lbs who ambushed and killed a black back - a gorilla before puberty. So basically, an abnormally large leopard killed a gorilla of primary school age. Who gives a shit? Does this mean an average leopard at 200 lbs would be able to kill a mountain gorilla at 450 lbs? The leopard wouldn't even try, because instinctivelly it understands what would happen if it did. In fact, lowland gorillas are smaller than mountain gorillas and live close to lions who are much larger than leopards, and lions don't even try hunting gorillas even when there are none of their prey around and they are starving. What does that tell you?

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2012, 01:59:09 PM »
Grizzley/Kodiak > Silverback.


End of debate.

Hopefully end of annoying thread too.

  Actually:

  Mountain gorilla >>>>>>>>>>> any bear under 1,200 lbs, which includes 99% of grizzlies and 90% of Kodiak bears.

  I don't think you idiots understand just how powerful gorillas are, and how effective their morphology is for fighting.

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2012, 02:06:21 PM »
Actually, neither would or have met in the wild. And, Grizzlies, Kodiaks are effective killers---they may forage, but they also kill for their food. Gorilla's don't .
So, even though, they would never meet in the wild, the animal that is used to killing, would probably have the upperhand.

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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2012, 02:15:57 PM »
Actually, neither would or have met in the wild. And, Grizzlies, Kodiaks are effective killers---they may forage, but they also kill for their food. Gorilla's don't .
So, even though, they would never meet in the wild, the animal that is used to killing, would probably have the upperhand.

  I agree that if a gorilla and a bear met, the bear would be the aggressor, but it does not follow the gorilla wouldn't fight after attacked. All animals fight to live. Even buffalo, who are graminous animals, fight their predators when attacked. Also, gorillas are nasty when enraged. The expression "going ape shit" exists for a reason...and the gorilla is actually more formidably armed than the bear. The bear has as it's only weapons claws that wouldn't do any damage to the gorilla unless the bear swiped at the throat. The gorilla has two 2" canines and a bite pressure powerful enough to perforate trees until the pith, arms that can bash with the power of a sledge hammer and dexterous, human-like hands that can use rocks and sticks as weapons or grab limbs and tear them apart. In facts, gorillas have been seen throwing rocks during fights.

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Re: Grizzly bear attack...
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2012, 02:16:41 PM »
I've seen King Kong.

I've seen Winnie the Pooh.

Just saying.