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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2013, 03:23:12 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2013, 03:34:22 PM »

I do agree that it's now gone to the pack and is just silly, but the 90's to was not completely free of this - it is sad, but I think BB ended in the early 90s - since then it's all about size at all costs, it's progression from each era - with all this extra size the things you must do to achieve it  will have these unsightly side effects unless of course your structure can carry it - most of these guys do not have the structure to carry this extra size and what comes with that huge size is the guts and total unbalance,.

I do agree with you but this did all start in the 90s era and has got progressively worse... PIP BB  Cry
I agree the gut started in the late 90's but the gut you would rarely see only whe a bber was standing relaxed not posing...
no we see guys with it while doing the ab and thigh..... sad...

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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2013, 04:55:43 PM »

Yep but "mcway" will argue dex, cutler and even Branch are all better bc they beat all of them and have more titles  Roll Eyes

He even thinks dex has bigger and better legs than Shawn and is superior to Shawn cause of his titles  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2013, 05:00:47 PM »







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tone looks shrivelled..... .... paluski is pregnant so is dex, johhnies leg looks shrivelled

this is bodybuilding   Undecided

No, this is selecetive editing, choosing the best shots from the 90s with the worst shots from today's competitors, as if the 90s guys were completely belly-free. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2013, 05:46:17 PM »

not really i posted as i found in the google search. 
coompare the ab and thigh shots
... are even trying to suggest ... the guy level was the same ... come on bro
.... i dont care if dex has bigger legs.... he doesnt flow like shawn
shawn is vastly better...
shawn is symmetrical.. dexter has those over sized arms to a lesser degree than phil
shewns are were in perfect unison with his ....torso... perfect abs
dexters abs look upside down...nroow at the top nd broder at the bottom
he is a short poor mans flex.....
not as good as shawn flex cormier
i dont care how shredded his glutes are....


as for branch he should never even be on  pro bodybuilding stage IMO
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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2013, 06:36:13 PM »

not really i posted as i found in the google search. 
coompare the ab and thigh shots
... are even trying to suggest ... the guy level was the same ... come on bro
.... i dont care if dex has bigger legs.... he doesnt flow like shawn
shawn is vastly better...
shawn is symmetrical.. dexter has those over sized arms to a lesser degree than phil
shewns are were in perfect unison with his ....torso... perfect abs
dexters abs look upside down...nroow at the top nd broder at the bottom
he is a short poor mans flex.....
not as good as shawn flex cormier
i dont care how shredded his glutes are....


as for branch he should never even be on  pro bodybuilding stage IMO

U can't argue w/mcway he judges everything on titles cause his brain can't see further then that. His argument will be "he beat this person or this person , deal with it 90's wasn't the greatest"

Yes he is right 90's wasn't the greatest ALL of the past 60's, 70's, 80's, were all leap years better than what we have now.
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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2013, 06:54:10 PM »

U can't argue w/mcway he judges everything on titles cause his brain can't see further then that. His argument will be "he beat this person or this person , deal with it 90's wasn't the greatest"

Yes he is right 90's wasn't the greatest ALL of the past 60's, 70's, 80's, were all leap years better than what we have now.
so i guess if shawn roden even wins a sandow
hes better tha flex shawn kevin cormier

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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2013, 08:02:47 PM »

What does someone like Ronnie or Jay say when they see that comparison?

I mean, Ronnie is supposedly the greatest bodybuilder in history. Does he look at that picture and say to himself, "Yeah, but bodybuilding has progress since then. We're bigger and more muscular now."

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One problem is how they stand in that pose. That is not a relaxed pose the way Ronnie and Jay are doing it. They would look better posing like the older guys.
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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2013, 08:04:04 PM »

Long time ago





Ronnie and Jay would look ten times better if they had just posed like Rory and Paris - more relaxed. Instead of trying ot flare their lats to TREX proportions.
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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2013, 08:07:44 PM »

Ronnie Coleman with a strong V taper, and what appears to be a vacuum?


Funny how Ron looks better there than he ever did winning an Olympia yet he probably placed 8th or so.
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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2013, 08:09:41 PM »




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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2013, 08:13:07 PM »

U can't argue w/mcway he judges everything on titles cause his brain can't see further then that. His argument will be "he beat this person or this person , deal with it 90's wasn't the greatest"

Once again, your brain is way off the mark.

My argument is "he beat this person or that person", in part, because the "this person" happens to be those beloved 90s bodybuilders such as Levrone, Cormier, El Sonbaty, Ray, just to name a few.

That's the case with one Jay Cutler, who supplanted Kevin Levrone as the #2 bodybuilder in the world and stayed there, until he finally got Ronnie Coleman and became Mr. Olympia (something Levrone, Ray, Wheeler, Cormier, Schlierkamp, and El Sonbaty never did).

Therefore, based on titles won, competitors defeated to win those titles, AND their actual physiques, I can confidently claim that Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson are among the greatest bodybuilders of all time.
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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2013, 08:13:47 PM »

Long time ago





and can not see that again Undecided
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« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2013, 08:19:27 PM »

What does someone like Ronnie or Jay say when they see that comparison?

I mean, Ronnie is supposedly the greatest bodybuilder in history. Does he look at that picture and say to himself, "Yeah, but bodybuilding has progress since then. We're bigger and more muscular now."

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true but thats ronnie 2005.

look how Ronnie looked when HE won the Arnold Classic: Shocked


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« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2013, 08:19:53 PM »

not really i posted as i found in the google search. 
coompare the ab and thigh shots
... are even trying to suggest ... the guy level was the same ... come on bro
.... i dont care if dex has bigger legs.... he doesnt flow like shawn
shawn is vastly better...
shawn is symmetrical.. dexter has those over sized arms to a lesser degree than phil
shewns are were in perfect unison with his ....torso... perfect abs
dexters abs look upside down...nroow at the top nd broder at the bottom
he is a short poor mans flex.....
not as good as shawn flex cormier
i dont care how shredded his glutes are....


as for branch he should never even be on  pro bodybuilding stage IMO

Not on their level? Dex's titles and placings say otherwise, especially when some are at their expense.

Who did Dex defeat for his 3rd ASC title (and his GNC Show of Strength win)? That would be Cormier.

He's either placed near or surpassed them. No, he didn't beat Ray, head to head. However, considering that he amasss four times as many ASCs and obtained the one title Ray did not, I think that makes up the ground on that end.

If Shawn Ray had Dex's mass, to go with his proportions, maybe he'd have a Sandow on his mantle.

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« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2013, 08:23:46 PM »

  that dex should win and not shawn is a travesty
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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2013, 08:27:46 PM »

 that dex should win and not shawn is a travesty

Hey, the judges decided to let a bloated, one-armed, blocky Dorian Yates win it in 1994.

I'll say this: After Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in 2006, that whole "knock-the-champion-out" incumbency stuff with the defending Mr. Olympia went out the door.

That, I believe, is why Jackson won in 2008 when Cutler showed up waterlogged.
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2013, 08:41:13 PM »

Not on their level? Dex's titles and placings say otherwise, especially when some are at their expense.

Who did Dex defeat for his 3rd ASC title (and his GNC Show of Strength win)? That would be Cormier.

He's either placed near or surpassed them. No, he didn't beat Ray, head to head. However, considering that he amasss four times as many ASCs and obtained the one title Ray did not, I think that makes up the ground on that end.

If Shawn Ray had Dex's mass, to go with his proportions, maybe he'd have a Sandow on his mantle.



He beat a Cormier in decline when those guys were on peak
Dexter was an able buyer and would finish behind them all peak vs peak he is not on their level I don't care if he wins 10 sandows


If shawn Rhoden winds a sandow is he better than flex Cormier and Levrone?Huh
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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2013, 08:56:02 PM »

Must be Awkward for a man known for a legendary physique like Arnold  having to give Trophies with his name on it to the curernt mutan gut competetors on his very own  contest.




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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2013, 08:58:40 PM »





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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2013, 09:30:53 PM »

He beat a Cormier in decline when those guys were on peak
Dexter was an able buyer and would finish behind them all peak vs peak he is not on their level I don't care if he wins 10 sandows

Cormier beat Jackson the week after the ASC at the San Francisco Pro...not that much of a decline.

And Cormier wasn't on the decline, when Dex beat him at the Show of Strength.

Furthermore, I'd hardly consider Jackson beating at his peak. That would have occured at either the 2008 Mr. Olympia or the 2012 Masters Olympia. Some have argued that, even in defeat, Jackson looked better at the 2009 Olympia than he did winning the previous year.

Those versions of Jackson are quite better than the ones that beat Cormier.
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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2013, 09:32:27 PM »

dex looked better ten years ago than now, and he was placing ninth or tenth in the olympia
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2013, 09:48:19 PM »

dex looked better ten years ago than now, and he was placing ninth or tenth in the olympia

8th in 2002; 3rd in 2003. As mentioned earlier, he beat Cormier, Levrone, and Cutler at the Show of Strength.

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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2013, 09:59:12 PM »

Cormier beat Jackson the week after the ASC at the San Francisco Pro...not that much of a decline.

And Cormier wasn't on the decline, when Dex beat him at the Show of Strength.

Furthermore, I'd hardly consider Jackson beating at his peak. That would have occured at either the 2008 Mr. Olympia or the 2012 Masters Olympia. Some have argued that, even in defeat, Jackson looked better at the 2009 Olympia than he did winning the previous year.

Those versions of Jackson are quite better than the ones that beat Cormier.


After 99 2000Cormier was on decline  when these guys were at the top
Of their game dex wasn't or couldn't even get in the mix
Prime eg 99 Cormier beats any version of dexter EASY
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« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2013, 09:59:54 PM »

you look @ the 90's era
its a hall of fame era
i truly believe we'll never see such great BB's ever again

Nasser, shawn, flex, kevin, priest, dillet vince taylor, Coleman etc

the 2013 ASC line up was so weak- these guys are 5th tier
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