Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren

[Nomad]

he is quite strong actually....
watch his vids....
techinacALLYy in IMO stronger than branch.... simply because branch never does any lift properly

also branch tore his pecs, biceps and triceps...

[mesmorph78]

also branch tore his pecs, biceps and triceps...

And he still can't let go of the ego training

[Nails]

Branch is all momentum, 1/3 reps, bounce, and swing.

[Nomad]

And he still can't let go of the ego training

You'd think he would have learned by now. Drugs don't make you invulnerable to injuries, they just help you build more muscle/stronger tendons so you can lift heavier. Branch used to have an amazing chest but now it looks really bad in some poses, especially most muscular.

[Nomad]

Holy shit, I never noticed this before but he has partial tears in both his pecs.

[mesmorph78]

Chest used to look great  good shale

[Frank Clairmonte]

branchs face changed DRAMATICALY.

[Figo]

Branch will be vindicated soon

Then everyone will be trying to emulate his training style

[mesmorph78]

doesnt matter if hes leaning back a bit, its still all the load on the shoulders, try it yourself.

on the lower part, chest will be involved,yeah, but mid and top range its all shoulders.

as for momentum, well, the momentum didnt fall out of the clear blue sky into the movement, its muscle power behind that.

he dont use proper form, agreed, but so what, it kinda works for him.

just bc when a bench is flat doesnt make it the best natural chest movement for everyone.

same goes for shoulder press, theres no rule for everyone at what angle the lift must happen.

Don't agree....
He isn't standing up fully that would make the move harder
He is have standing half sitting back braced using his lower body to help to jerk the weight up half incline but standing that is bollox
If I used that technique even I could throw 315 up for a rep or 2 and I'm weak on shoulders if I tried to sit properly and do that ... Not gonna happen
Lets see branch sit and actually press the weight properly or stand and do it properly

[mesmorph78]

Phil is 100% right
i like to move heavy weight but not if im doing the movement 80% wrong
how can you do a seated military press and your half standing....

or a cable curl and you are literally jumping off the floor....

I see phil stringing sandows togetehr because he is smrt
also i think he is a lot stronger than people think.

[Jaime]

wow you have the IQ of a peanut, always manage to incorporate a lie in your thread title and now you have proven your lack of knowledge as what number are used among bodybuilders. Take a 100 people Phil's size and only a few will pull an 800 and squat 800, those are fucken insane numbers and are world class figures. The bench, well that one you may have gotten right.

QFT. That little confused homo is without a doubt the worst poster on this site.

[d0nny2600]

Phil is 100% right
i like to move heavy weight but not if im doing the movement 80% wrong
how can you do a seated military press and your half standing....

or a cable curl and you are literally jumping off the floor....

I see phil stringing sandows togetehr because he is smrt
also i think he is a lot stronger than people think.

I wish you could string sentences together

[mesmorph78]

I wish you could string sentences together

On the iPhone brother
When I need to I can 

[d0nny2600]

On the iPhone brother
When I need to I can 

All in good fun buddy

[bigmikecox]

He has a tiny frame. No way he is super strong.

He has a Sandow and will likely get another one Saturday. Who cares how strong he is

[Ronnie Rep]

I wonder what his max lifts are.  Someone as big as him should at least be able to bench 500+, Deadlift 800, and squat 700-800.

He is a bodybuilder not a powerlifter!

[hardgainerj]

whats your point

[The_Hammer]

whats your point

Dorian didn't squat.

[50_REPS]

Dorian didn't squat.

Squating is by far the best exercise you can do.....period, although with the right routine leg press can be very nasty as well.

Try leg pressing a weight you can do 20 reps with some difficulty and do it for 50 reps.

Pound out 20 reps with no rest, then lock out and take 3 deep breaths, then 5 more, then lock out 3 deep breaths and 5 more, continue until you get through to 50 reps.

Two sets is all you'll need and walk out of the gym you're done.

I'm all about form, so knees in armpits throughout the set.

my 2 cents

[Fortress]

I wonder what his max lifts are.  Someone as big as him should at least be able to bench 500+, Deadlift 800, and squat 700-800.

You're a fuckturd.

Those numbers are gigantic. Especially the deadlift and squat. Even for a high-level strength athlete. I mean, as is, VERY few powerlifters at the very top can achieve those numbers without lifting/support gear.

Unbelievable ignorance all over this board.

[Fortress]

Ronnie was 270 in The Unbelievable when he pulled 800.  Honestly I'm surprised Ron didn't pull more considering how much muscle mass he had.

You do realize muscle mass is the lesser of the absolute strength equation, right?

[Fortress]

You'd think he would have learned by now. Drugs don't make you invulnerable to injuries, they just help you build more muscle/stronger tendons so you can lift heavier. Branch used to have an amazing chest but now it looks really bad in some poses, especially most muscular.

Wrong

It's why so many injure themselves when they use anabolic steroids. The muscles become stronger than the connective tissues can handle.

Some of you should start paying those of us with some knowledge, seriously.

[50_REPS]

how is that good form?

that would cause your spine to flex

True that, your spine would certainly flex, but  nothing wrong with that, it's made to do so......

[Fortress]

Ronnie was 270 in The Unbelievable when he pulled 800.  Honestly I'm surprised Ron didn't pull more considering how much muscle mass he had.

Yeah, because that only several elite powerlifters can pull in the mid-to-late eights doesn't say anything.

You're plain out to lunch.

[The_Hammer]

Squating is by far the best exercise you can do.....period, although with the right routine leg press can be very nasty as well.

Try leg pressing a weight you can do 20 reps with some difficulty and do it for 50 reps.

Pound out 20 reps with no rest, then lock out and take 3 deep breaths, then 5 more, then lock out 3 deep breaths and 5 more, continue until you get through to 50 reps.

Two sets is all you'll need and walk out of the gym you're done.

I'm all about form, so knees in armpits throughout the set.

my 2 cents

Yes high reps for legs is beneficial.  However I feel like a pussy if I don't lift heavy.