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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #150 on: October 20, 2013, 12:10:57 PM »
The above hardly helps you prove Jesus as 'god', in fact quite the opposite.

Jesus is three in one,He is a god, a son and a spirit all in one.

Just like humans, there are males,females and animals all in one.

Just like cars, there are cars, trucks and planes all in one.


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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #151 on: October 20, 2013, 01:28:59 PM »
The above hardly helps you prove Jesus as 'god', in fact quite the opposite.

You're absolutely correct that in and of itself the chapter isn't conclusive proof, but it does show he is far more than a prophet...the focus of your post.  

I post only for others that might read so that they can understand and not be misguided.

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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #152 on: October 20, 2013, 01:38:09 PM »
Jesus is three in one,He is a god, a son and a spirit all in one.

Just like humans, there are males,females and animals all in one.

Just like cars, there are cars, trucks and planes all in one.



Hey stingray,

Hope you are well.

What you posted above is unfortunately not correct in regards to the trinity of God.  Jesus is not the Holy Spirit, but he is one of three persons of a single God.  The trinity of God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.   Jesus is the Son of God, but he possesses a dual nature in that he is divine and human a concept termed as the hypostatic union.  Each person of the trinity is coequal and coeternal and all one God.

We exist in a creation of trinities so it's not all that surprising that the creator is also trinity in nature.  We have past, present and future states of time.  All differently purposed, but all one time.  We have three states of matter in solid, gas and liquid....all matter, but all differently purposed.   Space is also composed of height, depth and width....all different, but all distinct natures of space.

Have a good one!!

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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #153 on: October 21, 2013, 07:13:02 AM »




Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Exodus 20:4

Too bad the bible is ultimately against the trinity and it all comes down to Paul's writings and the church (man made conjectures).

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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #154 on: October 21, 2013, 02:30:12 PM »
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Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Exodus 20:4

Too bad the bible is ultimately against the trinity and it all comes down to Paul's writings and the church (man made conjectures).

1st image is an incorrect representation of the trinity.  I get what they're going for, but it ultimately fails to convey an accurate representation as Father and Spirit are both spirit.

2nd image is a now classic diagram of the trinity...it's actually quite good!!   Dr. White refers to it within his book on the trinity.

These are not graven images or idols that are worshipped....the first one is just a bad picture LOL.  This verse and others tied to it in Leviticus and Deuteronomy speak out against the creation of false idols and worshipping them. The ark of covenant was built with very specific instructions from God and contained on top of it were golden images of angels.   The ark itself wasn't worshipped, but God was.

Last sentence is just fallacious, good ole fashion "trinity trollin" and already been repeatedly addressed and corrected by myself and others...dead horse beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten.......

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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #155 on: October 21, 2013, 02:32:14 PM »
Hey stingray,

Hope you are well.

What you posted above is unfortunately not correct in regards to the trinity of God.  Jesus is not the Holy Spirit, but he is one of three persons of a single God.  The trinity of God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.   Jesus is the Son of God, but he possesses a dual nature in that he is divine and human a concept termed as the hypostatic union.  Each person of the trinity is coequal and coeternal and all one God.

We exist in a creation of trinities so it's not all that surprising that the creator is also trinity in nature.  We have past, present and future states of time.  All differently purposed, but all one time.  We have three states of matter in solid, gas and liquid....all matter, but all differently purposed.   Space is also composed of height, depth and width....all different, but all distinct natures of space.

Have a good one!!
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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #156 on: October 21, 2013, 02:35:07 PM »
I really liked your post M.O.S... in case the above wasn't clear.

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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #157 on: October 23, 2013, 01:22:34 AM »
Jesus is three in one,He is a god, a son and a spirit all in one.

Just like humans, there are males,females and animals all in one.

Just like cars, there are cars, trucks and planes all in one.



Christ, what a shitty analogy.

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Re: Jesus Christ came to die for, and thus save us from, our sins
« Reply #158 on: October 23, 2013, 08:38:14 AM »
I really liked your post M.O.S... in case the above wasn't clear.

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