George Zimmerman - Discussion - Guilty or Innocent?

[Bam-bam]

I haven`t yet, but I have followed people and called the cops before and a gun was legally in the car.  Does that count?

you havent because you know better than to provoke shit.

[The True Adonis]

sure, the fact that trayvon was in a public place, doing nothing illegal before the fight started, and that zimmerman was armed and the victim was not, IS TOTALLy IRRELEVANT TO THE TOPIC HERE.

lol

If you come up to me and hit me in the face, throw me to the ground and start banging my head on the concrete, you don`t think I have the right to use my gun to shoot you?

[Shockwave]

sure, the fact that trayvon was doing nothing illegal before the fight started, and that zimmerman was armed and the victim was not, IS TOTALLU IRRELEVANT TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS KILLED.

lol

it is. He didnt strap up specifically because of Martin, he just happened to be carrying when he was out and about. This is the US, having a firearm on you doesnt automatically make you guilty of murder. Its no different than if he grabbed a rock and crushed his skull to stop martin from beating his head into the concrete (which is what I would have done if I was in zimmermans position and was unarmed.) If I was in Martins position, I would have just told the fat mexican that I was walking to my gfs house like a normal person and been on my merry way

[Bam-bam]

So you think someone unarmed should be allowed to attack and assault someone for the simple fact that the other has a gun and he does not?  

so zimmerman went out from his house carring a gun to chase Trayvon and Trayvon is the original attacker?

[Archer77]

240 is right about one thing, anti-gun fundamentalists will use this as an excuse to try and pass all kind of laws that won't work.

[Shockwave]

so zimmerman went out from his house carring a gun to chase Trayvon and Trayvon is the original attacker?

he didnt leave his house with his gun because of Martin, dingus.

[Bam-bam]

just to set one thing straight, Im not pro trayvon, Im pro life. If you kill someone you better have the BEST EXCUSE EVER for it, and not the other way around.


A guy with a criminal recrod that gets his gun and go chase an unarmed kid that was doing nothing illegal to start a confrontation and ends up blowing his head off....... its just very hard for me to swallow the self-defense excuse.

 

[Shockwave]

just to set one thing straight, Im not pro trayvon, Im pro life.


If you get your gun and go chase an unarmed kid that was doing nothing illegal to start a confrontation and you end up blowing his head off and you have already a criminal record its just very hard for me to swallow this self-defense excuse.

 

sigh.... he didnt go get his gun to chase the kid down.... he had a cwp and just happened to be carrying when he ran into the kid walking through the neighborhood.

[Bam-bam]

sigh.... he didnt go get his gun to chase the kid down.... he had a cwp and just happened to be carrying when he ran into the kid walking through the neighborhood.

sure, the gun just happened to be there at that time. Totally uncorrelated.

 

[Shockwave]

sure, the gun just happened to be there at that time. Totally uncorrelated.

 

he was on his way home.... why is it so hard for you to believe that a man with a cwp is carrying his sidearm when hes out? This is America, even my friends that have CWPs literally never leave their house without their sidearms.

[Bam-bam]

and whats up with a proven mentaly unstable guy with a criminal record having a license to carry a gun and play cop on the streets? thats so fucked up, no wonder such of a huge mess happened.

[Chadwick The Beta]

sure, the gun just happened to be there at that time. Totally uncorrelated.

 

trayvon // the living

also totally "uncorrelated"  

[arce1988]

  He still killed a child.

[Shockwave]

and whats up with a proven mentaly unstable guy with a criminal record having a license to carry a gun and play cop on the streets? thats so fucked up, no wonder such of a huge mess happened.

unless he gets convicted of a felony, he can still legally own and operate a firearm.

[Chadwick The Beta]

  He still killed a child.

if this "child" had been home studying instead of roaming the streets thuggin' , his chocolate tail might still be alive

[Shockwave]

if this "child" had been home studying instead of roaming the streets thuggin' , his chocolate tail might still be alive

to be fair, he was just on his way to get some. Although, if he wasnt a chubby chaser, hed still be alive.

[The True Adonis]

 He still killed a child.

Who gives a fuck.  "The child" was beating the shit out of man and could have killed or caused permanent brain damage.  "The Child" decided to attack.

And you know what, he IS NOT a child.  In a lot of states 17 is considered an adult.

Either way, you can`t just hit someone and beat them.  

Do you think people should not have a right to defend themselves and do you think people should have the right to freely assault someone?  

[The True Adonis]

yeah he should have just shot him in the leg.

Uh, kind of hard to do when you have to make a split second decision when someone is on top of you.

One or two more slams could have rendered him unconscious or even dead.

[The True Adonis]

and whats up with a proven mentaly unstable guy with a criminal record having a license to carry a gun and play cop on the streets? thats so fucked up, no wonder such of a huge mess happened.

What are you talking about? 

[Twaddle]

yeah he should have just shot him in the leg.

Sorry, torso shots only.  Extremity and head shots are for the movies.  HTH.   

[The True Adonis]

This is an EPIC PWNING of mass proportions

[RRKore]

Irrelevant statement after irrelevant statement.

Translation:  The True Adonis was talking out of his ass (when he claimed there were witnesses to Trayvon attacking Zimmerman).

It's OK, TA, we are still GB brothers.  I just don't get why some of you pro-Zimm guys need to lie about the facts exaggerate.  After all, I think it's indisputable that Zimm has a pretty good chance of not being convicted of any crime over this without that shit.  The civil trial might not work out so well for him, though, I think.  (Not to mention any, uh, "street justice".)

[RRKore]

sigh.... he didnt go get his gun to chase the kid down.... he had a cwp and just happened to be carrying when he ran into the kid walking through the neighborhood.

Are you seriously suggesting that GZ had just sort of forgotten he was carrying a gun when he got out of his car to follow Trayvon?  That is highly unlikely. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Sometimes it's mind boggling how right I am most of the time.....



BREAKING: Audio was released today, in which an official from Obama’s Department of Justice (DOJ) tried to convince Sanford, FL city officials to pursue legal action against George Zimmerman.

In case you’ve been living under a rock for the past few months, Zimmerman is accused of murdering Trayvon Martin, a black teenager. Zimmerman says he shot the teen in self defense.

The audio was released by Judicial Watch. The DOJ official urges Sanford city officials and Dream Defenders (a minority advocacy group) to aggressively pursue legal action against Zimmerman because “if a community perceives that there’s something wrong in the black community, there’s something wrong.”

(Read more: GOP Congressman Suing The Obama Administration)

Thomas Battles, the regional director of the DOJ’s Community Relations Service, was recorded during a meeting at the Shiloh Church in April, 2012. He said, “CRS is an arm of the department that we call the Peacemakers. We work with communities where there is real or perceived racial tensions.
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“When Trayvon happened, for many of us, it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. We had grown up in a state and environment where race is a way of life … We’re not from Sanford, but what Sanford represented to us was the very real problems going around this state and this country. We wanted to figure out how could we stand in solidarity, and how could we make this about not just justice for Trayvon, but using this moment and using the opportunity to honor his memory, to honor his spirit by working to bring down the various structures and the various systems that allow something like this to happen.”

It is almost unimaginable that the federal government would interfere in a criminal case in this manner. At the same time, given the abysmal track record of the Obama Administration, it is not hard to believe.

The Obama Administration must be held accountable for this — but I won’t hold my breath.

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/21271-obama-official-caught-on-tape-pushing-for-legal-action-against-zimmerman/

He's the Director of Community Relations.....of course he's going to say it.  He also has a right to his opinion as well.

[Soul Crusher]

If Obzama and his ghetto fat pig wife crashed in AF1 on a trip to Kenya I would not give two shits whatsoever