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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2013, 06:21:09 PM »

yes, I had the biggest crush on Renee Tenison. Rosie (Rosy) Tenison modeled for Frederick's of Hollywood and was a fitness model. I had her pics up in my dorm room in college.

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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2013, 06:22:42 PM »
  I went on a date with each sister    very nice

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2013, 06:37:26 PM »
A gay man (possibly) who believes that he is a woman (now is this person attracted to men?) becomes a woman and a MMA fighter, and now is a lesbian (attracted to women)?
So, would that mean that "he" was originally attracted to women in the first place, which means that he was really heterosexual?

Do not assume because someone is transgendered that they are also gay. Many transgendered folks are attracted to the opposite sex before and after they transition. Essentially, they were straight but felt as if they were in the wrong body. This begs the question, if a man becomes a woman and is still attracted to women, does this make her gay?

There are also transgendered folks who are gay prior to gender reassignment surgery. Since they are pretty much women after all the hormones and surgery, if they are attracted to the opposite sex, does this mean they are now straight? Is it more common for women who transition to being men to be attracted to women then it is for men who transition to being women being attracted to men?

Frankly the simple answer is that people come in all flavors. Anything is possible. Life can be a challenge for anyone, imagine how much of a challenge it is for someone who has gender identity issues? I wouldn't want to be in their shoes for all the tea in China.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2013, 06:39:48 PM »
  I went on a date with each sister    very nice
how were they, personable? And how did each of their personalities differ?

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2013, 06:43:53 PM »
Do not assume because someone is transgendered that they are also gay. Many transgendered folks are attracted to the opposite sex before and after they transition. Essentially, they were straight but felt as if they were in the wrong body. This begs the question, if a man becomes a woman and is still attracted to women, does this make her gay?

There are also transgendered folks who are gay prior to gender reassignment surgery. Since they are pretty much women after all the hormones and surgery, if they are attracted to the opposite sex, does this mean they are now straight? Is it more common for women who transition to being men to be attracted to women then it is for men who transition to being women being attracted to men?

Frankly the simple answer is that people come in all flavors. Anything is possible. Life can be a challenge for anyone, imagine how much of a challenge it is for someone who has gender identity issues? I wouldn't want to be in their shoes for all the tea in China.
That is why I was asking the question. Because I didn't know, nor could I assume...
But it makes one wonder, if a person feels like they are of another sex, would that mean that they are attracted to the opposite of what they feel that they are? Due to their almost always being a top and bottom, Dom and sub...
Like the saying goes, you can't have two Kings of a Castle nor can you have two Queens, you gonna have a King and a Queen.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2013, 07:10:19 PM »
Prime muscle .. I do agree.. I can't imagine what they are going through mentally.. When does one,who is gay, go to that next level and want to change their actual sex? Is this a mental disorder so to speak? I know one in my town who has had the "full Monty"in regards to the operation.. I was told by " her" that she always felt ha.t she was a women growing up.. But again, when does on cross over from just being gay to feeling that they are somehow in the wrong body sexually.? And again, is this a mental disorder ect.. May never know.. But I will say that frm the limited experience I have seeing this it appears that those i question do have "issues" that need to be resolved other than gender confusion..

I don't want to be redundant here, but your post warrants a reply.

Like you, I cannot imagine what someone with this issue goes through. It must be like a living hell. As I mentioned before, being transgendered does not necessarily equate to being gay. Some transgendered folks were straight both before and after they transitioned in as much as they were attracted to the opposite sex prior to transitioning and are still attracted to what used to be the opposite sex after transitioning (which one could argue, makes them now gay).

I don't believe medical science has this shit figured out yet. As was the case in the book Middlesex, this person was born neutral so to speak because they were essentially both sexes. The book is not only an interesting read, but is explores the anguish a child goes though when they are a hermaphrodite. The character in this book actually seems to have his/her mental act together better then the parents or the doctors who offer what they believe is the best fix....when maybe this person wasn't broken at all, just different from the norm.

When I was a teenager I read Christine Jorgensen's autobiography. Not being a psychologist or for that matter having any expertise in mental health, I felt like she convinced herself that she was a girl trapped in a boy's body. Becoming who she believed she was, was an obsession that she eventually achieved. There is a passage in the book when she is on the floor under the piano and looking up she sees her mothers vagina and thinks that is what she is supposed to look like. Never having such an experience, I found it difficult to comprehend how someone can not see themselves for who they are physically. My thought was that she talked herself into believing she was supposed to be a woman.

Men and women are different in many ways besides just physically. I truly believe women often have a different temperament then do men. I also suspect women and men are more alike then we realize and that social influences often exaggerate their differences. My mom was an extremely attractive woman when she was young. She was completely man crazy and there was nothing gay about her. Yet, she was strong and domineering in ways that are often associated with males. If she had been born a male, she probably would have been a stereotypical alpha male. I doubt she ever considered that she was born the wrong gender. It seems very likely that kids who manifest the characteristics of the opposite gender are driven to assume that role on some kind of permanent basis. For example the little "sissy" boy who plays with dolls or the "Tomboy" girl who can and will tackle a boy for possession of the football are often ridiculed for being different. I don't doubt that this can influence how one feels about themselves as an adult and that it contributes of feelings of gender confusion.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2013, 07:42:22 PM »
  met them at the same time actually   in hollywood   doing a photo shoot   traded numbers    eventually went on a date with each one   very nice very cool   to me   but they were high maintenance

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2013, 08:04:20 PM »
  NO Male should be allowed to fight a Female.

Agreed - what bullshit that the hormones made her as weak as a woman now.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2013, 08:18:15 PM »


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« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2013, 08:46:27 PM »
Thailand is full of trannies & you know what - it's a fashion thing more than anything.  

They see trannies on TV, in daytime soap operas, adverts, hell half the women working on make up counters in department stores have got meat & 2 veg between their legs. There's even an airline with tranny hostesses. Trannies are everywhere you go.

Out here, it is more of an extension of the faggotry you see in the west in the gay community - all that acting effeminate nonsense. All that mincing about and putting on funny voices. All of that, ALL OF IT is fake. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not a funny voice, funny walk and funny hand positions. And it sure isn't making an effort to shock straight people by saying "cock" every other word.

So out here - they take mincing one step further with hormones & gender re-assignment. They see it around them from a young age and just take it to an extreme because you can do what you want here. In the west, you can't just walk into a pharmacy and buy the hormones and a surgeon won't just cut your dick off 'cause you have the cash.

In many cases, it's a career move. Get re-assigned and compete with the women in the red light districts.

All this "woman trapped in a mans body". I just don't buy it in 99% of cases. It's just someone that is fucked in the head. Shit - most gay people I have met are fucked in the head, basing all their life around their 'gayness' as if it's their whole raison d'etre.

A lot of homos are just complete attention whores, so stands to reason that some of them go the extra mile in their eternal quest to be top mincer.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2013, 10:21:19 PM »
ah she is named bridget fonda.

is that jane fonda sister or something?

She is Jane Fonda's niece.

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Bridget Jane Fonda (born January 27, 1964) is an American film and television actress. She is best known for her roles in films such as The Godfather Part III, Single White Female, Point of No Return, It Could Happen to You, and Jackie Brown. She also provides the voice for Jenna in the 1995 animated feature film Balto. She is the daughter of Peter Fonda, niece of Jane Fonda and granddaughter of Henry Fonda.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2013, 10:26:11 PM »
Agreed - what bullshit that the hormones made her as weak as a woman now.

I don't think anyone knows completely how hormones affect a person. Obviously, taking steroids makes men and women grow muscles beyond what they'd naturally be able to to. Steroids are hormones, in the event you did not already know this.

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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2013, 10:38:41 PM »
Thailand is full of trannies & you know what - it's a fashion thing more than anything.  

They see trannies on TV, in daytime soap operas, adverts, hell half the women working on make up counters in department stores have got meat & 2 veg between their legs. There's even an airline with tranny hostesses. Trannies are everywhere you go.

Out here, it is more of an extension of the faggotry you see in the west in the gay community - all that acting effeminate nonsense. All that mincing about and putting on funny voices. All of that, ALL OF IT is fake. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not a funny voice, funny walk and funny hand positions. And it sure isn't making an effort to shock straight people by saying "cock" every other word.

So out here - they take mincing one step further with hormones & gender re-assignment. They see it around them from a young age and just take it to an extreme because you can do what you want here. In the west, you can't just walk into a pharmacy and buy the hormones and a surgeon won't just cut your dick off 'cause you have the cash.

In many cases, it's a career move. Get re-assigned and compete with the women in the red light districts.

All this "woman trapped in a mans body". I just don't buy it in 99% of cases. It's just someone that is fucked in the head. Shit - most gay people I have met are fucked in the head, basing all their life around their 'gayness' as if it's their whole raison d'etre.

A lot of homos are just complete attention whores, so stands to reason that some of them go the extra mile in their eternal quest to be top mincer.


I am not going to argue this with you because clearly your exposure to the people you describe is much greater then mine. But if you are right, what a sad, sad comment this is on good portion of the people in this world. I have often wondered if as the world get more and more populated if people don't seek out more ways to make themselves unique?

While I don't believe sexual attraction is a choice, I do believe we can choose to address this through our choices in life. For example, I chose to be married to a female and to live a relatively traditional life despite having an attraction to the same sex. It was not an easy choice for anyone involved, but it has turned out well.

I can assure you of this. If I had chosen to change my gender, I would not be talking about my long term successful marriage to my wife. Fortunately, changing genders was never an issue for me. I enjoy being a man.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2013, 10:40:07 PM »

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2013, 10:45:22 PM »
I don't think anyone knows completely how hormones affect a person. Obviously, taking steroids makes men and women grow muscles beyond what they'd naturally be able to to. Steroids are hormones, in the event you did not already know this.


I've seen a lot of trannies & trust me - they are a LOT stronger/more masculine than women.

The hormones only do so much.

You can easily tell a tranny from a chick in real life. Their maleness is very evident.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2013, 10:47:44 PM »
  met them at the same time actually   in hollywood   doing a photo shoot   traded numbers    eventually went on a date with each one   very nice very cool   to me  but they were high maintenance
Duh and Double Duh, for the twins...
at least you got to go on a date with, both of them...

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« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2013, 11:00:30 PM »
I've seen a lot of trannies & trust me - they are a LOT stronger/more masculine than women.

The hormones only do so much.

You can easily tell a tranny from a chick in real life. Their maleness is very evident.

Clearly, you are the more experienced of the two of us.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2013, 12:28:47 AM »
Clearly, you are the more experienced jaded of the two of us.

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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2013, 01:43:05 AM »
In her prime. Grier was a 10. Hell, she was bangable in Jackie Brown and she was in her 50s.

Agreed, one of the finest black women of all time.

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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2013, 06:56:23 AM »
Agreed, one of the finest black women of all time.

Great tits, beautiful skin and fine features.  Would hit.


Man-woman should figh this thing. 



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