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« on: November 14, 2012, 07:59:10 AM »

im doing a squat workout with 135 im getting good depth but i find a hole lot less friction on knees if i dont do all the way up.. this tennds to get a good pump along the back glutes and legs. ive always had great quads but nothing showing on hams, im also a shitty jumper aswell

I got 29 reps rest paused, probably coulda done more but im trying out another poundcake recipe i have in the oven (eggless)
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 08:02:14 AM »

squats=stauqs

stalks=legs

stalks are also good for stalking fine assed hoes
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 08:33:04 AM »

I read that you take the stress off of the muscles and put it onto the joints when you straighten your legs/arms during he rep. Stands to reason.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 08:34:30 AM »

im doing a squat workout with 135 im getting good depth but i find a hole lot less friction on knees if i dont do all the way up.. this tennds to get a good pump along the back glutes and legs. ive always had great quads but nothing showing on hams, im also a shitty jumper aswell

I got 29 reps rest paused, probably coulda done more but im trying out another poundcake recipe i have in the oven (eggless)


why are you not working?
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 08:35:42 AM »

all the way on her knees

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 08:40:45 AM »

baking and squatting = nwt orking

nwt orking = not working!
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 09:24:57 AM »

all the way on her knees



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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 09:29:01 AM »

I've always felt the last 1/8th of the movement is not really necessary for squats. Its all hip flexors at that point. The negative portion where your ass is in the hole is the sweet spot. Same goes for DB flyes, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 09:32:57 AM »

if you care about your back, do squats properly.
Fixed to correct retarded bro-logic.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 09:34:38 AM »

I've always felt the last 1/8th of the movement is not really necessary for squats. Its all hip flexors at that point. The negative portion where your ass is in the hole is the sweet spot. Same goes for DB flyes, etc.
I find parallel is best with squats but i have also got good results from partial squats. Db flyes....i agree but i like to bring the Bells together and squeeze and i am sure it helps. Coming up and stopping just before lockout is brutal(squats).
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 09:36:55 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2012, 09:38:05 AM »

im doing a squat workout with 135 im getting good depth but i find a hole lot less friction on knees if i dont do all the way up.. this tennds to get a good pump along the back glutes and legs. ive always had great quads but nothing showing on hams, im also a shitty jumper aswell

I got 29 reps rest paused, probably coulda done more but im trying out another poundcake recipe i have in the oven (eggless)


do bodyweight squats but try touching knuckles behind or at heels at bottom

part of combat conditioning course by soem bald guy

my legs didnt let me walk for 4 days after 100
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2012, 09:38:15 AM »

ok  Roll Eyes
Prove me wrong with some scientific literature if you feel strongly enough, I'd love to hear another view than what they teach us in grad school in the USA.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2012, 11:01:04 AM »

plenty of people who squat with PERFECT form manage to one day get major back injury with even a light weight using perfect form
"Plenty of people" who have never touched a weight in their life manage to develop chronic low back pain and associated pathologies as well.

Everyone who drinks water, also eventually dies.

There is nothing biomechanically compromising to your spinal erectors by going through flexion/extension under an appropriate load. Your body was designed for it. In fact, as an almost graduate with a doctorate in my field, I'm entirely convinced that squatting and dead lifting with proper form would alleviate many, many symptoms of chronic lower back pain and would help to further stabilize the spinal column. Like I said, please correct me if you have literature suggesting otherwise. This "squats are dangerous" nonsense is crazy talk.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2012, 11:16:24 AM »

believe what you want


i dont give 2 shits
Last point brother...

So many of the spinal dysfunction issues we see can be correlated directly to improper muscular balance (weak glutes, hams, erectors, abdominal muscles). It makes sense that strengthening these through the proper movements would eliminate many of the issues we see and restore proper function to these joints.

Also, you need to cut out heme-iron from your diet.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2012, 11:34:37 AM »

"Plenty of people" who have never touched a weight in their life manage to develop chronic low back pain and associated pathologies as well.

Everyone who drinks water, also eventually dies.

There is nothing biomechanically compromising to your spinal erectors by going through flexion/extension under an appropriate load. Your body was designed for it. In fact, as an almost graduate with a doctorate in my field, I'm entirely convinced that squatting and dead lifting with proper form would alleviate many, many symptoms of chronic lower back pain and would help to further stabilize the spinal column. Like I said, please correct me if you have literature suggesting otherwise. This "squats are dangerous" nonsense is crazy talk.

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2012, 11:36:19 AM »

ATG squats = full movement = winning
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2012, 12:03:28 PM »

squats and deadlifts actually cause this imbalance so that makes sense

no amount of crunches is going to make up for the massive imbalance in force couples these moves generate


anyway to win olympia you only need big arms
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2012, 12:05:50 PM »

ATG squats = full movement = winning
Yes, this.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2012, 12:06:35 PM »

most people over 5'8" or so are not built for it
More brutal bro-science...oh brother
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2012, 12:17:07 PM »

I tell you, honestly, the only time I get lower back pains is when I stop deadlifting, a month without deadlifting and my lower back
is at me.

Squatting is bad for your knees if you dont go at least parallel, I think if you do quarter reps the knees will take the brunt of it, below parallel
its the glutes and hams, could be wrong though but I ve never had knee issues.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2012, 12:25:17 PM »

I tell you, honestly, the only time I get lower back pains is when I stop deadlifting, a month without deadlifting and my lower back
is at me.

Squatting is bad for your knees if you dont go at least parallel, I think if you do quarter reps the knees will take the brunt of it, below parallel
its the glutes and hams, could be wrong though but I ve never had knee issues.
I agree with this post, I'm the same way.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2012, 12:44:41 PM »

Agree guys but has anyone ever done 21īs on squats like say Bicep curls? would be intensity 100% Grin you would have to modify it but would it work?
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2012, 12:50:31 PM »

training maybe the lower and upper ranges of a squat... hit all stages ...lower ,middle, and just before lock out with strong emphasis on each position and not just one movement.
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2012, 12:58:51 PM »

Agree guys but has anyone ever done 21īs on squats like say Bicep curls? would be intensity 100% Grin you would have to modify it but would it work?

Sure, why not, I guess you could do 21s on any exercise, well maybe not deads, I imagine doing 21s on squats would be pretty brutal, try this..

10sets of 10reps with 60sec rest between sets and increasing the weight in every set, you ll have to do it a few times to know where your at weight wise but its a killer.
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