Roulette - has anyone cracked the code?

[Jon Harridan]

This nifty little tool, though unnecessary, serves as a good aid too when I want some 'side cash'.

http://www.roulettepsychic.com/

[reppingfor20]

Jon, you rolling in a Ferrari yet?

[tommywishbone]

A nice hit for me a few months ago in Las Vegas.

[stuntmovie]

Tommy, I got 4 four-of-a-kinds yesterday at the Palms, but I was playing the penny slots with five cents in.

That's a nice win you got on a $2 bet. I hope you didn't put it all back in or spend more than that amount before you hit it. What casino was that?

I guess you've already noticed that one pair and two pair pay the same amount.
I always keep the highest pair, throw the other pair away and hope for three or four of a kind.

What casino were you in Tommy and was it crowded or not. Last midweek visit in the Tahoe area .... the casinos were just about empty ... including the Crystal Bay clubs.

We used to play Blackjack in those casinos at the age of 18 while the security guys used to stand by the front door looking for the 'sheriff' and rush us into the coffee shop at the first moment he was sighted.

And as soon as he left we were lead back to the tables.

Fun days!

BACK TO THE ROULETTE TABLE AND 'SYSTEMS'....

JOH ... Maybe this might help you out a bit before you try your system in a real live casino.

Here are the roulette numbers as they actually ‘came up’ during the 45 minutes or so while I was observing at the PALMS casino this afternoon here in Las Vegas after seeing LOCK UP ... a pretty damn good movie.

I’ll list the first 15 numbers that came up (colors included) so that maybe you can discover ‘something’ that will show you what numbers or colors, etc that you would bet on over the next ten spins of the wheel. (I have those winning numbers on paper also as they were actually ‘played’.)

8   Black
4   Black
7   Red
15    Black
24    Black
14    Red
26    Black
21    Red
23    Red
35    Black
28    Black
   1   Red
26    Black
24    Black
34    Red

Would this give you enough information to make your next few bets?

I have a list of the next ten numbers that came up over the next ten spin.

If you get five of those ten correct, your system is good enough to break even provided you bet the same amount on each spin of the roulette wheel.

        

[polychronopolous]

POLY,

That sounds like Diamonds Are Forever released in  1971 but I can recall the Las Vegas Strip ten years earlier when you could not find the road on windy days due to the desert sand covering it.

And the small two story hotel/motels were a half mile apart with 4x8 plywood boards on vacant desert lots in between those hotel/motels advertising Strip-front acreage at $300 each.

Much later on I was told that all that desert road-front property was owned by Mae West and W.C. Fields.

One hot day I got out of the car to take a closer look at some roadside dirt and the melting tarmac sucked off my shoe and fought my struggle to get it back.

Back then that road was just   desert dirt and a melting two lane roadway. I don’t recall if it was called The Strip back then. I sort of recall that it was known as the “Road to LA”, but I could be wrong.

Three or four of those early day casinos would have nice looking but non-electric , wooden sigms letting drive-bys know that it was cool inside and that you could eat all you wanted for 99 cents. I can’t recall if the word “buffet” was even used in those early days.

At Doc’s place (the Hacienda) you could drink cold Champaigne free of charge from a silver fountain which flowed all day long.

And each hotel/casino on that roadway to LA had greeters who would meet and greet you with open arms and hardy handshakes as soon as you entered the front door. Some of those greeters were major stars or sport personalities. I think George Raft bought us a few rounds one night upon our arrival at the Sands.

And if you wore your military uniform or had a Marine Corps haircut, you were treated as though you were royalty with a persomal escort to the bar where drinks were always on the house.

And soon enough the booz encouraged us to give Lady Luck a try while the Pit Bosses would always look over us and offer good advice and inform us when it was time to return to the bar to recharge our batteries befoe  our next assault on Lady Luck.

There was a war on someplace and we were active combat participants and this was the casino’s way of expressing there appreciation and gratitude ...... and a $60 to a $100 win due to the help of these casino civilians was big bucks back then and truly appreciated.,

And we never hit the rack without some major casino ‘boss’ giving us his card and informing us that arrangement had been made for us Marines at the next casino down the road.

Back in those days Las Vegas had the reputation of being a service town … and that was exceptionally evident to us  US service guys.

It can never be the same again but if I ever get the opportunity to show these hotel and casino owners how it was done back then, it would all change for the better for each of us.

Back then you could go downtown to Fremontr Street and tie your ass to hitching post if you could finf a vacant one or one that an old desert prospector was saddleing up to head back to God knows where to search for something that would be utterly worthless today.

One major thing that today’s casinos have forgotten to do …. Back then the casino owners or the major casino figurehead would walk the casino floor greeting his ganbling customers and slip a roll of nickels or a roll of dimes into their hands with a hardy, “Good luck!” and a. “Welcome to the Horseshoe! Thanks for coming in!”

That’s done no longer, but it sure as hell should be.

The last casino owner I’ve seen on the floor greeting his customers was Bob Stupak at the old Vegas World over ten years ago., but instead of a roll of nickles, he only offered a Polish hot-dog and a few words of encouragement.

Now-a-days it’s entirely different and Las Vegas visitors don’t expect too much when it cones to service. That’s most likely brcause they have no idea what kind of town Las Vegas use to be. They even play Blackjack where the casinos pay even money instead of 3-2. (A very dumb thing indeed!)

I recall driving from Camp Pendleton one summer afternoon in a little convertible sports car without the ‘roof' .... and reaching Baker when it was 115 degrees and purchasing a 100 pounds of ice which we dunped on the seats in an attempt to keep cool.

And driving the last 50 miles into town in first gear because the deserrt wind blew some desert dirt into our vacunn shift mechanism.

And many hours later we pulled into the fountain filled driveway of a brand bew hotel called Caesars Palace … hot and tire and dripping wet … and…

The valet guy sees us creeping up his beautiful fountain filled driveway first gear and says, “Having car problems, sir??

And before I can say, “Yes, you dumb shit” ….. he says, “It’ll be fixed and ready for you by 10 AM. Will you be needing transportation this evening, sir?”

That’s the kind of town Las Vegas used to be!

It’s got a lot to learn …. Once again.

Its gotta start over or it'll wither away like an old desert bone.

You got some of the very best stories on getbig. Love reading your posts.

[stuntmovie]

POLY, Thanks!

[disco_stu]

You must possess the wits of a llama indeed; I'm talking about roulette here. Don't tell me even your puny brain can't come up with something studying the roulette board and the numbers that come up.

lol. i feel for your children...but, society needs the dumb ones to even it all out and make it possible to live well.

so i thank you for living in that respect.

u mustnt have read my post completely.

btw the chance of a streak of 10 in a game of roulette is 0.05%..thats 18/37^10 approx.

in other words, no chance.

If you really think theres a way to beat these games, then you are a fool. period..end of story..

it also means that u just dont "get it".

[tommywishbone]

Stunt! I was at Harvey's South Shore last Fri - Mon.  Great weather, nobody else there.

[stuntmovie]

TOMMY, I used to own some properties in what is now INCLINE and trekked all the High Sierra wilderness in the Tahoe area and other family members are still in the process of completing the Pacific Crest Trail from somewhere in or by Canada through the Sierra  down to somewhere near Mexico.

We've been threatened by cats, two bears, birds (yep), and even rescued by the RANGERS under adverse weather conditions... long story!

I've seen a lot of the real wilderness and the scenery is more  amazing around every bend.

Friends have summer cabins on small lakes up there where the land was actually given to their grandparents free for posperity but impossible to trek to during the snow season.

 One large parcel near the Summit has been owned by a family since the late 1800's when it was used during the summer to graze a herd of cattle.

Probably the most beautiful piece of lakefront property throughout the HIGH sierra. WILL POST PHOTOS.

Did you ever visit Thunderbird Loge?

[Jon Harridan]

lol. i feel for your children...but, society needs the dumb ones to even it all out and make it possible to live well.

so i thank you for living in that respect.

u mustnt have read my post completely.

btw the chance of a streak of 10 in a game of roulette is 0.05%..thats 18/37^10 approx.

in other words, no chance.

If you really think theres a way to beat these games, then you are a fool. period..end of story..

it also means that u just dont "get it".

You dumbass, it looks like you've simply lost hope on beating the games a long time ago. Don't suck people into your spell of negativity. I read your posts, and they are all ridiculous nonsense. It's not that I'm dumb that you can't understand what I'm saying, but that you're the lackwit here. I'm trying to exploit whatever chance the player has at the games, and it takes a genius to do that, certainly not one who has resigned himself to defeat. By the way, I've FOUND A WAY to beat the game of roulette, and that's a FACT, which means you're the fool, going by the own crap you spewed.

[avxo]

Good grief, are you still trolling in this thread Jon Harridan?

You dumbass, it looks like you've simply lost hope on beating the games a long time ago.

I'll repeat this again, although chances are you won't understand it any better now than you did the first time around: You can't beat any of the chance games. That's why they're called chance games. The game is random and the odds are against you. It's simple fucking mathematics!

By the way, I've FOUND A WAY to beat the game of roulette, and that's a FACT, which means you're the fool, going by the own crap you spewed.

You haven't found jackshit. See above.

[Jon Harridan]

Good grief, are you still trolling in this thread Jon Harridan?



I'll repeat this again, although chances are you won't understand it any better now than you did the first time around: You can't beat any of the chance games. That's why they're called chance games. The game is random and the odds are against you. It's simple fucking mathematics!


You haven't found jackshit. See above.

I told you, I've found the code means I've found the code, which shows many here to be absolute fools for giving up so easily. Do you understand simple English with what I said? Since you seem not to, that means you're A CERTIFIED MORON. The mathematics says that you DO have a chance in certain games, YOU JACKASS! It's simple mathematics, after all. Of course, the dealer also has a chance, but that's beside the point. What's wrong with the brains of people here, I wonder.

[Jon Harridan]

lol. i feel for your children...but, society needs the dumb ones to even it all out and make it possible to live well.

so i thank you for living in that respect.

u mustnt have read my post completely.

btw the chance of a streak of 10 in a game of roulette is 0.05%..thats 18/37^10 approx.

in other words, no chance.

If you really think theres a way to beat these games, then you are a fool. period..end of story..

it also means that u just dont "get it".

By the way, I've heard of a particular colour coming up in a row 23 times, and fact is fact. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

[Karpaasi]

Fellows, I've just figured out some revolutionary new roulette systems! You bet either on 1-18, plus the 2nd 12 and 3rd 12, or 19-36, plus the 1st 12 and 2nd 12. You alternate between these two options.

I just want you to see that everything comes down to same old 97.3%. Lets say we put 1$ to those you mentioned so in total 3$/round.

You would win 2$ if it comes to first twelve numbers. You would win 5$ dollars if 13-18. 3$ 19-36.

So in total 2x12+5x6+3x18=108 There are 37 numbers in roulette. 3x37=111

108/111=97.3%

People are greedy by nature so you can imagine there has been a lot of people in 500 years of roulette's history who have tried to beat those odds. The numbers and colors on the board are just an illusion that people would think they have a choice.

[Jon Harridan]

Tommy, I got 4 four-of-a-kinds yesterday at the Palms, but I was playing the penny slots with five cents in.

That's a nice win you got on a $2 bet. I hope you didn't put it all back in or spend more than that amount before you hit it. What casino was that?

I guess you've already noticed that one pair and two pair pay the same amount.
I always keep the highest pair, throw the other pair away and hope for three or four of a kind.

What casino were you in Tommy and was it crowded or not. Last midweek visit in the Tahoe area .... the casinos were just about empty ... including the Crystal Bay clubs.

We used to play Blackjack in those casinos at the age of 18 while the security guys used to stand by the front door looking for the 'sheriff' and rush us into the coffee shop at the first moment he was sighted.

And as soon as he left we were lead back to the tables.

Fun days!

BACK TO THE ROULETTE TABLE AND 'SYSTEMS'....

JOH ... Maybe this might help you out a bit before you try your system in a real live casino.

Here are the roulette numbers as they actually ‘came up’ during the 45 minutes or so while I was observing at the PALMS casino this afternoon here in Las Vegas after seeing LOCK UP ... a pretty damn good movie.

I’ll list the first 15 numbers that came up (colors included) so that maybe you can discover ‘something’ that will show you what numbers or colors, etc that you would bet on over the next ten spins of the wheel. (I have those winning numbers on paper also as they were actually ‘played’.)

8   Black
4   Black
7   Red
15    Black
24    Black
14    Red
26    Black
21    Red
23    Red
35    Black
28    Black
   1   Red
26    Black
24    Black
34    Red

Would this give you enough information to make your next few bets?

I have a list of the next ten numbers that came up over the next ten spin.

If you get five of those ten correct, your system is good enough to break even provided you bet the same amount on each spin of the roulette wheel.

        

Hmmm, I would just keep betting on red by the looks of things! Going by the law of probability, the number of reds and blacks will even out over time, though there's no guarantee this will be worked out over the next ten spins. There's a pattern of Black predominating, so it's a risk not to go with that.

[Jon Harridan]

I just want you to see that everything comes down to same old 97.3%. Lets say we put 1$ to those you mentioned so in total 3$/round.

You would win 2$ if it comes to first twelve numbers. You would win 5$ dollars if 13-18. 3$ 19-36.

So in total 2x12+5x6+3x18=108 There are 37 numbers in roulette. 3x37=111

108/111=97.3%

People are greedy by nature so you can imagine there has been a lot of people in 500 years of roulette's history who have tried to beat those odds. The numbers and colors on the board are just an illusion that people would think they have a choice.

Please explain your calculations more, assuming $1 stakes on each bet. Thanks.

[avxo]

I told you, I've found the code means I've found the code

It means jackshit, since there's no code to find.

The mathematics says that you DO have a chance in certain games, YOU JACKASS! It's simple mathematics, after all. Of course, the dealer also has a chance, but that's beside the point. What's wrong with the brains of people here, I wonder.

Of course you have a chance troll. But it's a random chance, which is why there's no code to find. If there is a code, and you found it, why are you here posting, instead of breaking the bank in Las Vegas? You can skip answering - it was a rhetorical question.

By the way, I've heard of a particular colour coming up in a row 23 times, an fact is fact. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

Fiction would be if in a spin of the roulette wheel, the result was potato. Something stranger than fiction is if the result of 23 spins in row coming up potato. A particular color coming up 23 times in a row? Nothing particularly fictional or strange about that. Unlikely? Sure. But, again, neither fictional nor strange.

Hmmm, I would just keep betting on red by the looks of things! Going by the law of probability, the number of reds and blacks will even out over time, though there's no guarantee this will be worked out over the next ten spins. There's a pattern of Black predominating, so it's a risk not to go with that.

There's no pattern - each spin is statistically independent of all previous spins. There's no correlation between what came up before and what will come up next.

[#1 Klaus fan]

Hmmm, I would just keep betting on red by the looks of things! Going by the law of probability, the number of reds and blacks will even out over time, though there's no guarantee this will be worked out over the next ten spins. There's a pattern of Black predominating, so it's a risk not to go with that.

Actually no. The ratio approaches 50%/50% but numerical difference between red and black can even grow. 10/11 is 0.476/0.524 but 1000/1005 is 0.4988/0.5012

[Jon Harridan]

It means jackshit, since there's no code to find.


Of course you have a chance troll. But it's a random chance, which is why there's no code to find. If there is a code, and you found it, why are you here posting, instead of breaking the bank in Las Vegas? You can skip answering - it was a rhetorical question.


Fiction would be if in a spin of the roulette wheel, the result was potato. Something stranger than fiction is if the result of 23 spins in row coming up potato. A particular color coming up 23 times in a row? Nothing particularly fictional or strange about that. Unlikely? Sure. But, again, neither fictional nor strange.



There's no pattern - each spin is statistically independent of all previous spins. There's no correlation between what came up before and what will come up next.

You must be one stubborn moron! If I've found the code that obviously means that there IS a code (which I'll be using soon), and you're full of hogwash. The jackshit, as you say, here is the garbage you keep spouting. I've explained my stance, and why I take it, in all my posts, so go and read them. By the way, patterns can apparently be formed from random chance events because that is precisely what has happened, you asinine troll. And the only thing coming up potato is your queer mouth shovelling out spuds of rubbish! You're lucky I'm taking the time to explain things plainly to a nonsensical fellow such as yourself.

[oldtimer1]

I haven't cracked it yet but if I beg sometimes on roulette the girl will show me her boobs.

[reppingfor20]

Jon for god sakes, you are the exact stereotypical gambling addict.  Preach about all your system's, but never report back about their results, why...because they failed and you now are working on a new system, it's a circle jerk, I feel sorry for you, study history and maybe that will help you. 

[Jon Harridan]

Jon for god sakes, you are the exact stereotypical gambling addict.  Preach about all your system's, but never report back about their results, why...because they failed and you now are working on a new system, it's a circle jerk, I feel sorry for you, study history and maybe that will help you. 

You can send me some cash for research purposes. A few grand should cover it.

[stuntmovie]

KLAUS. Your computations above appear to be based on a single '0' wheel which no longer are in play here in LV. To the best of my knowledge the last one used here in LV was at Sam's Club over ten years ago.

Your post  above reminds me of the new mechanical roulette table I watched yesterday. No live dealer is involved and it's interesting to watch how it functions.

Directly above the roulette wheel there is an electronic 'score-board' which keeps statistics in percentage format about the previous 400 winning numbers and those percentage figures do compute pretty damn close to what math experts compute them to be.

For example the even/odd stats was something like 48.8%/47.3% while the remaining 3.9% was for the '0/00' pits.

Over time these percentages will 'work out'  to the exact figures that math pre-determines them to be.

And the fact that there is roughly a 5.5% house advantage in this game ... means that the house will always win in the long run.

But this does not mean that you cannot win playing roulette.

You can win because ANYTHING can happen over the short term.

Difficult to explain or prove  without using math and boring equations but those two additional green spaces on the wheel (0 and 00) are what
make it difficult to walk out of the casino with a lot of money in your pockets.

In essence the house should pay you $37 if  your dollar is on the winning number, but they actually only pay you $35 ..... meaning that the house just made a $2 profit.

Appears strange to see it that way, but that's the way it actually works.

It works the same in the game of Craps ..... When you win, the casino pays you a bit less than what you actually deserve and the casino thereby makes a profit. It's best said  ... The casino only makes a proit whe YOU win. All the other casino winning from the losers goes into a escrow account to pay off future winners.

If you can understand that, you have a good idea how the casinos make their profit.

The only bet in the house in which here is no casino advantage is the True Odds Bet which new Craps players fail to understand.

[tommywishbone]

Single Zero Roulette casino in Vegas info:

 
Two $25-min. tables always open; up to two other tables ($100 min.) in the hi-limit area, depending on demand $25/$100 24 hrs and/or according to demand
  
Bellagio
Two in Baccarat room and one on the main casino floor Baccarat room, $100; Main casino floor, $50 24 hrs
  
Caesars Palace
High-limit area $100 24 hrs
  
Cosmopolitan, The
High-limit area $100 24 hrs
  
Encore
High-limit area $100 ($25 occasionally) 24 hrs
  
M Resort
Main casino floor Weekday, $10; Weekend $25) Swing shift and/or by request
  
Mandalay Bay
High-limit area $100 24 hrs
  
MGM Grand
High-limit area; The Mansion $25/$100 24 hrs; if demand, a second table is opened. Single-zero game in the Mansion usually has $100 min.
  
Mirage
One on the main casino floor and one in high limit area $25 24 hrs
  
Location Table Minimum Hours
Monte Carlo
High-limit area $25 By request only
  
Palazzo
Main pit and Baccarat Room $25/$100 Main casino floor, 24 hrs; Hi-Limit pit according to demand
  
Paris
High-limit area $100 By request only
  
Planet Hollywood
High-limit area $100 By request only
  
Riviera
Main pit $5 or $10 Mainly 24 hrs, unless no demand
  
Venetian
Main pit and Baccarat Room $25/$100 Main casino floor, 24 hrs; Hi-Limit pit according to demand
  
Wynn Las Vegas
High-limit area $100 ($25 occasionally) 24 hrs

[stuntmovie]

THANKS, TOMMY! I honestly thought that those tables were all long-gone.

But after noticing those table minimums, I can see why I've never noticed them.

I'm more of a cheap assed penny slot/$3 table gambler. I politely refer to myself as a Whale Turd type of casino guy.

I'm cheap but I'm constant and can be found in 3 to 4 casinos on a daily basis .... mostly to collect the free stuff they give to constant visitors,,, such as the free bottle of wine I got yesterday and some kind of pressure cooker I gotta pick up today.

And whhle visiting these casinos I do my best to discuss business with Floor Supervisors and higher ups and casino owners when possible.

The casino people who worked when the Boyz ran this place are now few and far between but when I find one or two we always take the time to talk about what a great town this usrd to be and what's wrong with it today.

No time to discuss those details now but I do have two pet peeves which I always complain about.

1. The casinos that gett away with paying even money or 6-5 for a Blackjack. (Long story here also.)

2, And one major local casino that always (cept on weekends) has vacant tables due to their $10 minimum bet policy while their competition down the road is always busy with $5 mins.  If I ran this place, someone would be looking for another job.

THANKS for the single 'O' info. Tommy. I'll check them out this week.