Lots of gullible dreamers in this thread! This is what's wrong with the Industry, the PROS lie, the media encourages it, Billions of dollars of useless supplements get sold, and the average Punter is too obsessed with Muscles to see through it. Only a young, inexperienced male would honestly believe the word of a PRO bodybuilder. It used to be that if questioned, DENY using at all, now the PROS realise the public are slowly catching up and KNOW they are using drugs, now when PROS are questioned, they minimise their use. It's all part of the conflict they suffer from, they know their lifestyle is terrible drug addicted affair, and they are conflicted about encouraging others to become bloated drug addicted muscle pigs. I hate to say it, but if you think these guys are taking a handful of stanozolol to look the way they do, you are a gullible and naive dreamer.