Author Topic: PJ BRUAN Would DIE for a pro card? (Read 28654 times)

Moen · « **Reply #75 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:49:36 PM »

Quote from: Schmoff on July 16, 2012, 07:48:48 PM

is this what you think or based on scientific research?

Yes, he's read thousands of studies done on bodybuilders

SF1900 · « **Reply #76 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:50:11 PM »

Quote from: Moen on July 16, 2012, 07:48:59 PM

He's not big enough to become a pro no matter how you cut it.

Tier 9, if become a pro will be tier 1 or 2

Moen · « **Reply #77 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:51:16 PM »

I'm not anti-steroids by the way, not at all. I just find the whole "you can do it without harm"-metality a bit laughable. Then when trouble rears its ugly head, they act all surprised as if trouble wasn't to be expected eventually. Come on guys!

Moen · « **Reply #78 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:56:47 PM »

Far from pro-caliber

ENZO · « **Reply #79 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:33:41 PM »

Realities hard to face sometimes. I wish him the best, he's just trying to live his dream but the guy simply isn't big enough. He should really take a break and play smart. Sitting this year out won't be the end of the world.

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #80 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:37:58 PM »

Quote from: Moen on July 16, 2012, 04:54:49 PM

I would say that one that uses steroids while aiming to stay healthy, is plain retarded.

You lack a basic understanding of endocrinology

Moen · « **Reply #81 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:43:02 PM »

Quote from: Chiro Flex on July 16, 2012, 09:37:58 PM

You lack a basic understanding of endocrinology

Sure bro

Please do explain why supraphysiological doses are not unhealthy

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #82 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:43:28 PM »

Quote from: deadz on July 16, 2012, 06:32:37 PM

Grams upon grams of AAS nonstop is certainly stupid. Responsible and reasonable use while getting labs done on a regular basis, every six months, is completely healthy and will likely have little to no negative health consequences.

This x100
Key word being responsible usage. This is basic stuff here for anyone who understands the science behind hormones

Reckless usage is another issue entirely.

Moen · « **Reply #83 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:43:58 PM »

"The science behind" LOL

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #84 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:46:01 PM »

Quote from: Moen on July 16, 2012, 09:43:58 PM

"The science behind" LOL

Not a believer in science? No? Fair enough

Moen · « **Reply #85 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:47:52 PM »

As if scientists would be doing studies on supraphysiological steroid doses used by bodybuilders

But since you claim to know your endocrinology, please enlighten us why steroids are NOT unhealthy?

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #86 on:** July 16, 2012, 10:00:42 PM »

Quote from: Moen on July 16, 2012, 09:47:52 PM

As if scientists would be doing studies on supraphysiological steroid doses used by bodybuilders

But since you claim to know your endocrinology, please enlighten us why steroids are NOT unhealthy?

There's lots of studies on supra physiological doses, you could spend hours reading them.

Question for you to research/ponder/explore!:
does your body produce testosterone? What happens if you introduce a synthetic form? How does it affect the negative feedback loop? What effect does this have on the HPTA? What are the effects of having infraphysiological testosterone levels in a male patient?

Introducing synthetic forms of testosterone in reasonable doses will not have devastating effects...that's just foolish thinking, and not supported by any current peer reviewed literature that I've ever come across.

Thousands of knowledgeable doctors who prescribe hormone replacement therapy would disagree with your points Champ. Steroids are safe, and fun for the whole family.

Moen · « **Reply #87 on:** July 16, 2012, 10:49:34 PM »

HRT is not supraphysiological. Of course that won't have devastating effects.

I would like to see those studies on supraphysiological doses and them being safe

usmcdevildoc · « **Reply #88 on:** July 16, 2012, 11:20:29 PM »

Quote from: jude2 on July 16, 2012, 06:18:48 PM

I hope u are sponsoring Max Charles. He will probably win the USA, although he is not American.

It that before or after his facial cosmetic surgery?? He raise any blisters on a stump yet?

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #89 on:** July 17, 2012, 07:06:43 AM »

Quote from: Chiro Flex on July 16, 2012, 10:00:42 PM

There's lots of studies on supra physiological doses, you could spend hours reading them.

Question for you to research/ponder/explore!:
does your body produce testosterone? What happens if you introduce a synthetic form? How does it affect the negative feedback loop? What effect does this have on the HPTA? What are the effects of having infraphysiological testosterone levels in a male patient?

Introducing synthetic forms of testosterone in reasonable doses will not have devastating effects...that's just foolish thinking, and not supported by any current peer reviewed literature that I've ever come across.

Thousands of knowledgeable doctors who prescribe hormone replacement therapy would disagree with your points Champ. Steroids are safe, and fun for the whole family.

You are a fucking idiot. No, there's not "a lot" of studies on supra doses. One or two 12 week studies with 600mg is not "a lot" and doesn't have much in common with bodybuilding doses and stacks anyway.

And what does "hormone replacement" have to do with bodybuilding anyway? Not a god damn thing.

njflex · « **Reply #90 on:** July 17, 2012, 07:22:28 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 17, 2012, 07:06:43 AM

You are a fucking idiot. No, there's not "a lot" of studies on supra doses. One or two 12 week studies with 600mg is not "a lot" and doesn't have much in common with bodybuilding doses and stacks anyway.

And what does "hormone replacement" have to do with bodybuilding anyway? Not a god damn thing.

your argument is with somebody who has competed natural,and has not totally come clean with his knowledge on anabolics's yet

...whole thread few pages back he was featured...

Moen · « **Reply #91 on:** July 17, 2012, 07:43:07 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 17, 2012, 07:06:43 AM

You are a fucking idiot. No, there's not "a lot" of studies on supra doses. One or two 12 week studies with 600mg is not "a lot" and doesn't have much in common with bodybuilding doses and stacks anyway.

And what does "hormone replacement" have to do with bodybuilding anyway? Not a god damn thing.

Thank you my friend

Moen · « **Reply #92 on:** July 17, 2012, 07:45:59 AM »

The Bhasin study is the only one I can remember and they only went up to 600 mg a week. There was also no information included concerning health damage and certainly no long term follow up done.

Of course higher doses over a longer period of time will do more harm, but that doesn't mean low doses over shorter periods of time are not harmful. Anything supraphysiological is not meant to be and thus is not healthy, period.

Papper · « **Reply #93 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:06:36 AM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on July 16, 2012, 03:40:35 PM

The reason why this bodybuilder morons , like PJ Brown, do not check their 3 organs affected by steroid use is the following :
THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THE DOCTOR WOULD TELL THEM TO QUIT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY SICK AND THEN THEY MIGHT HAVE TO STOP POSING IN THONGS IN FRONT OF A BUNCH OF DEPRAVED SCHMOES FOR A PLASTIC TROPHY !

"depraved schmoes" haha I'm using that one