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« Reply #75 on: August 30, 2012, 08:55:19 AM » |
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not that it was up to them but you can have all the arnold classics, runner ups or whatever but Phil has accomplished the big O!!!
Back then winning the Olympia was like winning gold at the Olympic games Nowdays winning the Olympia is like winning gold at the Paralympics |
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« Reply #76 on: August 30, 2012, 10:38:11 AM » |
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Flex=Uncrowned Mr. Olympia! Not to mention Maybe the greatest Physique ever!
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« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2012, 12:42:13 PM » |
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Always been a fan of Flex's but Dillet is dominating this pic. That's what a Mr.O should look like in a front relaxed.  |
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« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2012, 02:33:53 PM » |
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« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2012, 02:42:36 PM » |
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Always been a fan of Flex's but Dillet is dominating this pic.
That's what a Mr.O should look like in a front relaxed.
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« Reply #80 on: August 30, 2012, 02:46:25 PM » |
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But do you consider the whole package? Flex's hams and glutes are squishy as fuck where Phil is hard from top to bottom. Phil wins easy
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« Reply #81 on: August 30, 2012, 02:50:34 PM » |
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Who the fuck cares about hard glutes and hams apart from gay people?
Well, Phil is "hard from top to bottom", whereas Flex is "squishy", so what do you think? |
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« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2012, 02:55:29 PM » |
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Well, Phil is "hard from top to bottom", whereas Flex is "squishy", so what do you think?
As much as I like Flex his lower body lags behind Heaths , Heath has better hams/glutes/calves although I like the shape of Flex's quads better but breaking down parts doesn't mean much |
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« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2012, 02:59:05 PM » |
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As much as I like Flex his lower body lags behind Heaths , Heath has better hams/glutes/calves although I like the shape of Flex's quads better but breaking down parts doesn't mean much
Quite true. Flex always had problems with his lower body coming in shape---it was better at lower bodyweights. Nasser would always comment on Flex's "big butt" (Nasser looking at men's butts?) |
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« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2012, 03:18:05 PM » |
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Always been a fan of Flex's but Dillet is dominating this pic. That's what a Mr.O should look like in a front relaxed. Brutal ownage. If Dillet had used his brain and concentrated on his back, posing and came in more conditioned he would have had a few million in the bank - of course he would have spent it by now! |
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« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2012, 03:24:32 PM » |
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Brutal ownage. If Dillet had used his brain and concentrated on his back, posing and came in more conditioned he would have had a few million in the bank - of course he would have spent it by now!
His back was NEVER EVER going to improve can't fight genetics looked like a winner from the front |
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« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2012, 07:26:23 PM » |
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His back was NEVER EVER going to improve can't fight genetics
looked like a winner from the front
I think he must not have trained his back correctly. He had great genetics for overall development. Sure, maybe his back would never have been as great as Dorian or Ronnie's but it sure could have been better than what he ultimately achieved. I recall he was also prone to muscle spasms. I myself have started getting bad spasms in my hamstrings the last 2-3 years. Not sure if it is old age or my shitty diet. The past few months I started eating more bananas (potassium)and that has helped with the cramps. |
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« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2012, 07:28:44 PM » |
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Flex wins - thanks for the pics EspenG
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« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2012, 07:42:59 PM » |
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Kind of like comparing Reeves to Arnold in their primes..........2 different eras!
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« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2012, 07:50:43 PM » |
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Back then winning the Olympia was like winning gold at the Olympic games
Nowdays winning the Olympia is like winning gold at the Paralympics
Yeah but Phil will probably end up a millionaire if he hasn't yet, gets good sponserships, exposure while flex can only live in the past and hustle someone like the rhino for cash. Then we have levrone and his "levronepumpformula" and "levronereport  and finally Cormier hustling with his personal training at Venice golds. Epic truth!!! If you're a bber there is no denying you would want to be in phils shoes. |
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« Reply #90 on: August 31, 2012, 01:41:24 AM » |
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Yeah but Phil will probably end up a millionaire if he hasn't yet, gets good sponserships, exposure while flex can only live in the past and hustle someone like the rhino for cash. Then we have levrone and his "levronepumpformula" and "levronereport and finally Cormier hustling with his personal training at Venice golds. Epic truth!!! If you're a bber there is no denying you would want to be in phils shoes. Agreed And not to be funny, but I'll be anyway, Guys like levrone, flex and cormier. Dillet too. 4 of the most genetically gifted men for bbing ever. Tiny joints, great frames, structure, full muscle bellies, perfect insertions, flow, and amazing response Plus a massive fan base, they competed in the 90s mainly and it was a very strong era, yet we're all still talking about them My point is, how the fuck can they not make and keep some cash? Did they think they would look like that forever and be able to hustle indefinitely? They had lots going for them, and it was shown by guys like sarcev and mattarazzo (not good examples as role models, I know) that you don't have to win a pro show to make money, they were hugely popular and couldve worked every week for years and if saved and invested smart, couldve done well. Same for guys like de mayo and titus, whom as amateurs were doing very very well Its the typical hustler mentality, easy come, easy go. Then later you beg for donations for medical bills and cry bout a kidney, and keep hustling at another level. Winning the olympia makes it easier, but you don't have to. There was a time when platz was making more money than any other pro, same for shawn. What they did with the $, I don't know... |
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« Reply #91 on: August 31, 2012, 05:10:53 AM » |
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Kind of like comparing Reeves to Arnold in their primes..........2 different eras!
I think modern era started in 1993. All those top guys from that time would be competitive today. |
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« Reply #92 on: August 31, 2012, 06:01:27 AM » |
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Flex in his prime would have definitely win a Sandow in this current lineup of Mr O contenders......it was too bad that the Mass Monsters were awarded in favor of more beautiful and sculpted physiques that could have win Sandows......Dorian, Coleman and Cutler were the true last mass monsters....I'll be damned if a physique like Branch's is Olympia worthy
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« Reply #93 on: August 31, 2012, 08:37:43 AM » |
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Flex in his prime would have definitely win a Sandow in this current lineup of Mr O contenders......it was too bad that the Mass Monsters were awarded in favor of more beautiful and sculpted physiques that could have win Sandows......Dorian, Coleman and Cutler were the true last mass monsters....I'll be damned if a physique like Branch's is Olympia worthy
Ronnie wasn't that much bigger than Flex, when he won his first Olympia. And, Ronnie's late 90s physique had good shape and proportions, too. |
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« Reply #94 on: August 31, 2012, 08:44:57 AM » |
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Ronnie wasn't that much bigger than Flex, when he won his first Olympia. And, Ronnie's late 90s physique had good shape and proportions, too.
Flex- Low 230s Ronnie 252 Ronnie was much bigger Flex is the Wizard of illusions. Nassole out weighed him by 40lbs and didn't look 40lbs bigger than Flex. |
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« Reply #95 on: August 31, 2012, 08:48:23 AM » |
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Ronnie's lines and flow were shit compared to flex, yes he had detail but it's a separate attribute.
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« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2012, 08:53:03 AM » |
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That's what a Mr.O should look like in a front relaxed. Yes totally. Dillet was Mr Olympia from the front as far as I'm concerned. |
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« Reply #97 on: August 31, 2012, 09:15:33 AM » |
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Flex- Low 230s
Ronnie 252
Ronnie was much bigger Flex is the Wizard of illusions. Nassole out weighed him by 40lbs and didn't look 40lbs bigger than Flex.
That's my point. The scale doesn't really matter. Ronnie wasn't much bigger when he won the Olympia than he was in 1996, when he first beat Flex Wheeler and Wheeler beat him at NOC. Comparing their physique, Ronnie only look slightly larger than Flex. If you weigh 230 and look 240-245, that helps you beat the mass monsters (not that Flex is a shrimp, by any stretch). |
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« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2012, 09:18:02 AM » |
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Flex- Low 230s
Ronnie 252
Ronnie was much bigger Flex is the Wizard of illusions. Nassole out weighed him by 40lbs and didn't look 40lbs bigger than Flex.
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« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2012, 12:29:44 PM » |
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Thats a hell of a lineup!!!! All of them had crazy shape |
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