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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2012, 08:40:57 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GwIbyp4xBU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GwIbyp4xBU</a>
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2012, 08:42:08 AM »

cheesburgers dont produce bullets
Shove enough down someones throat to cover their airways and you have a deadly weapon.  Best to ban them or at least make 0.5 ounce patty mandatory and only one bun, no sesame seeds.
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2012, 08:42:15 AM »

cheesburgers dont produce bullets

Isn't heart disease still te number one killer in America Tito?
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2012, 08:46:02 AM »

Isn't heart disease still te number one killer in America Tito?
That would be obesity I believe. So you need to ban sugar, fatty foods, any size over small, and you would need to criminalize eating more calories then they need too.   
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2012, 08:46:52 AM »

Isn't heart disease still te number one killer in America Tito?
Actually medical errors/misdiagnosis and doctors are the leading cause of death in America.  Better ban doctors.
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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2012, 08:49:17 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis
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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2012, 08:49:22 AM »

So you ban them now.  What about the 50 million or so already in the hands of gangbangers and "hunters"?
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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2012, 09:01:12 AM »

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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2012, 09:01:38 AM »

Actually medical errors/misdiagnosis and doctors are the leading cause of death in America.  Better ban doctors.
For someone who claims to be intelligent, your logic is quite flawed.
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2012, 09:03:50 AM »


How many mass murders have been carried out using something other than firearms as of late?
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2012, 09:04:55 AM »

For someone who claims to be intelligent, your logic is quite flawed.
Roll Eyes

Iatrogenesis is a major phenomenon, and a severe risk to patients. A study carried out in 1981 more than one-third of illnesses of patients in a university hospital were iatrogenic, nearly one in ten was considered major, and, in 2% of the patients, the iatrogenic disorder ended in death. Complications were most strongly associated with exposure to drugs and medications.[16] In another study, the main factors leading to problems were inadequate patient evaluation, lack of monitoring and follow-up, and failure to perform necessary tests.[citation needed]
In the United States, figures suggest estimated deaths per year of: [17][18] [19][20]
12,000 due to unnecessary surgery
7,000 due to medication errors in hospitals
20,000 due to other errors in hospitals
80,000 due to nosocomial infections in hospitals
106,000 due to non-error, negative effects of drugs
Based on these figures, iatrogenesis may cause 225,000 deaths per year in the United States (excluding recognizable error).[17]
These estimates are lower than those in an earlier IOM report, which would suggest from 230,000 to 284,000 iatrogenic deaths.[17]
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2012, 09:06:21 AM »

How many mass murders have been carried out using something other than firearms as of late?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932011%29

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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2012, 09:06:54 AM »

Anders Behring Breivik knows a thing or two on the efficiency of gun control.
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2012, 09:08:09 AM »

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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2012, 09:09:36 AM »



Who cares.  You can't vailidate it because of other issues.  But you can try knocking down this tree one branch at a time.
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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2012, 09:10:03 AM »

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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2012, 09:11:28 AM »

Who cares.  You can't vailidate it because of other issues.  But you can try knocking down this tree one branch at a time.

If cocaine is banned in the U.S....why is it that Mexian drug cartels have so much money and power?
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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2012, 09:23:19 AM »

If cocaine is banned in the U.S....why is it that Mexian drug cartels have so much money and power?

Yes because I see 6 and 7 year olds snorting lines of coke daily  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2012, 09:24:26 AM »

Yes because I see 6 and 7 year olds snorting lines of coke daily  Roll Eyes

More 6 and 7 year olds do drugs than shoot up their school, no question.
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« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2012, 09:32:57 AM »

could be that this little dipshit wouldn't have done with a revolver.  But with a fucking AK-47 (or like model), he's suddenly superman.....

get rid of semi's.
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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2012, 09:35:37 AM »

could be that this little dipshit wouldn't have done with a revolver.  But with a fucking AK-47 (or like model), he's suddenly superman.....

get rid of semi's.

Huh

Most Pistols are all Semi-Autos.
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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2012, 09:44:21 AM »

Huh

Most Pistols are all Semi-Autos.

So what do you suggest....cheaper funerals and coffins? 

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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2012, 09:44:49 AM »

I am not sure we know exactly what the founders had in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment.  They MAY WELL well have had hunting and defense against common criminals in mind.  This seems quite likely given the patterns of life of those times.  They certainly had the common man's defense against tyranny in mind.  I grant that we need some legislation to control assault type weapons, which would not appear to be necessary for any of these purposes.  But to think that we will solve the violence problem in our culture with gun legislation is kind of ridiculous.  In the twenties we had legislation on the books to solve our "alchohol problem".  That didn't do much good.  Now we have legislation to solve the problem of excessive drug use.  Would anybody argue that we have curbed drug use to our satisfaction through this legislation?  Unfortunately the same would go for gun legislation.  The worst gun violence is in places where a bias toward "gun control" is strongest (e.g., Chicago). Don't get me wrong - there is gun legislation I support (as long as Second Amendment is kept in mind) but this certainly will not be a cure-all.  The issues run much deeper.
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2012, 09:48:48 AM »

Clearly, technology on guns have exceeded the ability of the sickest in our society to deal with them.

Semi's need to be banned.

If you got another solution, fine.  I'll listen.  

But either lead, follow or get out of the fucking way.
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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2012, 09:57:23 AM »

for the sake of argument lets look at few of the last mass homicides,

 columbine, committed by kids

 virginia tech, committed by older kid

 aurora, committed by older kid

 newtown, committed by older kid

 you will never be able to defend against the lone nut out there but something has broken down in modern society that pertains directly to the raising of children.
 firearms are only the end result of something failing at much deeper level.
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