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Author Topic: Heath and Kai have surpassed everyone in the 90s except Dorian and Ronnie.  (Read 9641 times)
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« on: September 30, 2012, 04:15:58 PM »

Prove me wrong

1. Ronnie, 98 Mr. O. or the Grand Prix show.
2. Dorian 96 Grand Prix
3. Heath 12 Mr. O(Night show)
4. Kai 12 Mr. O Night show.
5  Mr. O. Wheeler 93 Arnold Classic
6. Levrone 97 Grand Prix

Watch the video of the night show. Kai and Heath have taken shit to new levels. The conditioning is insane. This is special.

http://streaming.bodybuilding.com/2012-olympia-webcast/?q=mr-olympia-finals-routines-replay-2
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 04:19:09 PM »

Conditioning was not even close to ground breaking....neither was size.  I dont see what you are talking about.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 04:19:18 PM »

  It is getting crazy
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 04:21:33 PM »

1. Ronnie, 98 Mr. O. or the Grand Prix show.
2. Dorian 96 Grand Prix
3. Heath 12 Mr. O(Night show)
4. Kai 12 Mr. O Night show.
5  Mr. O. Wheeler 93 Arnold Classic
6. Levrone 97 Grand Prix

Watch the video of the night show. Kai and Heath have taken shit to new levels. The conditioning is insane. This is special.

http://streaming.bodybuilding.com/2012-olympia-webcast/?q=mr-olympia-finals-routines-replay-2
true,,,wheeler and kev started smaller if thats possible and shredded for there 1st mro's and yeah 97 kev and 96 he was at his biggest 'shaved 'head yrs and wheeler got bigger 96-99 with his look ,,,that would have been interesting top 4,,kev had legs too in his early yrs like kai and heath maybe not crazy like kai's but he good wheels,,,
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 04:22:33 PM »

Watch the video. then post a video of showing other than what I said a better bodybuilder on stage.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 04:24:09 PM »

Watch the video. then post a video of showing other than what I said a better bodybuilder on stage.

We have threads about the 90īs every day...just skim through them.  93, 94, 98, 99...
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 04:25:35 PM »

1. Ronnie 99
2. Ronnie 98
3. Ronnie 2000
4. Ronnie 03
5. Ronnie 05.

in fact 2000 Coleman is my favourite
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 04:27:17 PM »

  I still think Shawn and Flex should have an O.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 04:28:50 PM »

1. Ronnie 99
2. Ronnie 98
3. Ronnie 2000
4. Ronnie 03
5. Ronnie 05.

in fact 2000 Coleman is my favourite

Reminds me of the Chappelle Show skit. "Who are the five best rappers of all time? Dylan, Dylan, Dylan , Dylan and Dylan. "
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 04:31:57 PM »

The only people that could up to this point ever beat or match this shot from head to toe is Coleman, and Yates. That's it. Flex would get destroyed, Shawn Ray?  lol... Heath and Kai are on a new level


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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 04:34:47 PM »

 So: Ronnie, Dorian, Phil, and Kai?
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 04:35:55 PM »

So: Ronnie, Dorian, Phil, and Kai?

As of right now Phil, Kai yes....
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 04:40:13 PM »

  That BDB does have those four being the top
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 04:48:34 PM »

kevin and flex could still be competitive

early kevin when he had legs and early flex before the oil could give both phil and kai trouble.

kai has a wierd build

shit, I'll take a 95 francois from the arnold and nasser from 95 noc.

the olympia has always been about size, and the guys from the 90's had it AND the density

u can only slin load so much....
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 04:48:58 PM »

Yep!  This rivalry they have is making them both better (not bigger, but better), and is possibly the best thing that could have happened to bodybuilding.  Throw in the emergent and aesthetic Shawn Rhoden, and you've got to be big, shredded and well shaped or forget top 3, or with Dexter resurgent for now, top 4.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 04:49:13 PM »

Damn, I'd thought I'd get more arguements...Cause you really can't argue against it. To me, this is the best top two I've ever seen.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2012, 04:53:03 PM »

kevin and flex could still be competitive

early kevin when he had legs and early flex before the oil could give both phil and kai trouble.

kai has a wierd build

shit, I'll take a 95 francois from the arnold and nasser from 95 noc.

the olympia has always been about size, and the guys from the 90's had it AND the density

u can only slin load so much....

the problem is the guys from the 90s had the conditioning...then they lost the conditioning for size as the 90s went on.  Now we have athletes with extreme size and extreme conditioning something only perfected by Ronnie and Dorian.  Add two the the list cause 5'9 Heath at 246 lbs looks insane. Like stone. And Kai at 5'8 256lbs  is fucking sick.  This is what Flex, Levrone, Ray and Cormier was supposed to be.  Heath and Kai are that.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2012, 05:07:39 PM »

Wiggs,

I agree completely. However, I feel that Dorian 1993 Mr. Olympia should be behind RC...pick a year  Grin. Barring that, Kai and Phil shit over all other bodybuilders ever including Dorian 1992/1994/1997 and Ronnie 2004. Phil has the best muscle belly tie ins ever. If he were as wide as Ronnie, there wouldn't even be a question of who is the best of all time.
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2012, 05:08:41 PM »

The '90s was the greatest era of bodybuilding- Ronnie, Yates, Flex, Levrone, Ray, Dillet were all better than Kai or Phil.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2012, 05:12:34 PM »

The '90s was the greatest era of bodybuilding- Ronnie, Yates, Flex, Levrone, Ray, Dillet were all better than Kai or Phil.

Care post some video or pics to prove your point? I already stated Ronnie and Dorian were outside of them, your nuts. 220 lb wheeler would get raped by Phil or Kai last night.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 05:17:45 PM »

Care post some video or pics to prove your point? I already stated Ronnie and Dorian were outside of them, your nuts. 220 lb wheeler would get raped by Phil or Kai last night.
how about 96-98 wheeler he was till getting good condition plus the cartoon bi's/delts he was shooting up,,,he was over 240 then,...
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 05:18:52 PM »

Damn, I'd thought I'd get more arguements...Cause you really can't argue against it. To me, this is the best top two I've ever seen.

no way...

below-   would all beat kai and phil

93...yates and flex ol

97...yates and nasser...too much mass

01...jay and ronnie

06...jay and ronnie

watching the night show, kai was smooth and flat..he looked better when he won the ny show last year...triceps and quads were more striated, bigger, harder and even the color was better

kai never even came close to beating jay, let alone the guys from the 90's who would have beaten jay
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2012, 05:19:18 PM »

David Henry has a better BDB than Phil.
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2012, 05:22:03 PM »

how about 96-98 wheeler he was till getting good condition plus the cartoon bi's/delts he was shooting up,,,he was over 240 then,...

The only time wheeler showed up to anything close to the condition of Ronnie, Dorian, Phik or Kai was in 93 at 216 lbs at 5 10 and 98 arnold classic at 232. Even then, Phil and Kai have advanced it to a new level.
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